These degenerates don't wanna quit.. is there a way out?

[Sandra_hakeem]

I've seen several hack cases and it's not even funny how a user would be up, day and night just to create a reputation and it's taken away just in a moment; apparently, it becomes a mask to this deluders - AND NOBODY FUCKING DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT??
The vulnerability of every account doesn't depend on the people behind them - it depends on the site itself...IF IT'S NOT SAFE, THEN ITS NOT WORTH DOING AT ALL!!!!! I remember a time when I thought of initiating the "secret question" and I was told it doesn't do any good, it only exposes the account the more...  what do I do then? It wouldn't be nice if this happens and my name is soiled for whatever unjust course....
I believe you see everything in here and you'll definitely see this; GIVE US 2FA THEYMOS... !!!!!
Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

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[philipma1957]

I've seen several hack cases and it's not even funny how a user would be up, day and night just to create a reputation and it's taken away just in a moment; apparently, it becomes a mask to this deluders - AND NOBODY FUCKING DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT??
The vulnerability of every account doesn't depend on the people behind them - it depends on the site itself...IF IT'S NOT SAFE, THEN ITS NOT WORTH DOING AT ALL!!!!! I remember a time when I thought of initiating the "secret question" and I was told it doesn't do any good, it only exposes the account the more...  what do I do then? It wouldn't be nice if this happens and my name is soiled for whatever unjust course....
I believe you see everything in here and you'll definitely see this; GIVE US 2FA THEYMOS... !!!!!
Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

if you fully control an address and show it on the website it should help you if you are hacked.

[Stalker22]

Use a strong password.
Keep your email account safe.
Beware of phishing sites.
Do not share your credentials with anyone.
And, quit your bitching! No one will hack your account if you take enough care of your security.

Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?

Yes. It helps in case you lose access to your account for any reason.

[SatoPrincess]

What’s with the cap locks? You must be really angry. I suggest you do what everyone does, stake your bitcoin address here

BTW this topic has been discussed so many times;
 
Can bitcointalk.org get 2 factor authentication?

Why doesn't Bitcointalk support 2FA

2FA on bitcoin talk

Isn't it time to introduce 2FA to enhance user account security ?

Bitcointalk.org 2FA option/feature

Should there be an option of adding 2fa for forum accounts?

[Fausto Arta]

The vulnerability of every account doesn't depend on the people behind them - it depends on the site itself

Is bitcointalk that vulnerable?
I guess it all depends on who is in control, not the site.

Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?

I believe anyone who can maintain their privacy well and surfing the internet safely will be more likely to stay safe with a strong password for their account. Signing messages also helps, I was told someone signing messages help you recover your account in case of hacking.

[Rikafip]

The vulnerability of every account doesn't depend on the people behind them - it depends on the site itself...

It very much depend on the people behind the account and their behaviour.

Is bitcointalk that vulnerable?

Not really, as we didn't have too many hack cases, at least not among the higher rank accounts. That of course doesn't mean that it coulnd't be safer by implementing 2FA as thatr's something that many of us would like to see happening sooner than later.

[PX-Z]

it's not even funny how a user would be up, day and night just to create a reputation and it's taken away just in a moment;

It's temporary tag because of obvious reasons. It was hacked.

The vulnerability of every account doesn't depend on the people behind them - it depends on the site

If you are talking of the secret question, only to those who doesn't read forum's update, especially here in meta are the ones got problem with that. There's a reason why it was done, and it is easy how to recover the account due to that reason.
No need to use capslock and blame the site, blame yourself for not having knowledge that could save you from experiencing this. I've been on this forum for almost 5 years and others are much more longer but never got a problem on that thing (secret question) or wasn't even hacked. It's not the site, it's the user.

[decodx]

I've seen several hack cases and it's not even funny how a user would be up, day and night just to create a reputation and it's taken away just in a moment;

What sorts of hacks are you referring to here on bitcointalk? I wouldn't sweat it too much though.  Even if some joker manages to hack into someone's account, that dont mean the site itself is vulnerable and  folks gotta be responsible for their own security - can't expect Bitcointalk to babysit everyone's account. 

[light_warrior]

I've been on this forum for almost 5 years and others are much more longer but never got a problem on that thing (secret question) or wasn't even hacked. It's not the site, it's the user.

Looks like you've never used the secret question to recover your password, otherwise you'd know that if you use the secret question to recover your password, your account will be locked and you'll have to contact the account recovery team. You can read about it here.

