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November 28, 2023, 04:57:23 PM
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Recently I observed that symmetric, formerly known as Ratimov fell out of love with some of the forum activities. I do not know why because he didn't make any thread to why.

I just observed the name change and it will interesting to know what is the real reason behind it. Honestly if I not read your thread I would never recognize him.

I also know he had two threads which helped newbies and other ranks close to the next rank with upto 25 to 50 merits.
Re: Helping Potential Legendary, Hero, Senior and Full Members (May 2023 Update)
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This thread was so much helpful because it was the fast way to get promotion at the time when you get very close to achieve next rank. He helped many quality posters who deserve more Merit but sometimes due to limited system of Merit and number of users couldn't achieve next rank with ease.

I know people are missing the kind gesture already but they might be afraid to speak up not to get into troubles.

The reason for this thread is plead with any merit source to re-start a similar thread. I have seen some merit sources who say they don't exhaust their merit allocation. Such a thread could help ease their merit distribution stress and also serve as a reference point where other merit sources could look into to spray some merits.


Yes I support and wish someone start new thread with same rules which benefits the member just close to next rank. I am so far from next as I ranked up to Hero some week ago. symmetric helped me when I closed to full member. He awarded our local members with 15-25 merit. Currently Meriting local board best posts is also locked and I think Merit source should pay attention to it. The main goal is to encourage member upon quality posting. When there is any thread which award quality posts , I hope we will see more quality poster.

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November 28, 2023, 05:51:26 PM
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He needs a break?
I don't think he needs a break. If you feel he needs a break, what would you say to other merit source? They need a vacation? Common, everyone of them (merit sources) choose to take that responsibility to serve the public (at least to merit any quality post) of being a merit source and they know the pressure that comes with it so I don't really think I'd agree with you on what you said about Ratimov needing a break.
Yes he might need a break but not by shutting down what he has already started, something isn't right.
We all have our ways of processing things when we get overwhelmed by them and you can agree with me that Ratimov seemed to have come under a lot of pressure lately and coupled with how tasking and demanding trying to meet up with merit requests, probably he just felt that zoning out would be a better option. I dunno.

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November 28, 2023, 06:24:24 PM
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He needs a break?
I don't think he needs a break. If you feel he needs a break, what would you say to other merit source? They need a vacation? Common, everyone of them (merit sources) choose to take that responsibility to serve the public (at least to merit any quality post) of being a merit source and they know the pressure that comes with it so I don't really think I'd agree with you on what you said about Ratimov needing a break.
Yes he might need a break but not by shutting down what he has already started, something isn't right.
We all have our ways of processing things when we get overwhelmed by them and you can agree with me that Ratimov seemed to have come under a lot of pressure lately and coupled with how tasking and demanding trying to meet up with merit requests, probably he just felt that zoning out would be a better option. I dunno.

I don't think that's the main reason why he entered ghost mode. Nobody's giving him pressure when it comes to the merit aspect, I have this feeling that there's something we really don't know that went down because how can he just lock a thread that has been on for years without any better reason... Even when he's online he's not like he was... Well let's see if there'll be any changes.

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November 28, 2023, 08:28:52 PM
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Ratimov is actually a generous giver as I know and has helped lots of people without undermining whether such person is from their locals or not, but the past hit on him made him remain muted for long now and has no strength to involved himself in any activities including merits distribution. But no need to panicked as time goes we often have some people who are always with enough merits to offload but sometimes they are too occupied to do that and all they need is to have spare time to go through everyone post to give out merits. I can see they have already listed lots of thread that talks about what you are requesting so there's no need to be extremely worried because I know whenever you have a quality post you will surely be merited even though you didn't report your post to anyone. I don't know if The Skeptical chemist is still doing post review but you can find out more details on his thread to know as well then you may submitted to him also.

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November 28, 2023, 10:19:25 PM
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there are other merit sources that have their own way of distributing their merits example is The Sceptical Chymist who prefers PM for personal review<snip>
SHH.

I haven't "fallen out of love" with doing post history reviews, nor have I gone the route of Ratimov but as of late I've been up to my ass in alligators in real life and my motivation for doing them has dropped dramatically.  I'm hoping that 'ol mojo will come back soon, but right now I've got a queue of members who've PMed me and for who I still need to reviews.  I haven't paused my offer, but just know that any new requests are going to be in for a long-ish wait time.

Sometimes doing stuff like this is a pain in the ass.  I suspect that's why you don't see more merit sources doing giveaways and the like.

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November 28, 2023, 11:44:23 PM
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Sometimes doing stuff like this is a pain in the ass.  I suspect that's why you don't see more merit sources doing giveaways and the like.

Yes, that's true the work you and some other merit sources are doing is a really tough work and I really appreciate the work that you and a few other merit sources are doing for the other members of the forum. There are many members who make good quality posts but still don't get enough merits and I believe that such members can get great help for the effort they are putting in their posts.

