DT1 and DT2 Explained - Gods of Bitcointalk

[mindrust]

(ai generated image, https://creator.nightcafe.studio/)

Before I start explaining DT (deity types), I must first explain what a deity is.

A deity or god is a supernatural being considered to be sacred and worthy of worship. The Oxford Dictionary of English defines deity as a god or goddess, or anything revered as divine.

A deity is basically a god or a goddess. Divine beings. Everybody knows that much already. The important part is, he/she must be worthy of worship. This is important because that's how deities generate their godlike power. The more worshipers they have, the more powerful they become. A god without worshipers is not a god. He/She is basically nothing. Not even a mortal. Not even a memory because nobody even remembers his/her name anymore.

There are two types of deities.

1- DT1 (Deity Type 1): Gods and Goddesses. They have enormous strength and durability.

Major historical examples: Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Odin, Thor, Tengri, Baal, Amaterasu...

2- DT2 (Deity Type 2): Demigods. These are also holy beings but they differentiate from the DT1 due to their unique characteristics. These beings have the blood of a deity and a mortal.

Major historical examples: Hercules, Leonidas, Helen of Troy, Achilles, Kabundungulu, Bragi, Gilgamesh...

DT1 (Deity Type 1)

~Gods Of Bitcointalk~

ai generated image, https://craiyon.com

The divine beings have the power to create life from nothing and eradicate any living creature. This is the club of gods where they drink blue label and bang virgins all day every day. They (mostly) live on Mt. Olympus and look down on mortals.

We measure DT1 gods' power with "God Power". God Power (gp) can be obtained from the other gods (fallen gods included).

The most powerful (top 10) gods (DT1) of bitcointalk are:

1-LoyceV (59 gp, the god king, also known as Switzerland)
2-gmaxwell (24 gp)
3-nutildah (23 gp)
4-o_e_l_e_o (22 gp)
5-DdmrDdmr (22 gp)
6-Mitchell (22 gp)
7-yahoo62278 (22 gp)
8-The Cryptovator (19 gp)
9-lovesmayfamilis (19 gp)
10-Rikafip (18 gp)

These are the most powerful gods who have lots of worshipers and very powerful beings. You just don't fuck with them (or else)

DT2 (Deity Type 2)

~Demigods of Bitcointalk~

Demigods, half mortal, half god. One of the parents was a god and the other was a peasant. Even a godly being can fall in love with a mortal every once in a while. These divine beings are also very powerful and possess some godlike abilities but their powers have a limit. Still though, that doesn't prevent them from achieving amazing goals. Every once in a while we might see them slay a dragon or a Nemean lion which mere mortals can't even dream of doing.

They don't have a club of their own and they certainly don't drink blue label. They drink walmart beer and bang whatever they can get.

DT2 members take their power from the gods directly. So unless a DT1 god supports them, they are just peasants, mortals.

We measure DT2 demigods' power with "God Particles". God particles (gp) can only be obtained from the gods. (fallen gods can't reproduce demigods)

The most powerful (top 10) demigods (DT2) of bitcointalk are:

1-suchmoon (41 gp)
2-Hhampuz (39 gp)
3-hilariousandco (32 gp)
4-DarkStar_  (31 gp)
5-The Sceptical Chymist (29 gp)
6-marlboroza (26 gp)
7-Welsh (23 gp)
8-owlcatz (21 gp)
9-LFC_Bitcoin (20 gp)
10-icopress (20 gp)

Special Mention #1:

satoshi
(4 gp, unique demigod - creator of bitcoin)

Being a demigod doesn't prevent you from accomplishing amazing stuff. satoshi is only a half god but he created this universe. Or maybe he used to be a god and decided to give up on his god powers later on. Or maybe he is hiding his real power. We can only make assumptions at this point because nobody has seen him for years. There is so much to be discovered about him. The researchers are doing their job revealing the mysteries which surround him.

