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November 14, 2023, 06:54:06 PM
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To be honest, I want to see the CEO of Nestle die in a horrible way, that company is the most evil company there together with BlackRock, Vanguard, Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.

These companies are investing in both sides and countries that produce military ammo and weapons for war whoever wins, these companies win whichever wins.
It really shows which superpower leader of this world is up for peace and who is actually supporting the war. We could really stop this without having that boycott which is the same as sanctions that don't work.

Israel doesn't have gas and oil, if they are to sanction the country, it's the gas/oil that they need to stop sending to them. But then are we not also making them suffer if we boycott these products to them? The hate will only grow faster.


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November 14, 2023, 08:04:25 PM
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They forget if it's a franchise, it's not the McDonald's headquarter is supporting Israel. The franchise in other country has no relation with Israel, yet people boycott them. This can give effect to their own economy because the franchise will not make money to pay the employees, resulting salary cut or get fired, unemployment rate will increase.

that clearly supporting Israel, after all it's your choice to boycott them or not.

It's really not make sense to boycott franchise's product, if you want to boycott Israel's product, here are their brands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Israeli_brands

If you want to support Palestine, find the trusted charity in your respective country and make a donation on there.

Think smarter, don't ruin the economy in your country because of sUppOrTInG PaLEStinE by doing that.

Boycotting any of the brands in your infographic is pretty dumb, especially when you consider that their earnings from that country are pretty insignificant to their overall revenue each year. You're right, if you want to target some companies for some reason (few people actually remember all the things they are supposed to be mad about every day) then targeting Israeli companies is the only thing that makes sense. What Israel is doing is hurting a lot of civilians, however they faced a massacre conducted by Hamas recently and they then took away hostages - that is one of the most barbaric acts imaginable and nobody who supports Hamas should receive the slightest bit of sympathy. Give the hostages back, then I might start to care.

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November 14, 2023, 08:21:34 PM
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The Asian continent is one of the regions with the largest population in the world, so calls for boycotts made by several organizations in several countries in the Asian region have a big impact on the sustainability of the products they are trying to boycott.
And this has become commonplace in the world of trade, economics and business. And in this case there are indeed several parties who are trying to take advantage of this situation to destroy their competitors. In the end, initially this was a war conflict between Palestine and Israel, but because there were calls for a boycott this gradually became a trade war between business competitors.

However, whether this call for a boycott is good or not, it is up to each person to respond to it. And here I think that calling for a boycott is not a good thing, because the brand they are trying to boycott is a company that already has branches in various countries, including countries on the Asian continent. By calling for a boycott, this could mean that some of their company branches will close due to lack of visitors and buyers, so it is likely that they will fire some of their workers. And in the end this can cause some people to lose their jobs and cause the number of unemployed to increase.

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November 14, 2023, 08:55:49 PM
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This boycott problem seems to be widespread. Actually, there is a big impact behind the boycott. Now let's think about it if people from many countries boycott those products. The companies for each of these products will close after the company is no longer able to run its business well due to boycotts in each country.
Yep. There are more and more people who join the boycott of USA and Israel products. I don't think we have the ability to stop people from joining the boycott, it is their rights to buy or not buy certain products.

I don't think the companies will stop their business immediately, it should require for years to make significant impacts. If the companies seems to have no chance continuing their activities, I assume they will try to move to another business.

After a company closes its business, thousands of employees who work at that company will experience the impact. They can no longer work as usual and this will clearly increase the number of unemployed in each country. And when there are more unemployed people in each country, crime rates will probably increase as people try to earn money to survive.
Indeed. There will be many people who become jobless. But they must try to find new jobs earlier if it seems their current jobs won't last a long time after there is a massive boycott. They will have enough time to move to another job, the companies where they work now won't suddenly stop their activities.

It is difficult if there are interests from each political elite who want to achieve their targets.
I don't think it is about political issue, but it is about solidarity among people around the world.
People are aware that USA and Israel are killers or war criminals, they try to warn both countries by contributing on the massive boycott because it is the only thing that people can do. Well, not sure if it really brings a big impact for them, but I'm curious to see what's happening then.


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The countries that boycott the most products from Israel are countries that are members of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC). which is the largest organization after the UN. And regarding calls for a boycott of Israeli products, this was again called for at the OIC Summit meeting in the past few days. And I really support this, because this is a form of their solidarity with Palestine, a fellow Islamic country, and this is also a form of their resistance to the colonization carried out by Israel on the Palestinian people.

