Gambling Casinos with Online and Offline version, Are they the same?

[seoincorporation]

I’ve never heard the term offline casino before. I was wondering how an online casino could have an offline version but it seems as though you’re talking about an actual casino that exists physically. Very weird to refer to it as an offline casino. I think you may be spending a little too much time behind a computer if you refer to normal things in your life as the offline versions.

I think OP has a confusion, if you have a casino with a restricted area that doesn't mean it's offline.

Some casinos need to make some mirrors with small changes based on the local laws, and a good example of this is stake.com and stake.us. Since US users can't play on the dot com site they have their own version, which is like a clone or a mirror of the original but with a little twist in the Terms Of Service.

[Porfirii]

Fivestar4everMVP, you should take a break from bitcointalk

Nah, to be honest I think almost the same way as you do, but in terms of online vs real life (I still have a shred of sanity left, but not much).

Now that you talk about 1xbit/1xbet, taking into account their reputation here, I was surprised to see that they have ads in top crypto services like coinmarketcap or myetherwallet. I still talking about the online version, but regardless their reputation in the forum, it seems that there are still some doubts about their legitimacy or such platforms wouldn't advertise them. Or most probably these platforms are simply sold to the highest bidder.

And now you tell us that in your country they have physical locations too where people can gamble? Now you have completely surprised me. Who knows, it might be true that they are changing their modus operandi. There's no need to be shady when the legal business is good...

[un_rank]

Perspective plays a huge role in this. Online and offline versions of platforms are one and the same, with the same values and mode of operation, what changes is the customers and how they perceive the platform.

- Physical players will attribute majority of any issue they face to the short comings of the staff they meet at the outlet and less to the general company itself, but in the online version it is all targeted to the business.

- Also, it is difficult to carry out routine scams like defaulting on payment in a physical outlet, cause the customer is there in person, but online is more complicated. The team can block them out and ask customer care to keep repeating the same generic text to them till they get tired.

- Lastly, this forum is not the standard for online perception. 1xbet and 1xBit has a bad rep here, but the rest of the internet does not really care for what they do.

- Jay -

[iv4n]

And this prompted me to do a small research on both, and I now discovered that betking.com was registered in 2001 and is highly trusted, while betking.io was registered in 2015, and is with a bad reputation in terms of trust, which means, betking.io management probably used the good reputation of betking.com to scam people who must have (like myself) believe that they are the same company and invested in them.

One is fiat, and the other is crypto casino... There are fiat land-based casinos with their internet version, at least in my country almost all land-based casinos have their online version and they are pretty much the same, but of course, that online version has more slot & live games, but when it comes to sports markets they are the same, with same odds. I noticed that online versions offer some nice bonuses, but that is probably to attract more people.

As far as I know, there is still no land-based crypto casino, at least not fully crypto. I guess there are land-based casinos that accept crypto, but that's not the same. Maybe Stake (as one of the biggest probably) will build one in the near future.

[Hispo]

Both posibilties are quite reasonable, if you asked me. If an offline casinos wanted to expand their operations in the realm of online gambling, then it would make sense they would try to hire some personnel to handler the online version, while the usual personnel takes care of the offline version, it is always possible to hire the wrong people who may end up sinking the reputation of the online version beyond redemption.
It is also possible those online versions were conceived from the begginning as a tool to selectively scam clients and gamblers who live overseas and hence, cannot do much about the scam. That would be something done by the casino to survive by stealing funds under a different name, while keeping their original brand somewhat intact, during periods of times when the business is not doing good.

[Johnyz]

You may experience confusion when encountering two similar website names with different domains. This is because some scammers may create websites with names similar to reputable ones with the intention of gaining users trust. They then use this trust to trick users into depositing their money onto their platforms. It is important to exercise caution and double-check the website's authenticity before making any financial transactions.

This is why we have to do our own research first before you gamble on any site just to be sure that you are dealing with the best site and not taking the risk of getting scam. Didn’t know how the offline gambling works in a world of crypto where its totally online, I’m really curious about this one. Having that offline version seems alarming to me and I’m not ok with it honestly especially if the site is still new and can’t be trusted.