I must say that the your post review thing is still unique and has been quite helpful for many members. You have been very helpful with your post review history thread and I believe that only a few people can dedicate their time to review others posts and reward them merits for their contribution.

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November 28, 2023, 11:59:17 PM
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Recently I observed that symmetric, formerly known as Ratimov fell out of love with some of the forum activities. I do not know why because he didn't make any thread to why.
I also know he had two threads which helped newbies and other ranks close to the next rank with upto 25 to 50 merits.
Re: Helping Potential Legendary, Hero, Senior and Full Members (May 2023 Update)
[Merit] Help newbies and those who have a little left to the next rank

Although I haven't benefited from any of the threads because it wasn't difficult for me to get my first 100 merits. Going to senior member, my movement is as slow as a snail and that reminds me that I will be needing a help at some points and likewise other low rank members.
I know people are missing the kind gesture already but they might be afraid to speak up not to get into troubles.

The reason for this thread is plead with any merit source to re-start a similar thread. I have seen some merit sources who say they don't exhaust their merit allocation. Such a thread could help ease their merit distribution stress and also serve as a reference point where other merit sources could look into to spray some merits.


I don't think it's a good option to speak up like this, not offend you OP but merit sources have thier own way of giving merits and also there are many good merit source still watching some other users and if they gonna like your post then they will give some merits.
Also like what other said above there are many threads who are still active for giving such merits all you need us to explore the forum and find those one.
Op we can't beg for merits so let us make a good post in order to receive one so Op nothing gonna happen about this thread sorry but no offend OP.

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November 29, 2023, 08:22:32 AM
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I have my own merit distribution thread.
I am using it when my merit bag start growing too much.
Lately I am on a constant low level of merits, I found myself dry of merits for a few days, so I have been slacking on that thread.
I am sorry a merit source gave up sending merits, yet I feel the forum has plenty of opportunities for a good post to be noticed.

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November 29, 2023, 02:39:50 PM
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It makes all sense if other merit sources could continue where @Symmetric stops this work, open their own or be sure to be regularly visiting that thread to help the growing users. I am one of the last sets that was helped by him and I am very happy about this, which is one of the reasons why agree with you on the suggestion as merits for some people who are even good posters are not easy to come by.

As for Symmetric, I hope all is well with him, the behaviour is so unusual to the point that he stopped his paying campaign. All I noticed was that there were many attacks on his person prior to the change of attitude. To be angry is normal, but as a man, we should know that emotion is a weakness and the ability to overcome annoyance goes a long way.

I wish him all the best and hope he will be back to his usual!

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November 29, 2023, 05:11:54 PM
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I have my own merit distribution thread.
I am using it when my merit bag start growing too much.
Lately I am on a constant low level of merits, I found myself dry of merits for a few days, so I have been slacking on that thread.
I am sorry a merit source gave up sending merits, yet I feel the forum has plenty of opportunities for a good post to be noticed.
Why could all this happen?
Even though I saw in your thread, you often help beginners and even seniors.
Sorry if I'm being presumptuous, I don't fully understand the rules of this forum and how it works.

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Those threads were very helpful to a lot of members on this forum as they quickly got a complete merit to rank up. Despite that, I was not a beneficiary of those threads, but I can tell how it helped most members rank up. But now that the thread is not functional any more due to reasons best known by the OP, there are yet other threads by other merit sources that you or other newbies can still apply for and get their complete merit to rank up. According to your question, OP, there are still other exiting threads that merit sources are using to award merit to members, so I don't feel any merit source will yet want to start a new thread. I am not saying they won't if they want to, but I know and I hope you understand that among the active merit sources we have on the forum, not all of them have a merit thread, but yet they still have their own pattern for distributing their merit.

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It is better for merit sources to just go around and look at topics and try to dump their merits where they see fit instead of calling everyone (including spammers / alt-accounts and such people) to their own thread. That is the approach which I use, and it is not like Ratimov is the only merit source on this forum anyway.
It's going to sound absolutely hypocritical of me to say this, but I agree with you 100%.  But if I went that route and just merited good posts I just happened to stumble upon, I'd never get rid of my sMerit stash.  That's important to me (even though I'm failing miserably at the moment), because circulating merits keeps the whole thing going--and believe me when I tell you that creating the merit system was a genius move on Theymos's part, and one that I owe part of my sanity to.  

If you make people come to you for merits, you just have to be able to say no to shitposters when you see them.  I've had to reject so many requests for post reviews, it'd make your head spin.  I don't know if Ratimov needs a break or what, but he definitely kept those merits flowing.  If he decides to become much less active as a merit source as a result of all this drama, it might be a bit of a problem.