Special Mention #2:

DefaultTrust
(42 gp, an anomaly in the universe, gets stronger eating excessive god power)

Fallen Gods

~ DT1 ~

Exiles. These beings have lost their god powers because of the crimes they have committed. They are banished from Mt. Olympus. Depending on their behavior, they may or may not regain their god status in the future. In their current form, they have the capacity of sending god power (elect gods) but they can't act as gods. They also can't send any god particles to elect demigods (DT2). Power-wise, they are only a little above mortals.

Some notable fallen deities are:

1-HostFat (-5gp)
2-Timelord2067 (-10 gp)
3-Symmetrick (-11 gp)
4-The0ldl_lser (-6 gp)
5-stoos (-1 gp)
6-wolwoo (-14 gp, antihero)
7-be.open (-9 gp)
8-Vispilio (-6 gp)
9-bobita (-2 gp)
10-comit (-1 gp)

DT3 (Deity Type 3)

~Special Deities, The God Killers~

Yes, I lied. I am guilty. There is one more deity type which I haven't mentioned, yet. That is DT3, The God Killers.

While they have all the characteristics of DT1 and DT2, in addition to that, they also bear a unique power. They can delete anybody and reset the realm. Even the most powerful heroic figures have no power against them. Don't let their god power fool you. They are above gods. They can have zero or below gp and still perform as god killers.

There are only two known god killers in existence:

1-Theymos (major god killer, 53 gp)

Theymos devoured the whole Greek and Norse pantheon before. Now he is on bitcointalk. Hopefully he gained some wisdom and we won't share the same fate as the others. (at least for a while)


2-Cyrus (the virus, minor god killer, 24 gp)

Not much is known about Cyrus the virus.

This post was possible thanks to:

1- TalkImg (joker_josue)
2- Bpip.org (Vod, suchmoon, ibminer)
3- LoyceClub (LoyceV)

[owlcatz]

Um... ok.

This is a scammer/impersonator account I tagged long ago.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=629025

[mindrust]

Um... ok.
This is a scammer/impersonator account I tagged long ago.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=629025

Fixed, thanks for finding it so quickly.
edit: forgot to fix the name, did it too.
edit2: fixed some grammar errors and added missing verbs.

[owlcatz]

Fixed, thanks for finding it so quickly.

Don't thank me, thank TalkNinja.

[hugeblack]

This is the strangest explanation I hear today. The forum is multinational and many people believe in different opinions and beliefs, so it is better to keep religion away from the explanations. I also think that most religions today are monotheistic, meaning that there is one God that does not need your worship, but rather you are the one who needs.
In general, the descriptions you mentioned are far from explaining how the trust system works.

[Orpichukwu]

This made me pause for a second. To start with, I really never knew what the word "DT" meant in the first place, not until now, and coming across the meaning for the first time, it now appears scary to me, like it's presented as some sort of secret cult group where there is really some kind of supernatural power purpose by those DTs.
 
It makes it really scary to me, and I think I won't be the only one. This alone can put one in a position where they start seeing spiritualism in the forum. I can make them avoid engaging in conversation or arguments with some people in order not to get into trouble, as they don't even want to know what will come with that.

[DYING_S0UL]

Wait.... what?  Everything went up my head...WTF. You just messed up my well known knowledge of DT with your DT explanation. Anyway, you shouldn't compare DT persons with religious persons/gods/deity. I don't know how others would react to that but personally I don't prefer this.

[SmartGold01]

As I know the Default Trust system is not stable most times it's being rationed because I have came across seeing someone in DT1 today and tomorrow or next few days I noticed they are in DT2, so op I don't know where you derived your inspiration from but in all I think you are giving a bad representation of the entire trust system to beginners. Imagine who doesn't knows about the trustsystem and happened to come across this post they don't mind spreading the information across to others while isn't what exactly it means. I was actually confused at the first place just as orpichukwu said so please let try as much as possible to present things at the right way in order not to mislead people who yet to get whole configuration of DT system, although you could be right at your own views but it would be better of given the right information.