And then why was Israel the one who colonized Palestine. However, it is not only Israeli products that are affected by the boycott, but also some Western products that are boycotted. This happened because people thought that most western countries supported Israel's colonization of Palestine, so their products were also boycotted..

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These companies are investing in both sides and countries that produce military ammo and weapons for war whoever wins, these companies win whichever wins.
It really shows which superpower leader of this world is up for peace and who is actually supporting the war. We could really stop this without having that boycott which is the same as sanctions that don't work.
There's actually a way that you can stop these companies from controlling and profiting from these wars and starting these wars, everyone should march to the streets and go to the offices of these evil corporations and drag the CEOs in the streets and give them the mob justice that they deserve, you might even be able to drag out the entire board if you're lucky, the decimation of the current controllers of these companies will actually be making a big difference because now they're scared of the people that they're trying to control because they know they will fight back now unlike back then. There's no one in these companies that I've mentioned and was mentioned in the OP that is supporting peace because peace don't make them money alone, they have to have those wars to make sure that there's a goal of peace and then they can sell their stuff to help achieve peace.



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November 15, 2023, 03:11:46 AM
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Stopping trading with related companies, I don't think that's enough to truly halt the genocide in Palestine. I believe there are still many other sources of income supporting the needs of the Zionist war, such as mining, technology companies, and much more. That's why I say boycotting trading companies alone might only have less than a 15% impact on the funds going to the Zionist army.

I acknowledge that Islamic solidarity is quite good, but I feel they haven't truly united. There are still some Islamic countries cooperating with Palestine's enemies. In front of the camera, they show idealistic things, but behind the scenes, there's a lot of realism for the economy, which is more crucial than the war. Except for Turkey, I really appreciate the steps Erdogan has taken lately, but once again, the impact hasn't been significantly seen.
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November 15, 2023, 03:19:09 AM
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Banning Israeli product brands is one of the community's efforts so that fees from these products do not enter Israel, but whether by banning these products can solve the problem of war in the Middle East is not certain, but what we have to do is cut off international diplomatic relations if the country Israel did not stop its aggression against Palestine.

The final conclusion is that we need the unity of nations who care about this war and put pressure on several world institutional forums, so that countries in the world unite to overcome this war.

war occurs resulting in children and women becoming victims, and as stated in the UN convention, that if war occurs in a country, children and women must be protected. and all of them must need the help of anti-war countries.

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They're clueless. And they have a misplaced sense of ethics or righteousness or whatever that is. Many people who are calling for this kind of crazy boycott are exactly the same people who argue that Palestinians are not Hamas and should, therefore, be spared from this violence. But it's the height of irony when, in response, they're calling a blanket boycott to certain products and companies.

First, it doesn't help their case. Second, if they're truly serious, they might end up not using their computers and their smart phones.

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if McDonald's want to stop the boycotts, they just got to take sides.

Why do people have to take sides? Taking sides is what has fueled this war this long. Why do you think both sides always play the victim card? Because they want the public to think they're the one being attacked. Israel has successfully gotten the support of the public and that is why it can do whatever it's doing. Palestine has the support of the people which is why they can attack Israel. These are two people killing innocents, one is only doing it more than the other. So for that reason, we should support the one that has killed less? They're both terrorist groups to me and we can't pick the lesser evil to support.
If the whole world was against what both Israel and Palestine were doing to each other, I believe there would have been other ways to settle their differences.


To be honest, I want to see the CEO of Nestle die in a horrible way, that company is the most evil company there together with BlackRock, Vanguard, Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.

The thing about boycotting is that it never really works.
These companies are deeply rooted to the extent that all these would be forgotten in no time.
There was a time when a very detailed article filled with evidence showing how a cereal company is tied to the funding and money laundering of terrorist groups in Africa. The freelance investigative journalist who made that report is on the run today. He can't openly step foot into his country.
No media house or news channel, big or small reported that news.

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You started a good topic, and we should really have the basic knowledge to differentiate between Israeli products and other products. Because if we start to boycott other products, the unemployment rate will increase, but will it not increase if we boycott Israeli products? Yeah, it will increase, but the question here is not about the unemployment rates, the question is about the 4,400+ children that Israel has murdered till now. So, I can't use their products or of those who support them, although I know it's so hard for us to boycott all of them because we are so dependent on them. And we did not realize that, but this boycott made industries and consumers realize that we should shift to our local products.

