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December 01, 2023, 09:55:53 AM
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No. This will only make gamblers feel that they will be helped to meet their living needs while they can still gamble as usual. They may be even more irresponsible in their gambling because they are calm to see that there is crowdfunding that will help them. But if crowdfunding is intended to help problem gamblers cure gambling addiction, for example, maybe crowdfunding can work well. Maybe there are still people who care about others, especially those who experience gambling addiction problems, so from crowdfunding, they can use the funds to help the healing process of people who are addicted to gambling.
I don't think they will play gambling immediately right after they get the money but they will first use those on the important things. And maybe they can even change after this because they are too ashamed of their selves and they are doing this as another way of saying thanks.

Yes, there are always people who are too soft and are willing to help the person who are in need of help. Maybe some of them are also an addict before. They know how hard it is to become one. Still, I don't think crowdfunding is the right word to be used here but it's more like a donation already, since we can't get something in return such as a token, same as what we have here in the crypto world.

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December 01, 2023, 01:47:11 PM
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I don't like holding people responsible for their mistakes, everyone makes mistakes and if I have to fund a gambler it will depend on what happened after he lost all his money to gambling, did he learn some lessons already? What he plans to do from here on, everyone has their issues and difficulties, we are all trying to make a way and without mistakes it will be difficult to grow.

If he failed to learn from is irresponsible gambling then I can say no to him, most gamblers are irresponsible at first, and this is because of the problem that affected their lives, they are finding means to make a new change in their life so I don't blame anyone for trying.

Not learning from your mistake is the biggest issue here, because you will never grow, I don't like gambling too much, it's not because of anything else but I am only trying to avoid getting addicted to it, I am someone who get attached to something I do everytime, I am just trying to protect myself in a good way.
Whether a gambler will learn from their mistake and won't repeat it next time depends if they are addicted to gambling or not. There are two types of people who make such mistakes. The first type is addicted gamblers who gets money in their hand and can't control the urge and gamble it away, and the second category is of the gamblers who are not generally addicted gamblers but they spend the money on gambling while either trying to gain more money since they need it or just because they got greedy.

If the gambler who lost everything in gambling and is asking for monetary assistance is an addicted gambler, I wouldn't want to do a crowdfunding event for them, but if the person isn't addicted but did it because they needed more money and they thought they can achieve that through gambling, I might think about it in case he is struck by an emergency.
Sometimes even non-addicts slip into repetitious activity owing to stress or a windfall. Psychological triggers in gambling are complicated and unpredictable. Gambling is a game of risk and reward with an element of unpredictability, as we all know. Can't someone who gambles out of necessity or greed be on the verge of addiction, possibly unknowingly? When considering crowdfunding, shouldn't we also consider their financial situation? If someone gambled out of desperation, aren't we pointing at a cultural or systemic issue? They may have been financially illiterate or felt gambling was the only option. Instead of categorizing individuals by gambling frequency, shouldn't we offer counseling, education, and support? Isn't it about understanding gambling's fundamental human behavior?

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December 01, 2023, 02:34:56 PM
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I don't think they will play gambling immediately right after they get the money but they will first use those on the important things. And maybe they can even change after this because they are too ashamed of their selves and they are doing this as another way of saying thanks.

Yes, there are always people who are too soft and are willing to help the person who are in need of help. Maybe some of them are also an addict before. They know how hard it is to become one. Still, I don't think crowdfunding is the right word to be used here but it's more like a donation already, since we can't get something in return such as a token, same as what we have here in the crypto world.

I’m curious. Why does donation seem right and not crowdfunding to you, when they mean more or less the same thing. Crowdfunding is self explanatory. Asking/begging money from a bunch of people you don’t know and will probably never meet over the internet. And in this scenario, crowdfunding seems to be the right word.

More likely than not, an irresponsible gambler having burnt through whatever money and savings he had on gambling, would equally after being helped out by strangers and friends, would begin to repeat the process that got him broke all over again.
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December 01, 2023, 05:28:37 PM
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No. This will only make gamblers feel that they will be helped to meet their living needs while they can still gamble as usual. They may be even more irresponsible in their gambling because they are calm to see that there is crowdfunding that will help them. But if crowdfunding is intended to help problem gamblers cure gambling addiction, for example, maybe crowdfunding can work well. Maybe there are still people who care about others, especially those who experience gambling addiction problems, so from crowdfunding, they can use the funds to help the healing process of people who are addicted to gambling.
I don't think they will play gambling immediately right after they get the money but they will first use those on the important things. And maybe they can even change after this because they are too ashamed of their selves and they are doing this as another way of saying thanks.

