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November 17, 2023, 11:32:06 AM
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If you want to support Palestine, find the trusted charity in your respective country and make a donation on there.

Think smarter, don't ruin the economy in your country because of sUppOrTInG PaLEStinE by doing that.
I would say that if the prices or stocks or whatever (like revenue or income) drops, then it means that boycott is working. Doesn't mean I am supporting or against the boycott, I am just stating a fact.

However, we need to remember that these are multi-billion dollar companies and I am not sure if the boycott will continue to hurt them, we need to be realistically about the results of this, there could be some situations right now, but at the long run the western world is 99% of the income these companies have, and middle east is not, middle east doesn't bring in half as much as they think they do, these companies could work for just USA alone and still be rich nations, let alone adding Europe to that calculation. There could be troubles short term that's it.

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November 17, 2023, 12:29:05 PM
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My cousin works at Starbucks but he has had his working hours reduced because visitors to Starbucks have decreased drastically since the boycott was carried out by people.

To be honest, on the one hand, I feel sorry for him, but what is currently people doing (the boycott) is the best thing to stop the madness of war. what is being done by Israel towards Palestine, humanity remains above all even though we will see many people who will be unemployed.

This is what I have in mind,  the effect of the boycott itself, there are many hundreds of workers who will be affected by the boycott of the above products, on the one hand the issue of humanity and the independence of Palestine is also important,
It's a good idea to research the truth further before boycotting,

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November 17, 2023, 01:45:00 PM
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It's these private companies that should think smarter. I'm pretty sure they understand that we are now at the cancel culture age but they still expressed their support anyway instead of remaining neutral.
Those who would boycott may stop buying these brands but they will still spend their money elsewhere so not much problem with that. The issue is that there may be a few hundreds or thousands of employees that may be affected in case these franchises go bankrupt.
I agree with your point that these companies are the ones who should have taken a neutral stance if they couldn't show support for Palestine for whatever reason even though it's pretty obvious that the people of Palestine are the actual victims of this war because they are innocent and has nothing to do whatever happens or even whatever their country or the authorities does, a country shouldn't kill innocent civilians when it's in war with the country.

Anyway, if these companies are not thinking about their employees because they probably don't care, they should at least think of themselves because if people in large numbers start boycotting them and their products, they will start to incur huge losses due to mass production costs and low sales.

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November 17, 2023, 02:57:00 PM
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My cousin works at Starbucks but he has had his working hours reduced because visitors to Starbucks have decreased drastically since the boycott was carried out by people.

To be honest, on the one hand, I feel sorry for him, but what is currently people doing (the boycott) is the best thing to stop the madness of war. what is being done by Israel towards Palestine, humanity remains above all even though we will see many people who will be unemployed.

This is what I have in mind,  the effect of the boycott itself, there are many hundreds of workers who will be affected by the boycott of the above products, on the one hand the issue of humanity and the independence of Palestine is also important,
It's a good idea to research the truth further before boycotting,

We don't know who actually planned that boycott, but even so, it might have an effect, but that doesn't mean that the boycott will bring down those products.

It seems that in the human body, it can only cause a wound, but it will still heal after a short period of time. You know what I mean. And as others have said, that's not a good way to be honest if we look closely. .

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November 18, 2023, 01:34:22 AM
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The people suffering the most are the local business owner and his employees.  Roll Eyes
Exactly, sometimes even local entrepreneurs and those who collaborate with franchise may not necessarily support Zionism. It could be that in countries with a majority Muslim population, there's cooperation with this franchise because it shows good growth and generates high profits. There's no intention to endorse the existing genocide. I'm starting to see a dilemma here, even though it's also worthy of consideration.

If this product is truly thriving, then what happens is that the parent company reaps more profits. If the business is slow, it's the local franchise owners who suffer losses. Sometimes, boycotting products becomes a tough choice in responding to conflicts.

I get it, everyone wants to help the victims of war, but is this the right way by limiting ourselves from products that we used even before on a daily basis?
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November 18, 2023, 01:40:55 AM
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/14/indonesians-boycott-mcdonalds-starbucks-over-support-for-israel Here in my country there is boycott product like Starbucks and mcdonald tho I dont really buy the product too even before the boycott is arrived because expensive hahaha.

