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November 19, 2023, 10:58:39 PM
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LOL. I see like almost 5 Nestle brands in that picture.

Nestle has done far worse things than picking sides in any particular war, and people have been boycotting them for decades, but the blood-thirsty company continues to buy up other businesses and hurt more people by making things prohibitively expensive for them.
Don't get me started with that Water bullshit they put out in 2014.

Although I don't get what the fuck OP meant with "stop ruining your economy with your stupid I stand with Palestine bullshit" or whatever the fuck he put out in his main post. First off, every country's in the position to lift themselves up through their innate denominators and features. Some countries have natural resources, some countries have particularly nicer views that could be used as tourist attractions, it all boils down to proper governance and anti-corruption movements. Now, the problem with your statement is that it discourages fighting for people's liberty, and supporting the oppressor just cause they give you money. If I tell you to stop bitching about work since you're getting paid to do it anyway, would you feel rather happy about what I said?
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November 19, 2023, 11:29:32 PM
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The widespread belief in the boycotting society isn't that these brands belong to Israel, but that they belong to the US and that the US is behind Israel. So it's not only Israel that they are boycotting, but also the US. While I think it's normal for people to boycott any company for any reason and to publicize it, this issue is very open to manipulation. Some groups in society include companies they don't want in these pre-written lists, and these lists spread from hand to hand, and people who don't check them one by one create a perception that they are all bad. Some of the companies on the boycott lists may even be directly owned by the country. Only the naming rights are foreign, all the capital and labor is local, but people still boycott them without knowing or caring that.

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November 20, 2023, 05:21:53 AM
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The poorest can often suffer in these scenarios because they really on goods from such companies at affordable prices. Most people these days have a very short memory as well and wouldn't be able to remember all the products to boycott all of the time, besides actually liking many of these brands.
As simple as this, if the product from local business or competitors are better than them, boycott isn't even needed as the consumers know which product is the best deal.

If I tell you to stop bitching about work since you're getting paid to do it anyway, would you feel rather happy about what I said?
Do you think I'm one of them who bitching about work? Cheesy

Actually I agree with such mind, why you need to angry or mad with the job that given from your company when you're get paid and you're the one who want to get a job? if you don't like it just resign immediately. Don't say it's hard to get a new job, you need to feed your family etc, that's the risk of quitting a job and no one said life is easy.

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This is important to know for someone who support the boycott.


https://www.unrwa.org/sites/default/files/top_20_donors_2022_overall_ranking.pdf
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November 20, 2023, 07:39:10 AM
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Here's a new object for boycott ! Smiley

"'You did not warn us of the impending attack on Israel on Oct. 7, we will not enter the war to give you support,' the ayatollah said." According to sources, Iranian authorities do not like Hamas making public appeals to Iran and Iran-based pro-Iranian Hezbollah, asking them to join the fighting against Israel. Khamenei demanded that Haniyeh take steps to stop such calls.  Iran-backed Hezbollah has previously threatened to go to war against Israel if Hamas is on the verge of defeat."....."

Iran too refuses to support the Palestinians, against strikes on Israel, and generally doesn't care about the Palestinians.... By the way refugees from Palestine they also do not want to see in their territory....

And so - waiting for support and calls to boycott this cowardly "pro-Israel regime" !  Smiley 

Judging by the situation, there is a complete picture - the Arab, Muslim world is using Palestine only for information manipulation, and as "guinea pigs" - it will turn out to be another "experiment", and with their help to create a problem for Israel - they will attribute the success in the "fight against Zionism" to themselves. And if they don't, they won't, and don't give a damn about the Palestinians, their lives, their future, which doesn't exist.... And all "support for Palestine" - only in words, in weapons for terrorist attacks against Israel, and in slogans of crazy leaders of terrorist groups and regimes ...

Now these "players with other people's souls" have probably finally taken away the future from the people of Palestine, made them outcasts and rejected by the Muslim world. Deprived them of their jobs, the opportunity to live and develop in peace, to build their cities, to raise their children.... You still blame Israel for Palestine's problems!? Do you still think that boycotting Israeli companies where Palestinians worked will save Palestinians !?!?


PS By the way a good example of a proper boycott: the other day Ilon Musk supported an anti-Semitic post. Bottom line: Apple, IBM, Disney, Warner Brothers, Discovery, Paramount and other major advertisers... refused to advertise on his network.... This is what a proper and effective boycott looks like

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November 22, 2023, 02:14:35 PM
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If you want to support Palestine, find the trusted charity in your respective country and make a donation on there.

Think smarter, don't ruin the economy in your country because of sUppOrTInG PaLEStinE by doing that.

