STAKE IS SCAM ($12,000)

[KosherMania]

What happened:: I deposit $7.5k on Stake. Go to withdraw. Do not allow withdraw of the $12k I now have. They ask for KYC. I provide all requested documents multiple times and they deny everything I send and do not tell me why. YES I followed all of their requirements.

Scammers Profile Link: https://stake.com/

Reference Link:
Amount Scammed: $12,500
Payment Method: Crypto
Proof of Payment:
PM/Chat Logs:







Additional Notes: I do all they ask for weeks! I provide all documents. The email team tells me random thing that do not make sense. They ignore me. They do not respond. They refuse to answer questions. I have followed all of their instructions many time. I do not know what to do anymore.
I have many more conversation. I just provided that for sample.
 






Stake scam my $12,000. I send 4 selfie, 3 proof address, 2 proof of funds. I keep doing everything they ask. I have no idea what to do. Anyone have idea???

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[robelneo]

Stake scam my $12,000. I send 4 selfie, 3 proof address, 2 proof of funds. I keep doing everything they ask. I have no idea what to do. Anyone have idea???

We cannot give you an idea unless you show us something and follow this format, including everything you have there, screenshots of conversations, deposits, and what they are accusing you of.
You don't come here accusing a casino of scam, without a piece of detailed information about your issue, my guess is multi-accounting, so let's see if it is, by giving us all the information.

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[acroman08]

so they asked you to perform a KYC, what was the reason for the KYC? Have they verified the documents you have sent them? what exactly did they say after you sent what asked for? as robelneo has mentioned, provide detailed information about your issue so we have an idea of what the context is.

follow the scam accusation format robelneo has posted to properly present your scam accusation.

[tabas]

Stake scam my $12,000. I send 4 selfie, 3 proof address, 2 proof of funds. I keep doing everything they ask. I have no idea what to do. Anyone have idea???

We don't have idea because you just have said they are scam plus those process of verifications that you've been through. There's no clear scam on that if they ask you for it because majority of the casinos these days are asking for it when they detect you do something suspicious on your account. Or the funds that you have just deposited seems to be suspicious for them. I don't know how they do that but it seems to be like that. They're obeying the rules of their government to detect money laundering if they're being used for it. You have the idea what to do and if they will ask for more of it, you just have to comply since you can't do that much on it but to follow and obey if your funds are there. Otherwise, it could be the reason robelneo said about multi accounting.

[PX-Z]

Stake scam my $12,000. I send 4 selfie, 3 proof address, 2 proof of funds. I keep doing everything they ask. I have no idea what to do. Anyone have idea???

Tell us why they ask you to do KYC, or when they started asking KYC, or when they keep asking you selfies that it take 4 times already.
Don't ask us any ideas when you didn't even tell what completely happened, don't make us fortune teller by any means.

[KosherMania]

Hello, will post all details when I return to home computer. Should I edit my OP for update? They have accused me of multi accounting (not true), claim my selfie were blurry (not true), deny my proof of address (do not say why), deny my proof of funds (do not say why).

Should I post entire transcript? Is very long. All seem to be auto generated response.

[a581aa]

If you ensure that all your information is clear and correct, you shouldn't typically encounter any issues. However, I was surprised to find that sketa now requires a selfie for verification. Is this an indication of disarray in their rules as they grow more powerful? I've never come across a situation requiring a selfie before, so I find this quite strange. It seems that sketa might believe they are now powerful enough to dictate their own rules

[holydarkness]

Hello, will post all details when I return to home computer. Should I edit my OP for update? They have accused me of multi accounting (not true), claim my selfie were blurry (not true), deny my proof of address (do not say why), deny my proof of funds (do not say why).

Should I post entire transcript? Is very long. All seem to be auto generated response.

Yes, edit the opening post with these updates according to the format given by robelneo, someone will requote your image for visibility as newbie's post can't show image. For the log, please also do it in screenshots so people can be sure it's an original chat log and not an edited script. Please upload them to talkimg, it'll make the quoting for visibility easier. Don't post anything sensitive, though, cover sensitive entries if you can.

[Mahdirakib]

They have accused me of multi accounting (not true), claim my selfie were blurry (not true), deny my proof of address (do not say why), deny my proof of funds (do not say why).

Follow these guidelines for passing the selfie verification properly: Guidelines for taking a selfie with an identity document
Check these articles to complete the proof of address and source of funds verification with the acceptable documents:
• Acceptable documents for proof of address
• Acceptable documents for source of funds

These verifications are a bit complicated. You have to do everything carefully. They identity verification department will reject your documents if they think you have tried to manipulate the documents. So, upload the real documents.

