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November 30, 2023, 07:24:09 PM
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I have a developer who recently stumbled on multiple AI he uses for sport betting predictions, he uses it to generate sport bettings but none of the bets gets to be accurate as it generates tens of games. but when used to generate a much lesser number of games the predictions are sometimes  correct, at least 3 in 10 predictions of "multiple" bets.

But he loves having 30+ games "multiple" bet to win big amount and so far it has been a challenge in the last 5-6 weeks as his winnings have drastically dropped.


Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?

The number of positive results that you mentioned here are not very helpful as there is a huge difference in the odds and how AI would respond to whatever data it pulls. If it was 3 in 10 predictions and it was 3 games with a favorite who had odds of 1.1, I doubt that AI is needed to make good predictions at all...

But something else that came to my mind is about the 30+ games. Does that make any sense? I like multibets as well sometimes, but I don't know whether I had ever more than 10 or so. How would it still be enjoyable if you have 20 correct outcomes and then still have at least 10 to go? And I wonder how often he got one of those 30+ multis correct. I can't know of course, but I doubt it.

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November 30, 2023, 07:37:48 PM
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The number of positive results that you mentioned here are not very helpful as there is a huge difference in the odds and how AI would respond to whatever data it pulls. If it was 3 in 10 predictions and it was 3 games with a favorite who had odds of 1.1, I doubt that AI is needed to make good predictions at all...

But something else that came to my mind is about the 30+ games. Does that make any sense? I like multibets as well sometimes, but I don't know whether I had ever more than 10 or so. How would it still be enjoyable if you have 20 correct outcomes and then still have at least 10 to go? And I wonder how often he got one of those 30+ multis correct. I can't know of course, but I doubt it.

I believe the answer here is already very obvious. 3 out of 10 in multi-bet? It means you are on the losing side.
So better trust your instincts and bet on the sports you really know and very familiar of.
What more with 30+games, the chance of winning is very small in this case. Maybe try single bet, maybe you have better chance.
Because if the winning percentage is low, it means, you don't want to trust AI with your multi-bet. You can easily go bankrupt in this route.
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November 30, 2023, 07:39:22 PM
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Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?
No!, never relied on AI just for sports betting because I've never tried it.

It may give some options including giving statistical details about the teams that will compete but the results will not determine the right choice and I don't know how the AI works to choose many betting options? Does it explain everything about the most likely win?

I myself do more sports betting so far the results of my own analysis are still used because we know AI will not be accurate for a choice.

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November 30, 2023, 08:01:50 PM
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Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?

Artificial intelligence makes predictions based on available information on the internet and some data are not reliable. These AI tools are unreliable because they are machines and programmed by imperfect humans. There might be cases when these tools could make accurate predictions but I think it is just based on luck or trial and error. Most of these tools have been tested and they proved to show a lower level of intelligence than humans. It will be better to to rely on human intelligence than to put trust in machines.

In the long run, AI will not help, the casino will have the advantage of the house edge. You can use AI for other things in gambling, but not prediction because AI is not that better than knowledge humans in gambling.

Maybe in the future, we might have supper computers that can predict games accurately just as weather conditions are predicted. But until we get to that level, humans will continue to be the best game predicters. AI might be accurate in the educational field but as for gambling, it is still below standard.

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November 30, 2023, 08:12:38 PM
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I have a developer who recently stumbled on multiple AI he uses for sport betting predictions, he uses it to generate sport bettings but none of the bets gets to be accurate as it generates tens of games. but when used to generate a much lesser number of games the predictions are sometimes  correct, at least 3 in 10 predictions of "multiple" bets.

But he loves having 30+ games "multiple" bet to win big amount and so far it has been a challenge in the last 5-6 weeks as his winnings have drastically dropped.


Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?

In sports betting we are talking about probabilities and algorithms, so there is no way to be accurate enough to have a 100% chance, even with the help of technology such as AI.

And if what we are looking for, and what we pursue in doing sports betting is profit, then someone will try at all costs, the most important thing is that he can get a win, including using AI in making predictions. Personally, when I talk about betting, I'm talking about a hobby, and regardless of winning and losing, what I want when I do sports betting is fun and thrill. So if we use AI to make match predictions, I don't think that's the best way for us to enjoy betting. When we get a win and it's the result of our own predictions, the thrill and excitement of getting it is very different.

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November 30, 2023, 08:26:07 PM
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I have a developer who recently stumbled on multiple AI he uses for sport betting predictions, he uses it to generate sport bettings but none of the bets gets to be accurate as it generates tens of games. but when used to generate a much lesser number of games the predictions are sometimes  correct, at least 3 in 10 predictions of "multiple" bets.