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I also know he had two threads which helped newbies and other ranks close to the next rank with upto 25 to 50 merits.
Re: Helping Potential Legendary, Hero, Senior and Full Members (May 2023 Update)
[Merit] Help newbies and those who have a little left to the next rank
It is true that such topics help encourage newbies. Roll Eyes However, I would say that there are more important topics that need to be created than recreating these. Because already many have mentioned that many members have already taken this same objective and their topic is still running.
I think creating this topic (Ratimov's Forum Guides, Tutorials & Lists) is more important than the topics you mentioned, not only this topic but also all the tutorial lists of this topic are very important for beginners. Smiley I don't know about the internals why he blanked them out but I think they need to be re-created by anyone, maybe it's the op(rati) himself?
By the way did Ratimov change his name to Symmetrick? Tongue

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December 04, 2023, 07:38:28 AM
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I don't know about the internals why he blanked them out [...]

You can read an explanation here: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?. Or, a sum-up here.

By the way did Ratimov change his name to Symmetrick? Tongue

Yes. His last trick before exiting the stage.

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I'm not quite sure if that is necessary as there are many threads as similar as the one ratimov had. For example we have hugeblack, LoyceV, fillippone who have their own thread for merit distribution. Of course, it is encouraged to to merit, deserving posts and everyone has different way of meriting. Some prefer it as posted as a thread, some prefer it as manually reading every comment. Can't judge it really. Even before ratimov became a merit source, other sources distributed merits and after the incident of ratimov, merits are still being distributed. So I don't see any problem here. Having one thread deletes doesn't effect the forum much. Don't you think so? Again new ideas and thoughts are always encouraged.

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I'm not quite sure if that is necessary as there are many threads as similar as the one ratimov had. For example we have hugeblack, LoyceV, fillippone who have their own thread for merit distribution. Of course, it is encouraged to to merit, deserving posts and everyone has different way of meriting. Some prefer it as posted as a thread, some prefer it as manually reading every comment. Can't judge it really. Even before ratimov became a merit source, other sources distributed merits and after the incident of ratimov, merits are still being distributed. So I don't see any problem here. Having one thread deletes doesn't effect the forum much. Don't you think so? Again new ideas and thoughts are always encouraged.

You are right; if a post deserves an award, it will be noticed. But lately, the topics where posts are sent for verification by merit sources resemble a school or university, where students submit their posts, like tests or even a thesis.

Aren't we on a forum just to discuss Bitcoin? We force merit sources to read undervalued posts while other users pass by them. If the post is good in itself, then everyone will see it. Why direct someone's eyes there?

It doesn't seem entirely sincere. The forum is designed for simple communication; however, we want every word to have a price.
Or else, if users do not rate posts, does that mean no one reads anything?

Sometimes you see a user whose merits come only from the source of merit. It turns out that it is only good for one person.
And still, we will be disingenuous when we say that people gathered on the forum only out of great love for crypto and not for the sake of ranks.

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Sometimes you see a user whose merits come only from the source of merit. It turns out that it is only good for one person.

This is a good point and something I will look at more in the future.
Your position is sensible, yet, many users could be discouraged posting, without seeing their post being noticed, which isn't good either.
For this balance, I propose my review for the users who might feel more rewarded by a merit, rather than the pure joy of sharing their toughs.

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Aren't we on a forum just to discuss Bitcoin? We force merit sources to read undervalued posts while other users pass by them. If the post is good in itself, then everyone will see it. Why direct someone's eyes there?

It doesn't seem entirely sincere. The forum is designed for simple communication; however, we want every word to have a price.
Or else, if users do not rate posts, does that mean no one reads anything?


I don't think the problem is with missing @Ratimov as much as it is in the method of distributing merits. Ratimov way of sending merits to users who have a little left to the next rank means that you will easily get 10 to 50 merits once you reach 90% of merits requirements, which is different Of the majority who either review post/topic individually or send 1-5 merits.

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~sending merits to users who have a little left to the next rank means that you will easily get 10 to 50 merits once you reach 90% of merits requirements, which is different Of the majority who either review post/topic individually or send 1-5 merits.
Show me 50 users with good English (or Dutch) posts) who need 10 to 50 Merit to reach their next rank, and I'll bump them up. But I don't have the time to read through users' post histories.

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December 05, 2023, 08:01:58 AM
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I don't think that's the main reason why he entered ghost mode.
Pray tell us why? You seem to know a lot from all indications so you can tell us why he left?. Anyways, I won't drag the matter out of context  because it seems the Op wants another merit source to continue Ratimov's good work and honestly, I quite agree.
 
 Just like others have helpfully supplied, there's many threads where merit sources are doling out merits to good posts and to be frank, they are doing a good job to make one forget that Ratimov has been MIA. So if I were to suggest to the Op, I'd say you make use of them and let Ratimov's thread be.

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