[LoyceMobile]

So, what does that make me? A descendant? A ghost?

[mrust_mobile]

So, what does that make me? A descendant? A ghost?

An avatar sir. You should have known that much.

Avatar (Sanskrit: अवतार, avatāra; pronounced [ɐʋɐt̪aːɾɐ]) is a concept within Hinduism that in Sanskrit literally means "descent". It signifies the material appearance or incarnation of a powerful deity, or spirit on Earth.

[robelneo]

Some may find this offensive and others will find this forum scary, I thought we were preaching decentralization and equality we are no different from centralization with the comparison, I hope this is not the belief and the goal of Theymos when they created the DT system, but it looks like it is.
There are better ways to explain this than attaching the images to a religious figure, this is an open forum some people cannot relate because of the inclusion of religious figures.

[digaran]

Been there, done that, not so much of any god, just a story to spook little kids.😅

[PX-Z]

I'll consider this story if this was done before, before theymos changes the DT/trust system. Where everything is in control in every judgement for positive or negative tag, if a demigod was judged with negative by a god, matic he will no longer in the list next update. The same thing of gods gave you positive judgement, you will be enlisted from deity soon become a god.

But today it will be different cause anyone can be deity and gods just depend on their trustlist.

[philipma1957]

This is the strangest explanation I hear today. The forum is multinational and many people believe in different opinions and beliefs, so it is better to keep religion away from the explanations. I also think that most religions today are monotheistic, meaning that there is one God that does not need your worship, but rather you are the one who needs.
In general, the descriptions you mentioned are far from explaining how the trust system works.

it was amusing .

so he equated theymos to xena the warrior princess.

not sure if you watched the 1990’s show.

[philipma1957]

So, what does that make me? A descendant? A ghost?

a backpack for 🇨🇭

[Mpamaegbu]

By the way, I thought The Sceptical Chymist is a DT1 member? Was the default setting tweaked? For me, he's in DT1. QED.

This made me pause for a second. To start with, I really never knew what the word "DT" meant in the first place, not until now,

Don't get it twisted. It means Default Trust.

[Hispo]

Eh... Okey explanation and I can appreciate the effort out into this, I would have personally preferred if the Goodness theme was not such a big part of this thread, anyways.
I would have guessed Satoshi had more power within the DT, but I was wrong. I also like how you included a section to highlight those who have fallen off the DT because of the situations they found themselves involved in, I bet there is much drama to unpack in those cases.

So, what does that make me? A descendant? A ghost?

An Avatar. Basically a lesser representation of a true force, a drop of the real power behind your image.
Encourage you to read about the "Avatar of Sargeras" or the antagonist of the video game " Amnesia: Rebirth". If you do not mind spoilers, that is.

[Saisher]

Since we elevate some members here to god-like levels will Theymos add a rank Gods here in Bitcointalk I wonder if Satoshi is watching this thread will he or they like the new label maybe a few more years and we will have a petition for Satoshi to become a saint

Special Mention #1:

Being a demigod doesn't prevent you accomplishing amazing stuff. satoshi is only a half god but he created this universe. Or maybe he used to be a god and decided to give up on his god powers later on. Or maybe he is hiding his real power. We can only make assumptions at this point because nobody has seen him for years. There is so much to be discovered about him. The researchers are doing their job revealing the mysteries which surround him.

[DYING_S0UL]

So, what does that make me? A descendant? A ghost?

a backpack for 🇨🇭

I guess, god clone!   

[mindrust]

it was amusing .

so he equated theymos to xena the warrior princess.

not sure if you watched the 1990’s show.

You probably need to get your eyes checked by a doc, Sir DT1 God. Otherwise people will call you "blind god" in the future. You don't want the name stick on you.

vs

Blink twice if you can see the difference.

[Poker Player]

This is the strangest explanation I hear today.

