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November 15, 2023, 08:19:23 PM
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https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13008830/anthony-joshua-returns-against-otto-wallin-and-deontay-wilder-faces-joseph-parker-on-same-bill-in-saudi-arabia

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Anthony Joshua returns against Otto Wallin and Deontay Wilder faces Joseph Parker on same bill in Saudi Arabia

Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder can set up a fight in 2024 if they both win their separate bouts on the same bill in Saudi Arabia on December 23; Joshua will fight Otto Wallin while Wilder takes on Joseph Parker in Riyadh

Press conference just finished: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRAmsnidfIw

Saudi have knocked it out of the park with another huge card for Riyadh Season which I'm sure makes up for the Fury V Usyk fight not happening until next year now. No idea how they managed to get this all sorted within a little over a week. Not sure who will headline out of the two co-mains but I'm sure we'll get a face-off between Aj and Wilder after and especially if they both win their fights.

Full line up:

https://boxing-social.com/news/card-confirmed-for-joshua-wilder/

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Anthony Joshua-Otto Wallin

Joshua looks to make it three for three this year against Swedish southpaw, Otto Wallin. Wallin took Tyson Fury the distance back in 2019 and has built back with six wins. The currently ranked IBF number two could provide a stern test for ‘AJ’ but, if he passes, a statement win would end his 2023 on a high. He’s expected to fight Wilder in the first half of 2024.

Deontay Wilder-Joseph Parker

The Joshua fight will only be the case should Wilder beat Parker, the former world champion who has bounced back from a punishing loss to Joe Joyce with three lower-level wins. The American looks to add a 43rd knockout to his record.

Dmitry Bivol-Lyndon Arthur

Bivol was facing a year of inactivity before this card came about, but will now fight his one bout of 2023 against the UK’s Lyndon Arthur, who has built up four wins since his loss to Anthony Yarde. Bivol will be looking to remain undefeated, keep his WBC Light-Heavyweight World Title and push for a unification against Artur Beterbiev.

Jai Opetaia-Ellis Zorro

Opetaia takes on his second British opponent in a matter of months, this time defending his IBF Cruiserweight World Title against 17-0 Ellis Zorro. A win for the Aussie sets him on the path of defending his belt in a rematch against the man he won if from – Mairis Breidis.

Daniel Dubois-Jarrell Miller

The post-fight debate of Dubois’ loss to Oleksandr Usyk in his world title attempt was all about a low-blow, but many felt they didn’t see enough heart from the young UK heavyweight. That will need to be on show throughout fight week and in the ring against undefeated brash American, Jarrell Miller – best known on these shores for squandering an opportunity to face Anthony Joshua by failing doping tests.

Arslanbek Makhmudov-Agit Kabayel

Two undefeated heavyweights collide, with Makhmudov the one with the momentum despite being three years older than 31-year-old Kabayel. The Russian looks to keep up his reputation as a knockout artist against Germany’s Kabayel, who has has fought once per year since 2017.

Frank Sanchez-Junior Fa

Undefeated Cuban heavyweight Frank Sanchez faces New Zealand’s Junior Fa, who was knocked out by Lucas Browne in one round in mid-2022 before returning with a low-level win this year. Sanchez, trained by Eddy Reynoso of Canelo fame, looks to move 24-0.

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IBF number one contender Filip Hrgovic faces 41-year-old Mark De Mori in the strangest match-up of the card. De Mori was knocked out by David Haye in one round back in 2016, but has recorded 11 wins since in mostly eight rounders. Fans expect Hrgovic to keep his mandatory position.

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November 15, 2023, 09:14:26 PM
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This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.


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November 15, 2023, 11:18:05 PM
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This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Joshua has won two fights already this year, he should not take this upcoming fight as a weak fight or an easy fight for him to easily win, he has to prepare very well because Wallin has a good record and has faced fighters as tough as Joshua is in his career. It is natural for me to support Anthony Joshua when he fights, so I will still be supporting him in this fight, and hope that he can knock the lights out of Wallin when they meet in December which will be a good statement to say he is ready for Wilder. I will like to see the Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder fight.

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November 16, 2023, 12:22:32 AM
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This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Because both agents are contacting one another to arrange a fight by December, many people were hoping to see Anthony Joshua and Wilder square off. However, before they face off in the boxing ring, they are unaware that the boxing organization has another plan for them.

The new rule, which calls for Wilder and Joshua to fight independently and prevail before their fight takes place by next year, is intended to demonstrate their physical strength and position as being among the world's best boxers. They(Wilder or Joshua) can't earn it without having a tough opponent from time to time. 

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This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.

