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December 19, 2023, 05:32:52 PM
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I have observed that the rich, I mean those who are financially comfortable, win more in gambling than the poor. By poor, I mean those who do not have enough to meet all their needs. I don't know the reason for this. Could it be that the rich understand financial management more? Or could it be that the rich are less desperate to win which make them make better gambling decision? I really want to know the reason for this pattern I have observed.
An interesting observation, but you need to clarify how your observations took place. Did the people you are talking about have the same conditions? What type of gambling was there, at what time, on what day and many other variables.
I think the point is that a rich person has a more free attitude towards money and is not afraid of losing it, therefore he makes decisions more freely, while a poor person is more pressured by responsibility
It's true and I agree with it, but I don't think this means that the rich win more in gambling than the poor, it simply means that the rich don't care much about their losses and only focus on their gambling and the big wins they get, while the poor has more concerns about their losses because as you said, they can't be as free as the rich when it comes to money and finances because they can't afford to do that, they have to be careful with their money as they only have a limited amount of it.

So, it's all about affordability and concern that makes things look different and not the wins or losses because a casino wouldn't deliberately make the rich win more and make the poor win less because they are going to get their revenue anyway, and they can get even more if the rich lose because they are generally high rollers.

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December 19, 2023, 05:42:32 PM
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I have observed that the rich, I mean those who are financially comfortable, win more in gambling than the poor. By poor, I mean those who do not have enough to meet all their needs. I don't know the reason for this. Could it be that the rich understand financial management more? Or could it be that the rich are less desperate to win which make them make better gambling decision? I really want to know the reason for this pattern I have observed.
An interesting observation, but you need to clarify how your observations took place. Did the people you are talking about have the same conditions? What type of gambling was there, at what time, on what day and many other variables.
I think the point is that a rich person has a more free attitude towards money and is not afraid of losing it, therefore he makes decisions more freely, while a poor person is more pressured by responsibility
It's true and I agree with it, but I don't think this means that the rich win more in gambling than the poor, it simply means that the rich don't care much about their losses and only focus on their gambling and the big wins they get, while the poor has more concerns about their losses because as you said, they can't be as free as the rich when it comes to money and finances because they can't afford to do that, they have to be careful with their money as they only have a limited amount of it.

So, it's all about affordability and concern that makes things look different and not the wins or losses because a casino wouldn't deliberately make the rich win more and make the poor win less because they are going to get their revenue anyway, and they can get even more if the rich lose because they are generally high rollers.

Well your idea is right, it's just the difference between the two situations between the poor and the rich and of course I also think that financial strength is not a determinant of who will win more or more often, you've said the basic difference is that the rich have more power in terms of money which means that losing is less of a problem for them. The level of worry also plays a role in this, as you said that the difference between rich people and poor people is in terms of reaction when they lose, poor people have a spontaneity that tends to feel more disappointed than rich people who don't care much about losing.

And also another thing is in terms of opportunities, simply put the poor have far fewer opportunities when they lose, meaning that the rich have the money to make 10 attempts and the poor may only have a chance of 1/2 time or even not be able to do it again when in the early stages all their money is used up with just one attempt and of course cannot continue to the next session. So for the winning problem I think it is not related to the problem of being poor or rich because it depends more on luck.

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December 19, 2023, 05:55:30 PM
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I have observed that the rich, I mean those who are financially comfortable, win more in gambling than the poor. By poor, I mean those who do not have enough to meet all their needs. I don't know the reason for this. Could it be that the rich understand financial management more? Or could it be that the rich are less desperate to win which make them make better gambling decision? I really want to know the reason for this pattern I have observed.

When the rich want to think about winning games, they think like someone that has money and want to make more money, they can bet a million on a single game with probability of making 30% with risk of 30% losing the money and they will go for it, if the game win as they expected, he will be 30% richer from his wager money or money stake but if a poor man want to gamble, they assume that gambling is the way to eradicate poverty from their life and that is how they lost little they have. A poor person can wager $1 and expect to win $100k from that money and only a greedy people do that and they hardly make money with such sense.

Good strategy comes with peace of mind and good thinking comes when you have money, most of the time the rich people don't stress their head with much information, they just make some predictions based on the current form of the team and they are good to go but a poor man will go over and over with many thoughts on his mind and after that stressful research to end up making nothing in the end.

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December 20, 2023, 05:43:19 AM
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It's true and I agree with it, but I don't think this means that the rich win more in gambling than the poor, it simply means that the rich don't care much about their losses and only focus on their gambling and the big wins they get, while the poor has more concerns about their losses because as you said, they can't be as free as the rich when it comes to money and finances because they can't afford to do that, they have to be careful with their money as they only have a limited amount of it.

