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November 25, 2023, 09:17:10 AM |
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Let's be honest - this is bad news. If this does happen to you – I assure you that no one here is happy about this other than the hacker. I don't know what caused your wallet to be hacked and I'm not sure how it happened although I have gone through each of your replies to gather some information.
Also - everyone here hopes you'll get your hacked bitcoins back - but that's very unlikely because only hackers can do that. Don't give up and rise up with whatever means you have now - we only learn from your mistakes. The only thing I regret about you is - you share a PC with other people where there are 11 btc stored in your online wallet. 11 btc is right now equivalent to $416,350 [$37,850 per btc] - of course this is a big amount to lose.
It is regrettable why the OP shared a PC with someone else even though it was his wife, while dangerous conditions never knew to come even though he had done a deeper inspection, then what is regrettable is that he did not buy hardware that is still priced at $100 even some are below that so if he keeps it there it will certainly be safer in a cold wallet. After checking the txid provided by the OP there is still no movement in the hacker's wallet to other wallets, maybe the hacker kept it there first, but the funds will never return if it is in the hands of the hacker. $416,350 is a huge amount, we will not be able to collect more than that (11BTC). Stay strong and stay patient even though I know it will hurt even more, but it's true what others say make it a lesson including for myself so that I don't give access to my PC to anyone.
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November 25, 2023, 09:32:14 AM |
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This post remember me why i have hardware wallet. Always sad to read things like this
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My PC is running back up right now. I'll post the signed message after it finishes and I figure out how to do it. If you feel you need to report this post, by all means, do what you feel need to do
If you don't know how to sign messages maybe this can help you. How to sign a message?!It's regrettable to lose 11 BTC that's a huge amount we thought, but why not choose a cold wallet as suggested by others as it's not worth such a huge asset but keeping it in a hot wallet which might be vulnerable to hacker attacks when you experience its negligence. It's just a lesson because it's impossible to get coins back, so in the future, be more careful. Hope you don't get depressed. Sorry to say but even if this person learn how to sign a message is the BTC coming back? Are you guys going to get his BTC back for him? Why are you forcing him to sign a message? So that you can believe that he is indeed the rightful owner? What is next after? Let us send his BTC back to him since he is the rightful owner? OP, I am glad you learned your lesson, you don't have to keep longing this thread, you shared your pain and people don't still believe, leave the post and move on, new readers will learn something from it or also join the group of people that don't believe. My advice for you now is to get a hardware wallet, it's not even up to $300 to get a solid one, Trezor, Onekey, Keystone, Tangem, D'cent, and so on, these wallets are badass, good for keeping large amount of crypto, now they are doing discount, black Friday's everywhere, act now to avoid future losses, take heart and be strong.
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November 25, 2023, 11:49:47 AM |
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Sorry to say but even if this person learn how to sign a message is the BTC coming back? Are you guys going to get his BTC back for him? Why are you forcing him to sign a message? So that you can believe that he is indeed the rightful owner? What is next after? Let us send his BTC back to him since he is the rightful owner?
OP, I am glad you learned your lesson, you don't have to keep longing this thread, you shared your pain and people don't still believe, leave the post and move on, new readers will learn something from it or also join the group of people that don't believe.
My advice for you now is to get a hardware wallet, it's not even up to $300 to get a solid one, Trezor, Onekey, Keystone, Tangem, D'cent, and so on, these wallets are badass, good for keeping large amount of crypto, now they are doing discount, black Friday's everywhere, act now to avoid future losses, take heart and be strong.
Because it's quite often for newer members to come up with such stories to attract attention and merit as well, in a desperate attempt to rank up. I don't know what to believe. I've read a whole lot of stories here, and a large number of them were fiction. I can't accept that someone who supposedly had 11 BTC, worth approximately half a million dollars, was that of a novice who did not have a hardware wallet, which barely costs $70, and kept his wallet on a shared Windows computer, not even a separate computer or OS for this purpose. I'm sorry, but it doesn't sound plausible.
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November 25, 2023, 12:05:28 PM |
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mods, close the topic, OP is troll no proofs, no signed messages
Why do you think mods are reading this? Even if they read, first someone should make a report so that something might happen - and if you think the topic should be closed, why don't you click on the "report to moderator" button in the OP? BTC gigantic fees are ripping off. And I’m generally silent about transactions speed. BTC is becoming not for the majority, but only for the very rich whales
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F11%2F25%2FNUPw5.png&t=665&c=hT6VqVb2Vd5J8w) In what world $1 or $2 are gigantic fees? Those who cannot afford to support Bitcoin with such a small fee should definitely think about it and maybe find an altcoin that does not have any fees - there is no need to talk about the security of such a blockchain, right?