[Hamphser]

Could it be that you're confusing betking.com with betking.io?

I'm pretty sure betking.io was a casino that started with an ICO and is pretty notorious over here in bitcointalk for having many dissatisfied investors. There's a huge discussion about this in the thread you also linked in the OP.

So the Nigerian betking seems to be a successful casino in Nigeria but probably has nothing to do with the .io betking that's known in bitcointalk.

Im having ton the same thoughts on which they might really be just that similar on name but those domain names differences is really that noticeable or something that needs to watch out.
Nothing is confirmed for them to be on the same ownership not unless if there would really be some formal or official announcement that they are operating both offline and online
but if we cant really be able to see such thing then it is really that safe to assume that they are owned by different individuals. Names could really be named the same
but there would really be those slight letter differences or whatsoever. There might be similar on some time but making some indepth research would be the key
if you are really trying to dig up something.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I’ve never heard the term offline casino before. I was wondering how an online casino could have an offline version but it seems as though you’re talking about an actual casino that exists physically. Very weird to refer to it as an offline casino. I think you may be spending a little too much time behind a computer if you refer to normal things in your life as the offline versions.

Hahahahahahahaha..!!! Exactly!
He actually meant to say "casino houses" but then, we all understood the massage behind the information he conveyed..
I think all of the casinos you mentioned isn't sharing any domian maintenance and operators.. 1xbit is managed by a different set of malicious techs and it obviously has a different brand name from 1xbet.. you can't expect peeps to condemn them for whatever atrocities ixbit has committed over the years now...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[Dunamisx]

Any casino can have both online and physical gambling site, this does not make a difference in them, just as the way an organization can appear in their unique global appearance with a particular website domain address and still have another base on the country they are being situation, just as you've made an example from your illustration OP, another good example is the Binance exchange, they have the global and US Binance, so are some of these gambling platforms they are mostly thesame except if the hackers cloned their website version or domain name to scam people.

[Ojima-ojo]

Could it be that you're confusing betking.com with betking.io?

I'm pretty sure betking.io was a casino that started with an ICO and is pretty notorious over here in bitcointalk for having many dissatisfied investors. There's a huge discussion about this in the thread you also linked in the OP.

So the Nigerian betking seems to be a successful casino in Nigeria but probably has nothing to do with the .io betking that's known in bitcointalk.

Im having ton the same thoughts on which they might really be just that similar on name but those domain names differences is really that noticeable or something that needs to watch out.
Nothing is confirmed for them to be on the same ownership not unless if there would really be some formal or official announcement that they are operating both offline and online
but if we cant really be able to see such thing then it is really that safe to assume that they are owned by different individuals. Names could really be named the same
but there would really be those slight letter differences or whatsoever. There might be similar on some time but making some in-depth research would be the key
if you are really trying to dig up something.

It's hard to say what and how exactly we can relate and connect both online and offline versions of the said casinos, even as it glaring from the domain names that there may be a likely connection even as it is not proven, it is very important to now ask for whatever evidence that can help us to unravel the truth between what connection and the how the lent of that connection could be.


It will take a whole load of time money to be able point out what are the level of the connections between the two casinos and if their are not discovered to be own by the same team then they deserve the same trust rating.

[Crypt0Gore]

Online experience is always different to offline experience, generally about all things, you can't expect the experience to be the same just because it's the same company, online has it's advantage already and that's why I become a gambler today, if there is no online casinos I will never visit any casino nearby to gamble, doing such thing in the public is not my way.

You can also start a business offline and it will fail over the years and bring the same business online and it will be way better, the thing about running a business is risk, you will never know what the result you will get will be like, not until you give it a trail and see what happens, this is why you will see some project will very good utilities that still fail.

Everything is risk, you won't know what you will get until you try, mind you, this casino you are talking about might not belong to the same person, just because they are sharing the same name doesn't mean it belongs to the same person, this days it's getting harder to form company names, that's why new projects are using...-... Between their names.