I agree. And not very true to reality, because it doesn't explain how some gods change from type 1 to type 2 every month, and that some type 2 gods are not type 1 because they have expressly refused to be type 1. Another thing apart is to see how many type 2 gods have more gp according to the OP's terminology than type 1 in the list, and it has to do with the DT lottery and not with any mystical explanation like the OP's, which despite funny is not very accurate.

[LoyceV]

I would have guessed Satoshi had more power within the DT, but I was wrong.

Satoshi doesn't belong on DT: he doesn't have a custom Trust list, and never left any feedback.

I'm not sure if I should even post a serious answer in this topic.

[KingsDen]

Hey!
Is this goddess Lovesmafamilis?

[philipma1957]

it was amusing .

so he equated theymos to xena the warrior princess.

not sure if you watched the 1990’s show.

You probably need to get your eyes checked by a doc, Sir DT1 God. Otherwise people will call you "blind god" in the future. You don't want the name stick on you.

vs

Blink twice if you can see the difference.

Yeah If Xena said yes I would do her.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

DT2 members their power from the gods directly. So unless a DT1 god supports them, they are just peasants, mortals.

I like to think of myself as The Fallen Angel (and dammit, that's what I ought to have changed my username to) rather than some kind of lesser god. 

And boy, after bumping around DT1 and DT2 for years, I'm right back where I started....grateful to have had those god particles thrust upon me and aware of the responsibilities that come with being on either tier of the DT list.  Hopefully new additions to it and future ones realize that there are responsibilities, like keeping a relatively cool head, being conservative when handing out negative trust (and even more conservative with positive trust), and probably other stuff that my muddled mind can't bring to the fore at the moment.

However grateful I am, though, I'm going to keep saying that being on DT isn't what it used to be because of the rotating system.  Don't know if anyone agrees with me on that or if it even matters, but that's how I see it.  DT is dead!  Long live DT!

[PytagoraZ]

~cut~

In my opinion, it is too much to equate God and DT. Yes, I admit that DT has special power over reputation on this forum, perhaps a reasonable synonym is police forum.

~cut~
Yeah If Xena said yes I would do her.

Xena? It seems like an old movie, I'm surprised you still remember the movie

[digaran]

I admit that DT has special power over reputation on this forum, perhaps a reasonable synonym is police forum.

Wrong, and wrong, you can get on DT by acting like a good guy and fooling a few unsuspected, important part is to never make any enemy with any of them, then you are fixed for life, very short though because deception never lasts.

The power they have is only good for display, it lost the meaning the moment they started to use it for personal reasons.
DO NOT under any circumstances, take anyone's words on DT as the factual truth, because that's exactly what those gaming the system want.

Besides, in this forum, there is only 1 certain individual nobody should f with, Yeah the "beast". He mentions his name change a lot, that one.🙃

Rest, they don't even know reputation board exist.
Some, have no problems with anyone, they live natural and honest.
A few, contribute no matter what.
But when you see some of them participate in some discussions, and never engage in another discussion, probably alts.

What does that mean? Well if you operate under a single username/ account, you could be seen all around and everyone would know you, however if you are an alt, you'd only be seen on a very few select topics. (Loki, a fake god of trickery, a shape shifter).😉

[mindrust]

I like to think of myself as The Fallen Angel (and dammit, that's what I ought to have changed my username to) rather than some kind of lesser god.  

I am not sure if that's really what you want. Fallen or not, the prerequisite for being an angel is somewhat...

Here are some known angels of the forum:

1- Hal Finney (The Archangel)
2- TECSHARE
3- Becky666
...

(r.i.p.)

[nutildah]

Idolatry of DT leads to butt hurt, and butt hurt leads to sadness, so don't do it. At this point its mainly just a collection of veteran forum members who are still here and undeterred by the drama and salt (and butt hurt) that comes part and parcel with the "responsibility." There is no magic or "club" feeling to it... We're all just here.

