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November 21, 2023, 09:26:31 PM
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Crowdfunding an irresponsible gambler that lost his money meant for a project to gambling is another form of encouraging his irresponsibility. If a gambler can use money that he was to use for important project as marriage, child school fees, or a house rent for gambling he's not worth giving any form of financial assistance what he urgently need us a rehab because that's an addiction impulse he is breeding. For every action in life there's always a consequence attached and people should be allowed to face the consequences of their action so that by the experience they can learn to take a leave from irresponsible attitudes towards gambling.
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November 21, 2023, 09:26:42 PM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Your original question was pretty ridiculous and now you've added in another layer of stupidity? People who throw away their own money and end up crippled might deserve a shred of sympathy, however they need to take it as a learning experience that once they rebuild, never to go that deep down the hole again. However people who steal other peoples money will and should find themselves serving a jail sentence, because it is simple theft and it doesn't matter the reason. Would you "crowdsource" charitable funds for a thief? No, you would not, so why do you think throwing the word gambler into the mix would make it any better. It's not a thief that was trying to save a starving puppy, it was a selfish and greedy thief trying to enrich themselves.

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November 21, 2023, 10:21:56 PM
Last edit: November 21, 2023, 11:50:38 PM by Weawant
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I wouldn't participate in such crowd funding but if it's possible bi reach out to his kids and help them get their fees paid without the interference of their father I would, not because I want to help the man but for the sake of the kids to have a better future and not suffer for their fathers foolishness.

Talking about gambling responsibly it doesn't only end at the casino with you not placing reckless huge amounts but it begins with the decisions you make, how you go about funding your gambling wallet and how well you control yourself when it has to do with the funds you invest in gambling. Using funds that were kept aside for projects and other responsibilities to gamble is highly irresponsible and shouldn't be encouraged.

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November 21, 2023, 10:23:10 PM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
Your take on the content you created is very facinating. If I even have the slightest sympathy for a gambler, it would be someone who is very close, who wins more often then they loose and who is very lavish with the winnings they have had so far of which I really appreciate.
Else, crowdfunding a gambler on a quest of probabilities is not a good investment I would love to dabble in, even if the cash in my pockets are throwing away.

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November 21, 2023, 10:32:39 PM
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 And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
Definitely not. And honestly this is the first time I read something about crowdfunding someone to gamble, especially someone irresponsible. I never heard anything about that before!
To anyone who are thinking of doing that, have a second thought and reflect if it is really worth doing. Remember thag you could use those money to fund other charities for our poor,  our environment, etc.

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November 21, 2023, 10:49:01 PM
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Honestly it's difficult to judge without having to know the real reason why they actually gambled that money away... what if they were short and have tried everything they can think of to try to make the extra cash to pay for a medical operation, or school fees etc...

We need to accept that not everyone gambles for the purpose of fun, most people do this for the money!! And if gambler lost their money and went for the crowdfund option to get it back.. honestly it's a probable chance that I would support such a user , but with a back story I can support it and without it it's not possible.

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November 21, 2023, 10:56:27 PM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
If he gambled irresponsibly, then he does not need crowdfunidng rather he needs to visit a psychologist for help on how to deal with his gambling addiction. Giving money to him is just telling him to continue from where he stopped.

So I don't see the need for crowdfunding such fellow and I will never be a part of it.
Thank you mate, it's as simple as you have explained it because no gambler that posses that kind of attributes should be let to continue in gambling, let alone be crowd funded. Every irresponsible gambler needs help although gambling addicts dont normally take advice from person and only them can be of help to their own crazy habits because if their is no willingness to stop it then the gambler doesn't need a thing like what crowdfunding because it's a total waist of funds.
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November 21, 2023, 11:10:22 PM
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when a person takes money that was intended to pay bills and that person takes that money to play in a casino and then loses all the money, then we are dealing with a person who is addicted to gambling and in this case you cannot give money to the gambling addict , if he says he needs money to pay bills, then don't give him money, just pay his bills directly, that is, tell him to go with you to pay his bills and then take him to a psychologist for urgent treatment, As long as the psychologist does not cure the patient, then they should not give him money, because this will only worsen his mental health condition. people often ignore certain signs

I'm talking about signs like taking money that would be used to pay bills and taking it to play or even taking it out to drink beer, then people think that this is normal, they think that these are things that after some time the person heals on their own, when in reality we are faced with a disease, we are faced with addiction, and to cure the addiction it is necessary to consult the doctor and comply with all the treatment he recommends, the person should not be a person with too much pride and forget that being cured also helps with what the person can live in society, it helps to get back into employment

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November 21, 2023, 11:14:32 PM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
Nah. My man probably spent said money he was supposed to use for said project or whatever into gambling and is now appealing pity to the internet so that he can recoup it back. Personally, that's my opinion. As for what others think? I don't really give a damn. Spending money in gambling that is supposed to be for something else that is important is something I can't really empathize with. After all, said money was most likely not even from them, it probably came about with the help of a few others so really, it's not just him affected, it was others as well. And even if it was him only, then again, I still don't see any reason to help someone making dumb decisions over the internet.


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November 21, 2023, 11:20:41 PM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

No, crowdfunding for anyone who exhibits risky behavior beyond a certain threshold is a very bad idea.

When you gather crowd investments for someone else, you are vouching for them with your name. If they do something bad, such as misuse the gathered funds, then you will be the one who is blamed by a literal crowd of people. Why would you subject yourself to that kind of risk if you believe the person behind the project to be untrustworthy?

