Gambling Casinos with Online and Offline version, Are they the same?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

If yes, then why is it that in terms of trust, they appear to be so different?

I will give you guys two examples.

My first example is 1xbet.com
   Over here in my country, we have a local domain for this casino which is known as either ng.1xbet.com or 1xbet.ng, I want to believe that the global domain is 1xbet.com.

Now, here is the thing, here in my country, we trust 1xbet to be one of the most reputable gambling and betting platform, Infact, there are hundreds of thousands of betting agents scattered all over the states in the country that are directly affiliated with this casino, and millions of gamblers all over the country patronize them.

But coming back to the online version of 1xbet, we learn that the same company that founded 1xbit-(a casino proven to be operated by scammers), is the same company that founded 1xbet, and for this reason (I suppose) 1xbet can't be trusted, and many online gamblers advice other gamblers online to stay away from 1xbet, meanwhile, offline, this casino is highly trusted.


My second example is Betking.io
    Betking.io is another highly trusted betting and gambling casino in their offline version, over here in Nigeria, this casino is known as one of the most big and successful betting company all over the country, just as I commented here, they have alot of betting agents all over the country with millions of customers, Infact, in my street alone, we have 4 or 5 betting agents who are affiliate of betking.io.

This is another highly trusted betting and gambling casino in their offline version,
But coming back to their online version, they have the worst reputation in terms of trust, Infact, on this forum, Betking representative have alot of negative tags from highly reputable members of this forum, and we all are warned to stay away from playing on this casino.


What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

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[Eternad]

I believe you are pertaining to Betking.com which is the one popular on Nigeria while the Betking.io is already closed online casino that is once popular in the popular but shutdown due to failure on managing bankroll from their investors.

They are different casino.

Regarding 1xbet and the one in your local, I’m not sure the background but some local version of the same brand sometimes have different owner/management. This is the reason why the experience seems different while they have similar brand.

[www.Gambler.Casino]

Do you mean that the difference is only in reputation? Or do the odds on sports betting and the frequency of winnings in slots differ?
Of course, there is more trust in an offline office, because it is more difficult for them to refuse payment

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Do you mean that the difference is only in reputation? Or do the odds on sports betting and the frequency of winnings in slots differ?
Of course, there is more trust in an offline office, because it is more difficult for them to refuse payment

Well, I am talking or discussing about their difference in reputation in particular, I've sometime played on 1xbet online, but have never played offline through their betting agents, so I honestly do not have any idea if online and offline odds of this casinos are different, I am particularly an online gambler, which is to say that, all my gambling activities have always been online even though we have alot of local betting agents here representing different casinos with physical offices and shops, I've never tried any of them.

So I am particularly concerned about that difference in their reputation, not odds or frequency of winnings in slot or their casino games, I wouldnt know if there is a difference in odds if I never did try the both versions.

So, yeah, it's all about their reputation that seems to counter each other that I am particularly interested in.

I believe you are pertaining to Betking.com which is the one popular on Nigeria while the Betking.io is already closed online casino that is once popular in the popular but shutdown due to failure on managing bankroll from their investors.

I confirm that betking.com is online and is the legitimate one I am talking about, but betking.io is also still online, but doesnt look like a full-fledged casino, since the only the game find their is the Hi-Lo game.

Thank you for pointing this out to me.

[Rruchi man]

- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?

I do not think it is impossible because there is franchise, where an individual or group of individuals can pay for the License of an already established company to operate under them with their name, so maybe the operators of the online versions of these offline casinos are different.

- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Another angle to it is that some of these offline casino's are not meant to run online arms because they are not prepared for it or do not have the resources for it, but they go ahead to ignore these all, and start the online side, as a result they fail.

Not all casinos are meant to be online.

[alani123]

Could it be that you're confusing betking.com with betking.io?

I'm pretty sure betking.io was a casino that started with an ICO and is pretty notorious over here in bitcointalk for having many dissatisfied investors. There's a huge discussion about this in the thread you also linked in the OP.

So the Nigerian betking seems to be a successful casino in Nigeria but probably has nothing to do with the .io betking that's known in bitcointalk.

