OgNasty served

[Vod]

At this point for me personally, it's a no-win situation, no matter what truth I speak. I try to rest knowing I've at least done what I can to point it out for others.

Well, the lawyers are taking 40%, but I'm sure you'll be at least partially compensated. 

[LoyceV]

I’ve never contacted anyone about you ever

You may want to check your forum PM Outbox at November 19, 2019, 06:29:27 PM (Amsterdam time).

Switzerland what are you cooking?  - the fire was already down.

If facts can fuel the fire, it was never down.

I'm sending LoyceV all the communications since he is level headed, neutral and trustworthy

That was interesting to read.

Theymos sent 500 btc to several members - they all stole the coins and vanished.

All this happened before I joined the forum, but as far as I know, some got 250 Bitcoin. I've read stories about the forum treasurer who died, after which his 250 started moving. As far as I know that was the only one who "disappeared".

OGNasty, working with Theymos, gave them back because he is able to scam more here.

Unlikely. I'm pretty sure he knew stealing 500 Bitcoin would have gotten him caught, so there's no point in doing it.

Theymos decided to remove OG as the last treasurer, and add him into a multi sig agreement.  He still gets paid with tax free money, but not as much as he did before.

This archive from 2016 shows "Rassah" holding 750 Bitcoin. At the end of 2021, OgNasty was no longer listed.
I know nothing about US taxes. Here, if I'd get paid for "guarding money", it's my own responsibility to report it to taxes. That would also mean no third party would know whether or not I pay my taxes.

[igebotz]

Switzerland what are you cooking?  - the fire was already down.

If facts can fuel the fire, it was never down.

Isn't it in Vod's best interests to avoid direct contact with someone he's already sopenaed? A direct communication like this outside of the context of judicial procedures may jeopardise his case or the legal proceedings. I've filed different lawsuit in the past so I know the common grounds.

That was interesting to read.

Everyone wants to read that.

[Vod]

Isn't it in Vod's best interests to avoid direct contact with someone he's already sopenaed?

Of course!   But if someone is telling you they have been subpoenaed already, it's for something else.  I'm well aware that punitive damages could be reduced should I post anything that is not true.

[igebotz]

Isn't it in Vod's best interests to avoid direct contact with someone he's already sopenaed?

Of course!   But if someone is telling you they have been subpoenaed already, it's for something else.  I'm well aware that punitive damages could be reduced should I post anything that is not true.

The truth and proof should be your strongest weapons in your lawsuit, and if you give it away for free on an open forum, it may not aid your case much. Well GL.

[Tim1996]

Common Vod,  I thought you told us that you will leave the forum for ever. Why coming back and behaving like a duck.

[BenCodie]

OGNasty, working with Theymos, gave them back because he is able to scam more here.

Unlikely. I'm pretty sure he knew stealing 500 Bitcoin would have gotten him caught, so there's no point in doing it.

The corrupt world we live in proves otherwise. Bernie Madoff, Enron, insert more names of the hundreds of thousands of scams done by powerful people here.

Greed and power drives these decisions. Powerful people can get away with all kinds of despicable things, and continue to on a daily basis. Combine this with the internet, the belief in an asset that can change wealth for generations, coupled with the difficulty to revoke bitcoin...and it invalidates your point quite significantly. The motivation would be there for any unjust, powerful character.

It's a very sad and disturbing reality, though it is one that we should not forget if we want to stay objective when it comes to justice and vigilant on and offline. Comments like the one quoted make me feel that maybe, these facts might be slightly forgotten in the thought process.

I'm not saying anything about this case as, even though I've read a lot, my mind is still far from making any official comment. I do sympathize more with Vod but that's just the human in me, it seems like a lot more pain is bleeding into his posts. All I see from OG is that he is fed up (rightfully or wrongly so, I don't have enough conclusive evidence to say more).

I hope that one day any justice due is served, or that peace can be made.