But then again it depends on the person and how risky you find them to be. I would not paint all gamblers as untrustworthy people.

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November 21, 2023, 11:23:20 PM
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No, definitely not. It's common sense. Why would you give money to someone that you know he will lose, especially if you know that he is an irresponsible gambler? Only those fortunate may, but it's still not right to tolerate his action and irresponsibility. If someone does that, then he will keep on doing what is wrong, and in fact, it will make him more irresponsible as he knows that someone could fund his gambling out of empathy. I will never ever have empathy for someone who is irresponsible with the money that he doesn't own. Like may others reacted, of course I'm not crazy to give out my own money, thinking that it will eventually lose, and gambling itself is risky. Added to irresponsible gamblers, there's no way I will give money to a person like that, and I'm sure no one else will also participate in that, so that could crowdfund funding.

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November 21, 2023, 11:23:47 PM
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Honestly it's difficult to judge without having to know the real reason why they actually gambled that money away... what if they were short and have tried everything they can think of to try to make the extra cash to pay for a medical operation, or school fees etc...

We need to accept that not everyone gambles for the purpose of fun, most people do this for the money!! And if gambler lost their money and went for the crowdfund option to get it back.. honestly it's a probable chance that I would support such a user , but with a back story I can support it and without it it's not possible.

but the money that he will get from crowdfunding should not be use again in gambling. why not use it directly to the expenses he need to pay? it may not be sufficient but at least lessen some burden. because if you will bet it again to your games, high probability that you will lose it all again. maybe, ill support the crowdfunding process if it won't go back to his gambling. but if you will fund his gambling, then i guess no.

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November 21, 2023, 11:28:24 PM
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Not empathy, but based on his skill.
I have been trying to get a slot of funding for my friend who is good at poker, he does this not because he is broke but because he wants to share the wins and the losses. I talked to him personally about when I could get a slot and he said he would try to get me a reservation because there are already patrons who are always investing in his skill.
100 could become 300 or it will depend on how much the pot will be and it's a tournament so it might take a whole day before the investors will get the results.
I will not fund just anyone. For me, I'd rather pick the gamblers who are my real friends and invest with them especially those who have proof that they can really win games like poker tournaments.
It's easy to see those who are gambling irresponsibly. They are broke most of the time and trusting them with your money might not be a wise idea not because they will try to steal it but because they might not be in the right condition to win their preferred games with their stressed minds.

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November 21, 2023, 11:31:40 PM
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Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing.

No I would not invest in a person that has the habit of embezzling fund and gamble it irresponsibly.  In the given case, it is stated that they had done it many times before, so it won't be surprising if they embezzle the fund for crowdfunding and gamble it irresponsibly.

And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

I would not say a single word, it is their decision and these people use their own money so I have no right whatsoever to comment on their decision.
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

  Nowadays, it's hard for people to believe what you say. If it's a project that they start with crowdfunding, a lot of people don't trust and believe what you're saying. In short, it's not realistic for it to happen.

  Then why did you think of such a situation? Is there anyone who wants to help gamblers, and in order to do this, you will go through crowdfunding? Is that what you mean, so you went through asking questions here in the forum to see how the community members will respond here?

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I also have to say no when it comes to crowdfunding a fellow gambler who made a mistake while gambling and the money he receives through crowdfunding might encourage him to do it again since it's not his hard-earned money. If the money is handled by someone else so he can't gamble it away, then maybe others would also change their mind. Then again, I agree with the other posts above because helping someone financially is only a temporary fix to his problem when the real problem is the person's bad decision-making.

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Hell no… Why would you crowdfund for an irresponsible gambler? Thats like giving a crackhead a bunch of crack and then feeling good about yourself because this time they’re not going to smoke it all and buy more, they’re going to use it to ween themselves off crack. This is a sub-80 IQ line of thinking you’d only hear from a Biden voter.

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November 22, 2023, 01:02:17 AM
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I don't mind sharing my gambling wins. I mean, isn't that a very natural reaction after having a nice gambling run? I've always been doing that.

However, I don't think it's worth contributing to a crowdfund of somebody who badly needs money because he/she gambled what was supposed to be spent for important expenses. To those who are willing to donate, I don't have a problem. It's their money. They're free to do whatever they want with their money. But, for me, I think that isn't a good practice so I wouldn't do that.

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November 22, 2023, 01:11:38 AM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
Isn't it contradictory though? I mean we all know how gambling is, it can really ruined someone's life specially if they become addicted and can't control themselves and uses the money or funds that is allotted for other important things as you have describe.

Not that I don't want to help someone, but if you really wanted to help it should not be in this case. And this could be another excuse for gamblers to continue with what they are doing. Because at the back of their minds, they might think that they can escape with it is they will or someone in their behalf, will do crowdfund for the money that they have irresponsibly lost to gambling.

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November 22, 2023, 01:29:52 AM
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maybe no.
gambling is not a place to raise funds like investment or other types of profit, whereas gambling is just a place to have fun trying your luck and if we fund other gamblers that is something that is not worth it for me because we gamble to please ourselves and if we fund other gamblers that is just like giving pleasure to other people and if we fund other gamblers or other communities just for the purpose of making a profit it is already breaking the rules of gamblers enjoyment.

but there are some people who give funds to the gambling community but to games that do not rely on luck but to the community of gamblers who play only poker games that rely more on skill than luck. so its worth giving a little money to get profits from professional poker gamblers.

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