PSA: ACCOUNTS WILL BE LOCKED IF THE SECRET QUESTION IS USED TO RECOVER IT

[PX-Z]

Looks like you've never used the secret question to recover your password, otherwise you'd know that if you use the secret question to recover your password, your account will be locked and you'll have to contact the account recovery team. You can read about it here.

PSA: ACCOUNTS WILL BE LOCKED IF THE SECRET QUESTION IS USED TO RECOVER IT

No need to use it for me to know what it could happen because it's all over the forum do's and don'ts. Besides that, i really hate that security questions in any website that require it that's why i didn't touch that thing unless it's required.

[SamReomo]

The vulnerability of every account doesn't depend on the people behind them - it depends on the site itself...IF IT'S NOT SAFE, THEN ITS NOT WORTH DOING AT ALL!

No the users get hacked due to their own less-technical nature and the site has nothing to do with that. I have seen many hacked Gmail, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, ChatGPT, and so other platforms accounts getting hacked and those sites are considered as secure by the users.

If the database of the site gets hacked then that's a weakness in the security of the site but if a user's account gets hacked then that's not a weakness of the site but of the user who doesn't took care of his/her account and used a weak password or somehow his/her system got compromised.

[Saisher]

GIVE US 2FA THEYMOS... !!!!!
Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

I'm okay with signing my address rather than a 2FA because it compromises your privacy we all know that companies own these 2FA tools, we are a decentralized community and we do not want to rely our security on tools being run by companies.
We are not like all the other platforms on the internet they rely their security in a third party, we should show to everybody that we do it the Nakamoto's way

[JollyGood]

I think I would state something similar in response the OP. I am unsure what hack the OP refers to but in general, hacks are taking place everyday on some website somewhere and there is not much that can be done to protect this forum than has already been done. The rest is down to the individual themselves and they have to take their own precautions to protect their login credentials and so on.

I've seen several hack cases and it's not even funny how a user would be up, day and night just to create a reputation and it's taken away just in a moment;

What sorts of hacks are you referring to here on bitcointalk? I wouldn't sweat it too much though.  Even if some joker manages to hack into someone's account, that dont mean the site itself is vulnerable and  folks gotta be responsible for their own security - can't expect Bitcointalk to babysit everyone's account. 

[hd49728]

Users have to use unique and strong passwords for their accounts. Even the forum does not have 2FA protection with the SMF forum, there are alternative solutions to secure account and use for account recovery too.

Forum account: security, privacy, and recovery

PowerGlove made efforts to build a SMF patch for community too.
A concise 2FA/TOTP implementation (SMF patch)

[Husires]

I have not heard of a case where an active user lost access to his account and was unable to regain it. Active accounts have access to sign a message, and hackers will not be able to benefit from the account, as changing the writing style will be a reason to doubt the account.
The only case in which hackers can benefit from a hacked account requesting a loan without changing the password or email and hopes to obtain the loan quickly before the real user access that account.

[EarnOnVictor]

I've seen several hack cases and it's not even funny how a user would be up, day and night just to create a reputation and it's taken away just in a moment; apparently, it becomes a mask to this deluders - AND NOBODY FUCKING DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT??
The vulnerability of every account doesn't depend on the people behind them - it depends on the site itself...IF IT'S NOT SAFE, THEN ITS NOT WORTH DOING AT ALL!!!!! I remember a time when I thought of initiating the "secret question" and I was told it doesn't do any good, it only exposes the account the more...  what do I do then? It wouldn't be nice if this happens and my name is soiled for whatever unjust course....
I believe you see everything in here and you'll definitely see this; GIVE US 2FA THEYMOS... !!!!!
Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?

I don't even know the basis for this post, is it for Theymos to give us the 2FA? And you wrote all those epistles? Well, it would have made more sense to me if Bitcointalk was the place where you keep your money or other valuable assets, but unfortunately, it's not, so 2FA should be the least of your worries on this forum. Personally, I don't care about it, this is a forum and I don't use 2FA in any of the forums I participate in, that's if they exist there at all. The reason why this looks like a must is what I don't know yet.

If you like, you can continue to change your password and make it stronger and if you think you are being hacked regularly unlike others, you might want to look within your circle and be more protective of your gadgets. This is a community and everything we write is not even hidden, so I don't know where the too much concern about the 2FA is coming from.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?

I could not find a staked address from you, I must be too weak to find things. If you have staked an address so far then you are safe. We have talked about the rest many times.