[Vod]

All I see from OG is that he is fed up (rightfully or wrongly so, I don't have enough conclusive evidence to say more).

OG should be fed up.  Before me, there were a dozen other accusers.  I'm persistent until justice is served. 

All OG had to do was answer three questions honestly and that would have been the end of it.  He couldn't even keep his own agreement.

A scorpion wants to cross a river but cannot swim, so it asks a frog to carry it across. The frog hesitates, afraid that the scorpion might sting it, but the scorpion promises not to, pointing out that it would drown if it killed the frog in the middle of the river. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I am sorry, but I couldn't resist the urge. It's my character."

[KaosanRoad]

All I see from OG is that he is fed up (rightfully or wrongly so, I don't have enough conclusive evidence to say more).

OG should be fed up.  Before me, there were a dozen other accusers.  I'm persistent until justice is served. 

All OG had to do was answer three questions honestly and that would have been the end of it.  He couldn't even keep his own agreement.

A scorpion wants to cross a river but cannot swim, so it asks a frog to carry it across. The frog hesitates, afraid that the scorpion might sting it, but the scorpion promises not to, pointing out that it would drown if it killed the frog in the middle of the river. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I am sorry, but I couldn't resist the urge. It's my character."

Hey. I hope everything are good with you.

[Vod]

Hey. I hope everything are good with you.

I'm a bit disappointed.   I came back with the proof OG is corrupt, and he can't even be honest about discussing my proof.

Run coward run, the law is coming for ya.   

[BenCodie]

Hey. I hope everything are good with you.

I'm a bit disappointed.   I came back with the proof OG is corrupt, and he can't even be honest about discussing my proof.

Run coward run, the law is coming for ya.   

I think what's sadder is the state of the community. There is no one outside of you two who are lining up all of the facts, making a judgement call and adding their official input.

This is not just something that we see here in this case, but I have seen it with large scale scams throughout the forum, where accusers are left to fight on their own while the accused are free to ignore, without much consequence from other members.

In current cases, I will say that members do their best to stay objective for both sides...though overall, I think some sort of incentive is needed for members to investigate and add opinions, to prevent things from being up in the air for so long.

I hope you attain the justice you deserve, if justice is due. I will watch on.

[digaran]

I think what's sadder is the state of the community. There is no one outside of you two who are lining up all of the facts, making a judgement call and adding their official input.

This is not just something that we see here in this case, but I have seen it with large scale scams throughout the forum, where accusers are left to fight on their own while the accused are free to ignore, without much consequence from other members.

In current cases, I will say that members do their best to stay objective for both sides...though overall, I think some sort of incentive is needed for members to investigate and add opinions, to prevent things from being up in the air for so long.

Do you know the most frightening threat here being passed around other than getting banned? Is threatening someone with negative trust to get them kicked out of their garbage spamming business, that's the ultimate intimidation skills of most people.

When they hear someone talks about 500 BTC they get dizzy and confused, hell even when they hear 2-3 BTC involved they get lost on their way back to their house for a few days.
So don't expect any "investigation" and official inputs here.
Vod is just hurt, disappointed and heart broken, things didn't go according to his expectations after years of contribution, he went too far and destroyed whatever good he had done for what? For petty things.

Besides, nobody wants to get involved out of fear of RED TAG, because when you get one, you are done, there is no way to remove it, due to "decentralized" nature etc you know?(sarcasm) I mean this system is so chaotic that not even the designer is safe from it's backfiring flaws.
Whatever you do, people find a way to game it.😉 only if there were some courageous unbiased people to fight the corruption without fearing of retaliation, it'd be great.

Edit, you are right Vod, expecting that from you should be considered fantasy.

[Vod]

Wrong thread to discuss your fantasies Digaran - you want OG's lie thread.   OG said he would answer questions honestly and then ignore me.  Once he saw the questions, he decided to lie and and just ignore me.   That is the subject of this thread.

 

[Vod]

For the third year in a row, someone has reported me to the CRA.