As we all believe that 1xbit or 1xbet is a scam on this forum, someone somewhere might decide to use this same name for his located casino offline and that wont stop the business from doing well.

[Assface16678]

Well, in the first place, online itself is dangerous and risky. Once you've connected to the internet and gone online, you are vulnerable. That's why many scammers are lingering on the internet, taking advantage of those who don't have or have little knowledge of navigating the internet. That's why even if an offline casino has an online version, you should always be careful, as many skilled scammers can duplicate a certain website, so it's easy for them to replicate an offline casino to attract victims. That's why it's important to do your own research, conduct an assessment, and read the terms and conditions.

Not all online versions of a casino are scams or not trusted; we just have to identify who is the trusted one, do double security before ingaging on a website, and if you notice an anomaly or there is negative feedback about that specific online casino, then better think again.

[piebeyb]

For me, online and offline casinos will never be much different, if indeed offline casinos are much bigger than online casinos, it is clear that they cannot manage online casinos so their users often get into trouble. That's why people in your area may be more interested in playing at offline casinos, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that many online casinos are also good and have lots of users.

Moreover, if it is run by the same person, whether it is an offline or online casino, it is certain that what they do in an online casino must also be done in an offline casino, it's just that we can't see their reputation from online review sites, because of course they are more closed and not published. so in my opinion there is no difference, that's why I prefer to gamble at a casino that has a good reputation to avoid problems, especially complicated cases and we know that 1xbit is a fraudulent site that must be avoided

[mak013]

I`ve seen several such offline casinos in my city. But it looks mostly like bookie`s office, but not like casino. If we are talking about trust - it is the same. And some old men still prefers offline bookie. Also we can KYC in the offline casino faster and sometimes, when they have some doubts it is the only way for KYC.
As for me - i don`t like them, it is more comfortable to gamble from home.

[junder]

This is another highly trusted betting and gambling casino in their offline version,
But coming back to their online version, they have the worst reputation in terms of trust, Infact, on this forum, Betking representative have alot of negative tags from highly reputable members of this forum, and we all are warned to stay away from playing on this casino.


What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

Regarding the reputation of 1xbet Offline casino, it is measured based on the rating of people around and when playing there is no problem. Therefore, there is a positive value because it is believed that it can operate properly. But when it comes to online casinos, the reputation of this casino is bad/fraud and so on, it cannot stop other people's judgment of casinos that are run offline. That also applies to your local Betking offline casino. For example, if you convince people around you that Betking/1xbet (online) casino has committed fraud, they will definitely deny it because the involvement of online and offline operations is considered different. Starting from the way offline casinos work which can be seen, measured and witnessed. So accusing them will be very difficult. Betking/1xbet operating online involves many people and from different user groups so it will be difficult to convince people who play directly in offline casinos. This could be the reason that as long as playing at Betking/1xbet offline casino doesn't harm them, then they don't really care about what goes on behind online gambling. For me personally, these casinos operate online or offline, I would never touch them at all.

[shield132]

If yes, then why is it that in terms of trust, they appear to be so different?

I will give you guys two examples.

My first example is 1xbet.com
   Over here in my country, we have a local domain for this casino which is known as either ng.1xbet.com or 1xbet.ng, I want to believe that the global domain is 1xbet.com.

Now, here is the thing, here in my country, we trust 1xbet to be one of the most reputable gambling and betting platform, Infact, there are hundreds of thousands of betting agents scattered all over the states in the country that are directly affiliated with this casino, and millions of gamblers all over the country patronize them.

1xbet is a very strange casino. It's known for everybody that they are scammers but they are super popular at the same time. They have private room in Evolution Gaming full of 1xbet tables with 1xbet background and they don't have only 1 private room, they have 2. They have some other tables too and there are so many Russian players playing all the time.

Have you checked that of the forum is 1xbit and not 1xbet though I don't know if they are both the same since I never used them before in the forum, then back to offline 1xbet I have I actually used it to gamble then and I don't see any issues with them my withdrawal and deposit was smooth without any bad records.