[FatFork]

The vulnerability of every account doesn't depend on the people behind them - it depends on the site itself...IF IT'S NOT SAFE, THEN ITS NOT WORTH DOING AT ALL!!!!!

First of all, what's with the yelling? Take it easy. No need to shout.

Second, you are completely wrong. I'm no cyber expert, but from what I've read seems all researchers consider humans (that is, users) to be the weakest link in the cybersecurity chain. According to many studies, 9 out of 10 data breach incidents are caused by human mistakes. So I'd say how vulnerable a system is depends a lot on the person using it.  This forum is no exception.

Third, let's cut out the baseless FUD! If you genuinely believe that the Bitcointalk.org forum is unsafe or worthless, then why keep using it? No one's forcing you, right?

[Pmalek]

What sorts of hacks are you referring to here on bitcointalk?

It's probably this case from October that was recently bumped: harizen - ban appeal. But the OP of that thread seems to have given up and hasn't been online for months. He can't expect other forum members to fight his battles if he isn't here himself anymore.

I don't think the forum has an existential problem with account hacking and people left and right losing access to their accounts due to no mistakes of their own. If that was the case, we would see dozens of complaints weekly. We get a few complaints every now and then and it's unfortunate. Although we never understand what exactly happened, it's usually a mistake of the user. Some don't want to admit it, others don't know what they did wrong. But remember, prisons are full of people and they are all innocent if you ask them. I am not blaming anyone, just saying.

[Plaguedeath]

This forum was hacked for three times and the last time was 2015, I think it's already secure since we haven't suffer any hack anymore in the last 8 years.

I could not find a staked address from you, I must be too weak to find things. If you have staked an address so far then you are safe. We have talked about the rest many times.

It's not necessary, he can sign a message from the address that he used to participate in signature campaign.

Third, let's cut out the baseless FUD! If you genuinely believe that the Bitcointalk.org forum is unsafe or worthless, then why keep using it? No one's forcing you, right?

Of course it's for money.

Don't get me wrong, participating in signature campaign is completely fine and signature campaign is the biggest reason why this forum has a lot traffic

[Upgrade00]

It's not necessary, he can sign a message from the address that he used to participate in signature campaign.

I will say it's still necessary and a good practice for users to do before they are in a crisis point with a hacker handling their account.

The initial idea behind signing a message was that other users verify and quote your message, so even if a hacker gets access to your account and deletes all traces of an address, it's still available in the quoted messages on that thread. Post scrappers from users like LoyceV and TryNinja have fixed this issue to an extent, there will always be an archive of posts made on the forum after a certain time.

All users should still be encouraged to sign a message early on to insure their accounts, cause not all participate in signature campaigns.

[hugeblack]

This forum was hacked for three times and the last time was 2015, I think it's already secure since we haven't suffer any hack anymore in the last 8 years.

This prompts me to ask a question: The last time the forum was hacked was in 2015, and it appears that this topic was created ----> in 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0 So how was the process of restoring accounts completed before that thread was created? Was it the same as the current method, or was there another porridge, or were there other methods?

I believe you see everything in here and you'll definitely see this; GIVE US 2FA THEYMOS... !!!!!
Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Yes, this should be enough. If you signed a message using PGP this also help to restored quickly. One of the accounts (+6k merits) was hacked and it was restored in a short time (before restoration became quick ).

OFF-topic: Why do you mention your name at the end of each topic? Is the account managed by more than one user?

[Text]

The security of your account is not solely dependent on the site itself, but it depends on the actions you take to protect your account. Just focus on what you can do to protect your account and prevent similar issues from happening in the future. I have visited several other forum sites, but I haven't encountered any with a 2FA feature, so I'm not sure if it's possible or not.

[Lucius]

I've seen several hack cases and it's not even funny how a user would be up, day and night just to create a reputation and it's taken away just in a moment; apparently, it becomes a mask to this deluders - AND NOBODY FUCKING DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT??
The vulnerability of every account doesn't depend on the people behind them - it depends on the site itself...IF IT'S NOT SAFE, THEN ITS NOT WORTH DOING AT ALL!!!!! I remember a time when I thought of initiating the "secret question" and I was told it doesn't do any good, it only exposes the account the more...  what do I do then? It wouldn't be nice if this happens and my name is soiled for whatever unjust course....
I believe you see everything in here and you'll definitely see this; GIVE US 2FA THEYMOS... !!!!!
Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?