Yes, there are always people who are too soft and are willing to help the person who are in need of help. Maybe some of them are also an addict before. They know how hard it is to become one. Still, I don't think crowdfunding is the right word to be used here but it's more like a donation already, since we can't get something in return such as a token, same as what we have here in the crypto world.
Gambling may be fun and skill-building, despite its misperception. It requires strategy, patience, and occasionally luck, not just money. This acknowledgement is key to understanding why not all people spend recklessly after receiving wealth. Even gamblers may prioritize important expenses, showing responsibility.

The difference between "contribution" and "crowdfunding" is complicated. Donations dont usually earn crypto tokens. However, the reward may be intangible, like helping someone change their life. Isnt that possibly more precious than any token? Understanding the repercussions of our actions on individuals and society is crucial.

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December 02, 2023, 07:16:41 AM
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I don't think they will play gambling immediately right after they get the money but they will first use those on the important things. And maybe they can even change after this because they are too ashamed of their selves and they are doing this as another way of saying thanks.

Yes, there are always people who are too soft and are willing to help the person who are in need of help. Maybe some of them are also an addict before. They know how hard it is to become one. Still, I don't think crowdfunding is the right word to be used here but it's more like a donation already, since we can't get something in return such as a token, same as what we have here in the crypto world.
Yes, maybe they won't gamble immediately, but that depends on each person because for those who often gamble, getting money from other people makes them think they can gamble first to get more money and then use it for important things. But for those who don't gamble too often, they might think twice about gambling and there is a possibility that they will even use the money to open a business so that they don't depend too much on gambling to make money. If that's what they do, they can really use their money for their own benefit and really think about their family's needs rather than just gambling.

Yes, you could say it's like a donation because there are people who give their money to other people. Maybe it's for gambling, but if they can use the money for other, more important things, that would be even better. They can try to create a source of income outside of gambling so that they can make money from what they make.

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December 02, 2023, 10:53:35 AM
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Actually no amount of funds is worth throwing away like willingly giving out to gambling as a course of lost.
Nomatter how minimal a fund maybe, it is to have more values than for staking on gambling even though gambling is to proffering multiplications of stakes.

This is just why it is reasonable to being responsible in gambling.
Hence I wouldn't still ignore to assist in crowdfunding to such one of an irresponsible gambler who has seized to utilize his funds instead staking and loosing them to gambling.
I am to believe that I am or had been into the system of gambling so I should be good enough to understand such situations.
Of course I will participate to assist such a person as long as I am financially stabled enough to help but on a contrary, if the gambler is a usually finding to betting his funds meant to be utilized on some important amenities, I would withdraw my give away heart towards him.



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December 04, 2023, 12:47:41 AM
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I don't think they will play gambling immediately right after they get the money but they will first use those on the important things. And maybe they can even change after this because they are too ashamed of their selves and they are doing this as another way of saying thanks.

Yes, there are always people who are too soft and are willing to help the person who are in need of help. Maybe some of them are also an addict before. They know how hard it is to become one. Still, I don't think crowdfunding is the right word to be used here but it's more like a donation already, since we can't get something in return such as a token, same as what we have here in the crypto world.

I’m curious. Why does donation seem right and not crowdfunding to you, when they mean more or less the same thing. Crowdfunding is self explanatory. Asking/begging money from a bunch of people you don’t know and will probably never meet over the internet. And in this scenario, crowdfunding seems to be the right word.

More likely than not, an irresponsible gambler having burnt through whatever money and savings he had on gambling, would equally after being helped out by strangers and friends, would begin to repeat the process that got him broke all over again.
Once that process starts and it gets encouraged by getting money to sustain their addiction why would it stop? When a person gets to the point of begging their loved ones and even strangers for money, we can safely say they will not understand that what they are doing is wrong, until they hit rock bottom and no one is willing to lend them any money anymore.

And even then there are some gamblers that are so far gone that no matter what they experiment, they will never overcome their gambling issues.
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