So, it's all about affordability and concern that makes things look different and not the wins or losses because a casino wouldn't deliberately make the rich win more and make the poor win less because they are going to get their revenue anyway, and they can get even more if the rich lose because they are generally high rollers.
The only difference in the treatment the rich and the poor receive has to do with the bonuses a casino could give to those that wager the most money, and this makes sense since casinos would like to keep the clients that spend the most money with them, and in order to accomplish this goal they give them better bonuses, but other than that casinos cannot really make a distinction among their players due to their social status, and if they did so, someone will in time realize this and once it happens that casino will lose all of those clients as they realize their games are not really fair for everyone.
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December 20, 2023, 06:36:08 AM
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I just read this and then re-read it, I don't understand the consensus made by the OP to get the result "rich gamblers get more profits than poor gamblers", if only in the situation of capital used in each gambling session, then why is there so much Many rich people have fallen into poverty as a result of gambling, I think additional strong arguments are needed in this claim, because the facts in the field of claim do not have an exact correlation.

I want to know what kind of approach was taken to conclude that the statement could be justified. Huh

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December 20, 2023, 06:53:29 AM
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I just read this and then re-read it, I don't understand the consensus made by the OP to get the result "rich gamblers get more profits than poor gamblers", if only in the situation of capital used in each gambling session, then why is there so much Many rich people have fallen into poverty as a result of gambling, I think additional strong arguments are needed in this claim, because the facts in the field of claim do not have an exact correlation.

I want to know what kind of approach was taken to conclude that the statement could be justified. Huh

I understood OP in this way:
poor people or people who doesn't meet their daily requirements are more like play to win money, their intention is totally to win from casino, which causes them to take wrong decisions and they be greedy and bet more and more without managing their capital, they risk money which is very important for them they cannot able to handle the losses.
first rich people are knowledgeable, and they have money which is not very important to them, like too much extra money after completing their needs. so they less likely to chase losses.
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December 20, 2023, 07:20:44 AM
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I just read this and then re-read it, I don't understand the consensus made by the OP to get the result "rich gamblers get more profits than poor gamblers", if only in the situation of capital used in each gambling session, then why is there so much Many rich people have fallen into poverty as a result of gambling, I think additional strong arguments are needed in this claim, because the facts in the field of claim do not have an exact correlation.

I want to know what kind of approach was taken to conclude that the statement could be justified. Huh

I think the OP mostly implies the scenario to those gamblers who are rich, whom has many funds at their disposal to use in gambling, and at the same time, responsible enough to know when to continue and when to stop. Winning big profits doesn't just become possible by merely being rich. You have to be strategic and knowledgeable as well so that you can take advantage of having big money allotment while not neglecting the possibility that you could be addicted if you go beyond your capabilities.

It's doesn't necessarily mean that if you are rich, then you'll also profit big automatically. No, it don't work like that. You also need to do your part such as digesting the information relevant to what you are interested in, for instance in sportsbetting, so you can enjoy winning and the rewards as well.
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December 20, 2023, 07:26:19 AM
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I have observed that the rich, I mean those who are financially comfortable, win more in gambling than the poor. By poor, I mean those who do not have enough to meet all their needs. I don't know the reason for this. Could it be that the rich understand financial management more? Or could it be that the rich are less desperate to win which make them make better gambling decision? I really want to know the reason for this pattern I have observed.
you are just confused because mostly the Big winners are being broadcasted and those small rollers are left behind but trust me , the ratio of being a winner is mostly happens in the poor but since they only bet smaller then they are seeking for more wins ending them a loser in the end, but those thousand dollars or even million dollars bettors? they just need a 1 or 2 hits wins and they are already good.
that is how gambling works for poor and rich , so the winning streak needs more from the poorer while the richer needs only few .

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December 20, 2023, 07:36:28 AM
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I just read this and then re-read it, I don't understand the consensus made by the OP to get the result "rich gamblers get more profits than poor gamblers", if only in the situation of capital used in each gambling session, then why is there so much Many rich people have fallen into poverty as a result of gambling, I think additional strong arguments are needed in this claim, because the facts in the field of claim do not have an exact correlation.

I want to know what kind of approach was taken to conclude that the statement could be justified. Huh

I think the OP mostly implies the scenario to those gamblers who are rich, whom has many funds at their disposal to use in gambling, and at the same time, responsible enough to know when to continue and when to stop. Winning big profits doesn't just become possible by merely being rich. You have to be strategic and knowledgeable as well so that you can take advantage of having big money allotment while not neglecting the possibility that you could be addicted if you go beyond your capabilities.