Vod, can you answer the question I keep repeatedly posing to you?  Do you still want me to post your PM?  You wouldn't be deflecting now would you?  You'd never accuse others of your own behavior right?  How are things with the Canada Revenue Agency? 

(The PM in question is one where OG describes himself as attracted to pre-pubescent children.  :/)

[OgNasty]

OGNasty, working with Theymos, gave them back because he is able to scam more here.

Unlikely. I'm pretty sure he knew stealing 500 Bitcoin would have gotten him caught, so there's no point in doing it.

This was just brought to my attention. LoyceV, you think you’re so smart and knowledgeable about my actions. Did you even read the treasury contract between theymos and I? Obviously not. It said I could literally take the funds and no legal action could be taken against me. The reason I returned them was because I am a man of honor. Fear doesn’t play a role in any decision I make. If I wanted to take the forum’s 500 BTC, I would have. The only thing stopping me was my honesty.

[Vod]

This was just brought to my attention. LoyceV, you think you’re so smart and knowledgeable about my actions. Did you even read the treasury contract between theymos and I? Obviously not. It said I could literally take the funds and no legal action could be taken against me. The reason I returned them was because I am a man of honor. Fear doesn’t play a role in any decision I make. If I wanted to take the forum’s 500 BTC, I would have. The only thing stopping me was my honesty.

(The bolded part is an obvious lie in the same paragraph he mentions his dishonesty)

Theymos cannot do that with funds donated for bitcoin development, same as you cannot use funds donated to a charity to buy a Tesla.  That is called embezzlement.  

Embezzlement is a form of fraud wherein a person or entity intentionally misappropriates assets for personal use.

Unless OGNasty and Theymos used those coins to pay back their charity donators, they will be found guilty of these crimes.

[LoyceV]

the treasury contract between theymos and I? Obviously not. It said I could literally take the funds and no legal action could be taken against me.

It also says: This agreement is intended to be enforced in a non-violent, non-legal way by the community.

[Vod]

the treasury contract between theymos and I? Obviously not. It said I could literally take the funds and no legal action could be taken against me.

It also says: This agreement is intended to be enforced in a non-violent, non-legal way by the community.

After the treasurer receives the Held Amount of bitcoins, the treasurer owes the Forum the held bitcoins and must keep the entire amount safe at a particular address, never transferring them

Seems to explicitly say the coins are not to be used for anything.   Not "literally" that he can secretly do whatever he wants with them.
OG is very lucky I have not resorted to the non-legal ways that he has.   VERY lucky. 

[OgNasty]

the treasury contract between theymos and I? Obviously not. It said I could literally take the funds and no legal action could be taken against me.

It also says: This agreement is intended to be enforced in a non-violent, non-legal way by the community.

So you think I returned millions of dollars I wanted to scam so I wouldn't get my feelings hurt on an internet forum?  Meanwhile idiotic users like you are attacking me by including extortionists in DT and calling me a Ponzi scammer anyway.  What difference would it have made?  You're a fool.  I returned the funds because I said I would and I do what I say.  Also, I am pro violent resolution if you want to settle whatever problem you have with me.  Don't let the contract fool you, I had no input on it.

[Vod]

I returned the funds because I said I would and I do what I say.  Also, I am pro violent resolution if you want to settle whatever problem you have with me.  Don't let the contract fool you, I had no input on it.

Latest lie:  Jan 6, 2024
Source:  This thread

OGNasty claimed he would answer my questions truthfully and then ignore me forever.   He did not answer my questions.

What a reverse from a few years ago, eh?   OGNasty now shown to consistently lie, almost on a daily basis.  Exposed administrator supporting his lies.
(To save time, I'll only point out one line per post)

Edit:  Wanted to add this funny bit;  OG shooting down his primary defence and ability to see the obvious.  

Did you even read the treasury contract between theymos and I? Obviously not. It said I could literally take the funds and no legal action could be taken against me.

Don't let the contract fool you, I had no input on it.