[Adbitco]

Have you checked that of the forum is 1xbit and not 1xbet though I don't know if they are both the same since I never used them before in the forum, then back to offline 1xbet I have I actually used it to gamble then and I don't see any issues with them my withdrawal and deposit was smooth without any bad records. Sometimes I noticed that this sites are dependants of the representative or customer care services how active they are to resolve issues and if they are that active and smart believe no one will file a case against them or even raise a topic for them, look very well you will see is either kyc problem or withdrawal issues and when a bettor starts passing through all these things they are easily led to create scam against them since they can't handle the situation.

Note I am not in any way supporting any of these sites

[leonair]

The rules of playing in the online version and offline version of gambling, the odds may be the same, but in terms of reputation and to hide yourself from gambling, online casino is a much better medium because when you play offline gambling, you have to face people.  Again, chances of panic in offline gambling are high, but in case of online gambling, one can sit in a quiet place and play with a cool head.  However, both online and offline casinos are the same in terms of regulations

[NeilLostBitCoin]

You may experience confusion when encountering two similar website names with different domains. This is because some scammers may create websites with names similar to reputable ones with the intention of gaining users trust. They then use this trust to trick users into depositing their money onto their platforms. It is important to exercise caution and double-check the website's authenticity before making any financial transactions.

[ryzaadit]

IMO, even they're provided offline service.

If the service came from the same provider/company, off course they're same. But, If you asking from different company/casino comparing to (Online Casino A x Offline Casino B) you are gonna to get a different things.

So, same casino = same
different casino = different

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Could it be that you're confusing betking.com with betking.io?

I'm pretty sure betking.io was a casino that started with an ICO and is pretty notorious over here in bitcointalk for having many dissatisfied investors. There's a huge discussion about this in the thread you also linked in the OP.

So the Nigerian betking seems to be a successful casino in Nigeria but probably has nothing to do with the .io betking that's known in bitcointalk.

Yes, I sure confused both, and this is because I actually have always thought that both are the same, and operated under the same management, just getting to learn now that they are both different gambling companies.

And this prompted me to do a small research on both, and I now discovered that betking.com was registered in 2001 and is highly trusted, while betking.io was registered in 2015, and is with a bad reputation in terms of trust, which means, betking.io management probably used the good reputation of betking.com to scam people who must have (like myself) believe that they are the same company and invested in them.

It's all becoming clear to me now, never knew that it was possible for two different companies to register under the same domain name with different extension.

[Die_empty]

What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

From this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg59824374#msg59824374
1xbet and 1xbet are owned by the same individuals or organization. This is because both websites use the same IP addresses and they both use the same wallet. There is no information to determine if these casinos are managed by different people but that might be the case.

It might also be true that 1xbet was mismanaged which led to the decline of its reputation. It is easier to scam people in online casinos than in its offline version. Government regulations and policies and the casino's physical presence will make offline casinos up and running. They will do everything possible to make the business work because some person can be held responsible for their failure.

[alani123]

Yes, I sure confused both, and this is because I actually have always thought that both are the same, and operated under the same management, just getting to learn now that they are both different gambling companies.

And this prompted me to do a small research on both, and I now discovered that betking.com was registered in 2001 and is highly trusted, while betking.io was registered in 2015, and is with a bad reputation in terms of trust, which means, betking.io management probably used the good reputation of betking.com to scam people who must have (like myself) believe that they are the same company and invested in them.

It's all becoming clear to me now, never knew that it was possible for two different companies to register under the same domain name with different extension.

I'm not sure if betking.io used betking.com's reputation.

betking.com might be an established casino in nigeria but as it goes with many such businesses, they've optimized their services to this country's audience mostly.
I browse online casinos daily and never happened to come across betking.com. Most probably that's because it's a casino specific to Nigeria. For casinos that seek out national licenses it's almost a must to actually optimize their services to the country they're holding the license at, so it doesn't surprise me.

[Broadanbig]

I was thinking about it to be a casino owned by two different people but possibly they must have registered and paid to have the name in their favor as it is a popular casino that is well known in the gambling industry. The casino might likely varies in terms of administration and management activities because the both team experience in managing both  casinos also varies in different perspective as they are coming form both dimension and engagement. Looking at the both services, the online casino might have lapses with some aspect of the casino which would warrant uproars and definitely affect the casino as it is a virtual or digitally managed while the offline casino is more of the physical bet office very close to the people and are swift to responding to the complaint of their clients which is very much complex with the online casino. I think these few points are valid to go with.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

You may experience confusion when encountering two similar website names with different domains. This is because some scammers may create websites with names similar to reputable ones with the intention of gaining users trust. They then use this trust to trick users into depositing their money onto their platforms. It is important to exercise caution and double-check the website's authenticity before making any financial transactions.