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November 25, 2023, 12:50:21 PM |
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mods, close the topic, OP is troll no proofs, no signed messages
Why do you think mods are reading this? Even if they read, first someone should make a report so that something might happen - and if you think the topic should be closed, why don't you click on the "report to moderator" button in the OP? okay, how to send a report correctly? what should I write in the report? P.S: Still no proofs, no signed messages from OP. I'm amazed at this, this ex-holder of such wealth does not know how to sign a message with Bitcoin
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November 25, 2023, 01:02:43 PM |
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I'm sorry to hear about your loss, but I would say that you shouldn't have kept such a large amount in a personal device that you and maybe others have access to. If I had 11 Bitcoins, which is more than $400k based on the current price of Bitcoin, I would spend some money and buy a hardware wallet and keep them in that instead just to make sure that my Bitcoins are more safe and secure from things like malware or keyloggers and any other stuff that can cause me the loss of my assets through the internet.
Though it might not be possible for you to get your money back now when it's gone, you should try and find out how it happened, and who knows, maybe someone around you has done it, someone whom you told about your Bitcoins and that they are stored in your personal computer and they got access to it somehow. The world is different these days, you can't trust anyone when it comes to finances.
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November 25, 2023, 01:56:10 PM |
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Im so sorry for you bro. Like 11 btc can buy house and lot, can start business, and buy cars all at once. If I have 11 Bitcoin and I got hacked, I don't know what will happen to me, definitely lost myself. It is really hard to retrieve this even you reported it. You know how they play with the system, and I know you know that even if you report this, there's nothing you can do anymore.
Hoping for your fast recovery brother. Always remember that every bad things, there's always a better things to come.
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November 25, 2023, 02:30:03 PM |
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11 BTC? Damn. That's a lot of money for people like me and I must say that you are handling this really, really well since losing that amount would most probably shake me to the core.
If you weren't using that amount actively for various purposes, I must say that it was pretty dumb of you to leave it in an online wallet as some of the posters above mentioned. All the best trying to recover your stash.
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okay, how to send a report correctly? what should I write in the report?
It would be logical to write what you think the topic should be locked for - and you already wrote that in your post "OP is troll, no proofs, no signed messages". Although keep in mind that mods don't have to share your opinion and won't do anything. P.S: Still no proofs, no signed messages from OP. I'm amazed at this, this ex-holder of such wealth does not know how to sign a message with Bitcoin
The fact that someone allegedly had 11 BTC does not mean that this person must know how to sign a message or that he has any broader knowledge about Bitcoin. I have personally seen a lot of people who bought BTC a long time ago and then found themselves in a situation where they did not know even the most basic things, and these were not trolls, but people who really had the BTC they were talking about. Possession of something and knowledge about it do not have to be related to each other.
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November 25, 2023, 03:28:59 PM |
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The fact that someone allegedly had 11 BTC does not mean that this person must know how to sign a message or that he has any broader knowledge about Bitcoin. I have personally seen a lot of people who bought BTC a long time ago and then found themselves in a situation where they did not know even the most basic things, and these were not trolls, but people who really had the BTC they were talking about. Possession of something and knowledge about it do not have to be related to each other.
You are absolutely right in this statement. But that doesn't mean my assumption is wrong. And if you are finished, then I hope you don’t mind me expressing my vision of the situation in more detail?: I believe that OP did not lose any bitcoins. I propose OP simply made up this sad story so that out of pity or solidarity they would pour him merits. He didn't succeed. I’m glad that the forum’s audience is getting smarter every year and is less and less susceptible to such provocationsI also do not exclude other theories, the proposal of Pmalek also makes sense: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5475428.msg63217689#msg63217689We have that maniac (fxsurfer, antikvark, whatever the name is) who returns every couple of months and creates a few threads bashing bitcoin, everyone argues with him, and then he disappears, only to come back again some day.
It would be logical to write what you think the topic should be locked for - and you already wrote that in your post "OP is troll, no proofs, no signed messages". Although keep in mind that mods don't have to share your opinion and won't do anything.
Is such a free interpretation suitable for a report? I thought the report should be short. It turns out there is no single standard form for reports? Please do not evade away from newbie answers and provide at least a sample of a correct report
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November 25, 2023, 03:30:56 PM |
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11 BTC? Damn. That's a lot of money for people like me and I must say that you are handling this really, really well since losing that amount would most probably shake me to the core.
If you weren't using that amount actively for various purposes, I must say that it was pretty dumb of you to leave it in an online wallet as some of the posters above mentioned. All the best trying to recover your stash.
That Bitcoin was hacked, it's not like he lost access to it, so I don't think there's a chance of him getting it back . But I seriously doubt that anyone who owns such a large amount of bitcoin would store it so carelessly. Bitcoin has great value these days and people who own bitcoin know about it. So it would be unbelievable if someone said they stored those bitcoins on a computer that was constantly online and didn't take any precautions . OP provided the wallet address but I don't believe it until he signs the message to prove he really owns it like some people are asking.
