Royse777 will not pay anyone for the last week /Sinbad campaign/

[digaran]

No onion links, you will get banned, feds haven't left yet.  You guys starting too soon to resume the usual operations.😅

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[dkbit98]

I mean, neither of those are smart things to do but I am curious how deep Binance actually goes in their investigation.

They are probably going very deep with investigations now, since they had to pay big fines recently and CZ was almost arrested, but he probably made a deal to pay over $4 billion.
I don't understand people who are still using centralized exchanges, they can always ask you this questions and freeze your account even if you have virgin-like coins.
Anyway, I would not blame Royse for this decision, he is in tricky place right now.

That's not Sinbad mixing address but the address Royse777 is paying participants from.

It is a problem if he is controlling keys for that address, but they probably added it because of connection with original sinbad address.

[Woodie]

Hope this isn't some collateral damage aimed at hurting Royse777 reputation with what Haas happened with Sin, but with the communication given this isn't only done to protect Sig participants especially that this has been a long running campaign meaning identities could easily be uncovered from these KYC compliant exchanges as it's expected that some of these coins ended up there..and already exchanges such as Binance have an interest in any transactions that have interacted with that Sig escrow address.

Check screenshot shared by Binance affected user    

Tbh I think this is a bold decision taken by CM to seek best recourse as coins received could affect users legally in the real world, and to minimise the damage best to get legal advice from a cybersecurity lawyer or something before payments go out ...

[light_warrior]

No onion links, you will get banned, feds haven't left yet.  You guys starting too soon to resume the usual operations.😅

Is it that you can't post onion links on the forum? Where did this information come from? Can I have a link to this information where you read this, please. Because, for example, in this thread there are onion links to mixers. Is OP threatened with a ban if he doesn't remove these links from his thread?

[JeromeTash]

If he is concerned about the safety of others, just let each campaign participant send a new Bitcoin address to which the debt will be paid.

So you think it's just a matter of creating new addresses and sending funds in there? Then you must be dumber than I think you are.
The escrow address is already on the watch list, the outputs will probably be under watch as well. The law enforcement will be trying to look for every possible link to the creator Sinbad. This is a real life situation not some movie or fantasy

No onion links, you will get banned, feds haven't left yet.  You guys starting too soon to resume the usual operations.😅

Is it that you can't post onion links on the forum? Where did this information come from? Can I have a link to this information where you read this, please. Because, for example, in this thread there are onion links to mixers. Is OP threatened with a ban if he doesn't remove these links from his thread?

He probably didn't understand what Theymos posted.

[Mate2237]

Op this thread was not to be created if really you were following up the discussion in the defunct Sinbad Signature Campaign thread. And the warning was not only from Royse777 but from other people to steer clear. Op it's like you prefer your to be tannish because of money more than having a good name. This is a clear case both the forum and outside the forum that Sinbad mixing company was used for money laundering and all those participants received money from the escrow address were suspected and Binance sent them messages to clear themselves by filling a special KYC form and here you are saying that Royse777 should use the money that is in his possession to pay the workers.

Yes the money is with and that is the fact but he can pay the participants because of the case for now. And he said it in the campaign thread before closing and locking the thread.

[FinneysTrueVision]

The escrow address for the campaign is under sanctions and anybody interacting with it could face legal problems. The last thing forum users want is to be subjected to privacy invasive interrogations simply for writing some mundane posts on BitcoinTalk whenever they try to transfer their funds. Some might feel like participants deserve compensation for their efforts but it should not come at the expense of the manager who risks legal problems if they knowingly violate sanctions.

What I don't understand though is whether those who got asked by Binance to explain their connection with that address used Binance to deposit their signature campaign earnings, or they first got money on their own non-custodial wallets and then moved it to Binance?

I mean, neither of those are smart things to do but I am curious how deep Binance actually goes in their investigation.

At least 7 people were receiving campaign earnings directly to their Binance account.
https://platform.arkhamintelligence.com/explorer/tx/bf0ba9d8a31df0c39e7114d767761c8b9c6bd48ae93ed69982363b7a54be99b9

[stompix]

That's not Sinbad mixing address but the address Royse777 is paying participants from.

It is a problem if he is controlling keys for that address, but they probably added it because of connection with original sinbad address.

And that's the real problem, the fact that they posted it whiteout checking what it means, so we have two things right now
- some funds that are ( as far as I know) in Royse777 control that came from sinbad, with which he can choose to do whatever he wants, return it, send them to OLAF, screw the entire forum by sending dust to each posted address <<< seriously don't do this !!!
- an address has already go labeled as dirty, and this s*** won't get fixed, it simply won't
I've seen bad AML bots flagging exchanges addresses as bad, casino payments address as suspicious and so on,  once this will spread everything that came into contact that address will become "suspicious" for these morons, so if it hasn't happened already (unsure about that screenshot someone posted) some might find themselves in trouble maybe tomorrow or in 6 months from now if they will deal with a CEX that is using one of those stupid tools.