It's really hard to have a position on the whole Israel Palestina war. The attack from Hamas was terrible and definitely needed a strong response from Israel. The problem is that there is no end insight, civilians can't leave Gaza and became a political instrument for both sides. With so many civilian casualties it's going to be hard to find any longterm solution for the conflict. I remember reading an article from the economist in the spring this year about the uncertainty of Gaza and the West Bank. They argued that it's up to Israel to find a solution, because the world is facing too many different conflicts to really intervene in Israel. Nobody could have seen that the conflict would explode again this year and it's going to be hard to find a permanent solution after all that loss of life. The longer the war goes on the more children will suffer and become radicalized themselves. The chances are high that once they grow up they will continue the fight and you can't permanently occupy Gaza if the whole population is against you.
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November 25, 2023, 01:37:33 AM
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PS By the way a good example of a proper boycott: the other day Ilon Musk supported an anti-Semitic post. Bottom line: Apple, IBM, Disney, Warner Brothers, Discovery, Paramount and other major advertisers... refused to advertise on his network.... This is what a proper and effective boycott looks like

I know this has an impact on those involved. Even though it has small scale economic consequences. So, from the picture you have given, I don't think Elon will necessarily want to go in that direction because they may be bound by interests and if they want to do so, it could be considered a violation of freedom of expression, even though Elon indirectly has the right to express opinions.

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November 25, 2023, 02:00:37 AM
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The widespread belief in the boycotting society isn't that these brands belong to Israel, but that they belong to the US and that the US is behind Israel. So it's not only Israel that they are boycotting, but also the US. While I think it's normal for people to boycott any company for any reason and to publicize it, this issue is very open to manipulation. Some groups in society include companies they don't want in these pre-written lists, and these lists spread from hand to hand, and people who don't check them one by one create a perception that they are all bad. Some of the companies on the boycott lists may even be directly owned by the country. Only the naming rights are foreign, all the capital and labor is local, but people still boycott them without knowing or caring that.

So if you boycott USA companies and harm them you are harming the muslim's in the US that work or depend on those companies.

Ten of Thousands of muslims work at those companies in the USA so you harm 10's of thousands of muslims.

Here is a chart of top ten muslim states

New York 724,475
California 504,056
Illinois 473,792
New Jersey 321,652
Texas 313,209
Michigan 241,828
Maryland 188,914
Virginia 169,371
Pennsylvania 149,561
Massachusetts 131,749

top ten states in US  have over 3,213,000 muslims many work in those companies so the boycott harms them.
It might be more effect for every muslim to simply quit those jobs in the USA and Asia muslims send them btc and other coins to survive.

Non violent,  but would be a good message to make companies listen to the plight.


got it from here:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/muslim-population-by-state

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November 25, 2023, 09:23:48 AM
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PS By the way a good example of a proper boycott: the other day Ilon Musk supported an anti-Semitic post. Bottom line: Apple, IBM, Disney, Warner Brothers, Discovery, Paramount and other major advertisers... refused to advertise on his network.... This is what a proper and effective boycott looks like

I know this has an impact on those involved. Even though it has small scale economic consequences. So, from the picture you have given, I don't think Elon will necessarily want to go in that direction because they may be bound by interests and if they want to do so, it could be considered a violation of freedom of expression, even though Elon indirectly has the right to express opinions.

Absolutely agree - everyone has the right to express their opinion and support one side or the other. But at the same time we should not forget that if you have rights, you also have obligations. For example, the obligation to be responsible for your words and actions. So Musk, expressing his opinion, should be prepared that he will have to get a response from the "other side" .who have their own opinion and have their own rights to act according to their views. So what we see is a normal state of affairs, and a normal reaction of market participants. After all, no one can tell them that this is not the way to do it and they should continue to advertise themselves on Twitter, filling Musk's pocket with their money, right? Smiley

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November 25, 2023, 10:33:46 AM
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Classic Zionist propagandist trying to twist the history and give legitimacy to the illegitimate Zionist regime which is now categorized as a terrorist organization.
I agree with you. Zionist and people who support Zionist, will always try to fool everyone with false pretenses. They will argue that they have the right to invade Palestinians because they assume it is their land. They may have varied reasons, but they can't deny that Palestinians are the people who live in the land for many years. Meanwhile the Zionist are the refugees or immigrants from other countries who try to steal Palestinians' land. According to this perspective (viewpoint), it is clear that which one that deserves to call as terrorists and take the responsibility of the brutal murder of Palestinians for decades.