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Talked to my wife. She tried to install a voice changer software yesterday from a link on twitter and it didn't install. This is a windows 11 PC. I see something new called WingFtpServer as a startup program. That has to be it. C'est la vie I think this is what initiated since your wife doesn't have computer knowledge about the do'"S and dont'S of crypto but the first mistake started from you for not using a hardware wallet or airgap computer to hold the Bitcoin. With that being said, there is no connection between the server software and the voice changer your wife downloaded.
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The fact that someone allegedly had 11 BTC does not mean that this person must know how to sign a message or that he has any broader knowledge about Bitcoin. I have personally seen a lot of people who bought BTC a long time ago and then found themselves in a situation where they did not know even the most basic things, and these were not trolls, but people who really had the BTC they were talking about. Possession of something and knowledge about it do not have to be related to each other.
You are absolutely right in this statement. But that doesn't mean my assumption is wrong. And if you are finished, then I hope you don’t mind me expressing my vision of the situation in more detail?: I believe that OP did not lose any bitcoins. I propose OP simply made up this sad story so that out of pity or solidarity they would pour him merits. He didn't succeed. I’m glad that the forum’s audience is getting smarter every year and is less and less susceptible to such provocationsI also do not exclude other theories, the proposal of Pmalek also makes sense: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5475428.msg63217689#msg63217689We have that maniac (fxsurfer, antikvark, whatever the name is) who returns every couple of months and creates a few threads bashing bitcoin, everyone argues with him, and then he disappears, only to come back again some day.
It would be logical to write what you think the topic should be locked for - and you already wrote that in your post "OP is troll, no proofs, no signed messages". Although keep in mind that mods don't have to share your opinion and won't do anything.
Is such a free interpretation suitable for a report? I thought the report should be short. It turns out there is no single standard form for reports? Please do not evade away from newbie answers and provide at least a sample of a correct report I wonder signing a message is no more important then placing a fractional coin in the address then withdrawing it. it is more costly to more in 0.0001 and then pull out 0.0001 although he could set it to 1 sat per byte and would lock it up at no cost to with draw it. But I am thinking how did the money get pulled from a core wallet as described by him I am not so sure what was done to pull it. He claims it was not launched so I am not sure how it could be taken if it is not launched. other then the hacker had full control of the pc via remote like anydesk.
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November 26, 2023, 01:26:20 AM |
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Somebody deleting my truth about BTC
None of your comments are useful in helping the OP recover his BTC. Instead, you are completely off-topic and derailing the thread to promote an altcoin. You are free to create your own thread in the section of the forum designated specifically for altcoins.
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November 26, 2023, 01:45:40 AM |
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Yesterday I lost 11 BTC from my Bitcoin Core 25.0 wallet. The wallet wasn't open at the time. I don't know how it happened. Lots of emotions right now.
edit to add:
Definitely not my wife. We live in a rural setting. She doesn't have the computer knowledge to even launch the wallet. This was an external hack.
I first noticed when I logged into Koinly and saw my BTC balance was reduced. I then launched Bitcoin Core and it was about a week behind. Showed my 11btc as it updated, then hit the date of the hack and it went to zero. Wallet is encrypted and appears to work fine. PC is turned off now and hard drives will be wiped. This definitely sucks, but not the end of the world. Opportunity for others to learn or be reminded from my mistakes.
Also, the coins have not moved from hacker address. After further investigation this looks to have been caused by a botnet.
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All of my addresses in Bitcoin Core are segwit. I can't seem to find a way to create a signed message with segwit and Bitcoin Core. If you don't believe my post that's fine. I'm not looking to gain anything, just want to tell my story so others don't make the mistakes I did.
TX IDs of the four transactions that drained my wallet:
e4fda9c61c782ad0035ee9b5c551e7e48a67c294499ae7cdc6702c7d3b06b19e
1ec109e71874990c33afd66eff4050776a1ba796d92b97cea8dc48b948fed6c8
95e9e7a88536668bbfaaf12b417ec3ec74d851d018726511ec797061d495c97a
ed8e7988e4c000b05c1814c3aaeb5170a452ee54c2dd33cc1e533fbc885ec25d
so sorry to hear about your loss man, it is indeed a very sad experience to loose your Bitcoin and that much of it must have cost you a fortune to acquire. I can not tell how exactly this happened as I am not that tech inclined when it comes to analysing how a wallet got compromised uisng codes but I know that offline and hardware wallets have now become the safe heaven for holders. Just buy your coins and keep them safe in a hardware wallet and make sure to keep it safe. Holding coins online, sometimes, might not be entirely safe, especially if you consider holding for a long time
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Yesterday I lost 11 BTC from my Bitcoin Core 25.0 wallet. The wallet wasn't open at the time. I don't know how it happened. Lots of emotions right now.