It's doesn't necessarily mean that if you are rich, then you'll also profit big automatically. No, it don't work like that. You also need to do your part such as digesting the information relevant to what you are interested in, for instance in sportsbetting, so you can enjoy winning and the rewards as well.

The simplest answer is the difference in bankroll, it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor when you talk about bankroll management. There are rich people who will spend all their money, sell their car or whatever they have to keep on gambling, this is also the same case as for those who are poor. Just look at it this way, if you'll compare the bankroll and winning of rich and poor people, a rich gambler can win $1000 or more in 1 bet vs. a poor gambler who will gamble and depend on luck playing the whole day just to win $100 because of their limited bankroll. No matter how lucky you are, it all boils down on your bankroll.
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December 20, 2023, 11:26:45 AM
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Rich people have a lot of money for initial capital to gamble, or you could say it's just a moment's entertainment, not only that, they also definitely understand how to win. Their way of playing is relaxed and they don't rush into thinking about making decisions when gambling. When compared to people who don't have a lot of money, they tend to have minimal capital or you could say reckless capital, to gamble and only rely on luck to win at gambling. Therefore, their mindset is very different when it comes to gambling. Maybe this is my response to what you are thinking here.


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December 20, 2023, 11:43:16 AM
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They do really have that versatility and they do really have that kind of space on which they could really be able to recover on what they had lost considering on the amount that they've been using on which we know that it would really be giving out that kind of probability but just like on what i had said that chances or odds would really be just that the same. There's no poor or rich
when it comes on being lucky because even on small money or fund or balance ,you could really be able to hit up some jackpot on which it is the same to those who do have those big balance.
Although the amount would really able to win up is much less though, which is it is really that understandable. Gambler should at least be realizing it on the first place.
For us to risk that much money and experience defeat, it would obviously be very detrimental and of course it would be shame if we had to use that much money just to gamble.
But those rich people have much more money and of course the amount of money that has been bet is not an amount that is considered large because this amount is only small amount of the money that they have.
They bet with longer sessions that they will definitely win but they don't care about that because they really enjoy doing it.
Jackpot wins or maxwins are what rich people look forward to the most, so no matter how much they end up and how much they win, they won't care.
And there is positive side that I salute rich people, namely that they can really manage their money very well because they gamble with money that they can actually receive when they lose it, even though they might get it back again tomorrow.

You are right that there are no poor people and rich people when it comes to luck because luck always comes unexpectedly, even luck always comes without realizing it.
Even if we only bet small amount of money and we have good luck, we can still get big wins and what makes the difference is the amount of winnings because the biggest winning small bets are not that big.

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December 20, 2023, 11:46:01 AM
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It's true and I agree with it, but I don't think this means that the rich win more in gambling than the poor, it simply means that the rich don't care much about their losses and only focus on their gambling and the big wins they get, while the poor has more concerns about their losses because as you said, they can't be as free as the rich when it comes to money and finances because they can't afford to do that, they have to be careful with their money as they only have a limited amount of it.

So, it's all about affordability and concern that makes things look different and not the wins or losses because a casino wouldn't deliberately make the rich win more and make the poor win less because they are going to get their revenue anyway, and they can get even more if the rich lose because they are generally high rollers.
The only difference in the treatment the rich and the poor receive has to do with the bonuses a casino could give to those that wager the most money, and this makes sense since casinos would like to keep the clients that spend the most money with them, and in order to accomplish this goal they give them better bonuses, but other than that casinos cannot really make a distinction among their players due to their social status, and if they did so, someone will in time realize this and once it happens that casino will lose all of those clients as they realize their games are not really fair for everyone.
it all depends on how fair the casino he visits is.
as long as I'm at my favorite casino that I'm currently promoting, I think it's one of the fair casinos because it not only treats whale gamblers special but for regular gamblers like me who are often given bonuses when they qualify and sometimes also give bonuses without doing anything and sometimes I was confused about getting a bonus without making a bet and already 2 times I got a bonus of around $35-$50 and for me this is a big amount for a regular gambler like me and this is very fair.

back to the main topic.
It's true that rich people are always given the best facilities from the poor, but this is a reasonable action because the gambling business requires a lot of money to develop its casinos and rich gamblers are already providing monetary support through their bets, so it makes sense that rich gamblers always get very special facilities, but still of course, in terms of luck to win, rich gamblers and poor gamblers both have the right to win big and luck doesn't just favor the rich.