But he loves having 30+ games "multiple" bet to win big amount and so far it has been a challenge in the last 5-6 weeks as his winnings have drastically dropped.


Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?

Any AI that I have used or better the ChatGPT as that the only thing I have used told me with a simple answer,"Sorry I cannot make any such predictions.I recommend you visit these sites" and it gave me about 5-6 sites of prediction and news about sport betting,I knew them all before the AI told me to visit them so I was not that impressed with ChatGPT with this topic.

That developer should make a good deed to the community and to make that AI public and why not open source so anyone can contribute to it and let's see if people from the open source which for me are the most talented can bring it to another level,the level of showing us at least 50% correct predictions and then it depends on us to divide the betting amount to be in profit  Grin.

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November 30, 2023, 08:31:59 PM
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I have a developer who recently stumbled on multiple AI he uses for sport betting predictions, he uses it to generate sport bettings but none of the bets gets to be accurate as it generates tens of games. but when used to generate a much lesser number of games the predictions are sometimes  correct, at least 3 in 10 predictions of "multiple" bets.

But he loves having 30+ games "multiple" bet to win big amount and so far it has been a challenge in the last 5-6 weeks as his winnings have drastically dropped.


Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?

Any AI that I have used or better the ChatGPT as that the only thing I have used told me with a simple answer,"Sorry I cannot make any such predictions.I recommend you visit these sites" and it gave me about 5-6 sites of prediction and news about sport betting,I knew them all before the AI told me to visit them so I was not that impressed with ChatGPT with this topic.

That developer should make a good deed to the community and to make that AI public and why not open source so anyone can contribute to it and let's see if people from the open source which for me are the most talented can bring it to another level,the level of showing us at least 50% correct predictions and then it depends on us to divide the betting amount to be in profit  Grin.
That kind of AI is not the correct one for the job you are giving it, as its name heavily implies ChatGPT and other similar AI are designed to imitate the way another human will speak to you, it is not really designed to make some intricate calculations about the possibility of a team beating another one, and at best it could just give to you the predictions other people are making, without knowing for sure if the predictions are any good or not.
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I have a developer who recently stumbled on multiple AI he uses for sport betting predictions, he uses it to generate sport bettings but none of the bets gets to be accurate as it generates tens of games. but when used to generate a much lesser number of games the predictions are sometimes  correct, at least 3 in 10 predictions of "multiple" bets.

But he loves having 30+ games "multiple" bet to win big amount and so far it has been a challenge in the last 5-6 weeks as his winnings have drastically dropped.


Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?
Its never been reliable on the first place and this is why making out some bets on making use of AI is never been recommendable but if you are really that curious whether its working or not then
here's a solid example that it doesnt. Trying out to force that it is working? then it would be your own choice because sooner or later you would really be able to find out that its never been that
worth on trying out to rely yourself with these things. Yes, AI could really be able sum up with those relevant information basing up on what are the information that had been stored up
basing on the past events but we know that there are things on which AI couldnt be able to assess.

For information seeking then it would be that relevant, but in speaking about trusting up 100% on the information that it do gives and on the sense that you are already relying
on it in means of betting then i would say that its not recommendable.

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November 30, 2023, 08:57:46 PM
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I have a developer who recently stumbled on multiple AI he uses for sport betting predictions, he uses it to generate sport bettings but none of the bets gets to be accurate as it generates tens of games. but when used to generate a much lesser number of games the predictions are sometimes  correct, at least 3 in 10 predictions of "multiple" bets.

But he loves having 30+ games "multiple" bet to win big amount and so far it has been a challenge in the last 5-6 weeks as his winnings have drastically dropped.


Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?

Any AI that I have used or better the ChatGPT as that the only thing I have used told me with a simple answer,"Sorry I cannot make any such predictions.I recommend you visit these sites" and it gave me about 5-6 sites of prediction and news about sport betting,I knew them all before the AI told me to visit them so I was not that impressed with ChatGPT with this topic.

That developer should make a good deed to the community and to make that AI public and why not open source so anyone can contribute to it and let's see if people from the open source which for me are the most talented can bring it to another level,the level of showing us at least 50% correct predictions and then it depends on us to divide the betting amount to be in profit  Grin.