Yeah If Xena said yes I would do her.

Even though I was young when the show was running, I remember watching Xena the Warrior Princess and her making my willy feel tingly, even though I didn't know why it was happening.

[digaran]

Xena... the warrior Princess.....willy.....tingly

I'm not going to comment on your portfolio, but man, you are indeed a gem, I mean spot on every single time. I can't imagine the scene where you are scratching your head confused about the matter. 😂
Seriously though, why is there always stories of wars among mythical gods? Even then they knew more than 1 God can not exist, cause of conflict they'd end up fighting each other instead of being what they are.


Ps, with your permission I modified the quote.

[GazetaBitcoin]

TI really never knew what the word "DT" meant in the first place, not until now, and coming across the meaning for the first time, it now appears scary to me, like it's presented as some sort of secret cult group where there is really some kind of supernatural power purpose by those DTs.
 
It makes it really scary to me, and I think I won't be the only one.

If some users are scared by OP's approach, they can try this one:

3. The Clowns Cartel, also known as "The Car Clowns"
Supreme Leader: unknown
Known members and adulators (wannabees): allegedly, all the DT members or, at least, those close to marlboroza.
Reputation: allegedly, nepotistic, abusive, arbitrary, and destructive to the overall community.
Activity: allegedly, keeping TECSHARE away from DT1.
ANN: none.
First mention: September 10th, 2019, 00:44:36.
Misc: apparently, these gang members like to travel crammed inside a small car. Generally, they have good relations with Cult of Lauda, as some members of the cartel serve also under Lauda.

(However, bear in mind that my description was presented as a pamphlet )

I admit that DT has special power over reputation on this forum, perhaps a reasonable synonym is police forum.

As about forum police I thought it was well known that it is represented by Merit Cycling Club 

I might have to call a forum police after receiving a call that you are having a party at LoyceV place, not wearing protection and not keeping social distancing 

We are the forum police. Thank you for your concern, concerned citizen.

[Fausto Arta]

This is the strangest explanation I hear today. The forum is multinational and many people believe in different opinions and beliefs, so it is better to keep religion away from the explanations. I also think that most religions today are monotheistic, meaning that there is one God that does not need your worship, but rather you are the one who needs.
In general, the descriptions you mentioned are far from explaining how the trust system works.

Some users in DT circles have created a vicious cycle for themselves and their groups. That's not an accusation, but it may be true. I think the OP is exaggerating about the power DT has and this is all very strange to listen to. Worse still, when he deified DT because of the power he had.

[WhyFhy]

I would have guessed Satoshi had more power within the DT, but I was wrong.

Satoshi doesn't belong on DT: he doesn't have a custom Trust list, and never left any feedback.

I'm not sure if I should even post a serious answer in this topic.

If anyone gets a pass it's him though, right? Imagine "if" he came back,
That would be like Jesus walking into a church not allowed to preach and told to take a seat.

[nutildah]

If anyone gets a pass it's him though, right? Imagine "if" he came back,
That would be like Jesus walking into a church not allowed to preach and told to take a seat.

Jesus didn't have a great trust list.



He kept Judas in there even after Judas had betrayed him, because he was into turning the other cheek and all that. As a result, everyone had to live with Judas' shitty trust ratings, until he was eventually voted off DT2, a few hundred years later.


Satoshi's not coming back. Its truly a moot point and there's no reason to have him in your trust list... he was long gone before the trust system even started.

[mrust_mobile]

Satoshi's not coming back. Its truly a moot point and there's no reason to have him in your trust list... he was long gone before the trust system even started.

Heretic.

According to the Bible, satoshi will indeed come back. It is called “the second coming of satoshi”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming

[digaran]

One thing you failed to mention, how did Judas earn more merit than others? Maybe he can start over by changing the name.🤣

[LoyceV]

Satoshi doesn't belong on DT: he doesn't have a custom Trust list, and never left any feedback.