At this point there is not much left of Palestine and Gaza is their last stance against the apartheid regime occupying their homes. They either win and wipe out Zionist terrorists then Palestinians and Jews can start living side by side like the past 2000 years or the terrorists succeed in their genocide and end Palestine which means next they start their expansion plans by invading other neighbors starting from the weakest Egypt and Jordan.
Indeed. Palestinians only have Gaza and few areas in West bank. If they wipe out all the Palestinians, they probably won't stop. They assume they are the people who choose by the God to control the world. So, it is not impossible if they will try to expand more their areas. I don't think they will try to attack Egypt and Jordan only, they may plan to rule the whole world.



Guys. Sorry, but this is my own opinion. Everyone has the right to have own view, right?  Grin


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Speaking of boycotting, many Islamic clerics around the world have issued a Fatwa declaring products linked to Zionists "haram". Two of the recent examples are Indonesia with about 240 million Muslims (87%) and Algeria with 45 million (99%).

And yet Saudi and Emirati dictatorships are still swimming against the tide!
I wouldn't be surprised to see the first real Arab Spring that is not started by the West but happens because of all the accumulated anger towards the dictators and their decisions that goes against people's wishes.

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November 25, 2023, 07:40:56 PM
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In my country have been more than one month our citizen boycott Israel product exactly with McDonald is the first standings product list have been boycott and more popular due this company have rumor helping the Israel solder when invasion to Palestine. Have been condition with some Israel product list have dropped with their values after boycotting exactly with countries dominance by Moslem, I don't know until how long Israel product will boycott by my citizen because they are most hate whit invasion did to Palestine. Other side, some Israel product have give bigger bonuses sale in last several week to make people excited to buy regarding more than 20% to 50% of bonuses.

And yet Saudi and Emirati dictatorships are still swimming against the tide!
I wouldn't be surprised to see the first real Arab Spring that is not started by the West but happens because of all the accumulated anger towards the dictators and their decisions that goes against people's wishes.
Have difference viewed with Saudi Arabia seems supported with Israel and they not fight what invasion did to Palestine, I don't know the effort from Saudi Arabia as moslem country but have close relationship with Israel and until right now never have official announcement they are condemning what did by Israel.

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November 25, 2023, 07:50:57 PM
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Have difference viewed with Saudi Arabia seems supported with Israel and they not fight what invasion did to Palestine, I don't know the effort from Saudi Arabia as moslem country but have close relationship with Israel and until right now never have official announcement they are condemning what did by Israel.

Even now I didn't understand the behavior of the Saudi Arab as they have a Muslim country and they have to support the Muslim even they may be in the any side of the World but they are against those Muslims and even they are still supporting the countries like which are against these Muslim and also that includes the Israel. They don't have to help them even in this situation.

And they are sending some helps to the Israel and the things which are used in the wars they are also providing them because they wants that the Palestine should destroyed which is so wrong.

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So far Starbucks seems to have taken the biggest hit from the boycotts since the company is also struggling with other issues. According to newsweek[1] the company got dumped $11 billion in value ever since the boycott started. Although I personally don't consider stock price as the best indication but the important thing here is that the company is also reporting lower sales and decreased foot traffic as they are losing customers which means the boycotts is one of the main reasons contributing to their losses.

[1] https://www.newsweek.com/starbucks-market-loss-boycotts-strikes-red-cup-day-1849713

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And yet Saudi and Emirati dictatorships are still swimming against the tide!
I wouldn't be surprised to see the first real Arab Spring that is not started by the West but happens because of all the accumulated anger towards the dictators and their decisions that goes against people's wishes.

That's right, it's also strange to see Saudi and the UAE still doing things that conflict with improving diplomatic relations with Israel in recent years. However, in my opinion, this is also a normal thing because every country also has special dynamics and factors that influence the course of events, but apart from all that, what must be urgent is how the safety of children and women during wartime can be guaranteed and the fallout minimized. victims and receive good protection.

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There are many organizations and people in Asia are boycotting Israel's product because they're stand with Palestine. But I see it's really wrong because they mixed up both Western brands and Israel brands as they boycotting brands like: McDonald, Fanta, Garnier, Nestea, Starbucks etc. I'm not sure what's their reason to do that, but I take McDonald as the example, they boycotting McDonald because McDonald's franchise in Israel is supporting Israel.

They forget if it's a franchise, it's not the McDonald's headquarter is supporting Israel. The franchise in other country has no relation with Israel, yet people boycott them. This can give effect to their own economy because the franchise will not make money to pay the employees, resulting salary cut or get fired, unemployment rate will increase.

AFAIK there's only one brand, that clearly supporting Israel, after all it's your choice to boycott them or not.

It's really not make sense to boycott franchise's product, if you want to boycott Israel's product, here are their brands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Israeli_brands

If you want to support Palestine, find the trusted charity in your respective country and make a donation on there.

Think smarter, don't ruin the economy in your country because of sUppOrTInG PaLEStinE by doing that.