We should use our own local brands, and it's time to leave international brands, therefore, if the employees are fired from this business, then on the other hand, employees will be hired in local companies too. So don't think unemployment will increase, instead, it will decrease. And if people tend to use local products, the GDP of the country will increase. It's best for our own country, just like China.

For example, Fiverr is an Israeli product, and I have seen many people leave using it, even my teacher, who made around 1 million dollars from his account, which had the tag of best seller. He has deactivated his account and said goodbye to Fiverr for the best of Palestine. Who can make that big sacrifice because that account was an empire? But this act encourages many others, and they start using local freelancing platforms from which they can earn even more.

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Stopping trading with related companies, I don't think that's enough to truly halt the genocide in Palestine. I believe there are still many other sources of income supporting the needs of the Zionist war, such as mining, technology companies, and much more. That's why I say boycotting trading companies alone might only have less than a 15% impact on the funds going to the Zionist army.

I acknowledge that Islamic solidarity is quite good, but I feel they haven't truly united. There are still some Islamic countries cooperating with Palestine's enemies. In front of the camera, they show idealistic things, but behind the scenes, there's a lot of realism for the economy, which is more crucial than the war. Except for Turkey, I really appreciate the steps Erdogan has taken lately, but once again, the impact hasn't been significantly seen.


And you deny causation for what reason ? Smiley Or history?
For example, you forget that the retaliatory strike on Gaza is the consequence of a terrorist attack on Israel from Gaza and by the hands of Gaza residents.
Second, you forget that the Arab world considers the Palestinians as pariahs. And does not offer any Palestinian to come to them ! Palestinians go to live comfortably in the EU, but not to their "brotherly countries". Do you know why?  Because the "brotherly countries" remember very well "Black September" in 1970.
Saudi Arabia today officially actually forbids even the mention of "Palestine"... officially. Can you tell me the reasons ?
By the way - where can I read your articles condemning the "genocide of Palestine" by Egypt and its supporters in the recent past ?  Or is it not an interesting topic ? 

By the way - by supporting the boycott of Israeli goods...you are also taking away jobs and income from Gazans who have been given the opportunity by Israel to work in Israel in Israeli companies, earn good money, and support their families !  Smiley





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Boycotting brands can be a tricky thing. Some companies follow a mixed strategy of supporting enemy sides, some international companies buy out local brands which poses difficult boycotting situations.
I know that from personal experience, as it's common in Ukraine to boycott companies that work in Russia. I try to follow the same strategy, and there are very convenient tools like bots that monitor involvement of companies in Russia. But there are Ukrainian brands that were acquired by international companies like Nestlé which do business in Russia, and that means putting local products on the boycott lists. There are also some things which are really hard to buy if you follow boycott. For example, I once couldn't find a single toothpaste brand at a healthcare/beauty care shop which was not on the boycott list.
I don't know if the situation is as tricky with Israel and Palestine, but it might be.

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To be honest, I want to see the CEO of Nestle die in a horrible way, that company is the most evil company there together with BlackRock, Vanguard, Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.

These companies are investing in both sides and countries that produce military ammo and weapons for war whoever wins, these companies win whichever wins.
It really shows which superpower leader of this world is up for peace and who is actually supporting the war. We could really stop this without having that boycott which is the same as sanctions that don't work.

Israel doesn't have gas and oil, if they are to sanction the country, it's the gas/oil that they need to stop sending to them. But then are we not also making them suffer if we boycott these products to them? The hate will only grow faster.

If we stop oil and gas, America will definitely be at the forefront as a supplier. America's weapons, missiles and soldiers will definitely supply them. Why does America really support Israel, because Israel is the only one capable of destroying the Arabian plains with its military technology. Arabia/UAE as an oil and gas producing country also continues to sell to Israel, if Arabia stops sending oil and gas I am sure Israel will also start carrying out attacks on Arabia. Conflict will continue and spread.

Since Biden became president, Israel has been very inhumane.

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November 15, 2023, 02:13:49 PM
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It's not a good idea to boycott those products, actually, because those products are actually beneficial to the whole world. And then there are also many employees who are given factories too.

That means why would you boycott those products if in your own country the majority of people where you live are benefiting from them, including government officials and rich people all over the world?