So my advice for participants would be to try to clean whatever coins have been already received and not spent a bit before sending them to any business, and retire the address you've used to get payments till now, might sound like fearmongering to some but I'm just saying how I see things from my perspective.

[suzanne5223]

After going through this thread^[1] I just realized that you’re not actually interested in the campaign participants getting their money instead you want to make Royse777 look like a scammer. Because I don’t see why anyone who’s in his right state of mind would create this type of thread despite all that is happening right now.

You’re not a part of the campaign neither do you have any thing to do with the project so why hurry to post this thread?

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468985.0

The user that could create this thread will be someone that's that's after Royse777 because none of the campaign participants complain of the BTC in the escrow wallet why would a user that's barely active will create a topic about the issue that the forum member are watching closely not mention about the DT member that's among the campaign participants.

[Stalker22]

The user that could create this thread will be someone that's that's after Royse777 because none of the campaign participants complain of the BTC in the escrow wallet why would a user that's barely active will create a topic about the issue that the forum member are watching closely not mention about the DT member that's among the campaign participants.

It didnt cross your mind that this could be someone involved with the campaign but just didnt wanna use his main account to talk about this touchy subject?  I feel like that makes a heck of a lot more sense than assuming some random guy decided to open a topic on something that dont really concern him.

[Onyeeze]

Royse777 will not pay anyone for the last week, but the Sinbad Bitcoins will still be in his possession.

If this manager does not pay the participants of the campaign, then one of the participants should bring charges of fraud against him. Otherwise, on what basis does he decide for others what and to whom to do with his payments? If he is concerned about the safety of others, just let each campaign participant send a new Bitcoin address to which the debt will be paid.

People, do you want your money to be kept by Royse777? Just because he cares about you.

The case is serious and I am considering not to touch any funds that is in the escrow address right now unless I speak to a lawyer. This means no one is going to receive anymore payments unless I have a direction from the lawyer. It's for the safety of everyone.

Is members of sinbad.io campaign not aware of the issues that is happening between sinbad.io and law enforcement agencies currently, so what I stand to tell you is that Royse can only pay participate whenever every thing is settled and if sinbad.io remember to her participants, because right nobody will question royse or lay any accusations for not paying the participants because is not his fault, its the fault of the company and its open, according what I read concerning chipmixer, when the issues of chipmixer came I believe that chipmixer did not participants that week and even now, because the participants have seen with their naked eyes the company had issues with government, so any campaign manager is being hired as you who is a participant is being hired by a campaign manager, you being a campaign manager doesn't mean that you are a staff of their company, all of you is being hired, that is what I want some of you to understand

[pakhitheboss]

But he has a point, he meant the participants need to use new address and they can trade it through no KYC P2P or DEX without link your identity (if the previous Bitcoin address is linked with CEX or your identity).

Yes, that’s exactly what I was talking about.

From where do you want the campaign manager to pay the participants? Escrow address cannot be handled anymore due to the email being sent to few participants from Binance. If an exchange is sending email asking for clarification then it means the investigating team has reached them for information. Until everything has been sorted out it is better not to touch that wallet. You guys cannot blame the manager or pressurize him for payment as it is not his fault.

[digaran]

I'm not going to discuss religion and morality here, but a simple fact, because you guys refuse to understand, that address is marked for holding illegally obtained coins, AKA stolen coins, so anyone here talking about getting paid with that money, deserves a negative trust, anyone touching that money by sending it to anyone other than law enforcements, also deserves a negative trust. You can not so blatantly talk about getting paid with a money which belongs to someone else, on a clear net forum, if anyone decides to do that, should get tagged accordingly to show the LE, that we do not condone such behaviour and anyone promoting such behaviour does not represent this community.

Criminal and freedom fighter is not the same, unfortunately I know that people here depend on such payments, and that brings tear to my eyes, but you should really stop discussing this. Just think about this:

If one day you say hey instead of Hello and someone feels offended, they will find your post here and use it to punish you, this is a normal bitch making tactic used here, BEWARE!😂

[LoyceV]

The problem lies with he fact that on the indictment you have this:
https://ofac.treasury.gov/recent-actions/20231129

http://sinbadiovklgdbafpqvwfwjh2tfrisahtxmrskiovt62nirragcnkcad.onion;

Email Address support@sinbad.io; alt. Email Address adv@sinbad.io;
Digital Currency Address - XBT bc1qq7p0es3dv5hcynjjf40f2xjjr6qp5py47d2f6n847vduuq9gvnyq7y9ecd; alt.
Digital Currency Address - XBT 1JHdQHkBZiim1cb4hyUh2PbzEbbg6z2TrF; Secondary sanctions risk:

I'm surprised they don't have more Bitcoin addresses on that list.

Is it that you can't post onion links on the forum?

No. You can't post links to illegal services and you'll get banned if you try to bypass "http://[directing people to darknet sites is not allowed].onion/" (for instance by adding a dot in between the URL).