It's strange to me that someone who has been on the forum for years reacts in this way, as if he didn't understand until now that the security of his bitcointalk account depends only on him, and that no extra features will help prevent someone from being hacked. As for 2FA, which would probably be connected to the user's e-mail, what is the use of that, considering that most of those who are hacked will be compromised to such an extent that that e-mail will also be hacked.

2FA is something that can be bypassed in many ways anyway, and instead of looking for security where there is none, start acting like adults who think for themselves and don't play with their login data like children. At the end of the day, every hacker is just taking advantage of the opportunity that someone gives him, and that means that half of the blame lies with the one who was hacked.

[JollyGood]

The vulnerability of every account doesn't depend on the people behind them - it depends on the site itself...IF IT'S NOT SAFE, THEN ITS NOT WORTH DOING AT ALL!!!!!

First of all, what's with the yelling? Take it easy. No need to shout.

Second, you are completely wrong. I'm no cyber expert, but from what I've read seems all researchers consider humans (that is, users) to be the weakest link in the cybersecurity chain. According to many studies, 9 out of 10 data breach incidents are caused by human mistakes. So I'd say how vulnerable a system is depends a lot on the person using it.  This forum is no exception.

Third, let's cut out the baseless FUD! If you genuinely believe that the Bitcointalk.org forum is unsafe or worthless, then why keep using it? No one's forcing you, right?

There is a possibility that in the middle of all that screaming, the OP lost their way and did not elaborate on the specific issue that made them create the thread. Even if the OP has a valid reason (or point) for this thread, alienating the forum members by posting in a crude manner is not exactly the way to open a debate.

It will be interesting to see the response the OP provides to your third point.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Yes, this should be enough. If you signed a message using PGP this also help to restored quickly. One of the accounts (+6k merits) was hacked and it was restored in a short time (before restoration became quick ).

OFF-topic: Why do you mention your name at the end of each topic? Is the account managed by more than one user?

I am curious about this too.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I often receive letters with a name in this form when using some kind of email messenger, and the name is written there in advance. 
OP, your fears and the solution to these fears will still depend on you. If you use the forum on a mobile phone, then even as you say that you do not follow unfamiliar links, your safety depends on the applications installed on your phone. If you use a computer, then start studying systems that are far from Windows, since in them we regularly see certain incidents that await users for seemingly harmless actions. Your safety will always be in your hands. Monitor the news; thereby, you will understand where you can get a virus or spyware.

[Shenanigan]

GIVE US 2FA THEYMOS... !!!!!

Good idea. I support

apparently, it becomes a mask to this deluders - AND NOBODY FUCKING DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT??

I also hate various shenanigans.

I am fully agree with you. Just clarify please:

These people are degenerates?

apparently, it becomes a mask to this deluders

Or these people are degenerates?

AND NOBODY FUCKING DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT??

Or both people are degenerates?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

And, quit your bitching! No one will hack your account if you take enough care of your security.

What about that big hack back in 2017?  Wasn't that a hack of the forum and its data itself rather than of individual accounts? 

And to be fair, there are many aspects of bitcointalk that are still in the 2009 era and really shouldn't be.  I mean I like the consistency of the UI and all that, but 1) Where's that New Forum Software that's been in the works since probably before I joined in 2015, and 2) At least a small amount of the forum's funds should probably go toward upgrading a few things--maybe 2FA, improving the search function, creating a mobile-friendly version, and also a dark mode.  Just my 2 sats; those aren't my funds, so it's not like my "vote" matters.

[NeuroticFish]

GIVE US 2FA THEYMOS... !!!!!

No. Why would he put effort into it? Because you are not capable to set a safe password and keep it safe? Maybe you were too busy with your own problems (caused by yourself, let's be clear), but the vast majority of the users never got their BTT account hacked.
And I'll continue: if you go on this kind of weak security, there's a good chance your accounts will be hacked also with 2FA present, because you'll keep 2FA on the same device where you are browsing from, or, even worse, keep the 2FA backup codes together with the password.

Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?

I hope you meant message. 

Now more seriously, it depends... how safe you keep your private key or seed?
If at least these are actually safe then yes, it should help.

[JollyGood]

Those might not be your funds but as a forum member you have the same right as any other to make suggestions or ask questions right? What struck me was the question you asked about the new forum and would like to know what exactly is going on with it. Has there ever been a realistic estimated release date?

With the amount donated over the years surely it should have been ready by now.