Boycotts, or at least attempts at them, seem to happen every other week now due to some controversy or other. They are quickly forgotten in he interconnected and globalized world that we live in. The fact is that so many supply and services chains overlap that it is harder than ever to distinguish the geographic location that sometimes thousands of components come from in, for example, an item of technology like a car. However they can sometimes be useful for keeping a company in check, if they take sometimes extreme views on a certain topic and public pressure can cause them to roll back obviously discriminatory rules. Look at budget airlines for example, who are forever trying to cut back in the search for profits and sometimes need a reminder on basic decency.

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This is a poor way to tackle the current situation in Gaza. If the Muslim fanatics keep ignoring and boycotting produce from Israel, would that stop the current war? The best way is to seek for ways to ensure that this war does not take too long or else many people would lose their lives. Instead of boycotting produce from Israel just like it happens during the early period of the war between Russia and Ukraine. Many countries try to reject products from Russia in order to cripple the Russia economy so that the government would not have funds to produce more ammunitions but that still did not have effect on the war.

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This is a poor way to tackle the current situation in Gaza. If the Muslim fanatics keep ignoring and boycotting produce from Israel, would that stop the current war? The best way is to seek for ways to ensure that this war does not take too long or else many people would lose their lives. Instead of boycotting produce from Israel just like it happens during the early period of the war between Russia and Ukraine. Many countries try to reject products from Russia in order to cripple the Russia economy so that the government would not have funds to produce more ammunitions but that still did not have effect on the war.
So why don't you join in boycotting Israeli products to stop the war in Gaza against civilians and stop their economy from buying bombs and ammunition which has claimed the lives of 17 thousand civilians, sorry for the question because you are pro-Ukraine. I am talking about humanity and various people in the world also want a ceasefire and we want to live in peace without sacrificing anyone's life. In my opinion, if you care about humanity then you will boycott their products as a criticism that we care about anyone regardless of religion or race, all humans were created by God to live temporarily and let God have the right to punish anyone who commits damage and mistakes in the world.

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https://currentaffairs.adda247.com/boycott-israel-products-list-2023/

There are many organizations and people in Asia are boycotting Israel's product because they're stand with Palestine. But I see it's really wrong because they mixed up both Western brands and Israel brands as they boycotting brands like: McDonald, Fanta, Garnier, Nestea, Starbucks etc. I'm not sure what's their reason to do that, but I take McDonald as the example, they boycotting McDonald because McDonald's franchise in Israel is supporting Israel.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mcdonalds-owners-fight-over-support-for-israel/ar-AA1jgQRE

They forget if it's a franchise, it's not the McDonald's headquarter is supporting Israel. The franchise in other country has no relation with Israel, yet people boycott them. This can give effect to their own economy because the franchise will not make money to pay the employees, resulting salary cut or get fired, unemployment rate will increase.

AFAIK there's only one brand, that clearly supporting Israel, after all it's your choice to boycott them or not.

It's really not make sense to boycott franchise's product, if you want to boycott Israel's product, here are their brands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Israeli_brands

If you want to support Palestine, find the trusted charity in your respective country and make a donation on there.

Think smarter, don't ruin the economy in your country because of sUppOrTInG PaLEStinE by doing that.

I guess they're not mixing up Israeli brands and Western brands but they're doing it deliberately because the US supports Israel. US is Israel's #1 weapons supplier. So it's pretty logical they're boycotting Western products and brands as well.

Regarding franchises, they're local companies that's true but they're still paying franchise fees to the mother companies, so it's pretty logical too.
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This boycott stuff made me think that there are alternative to imported products we use in daily life. For last month,  I am trying to buy grocery items of local products and for my surprise local product's like tea, cooking oil, ketchup are as good as there counter imported product's. Don't know why we are attracted to imported products when our local products are good enough for consumption.

As far as boycotting Mcdonald is concerned, it has a symbolic value also that anyone who is openly supporting the genocide carries out in Gaza then we are not with that company. In Pakistan, there is massive decline in sale of Mcdonald and KFC. I myself witness of empty KFC and Mcdonald outlets.

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My cousin works at Starbucks but he has had his working hours reduced because visitors to Starbucks have decreased drastically since the boycott was carried out by people.

To be honest, on the one hand, I feel sorry for him, but what is currently people doing (the boycott) is the best thing to stop the madness of war. what is being done by Israel towards Palestine, humanity remains above all even though we will see many people who will be unemployed.
Starbucks loses 12 billion $ (I think it will be increase because the movement is still continued in many countries) for boycotting Israeli's products around in the world,
Definitely it's a extreme destruction they faced. Not only starbucks, other many israeli's brands also boycotted.

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