I am feeling very sad for you. I always say that it is very bad idea to store your btc in PC because PC has very weak security against malware. I believe that your PC also targeted by malicious activity where Hackers get access to your phrase. This could be only reason of your loss after reading your full story. Why I am saying PC is not safe? First of all we Install Window, or Linux from shop(most of time we purchase PC with built in Window). Shop member generally using crack windows which have built in drivers and other needful software. These windows download from Unofficial sites and the chances of malware is so high. Second whenever we install any software especially when crack or any app from unofficial app , These apps are also full if malware. sometimes app automatically installed with popup when we browsing when we have strong security against malware. Sad to say that No one can return your BTC even Satoshi but I am sharing strategy for future which will prevent you from further loss ▪️ Download official window from office site and make bootable usb by own. ▪️Don't use old this hacked wallet more and also If you used any other btc or altcoins wallet kindly send funds to new wallet (Create with mobile) ▪️Don't install unofficial software. It will be better that you use two PC. One should be fully spare just for crypto transaction
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November 26, 2023, 03:11:14 AM Last edit: November 26, 2023, 03:50:44 AM by mcdouglasx |
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Yesterday I lost 11 BTC from my Bitcoin Core 25.0 wallet. The wallet wasn't open at the time. I don't know how it happened. Lots of emotions right now.
I recently spoke in a post about the internet and bitcoin that are not compatible in terms of key storage, but in good time, you are alive. Look at the contrast, you wrote in the title "I lost 11 btc", you should be grateful that you didn't say "I lost everything". I lost my mother recently, I spent the little I had on her, but I think that's how life is, life teaches us good and bad things. you just have to keep moving forward. From a technical point of view, I don't understand why a hacker empties your transactions in fractions, usually it is a single movement to prevent you from moving the funds. It does not agree with the usual procedure, which could indicate that the person who did it is someone with little knowledge, or someone close to you who wanted to take some and then greed motivated him to take it all because the transactions are hours apart. Edit: I'll give you the benefit of the doubt to not think this is trolling.
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November 26, 2023, 06:56:58 AM |
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Yesterday I lost 11 BTC from my Bitcoin Core 25.0 wallet. The wallet wasn't open at the time. I don't know how it happened. Lots of emotions right now.
I am sorry to hear that brother. I lost $10,000 back in March 2021, nowhere near 11 BTC, and it was very painful. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) It's not like I was a wealthy person. Just a regular working programmer. I have learnt a lot since then, and the best I can do is say goodbye to it and keep on and stay optimistic. If you still have your home, your employment, or retirement or whatever you have, your wife, etc, then it's a good idea to focus on what you have, it helped me to move forward and lessened the shock of it. Soon it will just be a bad memory and nothing more.
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November 26, 2023, 09:51:05 AM |
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Sorry to say but even if this person learn how to sign a message is the BTC coming back? Are you guys going to get his BTC back for him? Why are you forcing him to sign a message? So that you can believe that he is indeed the rightful owner? What is next after? Let us send his BTC back to him since he is the rightful owner?
OP, I am glad you learned your lesson, you don't have to keep longing this thread, you shared your pain and people don't still believe, leave the post and move on, new readers will learn something from it or also join the group of people that don't believe.
My advice for you now is to get a hardware wallet, it's not even up to $300 to get a solid one, Trezor, Onekey, Keystone, Tangem, D'cent, and so on, these wallets are badass, good for keeping large amount of crypto, now they are doing discount, black Friday's everywhere, act now to avoid future losses, take heart and be strong.
Because it's quite often for newer members to come up with such stories to attract attention and merit as well, in a desperate attempt to rank up. I don't know what to believe. I've read a whole lot of stories here, and a large number of them were fiction. I can't accept that someone who supposedly had 11 BTC, worth approximately half a million dollars, was that of a novice who did not have a hardware wallet, which barely costs $70, and kept his wallet on a shared Windows computer, not even a separate computer or OS for this purpose. I'm sorry, but it doesn't sound plausible. I understand why you are trying to say, but can you show me a similar thread that received merit because they lost their Bitcoin? This isn't a topic that looks like a merit fishing stuff, maybe I am wrong but sorry to say I won't dare merit this post at all, 11BTC is gone, what will merit do at this point? I feel sorry for whoever this person is but what does this have to do with merits? It solves nothing to this problem. They must have done something wrong using the crypto wallet without them knowing, it can happen to anybody but there is no way this will fetch him merits, if he truly want merit he would have talk about ways to avoid the mistakes, things beginners need to do to avoid getting their Bitcoin wallet compromised? There is no single tutorial or even advice, he merely shared his painful experience, with the way you think, imagine if this is real? Have you even consider to think it this way?
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