Yeah, both Wilder and Joshua are heavy favorites in these matches with odds 1.17 and 1.26, respectively. But I'm more excited about Wilder vs. Parker here. Both are heavy punchers with the ability to end the fight right in the opening round. I bet the fight won't go the distance. Despite the lop-sided odds, I still think Parker can upset Wilder. As to Joshua vs. Wallin, I'm not expecting much. It will probably be not as explosive as the other bout.

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This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.

Yeah, both Wilder and Joshua are heavy favorites in these matches with odds 1.17 and 1.26, respectively. But I'm more excited about Wilder vs. Parker here. Both are heavy punchers with the ability to end the fight right in the opening round. I bet the fight won't go the distance. Despite the lop-sided odds, I still think Parker can upset Wilder. As to Joshua vs. Wallin, I'm not expecting much. It will probably be not as explosive as the other bout.

And there is Dmitry Bivol. I would just bet 3 fights for this event. Despite being still young AJ is not as good as before after his first loss or there are just fighters that he couldn't really beat because of the Southpaw stance. Saudi is ramping up because people there are hungry for entertainment and they are very rich to hold events like this.

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November 16, 2023, 04:02:06 AM
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The last time there was a card this stacked was probably when Don King was the top promoter many decades ago. I am impressed at the ability of the Saudis to bring together this lineup of fighters regardless of promoter or network affiliation.

Even if Wilder and Joshua have been diminished by the brutal beatings they've taken, it is still an intriguing potential matchup. I am not counting Wallin and Parker out. They are very capable fighters and it wouldn't surprise me if either of them won.

It's great to see Bivol back in action. Hopefully this leads to an undisputed fight with Beterbiev. The rest of the undercard is also interesting since it is full of contenders who would be headliners on any other night.

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November 16, 2023, 04:22:51 AM
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Wow! Saudi again. After the successful fight of Fury vs Ngannou, they go again with an even bigger one. Familiar names, and Dmitry Bivol is included, making this fight very interesting to watch. Well, I guess we can't expect a Fury vs Usyk anymore this year, as this one are also a big matchups to excite the fans.

I'm rooting for Joshua and Wilder to win their respective fights so they could face each other for the first time.

As for Dmitry Bivol, I think he'll be a sure winner here.

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[....]'No idea how they managed to get this all sorted within a little over a week.
I was trying to look for the money offered to them to accept this fight but nothing has appeared so far. The amount must have been hard to resist. They are also fighting some boxers who they probably think it's not much of a threat so that made the decision easier. If it was straight up Joshua vs Wilder for Dec. 23 then I doubt it will happen.

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This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.

Yeah, both Wilder and Joshua are heavy favorites in these matches with odds 1.17 and 1.26, respectively. But I'm more excited about Wilder vs. Parker here. Both are heavy punchers with the ability to end the fight right in the opening round. I bet the fight won't go the distance. Despite the lop-sided odds, I still think Parker can upset Wilder. As to Joshua vs. Wallin, I'm not expecting much. It will probably be not as explosive as the other bout.

And there is Dmitry Bivol. I would just bet 3 fights for this event. Despite being still young AJ is not as good as before after his first loss or there are just fighters that he couldn't really beat because of the Southpaw stance. Saudi is ramping up because people there are hungry for entertainment and they are very rich to hold events like this.

Ngannou could have been in this card if he just agreed to fight Wilder. The man fumbles the bag again, he is stubborn.

However, how much would Francis Ngannou's purse be if his team agreed to fight the Bronze Bomber instead of Tyson Fury? Correct me if I am wrong but I reckon it would not be a bigger purse than fighting Fury. Also, Tyson Fury is a champion. It was not a championship fight, however, it was better to fight Fury than someone who is not champion and who also lost to Tyson Fury hehe.

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This is start studded we have popular names on the cards, and many of these are main event fighters like Joshua, Wilder, Dubois, Bivol, and Hrgovic you seldom see these kinds of cards on any boxing promotion in the United States, Saudi Arabia is slowly carving its name as the next Mecca of boxing and why not this is an oil-rich country and their neighboring countries people will flock to Saudi Arabia, this will attract a lot of tourist in this part of the Middle East.

It's going to be interesting to watch the media conference, I'm sure the fans and the media will be interested to ask Wilder and Joshua and they may engage in thrash talks because this event is where the boxing community knows if they are ready with each other.

This is a must-watch event not because of the star-studded lineup but more so on how Joshua and Wilder will perform against their respective opponents this will be the gauge if they are going to meet. 


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This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.

Yeah, both Wilder and Joshua are heavy favorites in these matches with odds 1.17 and 1.26, respectively. But I'm more excited about Wilder vs. Parker here. Both are heavy punchers with the ability to end the fight right in the opening round. I bet the fight won't go the distance. Despite the lop-sided odds, I still think Parker can upset Wilder. As to Joshua vs. Wallin, I'm not expecting much. It will probably be not as explosive as the other bout.