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December 20, 2023, 11:53:41 AM
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It's doesn't necessarily mean that if you are rich, then you'll also profit big automatically. No, it don't work like that. You also need to do your part such as digesting the information relevant to what you are interested in, for instance in sportsbetting, so you can enjoy winning and the rewards as well.
Yes, it's true that wealth doesn't guarantee that you will continue to win and get good luck, gambling doesn't look at rich and poor because whoever is lucky is the winner, so don't always think that to win you have to be rich, even though that's not what is actually meant is the mindset of rich people sometimes They don't play with caution, they play with courage so that when they win a big bet, it is already a big win for them.

In contrast to poor people, most people think too much and analyze too much strategy so they end up losing, because that's not really necessary because luck determines who will win, it doesn't matter whether rich or poor, that's how gambling actually works and I'm sure everyone also thinks so. what I think is the same as them.  Wink

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December 20, 2023, 11:59:59 AM
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It's doesn't necessarily mean that if you are rich, then you'll also profit big automatically. No, it don't work like that. You also need to do your part such as digesting the information relevant to what you are interested in, for instance in sportsbetting, so you can enjoy winning and the rewards as well.
Yes, it's true that wealth doesn't guarantee that you will continue to win and get good luck, gambling doesn't look at rich and poor because whoever is lucky is the winner, so don't always think that to win you have to be rich, even though that's not what is actually meant is the mindset of rich people sometimes They don't play with caution, they play with courage so that when they win a big bet, it is already a big win for them.

In contrast to poor people, most people think too much and analyze too much strategy so they end up losing, because that's not really necessary because luck determines who will win, it doesn't matter whether rich or poor, that's how gambling actually works and I'm sure everyone also thinks so. what I think is the same as them.  Wink
Luck is something that  cant be influenced no matter what financial status you do have as a person on which it is true whether rich or poor, those chances would really be just that the same.
This is why it would really be that important that you should really be that having that realization that we should really be that careful when it comes to spending money specially on gambling
because chances would really be that totally random and if you wont really be that careful when it comes to spending then most likely you would really be ending up yourself on getting
wrecked with gambling due to bad and impulsive decisions which you should really be avoiding it on the first place.

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December 20, 2023, 12:08:33 PM
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Rich people have a lot of money for initial capital to gamble, or you could say it's just a moment's entertainment, not only that, they also definitely understand how to win. Their way of playing is relaxed and they don't rush into thinking about making decisions when gambling. When compared to people who don't have a lot of money, they tend to have minimal capital or you could say reckless capital, to gamble and only rely on luck to win at gambling. Therefore, their mindset is very different when it comes to gambling. Maybe this is my response to what you are thinking here.

And playing in a more relaxed way has better chances of winning. They can think and strategize better compared to those who have small budgets, especially the poor who might even get nervous of losing their bet.

But sometimes people are quick to judge why the rich are spending thousands to millions of dollars in betting. They didn't even consider that those amounts could be minimal and the rich version of money they can afford to lose. Most of these rich bettors are financially successful which is why they are rich. And people that are good in the financial aspect have good self-discipline so they mostly know and are mature enough when they need to stop.

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December 20, 2023, 12:10:45 PM
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I just read this and then re-read it, I don't understand the consensus made by the OP to get the result "rich gamblers get more profits than poor gamblers", if only in the situation of capital used in each gambling session, then why is there so much Many rich people have fallen into poverty as a result of gambling, I think additional strong arguments are needed in this claim, because the facts in the field of claim do not have an exact correlation.

I want to know what kind of approach was taken to conclude that the statement could be justified. Huh
poor people or people who doesn't meet their daily requirements are more like play to win money, their intention is totally to win from casino, which causes them to take wrong decisions and they be greedy and bet more and more without managing their capital, they risk money which is very important for them they cannot able to handle the losses.
first rich people are knowledgeable, and they have money which is not very important to them, like too much extra money after completing their needs. so they less likely to chase losses.
Yes, poor people generally think that there is no possibility of getting rich with the income they earn. But there are many of them who try their best to become rich. But they chose their way to gambling. In the beginning, their journey starts with wrong ideas. Once they lose they try again. After repeated attempts like this, when they run out of money, they become helpless. But rich people are able to make better decisions. They avoid the temptation to get more money quickly. As a result, their mistakes are reduced. A rich man can take risks repeatedly but a poor man cannot. Due to which the opportunities and possibilities of the rich are comparatively more than the poor.