Open 1xbit.com and 1xbet.com side by side in your browser, you'll notice that both of them are using the same system. They both use Bet-B2B.com to manage their casinos but years ago 1xbet and bet-b2b had exactly the same color system on their websites that makes me think that bet-b2b and 1xbet are managed by the same team. Then you have 1xbit on bet-b2b's platform. Does anyone think that 1xbet and 1xbit will be managed by different people? And keep in mind that 1xbet and 1xbit had tables in Evolution next to each-other.

[Bitinity]

What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

I have never seen a casino which has its offline and online version but the casino gets different reputation between offline and online. Looking at the example you give especially 1xbet, do they have the offline version because you talk about different domain only. Assuming it is true that the local domain is official domain from 1xbet, how can you be sure that they are so reputable in your country? Is it because you know that most people in your country are betting in 1xbet or because it is the most popular one due its huge advertisement?

[Coin_trader]

For me, online and offline casinos will never be much different, if indeed offline casinos are much bigger than online casinos, it is clear that they cannot manage online casinos so their users often get into trouble. That's why people in your area may be more interested in playing at offline casinos, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that many online casinos are also good and have lots of users.

I beg to disagree to this. Online casino has less expenses than the offline casino that’s why RTP in online casino much higher since they don’t have much operating cost compared to offline casino that has a lot operational expenses from employees and the building itself. So they have big differences in terms of RTP and bonuses offer to players.

I never encounter a casino that has both online and offline here in my country since they might destroy their offline version since people will play online frequently due to convenience. They invest tons of money on the physical casino which is why online casino is not their typical option even during pandemic to maintain loyalty from their customers.

[bayu7adi]

I feel there are two issues that make this a bit different between an offline casino X platform and an online casino X platform.

1. Marketing strategies for each line should be different. Offline casinos deal with people face-to-face, while online ones have a broader market and don't meet people in person. Handling these situations should clearly be different, and the agents/employees running them should also be different. Reputation differences will naturally arise, given they are managed differently. Local interests will never be exactly the same as international interests online. That could be a reason why they differ in terms of reputation.

2. dirty competition. CEOs always strive to bring down their competitors, and the casino business falls into the realm of businesses that undermine each other (it could happen and is highly possible). An online gambling company might use the name of another offline gambling company for malicious purposes. Yes... they might intentionally provide poor service to tarnish the reputation of their competitor. It's as if these shady characters connect online and offline gambling platforms when, in reality, the offline casino hasn't released an online version at all. Competitors exploit this to damage other reputation.

Other possibilities could occur because every villain always has their own techniques to gain an advantage and never really cares about reputation.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

For me, online and offline casinos will never be much different, if indeed offline casinos are much bigger than online casinos, it is clear that they cannot manage online casinos so their users often get into trouble. That's why people in your area may be more interested in playing at offline casinos, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that many online casinos are also good and have lots of users.

I beg to disagree to this. Online casino has less expenses than the offline casino that’s why RTP in online casino much higher since they don’t have much operating cost compared to offline casino that has a lot operational expenses from employees and the building itself. So they have big differences in terms of RTP and bonuses offer to players.

I never encounter a casino that has both online and offline here in my country since they might destroy their offline version since people will play online frequently due to convenience. They invest tons of money on the physical casino which is why online casino is not their typical option even during pandemic to maintain loyalty from their customers.

You are right based on the RTP analogy you used, completely agree with you.

Overall, in comparing both offline and online version of the same casino, there will always be imbalances, like, one version, maybe the offline version, or the online version, depending on the area where the offline version is, one will always do well than the other, and this may make the other version look like money invested in building it was a waste.

Like for example, over here in my country, it is actually of recent that I see that people have started playing on 1xbet online version mostly, not very many compared to the number of persons that still patronize this casino's offline version.
The only difference now is that, those who patronize the offline version of the casino are majorly sports bettors, people who are betting on sports.

But in the online version, customers have the opportunity of playing alot of casino and slot games, aside from betting on sports alone.