[tbct_mt2]

At least 7 people were receiving campaign earnings directly to their Binance account.
https://platform.arkhamintelligence.com/explorer/tx/bf0ba9d8a31df0c39e7114d767761c8b9c6bd48ae93ed69982363b7a54be99b9

1 address is Kucoin exchange deposit address.

CFTC said that the case of Binance is just the beginning. CFTC says access to US customers 'is a privilege, not a right,' in aggressive case against Binance that is only just getting started.

Kucoin is one of exchanges that has advantage from Binance legal issues, but do they learn from this and do the same like Binance to flag the sanctioned address?

I guess they will do it.

[NotATether]

CFTC said that the case of Binance is just the beginning. CFTC says access to US customers 'is a privilege, not a right,' in aggressive case against Binance that is only just getting started.

US customers buying and selling crypto is a privilege, not a right?

Think of it that way, not in the way they phrase it for exchanges.

If all exchanges cut their service for US customers, what will be left for them? I guess Coinbase (with their shady IRS fondling techniques) stays regardless? But even they want to move their headquarters elsewhere.

So much for "We're the leading edge of crypto innovation".

[Shishir99]

Who the fuck are you? You are not here to help anyone. You are here to ruin someone's reputation and this is not the first time. Aren't you the one who send Pm to his clients and asks not to hire him because he was part of a casino? Aren't you the one who was crying after Royse left you negative feedback? You are not helping yourself by doing this. It's ovbious why you are doing this. Now, If you create another thread for any legitimate reason, people won't give you a fuck because they know you are just an attention seeker.

[PytagoraZ]

Royse777 will not pay anyone for the last week, but the Sinbad Bitcoins will still be in his possession.

If this manager does not pay the participants of the campaign, then one of the participants should bring charges of fraud against him. Otherwise, on what basis does he decide for others what and to whom to do with his payments? If he is concerned about the safety of others, just let each campaign participant send a new Bitcoin address to which the debt will be paid.

People, do you want your money to be kept by Royse777? Just because he cares about you.

The case is serious and I am considering not to touch any funds that is in the escrow address right now unless I speak to a lawyer. This means no one is going to receive anymore payments unless I have a direction from the lawyer. It's for the safety of everyone.

You are entitled to +1000 merit for this post.

If you want, you can take my payment in this campaign. Or maybe part of all the campaign participants. I just saw someone who hates too much like you, you are really talking nonsense

[Orpichukwu]

You are entitled to +1000 merit for this post.

If you want, you can take my payment in this campaign. Or maybe part of all the campaign participants. I just saw someone who hates too much like you, you are really talking nonsense

Hate is far from what I sense here, unless the users have some past dealing with the said manager. If not, what I sense here is trying to buy favors from people who are in the campaign, making it look as if he states a fire. People are not aware of, when there is literally nothing hidden in there, and when they see the post members will be like „fvck, yes, this dude has a point.“ Why did I not even think about such things? Let me encourage him with some merit. Boom at the OPs side, mission accomplished, but. 
 
Or maybe the Op' have an alt account which is in Royse campaign which is the escrow address is no longer save and can't pay his employees from there but he is not bold enough to start a case their because he don't know what the outcome will be, for someone who don't really understand the gravity of mess they might get their self involved in if they get paid from that address

[Synchronice]

Do you read above message just above Royse778 message you have mentioned? Some user included me, received message from Binance that we recieved fund from Sinbad signature Escrow address and we have to give cleanliness that from where we recieved fund and what is our relationship with address owner. It can result to seizing of users fund so What Royse is doing is best for community.

Seriously, you promoted a bitcoin mixer and were depositing money from your wallet to Binance? At least you could try to exchange BTC into monero and deposit on Binance (Biannce accepts Monero deposits) or just convert into another altcoin. 1-2% fee is nothing when it comes to your privacy and protection. I know it's late to say this and I am not here to blame you or judge you, just keep in mind this in future.

Regardless it's to save the participants or not, but he as a campaign manager need to take care with himself because if the government want to catch anyone that associated with Sinbad, he could be the first target, then the participants. The participants need to understand about that, except there's a participant ask the payment.

That's a really good question. Campaign manager is in touch with the mixer owner (or representator), they could possibly become the target of investigation but Darkstar didn't have any problem after chipmixer accident as far as it looks.

By the way, escrow funds were in Monero and then converted into Bitcoins by manager, it would be better for everyone's safety, I think.

so anyone here talking about getting paid with that money, deserves a negative trust

They don't deserve negative trust for this!

anyone touching that money by sending it to anyone other than law enforcements, also deserves a negative trust

I agree with you on this part.
Now this situation makes me think that anyone can worsen your life by sending you some free bitcoins from tagged address, right? If I were a participant of Sinbad campaign, I could ruin your life by sending coins to you from my address? Oh my god, das ist Scheiße.

If one day you say hey instead of Hello and someone feels offended, they will find your post here and use it to punish you, this is a normal bitch making tactic used here, BEWARE!😂

Do what's right and have a clean past, then no one will be able to use anything from your past against you, it's easy, right?
I know you said something same about yourself in another thread, I don't know your issue well, so don't take it personally.