I just want to ask is there a news about that company gives money aid to israel soldier or it is spark because mcd israel gives free meal to soldier ?

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November 18, 2023, 02:28:42 AM
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Maybe this will also happen in various other countries where local business owners will take advantage of this momentum to compete amidst the incessant boycott of products whose companies support the war. Because not all of the products being boycotted are from Israel, but there are also from other countries such as America and its member states, so this also needs to be looked at carefully. So that no one misunderstands the boycott that is currently underway, because this will really have a big impact on the country's economic sector.

Yes. Everyone is taking advantage of the moment and setting a strategy in this regard. If I focus on an authorized body such as the UN which has strong nails, it can immediately seek a middle way so that the ongoing military aggression conflict there can be immediately resolved in a just and dignified manner where the dominant victims are children and women.

Since the war broke out on October 7, there have been more than 11,500 Palestinians in Gaza, including 4,710 children and 3,160 women. The number of injured victims reached 29,800 people and this is temporary data which has not yet been updated and is certain to increase. Isn't that sad? Do they (UN) want to slow it down again and increase the number of victims?

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November 18, 2023, 11:56:18 AM
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I just want to ask is there a news about that company gives money aid to israel soldier or it is spark because mcd israel gives free meal to soldier ?
The free meal thing was a reminder for a lot of people that woke them up.
Otherwise the financial aid that McDonald's sends the apartheid regime of Israel is huge and they've been doing it for many years. I believe the start was at least from 1993.

We also already know that many of the CEOs were Zionists themselves such as Jack M. Greenberg (CEO from 1999 to 2002).

One of the proxies through which McDonald's sends money to the child killer regime is the Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Chicago. This organization is then sending $1.3 billion to the terrorists in Tel Aviv every year.
You can see their main contributors in their website (old picture showing their gratitude for their biggest contributors): https://www.talkimg.com/image/FI5qC

You see this is not the first time companies such as McDonald's is experiencing global backlash for supporting terrorism. This is why they have been doing it through proxies and third parties trying to keep it under wraps. But funding terrorism always leaves a trail.

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A question to the esteemed public !
Please just answer honestly, even if the answer will not be pleasant: why Arab countries do not say a word about boycott of Chinese products?
Someone will probably ask - "What does China have to do with it". I answer - In China, for many decades, systematically, at the state level, there is a real genocide of Muslims. There are persecuted, imprisoned, tortured, deprived of rights, deprived of the right to their religious identity, more than a million Muslims ! And not ONE Muslim country says a word about this to me, does not make any demands, does not demand boycott and confrontation or even MINIMAL help to their brothers in faith and blood !?!? Is it like - selective truth, double standards, or is it "wrong Muslims" ? Or maybe it's just a matter of .... Though no - I would love to hear your ARGUMENTED opinions

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HAMAS has gone into a suicide mission and the price is being paid by those who has no relation with the war. This is very much unfortunate but looking at Israel's mood, it's not going to stop anytime soon. If Iran tries to become the big daddy of the Middle East, they will be screwed by US.
There is a theory known as just war theory which explains the war phenomenon of what is allowed in war and what is not. This theory has three phases and in the second phase jus ad bellum, there is a principle that clearly says that only use that force in response that your opponent doeses, means not using excess force in response to a little one. Israel violated this principle and killed thousands of children and did a carpet bombing in Ghaza, Hamas did not kill any children so the war was just between Israel and Hamas, and the protection of the civilians was necessary. The Muslim country and also the European states boycott Israel's products based on civilian killing. We are in an advanced era where there is not only war occurring due to weapons but through different means and economic boycotts are one of them.

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November 19, 2023, 10:21:35 AM
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Why more? In a lot of cases the products listed in the picture are a lot more expensive than their alternatives only because of their brand name.
Some of local sellers often charge higher rate when they see you wear a good clothes or drive an expensive car. I guess you meant the other competitors which is correct their products are cheaper, but the new generation prefer to buy a stuff with brand in order to flex in social media.