1) Where's that New Forum Software that's been in the works since probably before I joined in 2015, and 2) At least a small amount of the forum's funds should probably go toward upgrading a few things--maybe 2FA, improving the search function, creating a mobile-friendly version, and also a dark mode.  Just my 2 sats; those aren't my funds, so it's not like my "vote" matters.

[Alpha Marine]

Every site is constantly attacked by hackers. It's the Internet, this is what happens. So you have to know you have a job to do in protecting your account. You have to make a conscious effort for the sake of your security. I don't mean just the security of your forum account, but the security of every other account on any site or app you have and the security of your phone in general.

2FA will further improve our security but you have to understand it's not going to make it unhackable if you're careless with your security.

And, quit your bitching! No one will hack your account if you take enough care of your security.

I don't think using the term "bitching" for when someone is making a complaint is a nice thing to do. I agree OP need to take more care of their security but her complaint isn't bitching.

[Lucius]

What about that big hack back in 2017?  Wasn't that a hack of the forum and its data itself rather than of individual accounts? 
~snip~

You probably mean the hack from 2015, because in the year you mention there was no hacking of the forum. In addition, there were two more significant forum hacks in 2011 and 2013, but it is positive that this never happened again after 2015.

Bitcointalk history of hacks and vandalism.

[Stalker22]

And, quit your bitching! No one will hack your account if you take enough care of your security.

What about that big hack back in 2017?  Wasn't that a hack of the forum and its data itself rather than of individual accounts? 

I did not know about the 2017 hack, but from what I have read about other previous hacks, I am not sure 2FA would help much in those cases. Sure, 2FA can provide an additional layer of security for users, but it is not foolproof.

And to be fair, there are many aspects of bitcointalk that are still in the 2009 era and really shouldn't be.  I mean I like the consistency of the UI and all that, but 1) Where's that New Forum Software that's been in the works since probably before I joined in 2015, and 2) At least a small amount of the forum's funds should probably go toward upgrading a few things--maybe 2FA, improving the search function, creating a mobile-friendly version, and also a dark mode.  Just my 2 sats; those aren't my funds, so it's not like my "vote" matters.

I have no argument against that. There are many segments of this forum that I would personally like to see improved. And honestly, a mobile-friendly version should have been in the works ages ago.

And, quit your bitching! No one will hack your account if you take enough care of your security.

I don't think using the term "bitching" for when someone is making a complaint is a nice thing to do. I agree OP need to take more care of their security but her complaint isn't bitching.

Oh, and how would you label this?

AND NOBODY FUCKING DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT??

Certainly not the kind of language one would deem suitable for a lady, is it?

Besides, I use the term as a synonym for "complaining", and it's a perfectly acceptable term where I come from. 

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Those might not be your funds but as a forum member you have the same right as any other to make suggestions or ask questions right? What struck me was the question you asked about the new forum and would like to know what exactly is going on with it. Has there ever been a realistic estimated release date?

Suggestions and questions are absolutely appropriate--I guess since I mentioned the lack of upgrades in the context of the forum having enough money to make substantial upgrades, I qualified that by saying that I've got no financial stake in anything Theymos has planned and certainly wouldn't make demands that he hurry up and finish that pie-in-the-sky new forum software and the like.

I'm guessing if that project ever does get completed, I'm probably not going to like how the forum looks as much as I do now--but it's been the same since I registered, so I've known no different.  OP's complaints aren't unreasonable IMO, since forum accounts do have value and said complaints are about security.  The emotion might have been turned down a notch or two, but if nobody bitched about anything then there would be no progress, right?

[hd49728]

This forum was hacked for three times and the last time was 2015, I think it's already secure since we haven't suffer any hack anymore in the last 8 years.

theymos customized the forum a lot from initial source code of SMF software to add more customized features for Bitcointalk users but more important, to secure the forum software more.

Because the forum software is considered as very secured now, any change will need to be considered very carefully.

None of these ideas are new to me. Even if I don't respond to suggestions, I do read them, and they float around in my mind going forward. If it's not already done, then there's some reason why. A big possible reason is that I'm the only person who does development on the current code, and my time is limited. Another big reason is that this is a huge forum with complex dynamics, and even small policy changes can have big effects which need to be thought through very carefully.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?

I could not find a staked address from you, I must be too weak to find things. If you have staked an address so far then you are safe. We have talked about the rest many times.

I haven't staked any yet.