And there is Dmitry Bivol. I would just bet 3 fights for this event. Despite being still young AJ is not as good as before after his first loss or there are just fighters that he couldn't really beat because of the Southpaw stance. Saudi is ramping up because people there are hungry for entertainment and they are very rich to hold events like this.

Ngannou could have been in this card if he just agreed to fight Wilder. The man fumbles the bag again, he is stubborn.

However, how much would Francis Ngannou's purse be if his team agreed to fight the Bronze Bomber instead of Tyson Fury? Correct me if I am wrong but I reckon it would not be a bigger purse than fighting Fury. Also, Tyson Fury is a champion. It was not a championship fight, however, it was better to fight Fury than someone who is not champion and who also lost to Tyson Fury hehe.

It's not as big as what he got from Fury fight but it's still big compared to his fight in UFC. But most important of all is that he may just have a rank in WBC once he gets into the legitimate 12-round bout and not just the crossover fight hype. Fighting Wilder will put him as a pro boxer.

He is hoping that Fury will once again fight him when he knows it will take long because Arum already arranged for Fury vs Usyk and all they are waiting for is injuries to be healed.


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Wow! Saudi again. After the successful fight of Fury vs Ngannou, they go again with an even bigger one. Familiar names, and Dmitry Bivol is included, making this fight very interesting to watch. Well, I guess we can't expect a Fury vs Usyk anymore this year, as this one are also a big matchups to excite the fans.

I'm rooting for Joshua and Wilder to win their respective fights so they could face each other for the first time.

As for Dmitry Bivol, I think he'll be a sure winner here.

It will be some interesting fights and I will do my best to see them live in some sports bar. Both Wilder and Joshua are the favorite to win and a fight between the two of them would be pretty exciting! If it happens, I think Wilder is the favorite to win.



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It will be some interesting fights and I will do my best to see them live in some sports bar. Both Wilder and Joshua are the favorite to win and a fight between the two of them would be pretty exciting! If it happens, I think Wilder is the favorite to win.

Saudi really has the guts to stage such big fights. They have the money. They know how to attract fans from all over the world. I'll be making sure this day will also be free of appointments and other schedules.

If the two of them win in their respective matches, then it is becoming more probable for them to face each other next. If that happens, I agree with your that Wilder would be the favorite. And I also think that Wilder might knockout Joshua.
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It will be some interesting fights and I will do my best to see them live in some sports bar. Both Wilder and Joshua are the favorite to win and a fight between the two of them would be pretty exciting! If it happens, I think Wilder is the favorite to win.

Saudi really has the guts to stage such big fights. They have the money. They know how to attract fans from all over the world. I'll be making sure this day will also be free of appointments and other schedules.

Yeah, it's about the money now, I mean, oil money flowing to boxing? that will be great right?

If the two of them win in their respective matches, then it is becoming more probable for them to face each other next. If that happens, I agree with your that Wilder would be the favorite. And I also think that Wilder might knockout Joshua.

That is the plan in the beginning, Wilder and Joshua having a tune up with low risk opponents, just to get that cobwebs out before this two fight at the undercard of Usyk vs Fury.

So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.

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December 19, 2023, 11:23:36 AM
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If the two of them win in their respective matches, then it is becoming more probable for them to face each other next. If that happens, I agree with your that Wilder would be the favorite. And I also think that Wilder might knockout Joshua.

That is the plan in the beginning, Wilder and Joshua having a tune up with low risk opponents, just to get that cobwebs out before this two fight at the undercard of Usyk vs Fury.

So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.

The odds will be decided only after the fights because it also depends on how they perform. I believe both AJ and Wilder aren't as mentally stable as before. But in these fights, AJ is fighting the better opponent. The last time there were odds between these 2 popular heavyweights was when they were undefeated and AJ is always favored. Wallin is unbeaten since losing a decision to Fury a few years ago so he will be more confident of an upset while Parker at this current stage of his career is just too slow to threaten the unskillful but dynamite-fisted Wilder.

But I'll be more interested in seeing the world champions in this event, Dmitry Bivol and Jai Opetaia. Jai had confirmed that he will be helping Tyson Fury after his fight. The bad news is Jai also vacated his belt already because he prefers the life-changing offer in this event rather than face his mandatory.

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So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.

With those odds, it seems like an easy fight for Wilder. The thing is, when Wilder struggles against his opponents, he tends to lose, and that has only happened against Fury. So, against Parker, I believe it could be an easy KO for Wilder. Despite being defeated by Fury, Wilder is making a comeback, and if he continues to improve his ranking, there's a good chance he'll make a strong return.

