Wilder Vs Parker & Joshua Vs Wallin Boxing Mega Saudi card 23rd December

[Getmon]

I don't understand  anymore what Wilder is thinking. I mean, if AJ would not choose to fight him, there's nothing he can do with that as he messed up his chance to fight with AJ by losing in a unanimous decision, the fight even has a named which is the biggest upset this year for a big fight.

AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.

It is actually fun. It may not be fun on paper because of Wilder's recent loss to Parker, but since the two hasn't met yet, it must be a fight to watch. Not to mention that Joshua is not actually several steps higher than Wilder. To a certain extent, we can say that both are spent fighters.

And it seems the fight is wanted by both of them. Wilder is interested. Of course, why not, right? He is still trying to be relevant. It would be a good fight for a loser like him. But Joshua on the other hand is also interested. That would still mean big money for him and probably an easy one as far as he thinks. Wilder is approaching 40. He's old. He's well exposed. And if he's defeated by a boxer that Joshua already defeated, then he should be an easier opponent. Why would he be looking for riskier matches against more dangerous opponents?

Wilder and Joshua have signed an agreement and they are now talking to make it happen. But after Wilder lost to Parker, can Saudi Arabia engage in this match? We do not know the terms, were there stipulations that they must win their matches in order to move on?

Anyhow, Wilder is correct. He lost and will lose again when matched to good boxers. So why not simply request Joshua to carry on their agreement and acquire large sums of money? Wilder can retire richer if he loses to Joshua. And Wilder can have more matches in the event that he pulls a win on Joshua.

[btc_angela]

I don't understand  anymore what Wilder is thinking. I mean, if AJ would not choose to fight him, there's nothing he can do with that as he messed up his chance to fight with AJ by losing in a unanimous decision, the fight even has a named which is the biggest upset this year for a big fight.

AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.

It is actually fun. It may not be fun on paper because of Wilder's recent loss to Parker, but since the two hasn't met yet, it must be a fight to watch. Not to mention that Joshua is not actually several steps higher than Wilder. To a certain extent, we can say that both are spent fighters.

And it seems the fight is wanted by both of them. Wilder is interested. Of course, why not, right? He is still trying to be relevant. It would be a good fight for a loser like him. But Joshua on the other hand is also interested. That would still mean big money for him and probably an easy one as far as he thinks. Wilder is approaching 40. He's old. He's well exposed. And if he's defeated by a boxer that Joshua already defeated, then he should be an easier opponent. Why would he be looking for riskier matches against more dangerous opponents?

Wilder and Joshua have signed an agreement and they are now talking to make it happen. But after Wilder lost to Parker, can Saudi Arabia engage in this match? We do not know the terms, were there stipulations that they must win their matches in order to move on?

Anyhow, Wilder is correct. He lost and will lose again when matched to good boxers. So why not simply request Joshua to carry on their agreement and acquire large sums of money? Wilder can retire richer if he loses to Joshua. And Wilder can have more matches in the event that he pulls a win on Joshua.

Is it written agreement though? or it is just verbal between the camp of Joshua and Wilder. And if I'm going to put up a contract, obviously they will have to win their respective match before they can face each other and Wilder didn't carry out his terms as he lost.

And so with that, I doubt that the Saudis are willing to pay that huge money as Wilder seems to be out of his prime already.

They will have to look or maybe Joshua will have to wait for the winner of Usyk vs Fury fight.

[Fundamentals Of]

I don't understand  anymore what Wilder is thinking. I mean, if AJ would not choose to fight him, there's nothing he can do with that as he messed up his chance to fight with AJ by losing in a unanimous decision, the fight even has a named which is the biggest upset this year for a big fight.

AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.

It is actually fun. It may not be fun on paper because of Wilder's recent loss to Parker, but since the two hasn't met yet, it must be a fight to watch. Not to mention that Joshua is not actually several steps higher than Wilder. To a certain extent, we can say that both are spent fighters.

And it seems the fight is wanted by both of them. Wilder is interested. Of course, why not, right? He is still trying to be relevant. It would be a good fight for a loser like him. But Joshua on the other hand is also interested. That would still mean big money for him and probably an easy one as far as he thinks. Wilder is approaching 40. He's old. He's well exposed. And if he's defeated by a boxer that Joshua already defeated, then he should be an easier opponent. Why would he be looking for riskier matches against more dangerous opponents?

Wilder and Joshua have signed an agreement and they are now talking to make it happen. But after Wilder lost to Parker, can Saudi Arabia engage in this match? We do not know the terms, were there stipulations that they must win their matches in order to move on?

Anyhow, Wilder is correct. He lost and will lose again when matched to good boxers. So why not simply request Joshua to carry on their agreement and acquire large sums of money? Wilder can retire richer if he loses to Joshua. And Wilder can have more matches in the event that he pulls a win on Joshua.

Is it written agreement though? or it is just verbal between the camp of Joshua and Wilder. And if I'm going to put up a contract, obviously they will have to win their respective match before they can face each other and Wilder didn't carry out his terms as he lost.

And so with that, I doubt that the Saudis are willing to pay that huge money as Wilder seems to be out of his prime already.

They will have to look or maybe Joshua will have to wait for the winner of Usyk vs Fury fight.