[LEVSKI7]

If you ensure that all your information is clear and correct, you shouldn't typically encounter any issues. However, I was surprised to find that sketa now requires a selfie for verification. Is this an indication of disarray in their rules as they grow more powerful? I've never come across a situation requiring a selfie before, so I find this quite strange. It seems that sketa might believe they are now powerful enough to dictate their own rules

Well, normal. No one controls them and they do what they want. The richer they are, the bolder they become

[Eternad]

Hello, will post all details when I return to home computer. Should I edit my OP for update? They have accused me of multi accounting (not true), claim my selfie were blurry (not true), deny my proof of address (do not say why), deny my proof of funds (do not say why).

Should I post entire transcript? Is very long. All seem to be auto generated response.

This is the typical bullshit of the casino. I don’t understand what’s the point of asking further KYC and to an extent of asking even source of fund and address while they will not use it to verify other account identity.

They are just collecting KYC for the record while the KYC itself is useless. They should just confiscate the bonus and refund the original deposit and not fully extend the waiting for KYC that will not gonna change their decision.

I don’t want to be the bearer of bad news but it’s very hard to win a case against casino when it regards about multi account and bonus abuse because there’s no way to prove that you didn’t own other account while they have digital record of connection such as IP address and same device login.

[SmartGold01]

There is a proper methods to report scam site which robelneo already explained to you and you want people to help you without knowing the reasons and where to fall in to start assisting you. One thing I don't always like what gamblers does is that they always make account without passing kyc probably if they made deposit and started gambling at that point there will be no issues but immediately they have a serious winning to withdraw it the site in question would start requesting for their details at this point passing kyc is very difficult because the site will be very sensitive to detect errors or mistake to limits you from having access to the site. Note before going to signed up any sites always read their terms of service to ease you from stressing yourself. If I am not mistakenly they have ann thread or possibly contact their manager to help you look into this case with your solid evidence.

[KosherMania]

Hello, will post all details when I return to home computer. Should I edit my OP for update? They have accused me of multi accounting (not true), claim my selfie were blurry (not true), deny my proof of address (do not say why), deny my proof of funds (do not say why).

Should I post entire transcript? Is very long. All seem to be auto generated response.

Yes, edit the opening post with these updates according to the format given by robelneo, someone will requote your image for visibility as newbie's post can't show image. For the log, please also do it in screenshots so people can be sure it's an original chat log and not an edited script. Please upload them to talkimg, it'll make the quoting for visibility easier. Don't post anything sensitive, though, cover sensitive entries if you can.

I try to upload to site and it keep saying all of my images are too large. I also have very long conversation. They will not allow withdraw of any money and I do NOT have multiple accounts!

Hello, will post all details when I return to home computer. Should I edit my OP for update? They have accused me of multi accounting (not true), claim my selfie were blurry (not true), deny my proof of address (do not say why), deny my proof of funds (do not say why).

Should I post entire transcript? Is very long. All seem to be auto generated response.

This is the typical bullshit of the casino. I don’t understand what’s the point of asking further KYC and to an extent of asking even source of fund and address while they will not use it to verify other account identity.

They are just collecting KYC for the record while the KYC itself is useless. They should just confiscate the bonus and refund the original deposit and not fully extend the waiting for KYC that will not gonna change their decision.

I don’t want to be the bearer of bad news but it’s very hard to win a case against casino when it regards about multi account and bonus abuse because there’s no way to prove that you didn’t own other account while they have digital record of connection such as IP address and same device login.

I did not receive bonus. I do not have multiple accounts. There is no digital record such as IP or same device login.

[holydarkness]

Proof of Payment:


PM/Chat Logs:

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OP, as it is not stated on the screenshots above, may I know these below:

1. Why can't you provide a utility bill? Taking a glance at their article, they don't specify that the utility bill has to be in your name, does it? And if you somehow can't get your hand into it or they require it to be in your name and it doesn't, there are other documents that can be used instead of utility bill. Has this been tried?



2. Why can't you upload govt. issued ID instead? Understandably not everyone has a passport, but govt. ID are accepted as document to prove your ID.

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I don’t want to be the bearer of bad news but it’s very hard to win a case against casino when it regards about multi account and bonus abuse because there’s no way to prove that you didn’t own other account while they have digital record of connection such as IP address and same device login.

Do you aware that this part of your post is contradictive?

In order to win a case against a casino, any case against any casino, or any case at all, that someone has to be innocent. Otherwise, they're guilty. Simple logic. For the case of multiacc, that someone has to be not owning another account. If the casino has a record of same IP address and same device login, a.k.a. same device fingerprints, that's big likelyhood that the accuser were indeed multiacc-ing and thus guilty, thus shouldn't win the case.