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Good news is that there are countless competitors for a lot of "simple products" from burgers to shampoos and drinks that have at least same quality if not better as replacements.
The taste of each product is different, it's can't be replaced, for me no one can replace KFC's sauces.

For men, every shampoos are same, but for women, not every shampoos suit for them and they always stick to brand that suit for them.

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Both of these countries import a ton of stuff. IIRC China imports is about $3 trillion annually.
But they both has a power which make them easier to cooperate with the other countries, even though EU give a sanction against Russia, Russia can still work with the other strong countries e.g. Saudi Arabia or China.

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November 19, 2023, 12:15:50 PM
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I also suggest that supporters of Palestine consider boycotting goods and relations with Jordan and Egypt! Smiley

Probably many already know why!? No, ok, I inform you - the brotherly Palestinians, the peoples of Jordan and Egypt, fellow believers, categorically REFUSED to accept refugees from Gaza!
“Jordan and Egypt will not accept Palestinian refugees from the Gaza Strip,” Jordanian King Abdullah announced this at a joint press conference with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.
"This is a red line. No more Palestinian refugees - neither in Jordan nor in Egypt," the state news agency Petra quoted the monarch as saying.
According to Abdullah, the problem should be resolved within the Gaza Strip and in the West Bank, and not “shifted onto the shoulders of other states.”

This is what “support for the Palestinian people” looks like....

And again I ask myself the question - but no one can tell WHY Israel gave the Palestinians jobs, allowed them into its territory, treated them as people... And “brothers in faith” simply turn away from them and push them away? Nobody can give a reason?

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November 19, 2023, 02:03:01 PM
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I hope these companies release some statistics at some point to see the scale of the effects the ongoing boycott had on their revenues. At this point we only have news and social media to speculate and it is not accurate.
For example the most recent "activity" by the dictator of Arabia shows the boycott may be bigger than we thought because the al-Saudi dictator is ordering his mouthpieces to advertise McDonald's which is something that's happened for the first time!

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November 19, 2023, 05:30:18 PM
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There are many organizations and people in Asia are boycotting Israel's product because they're stand with Palestine. But I see it's really wrong because they mixed up both Western brands and Israel brands as they boycotting brands like: McDonald, Fanta, Garnier, Nestea, Starbucks etc. I'm not sure what's their reason to do that, but I take McDonald as the example, they boycotting McDonald because McDonald's franchise in Israel is supporting Israel.

They forget if it's a franchise, it's not the McDonald's headquarter is supporting Israel. The franchise in other country has no relation with Israel, yet people boycott them. This can give effect to their own economy because the franchise will not make money to pay the employees, resulting salary cut or get fired, unemployment rate will increase.

AFAIK there's only one brand, that clearly supporting Israel, after all it's your choice to boycott them or not.

It's really not make sense to boycott franchise's product, if you want to boycott Israel's product, here are their brands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Israeli_brands

If you want to support Palestine, find the trusted charity in your respective country and make a donation on there.

Think smarter, don't ruin the economy in your country because of sUppOrTInG PaLEStinE by doing that.

As you've identified, boycotts almost never work and especially not against big multinational organizations like McDonald's or Unilever. They have vast ranges of products which have reached a point of consistent quality and manufacture at a large scale where they can keep prices reasonably low for consumers. The poorest can often suffer in these scenarios because they really on goods from such companies at affordable prices. Most people these days have a very short memory as well and wouldn't be able to remember all the products to boycott all of the time, besides actually liking many of these brands.

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November 19, 2023, 07:59:26 PM
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Your government has imported those products from Israel and the price has already been paid off. If you boycott those products that are already in the market in your country, then you are harming your own country's economy. You are spending money in your country and your country is making the profit. It stays in your country and does not go to Israel if your government is not importing new things from there.