Personally, I completely understand this, and I believe that any one who have spent atleast one year online should already know this as well that, some scammers are so talented to the extent that they can clone an entire website and make it look exactly like the original one, the only place there will be some kind of difference is in the link, that is the url, which they will also try as much as possible to make it look like exactly the original one, but there will always be a letter difference, which sometimes is usually hard to notice, except the user pays a very close attention.

However, what we are discussing is quite different from this, it's like a company that is operating online and offline, but people trust and patronize the said company offline, meanwhile, on their online version, they are seen or perceived as scammers.
This is what we are discussing exactly.

[Gozie51]

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What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?

So apart from the information that betking.com and betking.io are not the same, the reason I want to adduce to the difference between offline casinos or game house and online casino in terms of reputation is that offline casino is quite physical and the owner might even be seen on the streets or the resident is a public secret. Therefore, the proximity is there and he could probably be lynched by aggrieved addict  . So they always would keep their game on top notch unlike online casino that remedy at worst scenario would be a court adjudication.

[Wiwo]

Just to mention a justification for the fact that 1xbet has similar to 1xbit operators,  because recently 1xbet has been called out by some Nigerians who won 80 million nairas and 1xbet blatantly refuses to pay them their winning, this is the same pattern being used by both casin which justify to that fact.

But on the bet king's situation,  I haven't really been following up with the casino here in the online community,  although the casino is quite popular here in the local region.

[Nwada001]

Have you checked that of the forum is 1xbit and not 1xbet though I don't know if they are both the same since I never used them before in the forum, then back to offline 1xbet I have I actually used it to gamble then and I don't see any issues with them my withdrawal and deposit was smooth without any bad records. Sometimes I noticed that this sites are dependants of the representative or customer care services how active they are to resolve issues and if they are that active and smart believe no one will file a case against them or even raise a topic for them, look very well you will see is either kyc problem or withdrawal issues and when a bettor starts passing through all these things they are easily led to create scam against them since they can't handle the situation.

Note I am not in any way supporting any of these sites

It has already been proven in the forum, and I think I have also read about it aside from this forum that both casinos are owned and managed by the same individuals, which many times the 1Xbit itself has proven to be a scam casino in here due to the many unresolved issues they have here.
 
In the aspect of betting with them in their offline shop, you are not the only one who has had experience with them. Many of my friends bet in their physical shop, and even on the 1xBet online betting sites, they have been winning and losing just as they experience in other casinos, and there has not been any issue of withdrawal problems or account closure issues. This experience has been brought here to the forum before, and someone confirmed that they were close to someone who won close to $40k in local currency and were able to withdraw it.
 
What I just believe is that most of these casinos have different representatives in different countries, and different licencing licences are being governed by them. Maybe the person in charge of the one in our locality still wants to maintain a good reputation, and it could also be possible that the casino active here can just be a partnership where someone else is completely in control of it and the main team might have nothing to do with it.

[Sunderland]

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From my what I knew the 1xbet thing you mentioned above must be the same company.
On certain countries the casinos (online) using agents to promote their service, here is how it works:
The agent must deposit some money, for example $10k and they will be given limited access to the casino backoffice to handle anyone who registered under the agent.
The user can pay with cash or bank transfer to the agent and he/she will credit it manually, same method with withdrawal.
The user will be given a username and password to access the platform and if the user doesnt have a smartphone then they only need to call the agent or meet face to face to check the odds and place the bets.
The agent will get commissions from any bets (no matter win or lose) made by everyone under his referrals also the agent has a privilege to become "a house" for any users under him (share profits/loss with the casino).
There will be no KYC for the users with this method, however rogue agents can runaway with the users money and the casino will be not responsible for that.

These might be the answer why 1xbet is popular there while in here the platform famous as a scam platform, any issue with the platform will be taking care by the agents.
The platform will not dare to confiscated any money including the users deposit/balance under the agent, maybe they will only void the bet if they think the games are rigged or the user abuse it.

[OgNasty]

I’ve never heard the term offline casino before. I was wondering how an online casino could have an offline version but it seems as though you’re talking about an actual casino that exists physically. Very weird to refer to it as an offline casino. I think you may be spending a little too much time behind a computer if you refer to normal things in your life as the offline versions.