If anyone gets a pass it's him though, right?

Right. There's a reason satoshi has no exclusions to counter those 128 inclusions. If all goes well, those inclusions will still be seen 500 years from now

Imagine "if" he came back,
That would be like Jesus walking into a church not allowed to preach and told to take a seat.

I'd expect satoshi to stay away from the Trust system. Unless he's going to do some Currency exchange, maybe something like 1750BTC for a metric ton of gold. Or just dump a million Forkcoins to annoy them.

[Igebotz]

Jesus didn't have a great trust list.



He kept Judas in there even after Judas had betrayed him, because he was into turning the other cheek and all that. As a result, everyone had to live with Judas' shitty trust ratings, until he was eventually voted off DT2, a few hundred years later.

Nice edit, but not everything should be made into a joke. Disrespect for the Christian community is something I can't explain; it happens on a daily basis and has become the new norm.

Jesus Christ slander on this thread is getting out of hand. Holy shit.

However grateful I am, though, I'm going to keep saying that being on DT isn't what it used to be because of the rotating system.  Don't know if anyone agrees with me on that or if it even matters, but that's how I see it.  DT is dead!  Long live DT!

I disagree with you--DT is still alive and well! The corrupt oldies who have manipulated the DT for a long period are losing DT strength and are leaving the DT. The new DT era is here.

[mrust_mobile]

Holy shit.

Amen brother.

See you at the church of satoshi.

[LoyceV]

Nice edit

It could be better, now the colors are all wrong. It should have been: +0 / =0 / -12.

[Igebotz]

Nice edit

It could be better, now the colors are all wrong. It should have been: +0 / =0 / -12.

We can all agree that God works in mysterious ways; after all, he blinded his eyes from picking the correct colour, right?  

Reality check: Not all 12 deciples distrusted Juda after he beytraed Jesus Christ. He was forgiven.

See you at the church of satoshi.

Satoshi is somewhere with his gangs chilling on an island with his folkcoins with so many girls in bikini.

[nutildah]

According to the Bible, satoshi will indeed come back. It is called “the second coming of satoshi”

Yeah well we've been waiting over 2000 years for that first comeback so...

One thing you failed to mention, how did Judas earn more merit than others?

A lot of Romans were visiting the forum after Jesus left.

Nice edit, but not everything should be made into a joke.

I fundamentally disagree. Everything should be able to be made into a joke. So long as its funny.

"People say rape's not funny, you can't joke about rape. Well I'll prove you wrong: imagine Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd." - George Carlin. If you don't know him, look him up. And Porky Pig and Elmer Fudd if necessary.

It could be better, now the colors are all wrong. It should have been: +0 / =0 / -12.

Dammit Loyce, you coax merits out of me, I don't want to give them to you but I have to.

[Igebotz]

Nice edit, but not everything should be made into a joke.

I fundamentally disagree. Everything should be able to be made into a joke. So long as its funny.

"People say rape's not funny, you can't joke about rape. Well I'll prove you wrong: imagine Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd." - George Carlin. If you don't know him, look him up. And Porky Pig and Elmer Fudd if necessary.

And I'm yet to see anyone make joke of Muhammed either good or bad and not get punished.

A man sentenced ten years for Muhammed joke

Everything shouldn't be made into joke IMO.

[Hispo]

I would have guessed Satoshi had more power within the DT, but I was wrong.

Satoshi doesn't belong on DT: he doesn't have a custom Trust list, and never left any feedback.

I'm not sure if I should even post a serious answer in this topic.

Why not? There are always good occasions to learn something new about this forum, so do not feel discouraged neither by my ignorance or the topic of this thread. I have been around here for almost 3 years and yet, there is still a lot to learn about Bitcoin and it's origins.

Even when everyone is fooling around and throwing memes, it does not mean we cannot learn something.   
Perhaps, me having a custom trust list does not mean I fully understand the mechanisms being it, obviously...