It's probably this case from October that was recently bumped: harizen - ban appeal. But the OP of that thread seems to have given up and hasn't been online for months. He can't expect other forum members to fight his battles if he isn't here himself anymore.

I've gotten enough clarity from some post in the first page... I just wanted to know if there are parameters that's been made to synchronize by the forum itself for every account's security. I seen them already...

OFF-topic: Why do you mention your name at the end of each topic? Is the account managed by more than one user?

 This is my account and it isn't managed by any other person but me... How's that even possible? Hugeblack? What you see at the end of my post isn't written for fancy; that's my preferred Monika. I hope @Jollygood sees this too.

It's strange to me that someone who has been on the forum for years reacts in this way, as if he didn't understand until now that the security of his bitcointalk account depends only on him,

since when did it become a crime to ask questions on what anyone's getting confused about?! This stalking wasn't necessary and doesn't answer any questions... sorry to say.

I hope you meant message.  

That was a mistake.. do you wanna prove otherwise? No? Thanks!

Now more seriously, it depends... how safe you keep your private key or seed?
If at least these are actually safe then yes, it should help.

Thanks alot... My priv keys are safe with me.

Third, let's cut out the baseless FUD! If you genuinely believe that the Bitcointalk.org forum is unsafe or worthless, then why keep using it? No one's forcing you, right?

you're totally off point... Did I mention that anywhere on my post?? Where did you get the interpretation from? Stop taunting others for tryna free up thier curiosities... It ain't supposed to be that way..

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[Mr.right85]

GIVE US 2FA THEYMOS... !!!!!
Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Does it really save the day? 2FA
Of course it makes for a padded layer of security to an account but, that’s where it stops. It doesn’t stop a friend or some one within your circle from handling your device for few minutes with an intent to do harm from archiving an aim. It might be useful in distant situations with unknowns but that’s it. It doesn’t really save you from those that have access to your device.
Maybe your that cautious not to let anyone handle even your desktop or laptop device but, how much of a reality is that should you own such and login once in a while.

One thing is for sure, signed address is been suggested to be some permanent means and supposedly your active which I know OP is, it would only take hours or a few days to note your not in control of your account, you do the needful using signed address to try and recover it (haven’t had the need for this so I can’t say) but, you could always hope for the best of precautions in this signed address format has been put in place.

[DYING_S0UL]

Of course it's for money.

Don't get me wrong, participating in signature campaign is completely fine and signature campaign is the biggest reason why this forum has a lot traffic

Signature has it's own charm. If it wasn't for signature many users wouldn't even stay. You would be surprised to know how many users are just living only using signature. In some countries, money that is earned through signature is enough to provide for an family. This encourages new users to engage more in this forum. So it's considerable.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

You probably mean the hack from 2015, because in the year you mention there was no hacking of the forum. In addition, there were two more significant forum hacks in 2011 and 2013, but it is positive that this never happened again after 2015.

OK, I know I missed this reply and am responding late, but thanks for the correction.  For some reason I thought it was 2017 because at some point when I was on my crusade to destroy account sellers, I discovered that there were a lot of accounts that changed hands that year.  I figured some of them had been hacked, but oops on me!

I don't think using the term "bitching" for when someone is making a complaint is a nice thing to do. I agree OP need to take more care of their security but her complaint isn't bitching.

It's not meant to be nice, and I'd suggest getting used to the harshness of tone you're likely to see whilst browsing our beloved but thorny forum.  Don't know the origin of that word as it's being used here, but it's likely an American thing.

[Pablo-wood]

Of course it's for money.

Don't get me wrong, participating in signature campaign is completely fine and signature campaign is the biggest reason why this forum has a lot traffic

Signature has it's own charm. If it wasn't for signature many users wouldn't even stay. You would be surprised to know how many users are just living only using signature. In some countries, money that is earned through signature is enough to provide for an family. This encourages new users to engage more in this forum. So it's considerable.

Signature campaign started way back June 12th 2011 and before now mining, offering services, Bounties, project participation, Tipping, donations and signature free-promotions were ways users earned from the forum but the introduction of signature campaign crippled other services even though most of them are still active but yet it doesn't generate much traffic anymore.

Most of the other options if well utilised might even generate more fund for participants compared to signature campaign. And This ignorance makes new users with skills that can fetch them more on the forum focus on trying hard to rank up so the can participate without knowing their skills if advertised on the forum can earn them more and the will also receive the same BTC currency for their services