There shouldn't be any case where an accuser with multi-acc won a case when there are heavy incriminating evidences of similarities.

[KosherMania]

Proof of Payment:


PM/Chat Logs:

Quoting for image visibility

OP, as it is not stated on the screenshots above, may I know these below:

1. Why can't you provide a utility bill? Taking a glance at their article, they don't specify that the utility bill has to be in your name, does it? And if you somehow can't get your hand into it or they require it to be in your name and it doesn't, there are other documents that can be used instead of utility bill. Has this been tried?



2. Why can't you upload govt. issued ID instead? Understandably not everyone has a passport, but govt. ID are accepted as document to prove your ID.

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I don’t want to be the bearer of bad news but it’s very hard to win a case against casino when it regards about multi account and bonus abuse because there’s no way to prove that you didn’t own other account while they have digital record of connection such as IP address and same device login.

Do you aware that this part of your post is contradictive?

In order to win a case against a casino, any case against any casino, or any case at all, that someone has to be innocent. Otherwise, they're guilty. Simple logic. For the case of multiacc, that someone has to be not owning another account. If the casino has a record of same IP address and same device login, a.k.a. same device fingerprints, that's big likelyhood that the accuser were indeed multiacc-ing and thus guilty, thus shouldn't win the case.

There shouldn't be any case where an accuser with multi-acc won a case when there are heavy incriminating evidences of similarities.

1. I have provided other documents that follow those rules and they have all been denied. Later I can try to find in the conversation where they have ignore me asking why they were denied. I ask email and live chat and everyone ignore my questions too.

2. I have provided 4 selfies of me holding my ID, with piece of paper of date, my account name. The photos are very clear. Not blurry. Every time, they say are blurry. I also provide picture of my ID too.

[holydarkness]

1. I have provided other documents that follow those rules and they have all been denied. Later I can try to find in the conversation where they have ignore me asking why they were denied. I ask email and live chat and everyone ignore my questions too.

Please do and provide it here if you can find them, they might help us understand the situation better. May I know why can't you provide a utility bill?

2. I have provided 4 selfies of me holding my ID, with piece of paper of date, my account name. The photos are very clear. Not blurry. Every time, they say are blurry. I also provide picture of my ID too.

Just to be sure we cover every ground, how possible is it that the blurry quality is because the image got compressed too much? Did you compress it to meet their maximum upload size? Can you perhaps snap them with different device? Or, something more simple, have you look at the image you uploaded again? Were they still clear?

I'd be very happy if I can invite their representative here and they can answer directly, but unfortunately this is Stake, one of the most out of reach casino, they barely reply to invitations. Nonetheless, let me try to notify Symphonized... if he hasn't been aware of this case already, he's the one in charge of forwarding cases on this forum to Stake's team.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

What happened:: I deposit $7.5k on Stake. Go to withdraw. Do not allow withdraw of the $12k I now have. They ask for KYC. I provide all requested documents multiple times and they deny everything I send and do not tell me why. YES I followed all of their requirements.

We cannot side any of you yet without knowing the reality in what is actually transpiring between you if we are not well evidenced, but if i may ask, have you taken this first to their ANN discussion thread before making a scam accusation on them, then how are you sure that you're making the exact provisions to what had been requested of you, sometimes we keep doing what they are not demanding from us while we are leaving behind what they demanded, we should be responsible for such case, check the informations and documents presented again to be sure you're doing the right thing.

[holydarkness]

We cannot side any of you yet without knowing the reality in what is actually transpiring between you if we are not well evidenced, but if i may ask, have you taken this first to their ANN discussion thread before making a scam accusation on them,

Tell us how is this helpful at this point? Or at the very least, how is this important?

then how are you sure that you're making the exact provisions to what had been requested of you, sometimes we keep doing what they are not demanding from us while we are leaving behind what they demanded, we should be responsible for such case, check the informations and documents presented again to be sure you're doing the right thing.

Read the thread again to be sure you're understanding the right thing, because I don't think you've read them. The very thing being discussed right now is that OP was not able to "making the exact provision to what had been requested of him", namely utility bill, and what we try to find out is why was he not allowed to provide other documents and/or why can't he provide it.

[www.Gambler.Casino]

It’s bad that crypto casinos require so many documents.
But this is the reality now, now it has become the norm

[KosherMania]

It’s bad that crypto casinos require so many documents.
But this is the reality now, now it has become the norm

Sorry to not respond to other post but I check in and see this and laugh. You are missing the point (no offense).

I send them all document they ask for. They refuse to KYC my account and provide me no information for why.

I will try to provide updated screenshots soon. I have so many it take awhile to find.

This is very time consuming process over the course of a month.