Instead of boycotting individual consumption of those products or things from company, we need to find a way to prevent importing things from Israel. That's the only way you are not helping Israel. Every other things coming from other countries should not be boycotted just because it's resembles the name of the company. Also, you need to prevent importing from countries which are importing things from Israel and then giving it to you. You should never harm your country's economy by not consuming those products. I also hate Israel, so I will keep that hatred in mind, but in order to really support people from Palestine, we need to stand beside them.
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November 19, 2023, 08:08:11 PM
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I didn't understand why the countries are doing this even they had faces many problems in the War.
Even if they had a war of Atomic Bomb and missiles how could someone's stopped applying a countries things. Even those countries which are not even involved in the War how could they stop themselves from these things even they didn't even aware of the conclusion they made.
Most probably the those countries which are not even affected by this war will not able to boycott these things and still these things are using in many countries and they think this is their own choice.

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November 19, 2023, 08:53:45 PM
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They want to do something but don't actually know what's owned by Jews. Nestle is not Israeli, but it of course employs Jews, since it owns Osem.
If you wanted to boycott Jewish products you should stop watching movies because a lot of famous producers (like Weinstein) and directors (like Kubrick, Polanski) are Jews. I'm not even going to start with actors. Probably over 30% of people in that industry have Jewish blood in them and it's nothing bad. You don't choose who your parents are.
Boycotting something because it has ties with a nations is stupid. These people have no control over the things their military does, pretty much like Russian sports teams have nothing to do with war in Ukraine, as long as they don't start to support it in the media.

To be honest, I want to see the CEO of Nestle die in a horrible way, that company is the most evil company there together with BlackRock, Vanguard, Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.

Does that mean that when Black Rock starts pumping bitcoin when ETF gets approved you're not going to sell any because it could get into their hands?
I'd love to see such initiative, but people are too greedy to actually do it. When bitcoin goes to $100k they'll all be selling like crazy to buy their supercars and ocean view apartments.

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November 19, 2023, 09:19:48 PM
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This is what I have in mind,  the effect of the boycott itself, there are many hundreds of workers who will be affected by the boycott of the above products, on the one hand the issue of humanity and the independence of Palestine is also important,
It's a good idea to research the truth further before boycotting,
Nowadays, there are a lot of people who find it difficult to verify the information they get first, apart from that they also take part in supporting the boycott of Israeli products, which will have a big impact on economic imbalance, i just read an advertisement, there are many Products that are on the boycott list have discounts of more than 30%.  To be honest, when a boycott occurs, the people who work are the ones who suffer losses, i have never supported the war between Israel and Palestine, i have also never supported the boycott of Israeli products.

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November 19, 2023, 09:27:15 PM
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I didn't understand why the countries are doing this even they had faces many problems in the War.

Of course, this was done in order to stop the war conflict that occurred between Zionist Israel and Palestinian Hamas. This call for a boycott was made as a form of protectionism by most Islamic countries against the colonialism carried out by Israel and against pro-Israel countries. This boycott call is a sign that a trade war is about to start. And of course, with the call for a boycott, countries that are pro-Israel will think twice about continuing their support for Israel. because apart from calling for a boycott it will affect the performance of product exports, but this also has the potential to reduce the value of investment, so that they are western countries which are pro Israel but most of their country's income is supported by product exports, so that exports can continue, whether they like it or not the country must withdraw its support for Israel. and this could allow Israel's strength to become increasingly weakened, in the end Israel will choose to make peace and grant independence to Palestine.
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November 19, 2023, 10:58:39 PM
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LOL. I see like almost 5 Nestle brands in that picture.

Nestle has done far worse things than picking sides in any particular war, and people have been boycotting them for decades, but the blood-thirsty company continues to buy up other businesses and hurt more people by making things prohibitively expensive for them.
Don't get me started with that Water bullshit they put out in 2014.

Although I don't get what the fuck OP meant with "stop ruining your economy with your stupid I stand with Palestine bullshit" or whatever the fuck he put out in his main post. First off, every country's in the position to lift themselves up through their innate denominators and features. Some countries have natural resources, some countries have particularly nicer views that could be used as tourist attractions, it all boils down to proper governance and anti-corruption movements. Now, the problem with your statement is that it discourages fighting for people's liberty, and supporting the oppressor just cause they give you money. If I tell you to stop bitching about work since you're getting paid to do it anyway, would you feel rather happy about what I said?
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