A Joshua versus Wilder fight will probably remain interesting despite Wilder's recent loss. And I even believe that Wilder has a big chance of winning against Joshua. If Saudi Arabia isn't interested to sponsor and host this event because Wilder has already lost to Parker, then it could be held somewhere else. I think it still attracts a lot of boxing fans. It could be held in the UK. I'm sure boxing fans there would like to see Joshua fighting in his home country. With nice undercards, there would still be a big money from it.

[Dave1]

^^ Yes, it could be possible that AJ vs Parker is going to be push through by either side. I mean AJ doesn't have a dance partner, but they have to make a storyline between AJ and Parker so that they can sell that fight.

It used to be AJ vs Wilder, but we all know that Wilder didn't do his part and Wilder derail all the plans.

If Parker wanted to spoil everything they make him fight AJ, it's just the question of whether the Saudi's wanted that fight as obviously they wanted to stage the biggest fight ever in HW division.

[inthelongrun]

^^ Yes, it could be possible that AJ vs Parker is going to be push through by either side. I mean AJ doesn't have a dance partner, but they have to make a storyline between AJ and Parker so that they can sell that fight.

It used to be AJ vs Wilder, but we all know that Wilder didn't do his part and Wilder derail all the plans.

If Parker wanted to spoil everything they make him fight AJ, it's just the question of whether the Saudi's wanted that fight as obviously they wanted to stage the biggest fight ever in HW division.

The biggest fight at heavyweight will be the winner of Usyk-Fury defending all its belts against AJ. But I doubt people are interested in case Usyk beats Fury. It's less than 2 months already so if AJ is really interested in the belts especially the chance of becoming an undisputed champion, he should just wait. But I guess Eddie knows his ward is still a heavy underdog and there are a lot of low-risk-high-reward fights to exploit.

Parker suffered his first defeat at the hands of AJ in a big IBF-WBO-WBA unification fight. But it was also the first time AJ went the full distance as he failed to knock out Parker. The official cards gave AJ a wide UD. I haven't watched the fight but I saw the per-round punch stats and surprisingly it was close like it should've been a draw. So I think Parker is still dangerous to AJ with less reward. Wilder, MMA star Ngannou, and 40-year-old WBO interim Zhang should be Eddie's priority.

[hilariousetc]

So AJ who hinted an interest in fighting Wilder after his fight with Wallin. AJ might get it since Wilder after that humbling defeat to Parker started to talk once again. Wilder still wanted the AJ fight a go and was even saying that AJ might use the Parker victory as an excuse and pick another opponent.

Without a big Saudi offer, it won't be surprising if AJ offers Wilder a fight in the UK. It's still big and it's easy money if AJ stays disciplined the whole fight. But AJ being the most popular heavyweight right now could choose easier fights rather than the dangerous Hrgovic, Parker, and Usyk-Fury winner. Another good option is Ngannou and the 40-year-old WBO interim champ, Zhang Zhilei.

AJ isn't going to fight Wilder unless it's in Saudi for the big money. I still think the fight is there unless Saudi stipulated both needed to win their fights for it to happen but I'm sure they could still make it happen regardless. AJ is wanting to get back on the path for a belt so he's not going to fight Wilder or anyone else that isn't on his path to glory unless a load of money is thrown at him. Hrgovic could be his next fight and might end up a mandatory. I think AJ should try set up the Fury fight for the end of 2024. Fury will be taken up for most of 2024 fighting Usyk twice but they could make that a blockbuster fight for late 2024.

^^ Yes, it could be possible that AJ vs Parker is going to be push through by either side. I mean AJ doesn't have a dance partner, but they have to make a storyline between AJ and Parker so that they can sell that fight.

It used to be AJ vs Wilder, but we all know that Wilder didn't do his part and Wilder derail all the plans.

If Parker wanted to spoil everything they make him fight AJ, it's just the question of whether the Saudi's wanted that fight as obviously they wanted to stage the biggest fight ever in HW division.

Parker/AJ wouldn't be a bad fight for either of them. Certainly competitive but I think AJ is wanting bigger and better things right now so unless the Saudis do throw massive amounts for it I can't see it happening. Either way 2024 should be a good year for boxing with the two Fury/Usyk fights and Zhang and Ngannou likely returning.

[coin-investor]

The biggest fight at heavyweight will be the winner of Usyk-Fury defending all its belts against AJ. But I doubt people are interested in case Usyk beats Fury. It's less than 2 months already so if AJ is really interested in the belts especially the chance of becoming an undisputed champion, he should just wait. But I guess Eddie knows his ward is still a heavy underdog and there are a lot of low-risk-high-reward fights to exploit.

It is because it will unify all the titles in the heavyweight The last champion who did this was Lennox Lewis the winner of the Fury - Usyk will be considered the greatest heavyweight boxer of the present generation, but I don't rule out a rematch if the fight becomes too close, so much is at stake here all the titles and the zero in their record, the heavyweight division will be in a spotlight for the whole 2024 if Fury decides to stay on whether he wins or losses, its good that we have the Saudi promoters willing to put great matches to satisfy the boxing community when the US based promoters are hesitant to do this massive match up.