Looking ahead to Fury vs. Usyk, if Fury wins, both AJ and Wilder might be forced to fight the champion for another shot. If that happens, fans might not be as excited, given Wilder's previous losses to Fury. However, against AJ, it could be different as we haven't seen him fight Fury. Yet, according to the books, AJ appears to be an easy target for Fury. These are just possibilities for the future, so for more exciting bouts in the heavyweight division, let's hope Usyk can beat Fury, as things could become uncertain against AJ or Wilder.

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The last time there was a card this stacked was probably when Don King was the top promoter many decades ago. I am impressed at the ability of the Saudis to bring together this lineup of fighters regardless of promoter or network affiliation.

Even if Wilder and Joshua have been diminished by the brutal beatings they've taken, it is still an intriguing potential matchup. I am not counting Wallin and Parker out. They are very capable fighters and it wouldn't surprise me if either of them won.

It's great to see Bivol back in action. Hopefully this leads to an undisputed fight with Beterbiev. The rest of the undercard is also interesting since it is full of contenders who would be headliners on any other night.

Most likely it's because of the money that Saudi can offer to stage this big fight. They started to become a boxing hub, not that we don't like to see fights happening in the Middle East, but they have open their doors and willing to shell out money to have this kind of stage in their country. And I do agree that we haven't seen this kind of card  that is pretty much stacked up. As for Bivol, I was surprised to read that he had his hands operated. So meaning that he has been suffering pain in his right now during his win against the cash cow Canelo Alvarez. But now that it is completely healed, then there should be no problems and it will be scary to see Bivol hand's throwing at 100%. So hopefully after this win, we can see him and Beterbiev fight in the future for the undisputed LHW champion.

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So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.

With those odds, it seems like an easy fight for Wilder. The thing is, when Wilder struggles against his opponents, he tends to lose, and that has only happened against Fury. So, against Parker, I believe it could be an easy KO for Wilder. Despite being defeated by Fury, Wilder is making a comeback, and if he continues to improve his ranking, there's a good chance he'll make a strong return.

Looking ahead to Fury vs. Usyk, if Fury wins, both AJ and Wilder might be forced to fight the champion for another shot. If that happens, fans might not be as excited, given Wilder's previous losses to Fury. However, against AJ, it could be different as we haven't seen him fight Fury. Yet, according to the books, AJ appears to be an easy target for Fury. These are just possibilities for the future, so for more exciting bouts in the heavyweight division, let's hope Usyk can beat Fury, as things could become uncertain against AJ or Wilder.

I think against Ortiz, he also struggle as Ortiz is very strong in the first early rounds. But when Wilder started to get hot and then he is hitting those bombs against Ortiz, it was just a matter of time before he caught him good and knock him down. However, against Fury it's a different story though, Tyson Fury was really controlling the fight and didn't get Wilder some space to make him comfortable.

And I do agree that this fight is just a busy fight for the two, Wilder and Joshua.

We might hear Parker and Wallin talking about derailing the supposedly Wilder vs Joshua. But I don't think that there will be surprises here.

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December 20, 2023, 02:00:30 AM
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If the two of them win in their respective matches, then it is becoming more probable for them to face each other next. If that happens, I agree with your that Wilder would be the favorite. And I also think that Wilder might knockout Joshua.

That is the plan in the beginning, Wilder and Joshua having a tune up with low risk opponents, just to get that cobwebs out before this two fight at the undercard of Usyk vs Fury.

So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.

The odds will be decided only after the fights because it also depends on how they perform. I believe both AJ and Wilder aren't as mentally stable as before. But in these fights, AJ is fighting the better opponent. The last time there were odds between these 2 popular heavyweights was when they were undefeated and AJ is always favored. Wallin is unbeaten since losing a decision to Fury a few years ago so he will be more confident of an upset while Parker at this current stage of his career is just too slow to threaten the unskillful but dynamite-fisted Wilder.

But I'll be more interested in seeing the world champions in this event, Dmitry Bivol and Jai Opetaia. Jai had confirmed that he will be helping Tyson Fury after his fight. The bad news is Jai also vacated his belt already because he prefers the life-changing offer in this event rather than face his mandatory.

Yes it is interesting to watch the world champions in this event as well but the reality is that Bivol and Jai's matches are more lop-sided than Wilder and Joshua's. They are all favorites but Wilder has odds of 1.15 and Joshua has 1.22. On the other hand, the inactive Bivol has odds of 1.01 and Jai has the same 1.01. If odds truly reflect the probabilities of all fighters to win then Wilder and Joshua's opponents have better chances of getting an upset than Bivol and Jai's. It seems Bivol and Jai are already sure winners if we look at their odds.
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