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December 20, 2023, 01:28:39 PM
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The factor of circumstances and weak finances in real life is the biggest driver that makes them always chase victory and do not care how much money they sacrifice, actually what they do is not a struggle to achieve a big win but slowly if you or they realize the facts that occur are actions and goals like that only throw their money drained slowly and without realizing it, the more they are surprised by the amount they lose a lot then another possibility or another decision that seems more likely they will choose to act more aggressively because of the inability to accept the risks that occur.

In fact there will  never be a better situation if you have that perspective on gambling, simply put when you lose you will be curious and when you win you will be addicted, so it's actually a cycle for people who are already into addiction. For the rich themselves it obviously seems to be true that a good financial situation will not make them act excessively, the logic is as you said that by having many sources of income then obviously at first glance I already know that most likely they come just to fill their empty time along with seeking entertainment, while the poor have a purpose that is not recommended, as I said that the situation factor is the cause.
If they don't pay attention to their lives and only care about gambling because they want to chase more wins, they will only experience greater disappointment because they will probably experience greater losses. They have wasted their money even though if they used the money to meet their daily needs, they would not lack anything. But because they saw that several people could win, they were interested and wanted to try it. That is why we may still often see many people who experience losses from gambling and cannot control themselves while gambling until their money runs out.

In fact, with self-control, we will not become curious and want to recover from our loss because we will always remember that recovering from our loss can cause us to experience more losses. Rich people can gamble whenever they want because they have a lot of money so they can use it for gambling and also for other things. They will not experience any problems except the problem of gambling addiction, which all gamblers will still experience. Rich people have more sources of income than most people, so that is what allows them to have more money than other people.

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December 20, 2023, 04:08:04 PM
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The simplest answer is the difference in bankroll, it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor when you talk about bankroll management. There are rich people who will spend all their money, sell their car or whatever they have to keep on gambling, this is also the same case as for those who are poor. Just look at it this way, if you'll compare the bankroll and winning of rich and poor people, a rich gambler can win $1000 or more in 1 bet vs. a poor gambler who will gamble and depend on luck playing the whole day just to win $100 because of their limited bankroll. No matter how lucky you are, it all boils down on your bankroll.
Bankroll management is definitely a big factor when comes to winning because the casino definitely don't know the difference between the poor and the rich and so when you place your stake they definitely are not able to different between the poor and the rich staking on their platforms so like you did said it's not about been poor or rich.

With bigger bankroll you can win big in few picks but you will have to make multiple picks to get big win when you gambling on a small bank roll. The rich who has got a big bankroll jus stake once or twice and wins big thereby reducing their risk since they didn't have to try with multiple chance but those who have smaller bankroll increase their risk by trying multiple chances of which when one goes against them, they lose almost all their funds because it was little and the wanted to win big by going all with their bankroll.
 

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December 20, 2023, 05:00:04 PM
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If they don't pay attention to their lives and only care about gambling because they want to chase more wins, they will only experience greater disappointment because they will probably experience greater losses. They have wasted their money even though if they used the money to meet their daily needs, they would not lack anything. But because they saw that several people could win, they were interested and wanted to try it. That is why we may still often see many people who experience losses from gambling and cannot control themselves while gambling until their money runs out.

In fact, with self-control, we will not become curious and want to recover from our loss because we will always remember that recovering from our loss can cause us to experience more losses. Rich people can gamble whenever they want because they have a lot of money so they can use it for gambling and also for other things. They will not experience any problems except the problem of gambling addiction, which all gamblers will still experience. Rich people have more sources of income than most people, so that is what allows them to have more money than other people.

The problem is that for many people, gambling is one of the only opportunities to escape poverty. Yes, only a few people succeed, and not everywhere has a real chance of success, but it's opportunities like this that inspire people. And the rich always have a chance to become poor because of uncontrolled spending.
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December 21, 2023, 08:35:54 AM
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The problem is that for many people, gambling is one of the only opportunities to escape poverty. Yes, only a few people succeed, and not everywhere has a real chance of success, but it's opportunities like this that inspire people. And the rich always have a chance to become poor because of uncontrolled spending.
That's true because they see some people can make money from gambling and want to get it too so they think they can make money like those people. There are indeed people who can make money from gambling, but there are not as many people as there are people who lose from gambling. They know that they have to be careful when playing gambling and must be really strict in using their money to gamble. We cannot compare ourselves with rich people in gambling because the amount of money is very different and they can gamble using more money than us. We can only gamble in moderation because if we don't, we will lose a lot of money, which we will regret.

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