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Boycott is one of our supports for Palestine. Israel's attacks on Gaza have shown no signs of abating. This has encouraged the emergence of various social movements in various parts of the world as a form of sympathy for the victims. One form of solidarity action is in the form of boycotting or not buying products from companies suspected of being affiliated with Israel. A number of goods and services deemed to support the Israeli camp were targeted for boycotts. The boycott is not forever but can be stopped if Israel has implemented a ceasefire in Gaza.
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Think smarter, don't ruin the economy in your country because of sUppOrTInG PaLEStinE by doing that.
Recently, I often see actions boycotting products originating from Israel, so I ask myself.
1. Does the product all come from Israel or only some parts of the product?
If it is indeed a product from Israel, what evidence can be held accountable, perhaps the war between Palestine vs. Israel is made a scapegoat because of competition.
2. I see that 100% of those working at the product company are local people.
3. So I see again that this product is commonly used by the public, so what are the alternative products to use besides the product that OP said.
4. How much money is generated from the product tax, for Israel if it really comes from Israel.

In my opinion, to support Palestine, I think boycotting products will have little effect on Israel, on the contrary, the economy of the country where these products are distributed will be destroyed and there will also be a wave of dismissals and massive unemployment in that country.

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November 15, 2023, 04:22:43 PM
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You are right. Companies like McDonald's, Starbucks, etc. don't belong to Israel; instead, they are USA companies, but most of the Americans are boycotting them because the USA is also supporting Israel, and they are the ones who send ships full of food and weapons. Even I saw a video in which some protestors were trying to stop that massive ship from leaving.

This is all we can do at the moment to hurt their economy because they are earning a massive amount via these companies. I know we can't abandon all of their products, but we can at least try to leave some.

This boycott will also increase the growth of local products because those who have left the usage of these products are now using local products, which has increased sales, and in turn, the economy of the country is also increasing. I have seen many products that are not real, but still people are boycotting them because those products are from those countries that directly support Israel.

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November 15, 2023, 04:54:25 PM
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You are right. Companies like McDonald's, Starbucks, etc. don't belong to Israel; instead, they are USA companies, but most of the Americans are boycotting them because the USA is also supporting Israel, and they are the ones who send ships full of food and weapons. Even I saw a video in which some protestors were trying to stop that massive ship from leaving.

This is all we can do at the moment to hurt their economy because they are earning a massive amount via these companies. I know we can't abandon all of their products, but we can at least try to leave some.

This boycott will also increase the growth of local products because those who have left the usage of these products are now using local products, which has increased sales, and in turn, the economy of the country is also increasing. I have seen many products that are not real, but still people are boycotting them because those products are from those countries that directly support Israel.

Applying a Boycott to companies based in the United States of America, while it is a valid form of protest, it would be very difficult to do and coordinate, since we would be talking about a huge conglomerate of brands, products and services who many people use in their daily life, without even noticing those are brands owned by shareholders in USA.
A national boycott would be easier in countries which are already under the pressure of sanctions, like Russia, Cuba or even Turkey, where sanctions have already pushed local businesses to thrive in order to replace those international brands which cannot longer operate in their jurisdiction. 

It would also take into consideration which brand have publicly stated their position on this conflict, by the way. Tho, I assume many of pro paslestinian protesters won't care, since all American companies pay for taxes.

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HAMAS has gone into a suicide mission and the price is being paid by those who has no relation with the war. This is very much unfortunate but looking at Israel's mood, it's not going to stop anytime soon. If Iran tries to become the big daddy of the Middle East, they will be screwed by US.

Such kind of product boycott will keep on happening. But the majority of the world stands with Israel. So I do not see a big impact here. Some countries will definitely try to curb their usage of Israel's products but they are only a minority.
I don't really agree with this because however if in the end Hamas commits suicide it is still indiscriminate to civilians who do not have the energy and strength for war including the massacre of children and women or perhaps the destruction of hospitals and places of worship it is an act of war crimes. The problem is Hamas and Israel so that it should refer to it instead of blindly carrying out attacks on the grounds of self-defence from attacks by slaughtering thousands of lives it makes no sense.
On the other hand, when saying the majority of countries support Israel in this case I think you are wrong because seeing from the current situation with many demonstrations everywhere it indicates that we as humans still have a conscience by not expecting genocide like this. The top officials of the country who have the advantage only support this but not the majority of people in a country because in the end we also have to realise that this is not a war but they (Israel) are committing genocide under the pretext of fighting Hamas.  On the issue of boycotts this is just a way from some people to make those who support the start of weaponry and finances to buy weapons can be reduced but the pros and cons are bound to happen so things like this depend on how we react to it regardless of whether it agrees or not all have their own opinions

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