The team behind ChatGPT restricts their AI from answering some kind of questions, including gambling. Although their answers won't be correct, but they don't want users taking advantage of the chatbot. Have you tried using different languages to ask similar questions on chatgpt. Some people have tried using local languages in south Africa to trick the chatbot to answer restricted questions. As the bot is trained in ways that it could answer different questions. But using English to query the bot for such information, may not get you any answer, due to the restriction. However, using AI to predict games is more like accepting that the bot is more intelligent than the brain. The human brain always perform better than AI, in all aspect of life. Relying on AI can't be effective, and can further affect the user not to utilize his brain power on sport analysis. Even when we book few games, it's not certain the bot's prediction, would play out accurately. AI isn't able to predict the future, but with it's training, it can easily look around all the sports resources required to analyze the game. Which would be better off, if we did that ourselves.

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November 30, 2023, 09:12:50 PM
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Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?

AI models can struggle making predictions outside the data used to train them.  Historical patterns may not capture new or unexpected events.  While fine for some applications, complex bets with many variables pose a problem.  Each additional game increases variables.  More ingredients in the mix, harder to bake a cake and  can AI get better at this? Maybe someday.  But no guarantees.

Lots of factors feed unpredictability.  Team chemistry, injuries weather.  An ill-timed gust alters the flight of a field goal.  Chaos sneaks into the complex.  So while AI keeps improving, beware overconfidence.

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November 30, 2023, 09:24:56 PM
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I have a developer who recently stumbled on multiple AI he uses for sport betting predictions, he uses it to generate sport bettings but none of the bets gets to be accurate as it generates tens of games. but when used to generate a much lesser number of games the predictions are sometimes  correct, at least 3 in 10 predictions of "multiple" bets.

But he loves having 30+ games "multiple" bet to win big amount and so far it has been a challenge in the last 5-6 weeks as his winnings have drastically dropped.


Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?

AI for the sports betting will not be the better option,many try of the bot for the trading.If they are successful using the bot trading,nearly Ninety percentage of the working population in  the trading using the bot.But with my knowledge only countable people was earning few dollars using the trading.So the gambling is closely related to the trading,So the AI also can't give the accurate result for the sports betting,because the game bet based on the previous play of the player,but we know the same player can't play good in all game.So the result for the game will vary based on the team performance on that particular day.My suggestion use your own knowledge for the betting instead of using the AI for the sorts betting.

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Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?

AI models can struggle making predictions outside the data used to train them.  Historical patterns may not capture new or unexpected events.  While fine for some applications, complex bets with many variables pose a problem.  Each additional game increases variables.  More ingredients in the mix, harder to bake a cake and  can AI get better at this? Maybe someday.  But no guarantees.

Lots of factors feed unpredictability.  Team chemistry, injuries weather.  An ill-timed gust alters the flight of a field goal.  Chaos sneaks into the complex.  So while AI keeps improving, beware overconfidence.

Or simply speaking about informations that had been stored up into their library on which we know that us human beings are the ones who do really feed up those informations to be stored and on the time that
you would really be asking something then they could really be able to provide out relevant information basing on what you have asked out but on the time that you would be asking something
which it is really out of its scope then they cant really be able to provide out such information as simple as that. This is why if you do tend to ask some AI then assume that you are just been that answered
by someone.  Grin

It is even crazy to think and know that there were people who are really that even believing and they do ask AI on whats the next movement market of Bitcoin
and other altcoins. hahaha. There's no such thing on this world that could really be able to predict on what would gonna happen in the future and this is why
it would be always better that you should really be not relying yourself into these things.

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November 30, 2023, 09:45:24 PM
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I have a developer who recently stumbled on multiple AI he uses for sport betting predictions, he uses it to generate sport bettings but none of the bets gets to be accurate as it generates tens of games. but when used to generate a much lesser number of games the predictions are sometimes  correct, at least 3 in 10 predictions of "multiple" bets.

But he loves having 30+ games "multiple" bet to win big amount and so far it has been a challenge in the last 5-6 weeks as his winnings have drastically dropped.

Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?

It definitely seems feasible that at some point in the future, when AI is fully tuned into all the latest news sources and has a reliable stream of information like news, "celeb gossip" that can describe player issues, management and weather analysis, among a lot of other data, then it might be able to beat existing analysis by bookmakers. Just bear in mind however, that these very same bookmakers are trying to stay ahead and improve their existing prediction capabilities all the time, because there is a lot of money at stake if they get it correct.. or wrong. Being able to accurately predict 3 out of 10 results doesn't seem much better than random guesswork to me.

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November 30, 2023, 09:47:30 PM
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If you train the AI long enough, you will achieve success with it. Though of course, there are some factors and conditions that you need to feed it with especially on live events. The AI needs to be fed with new information in order for it to have a higher success rate. If it doesn't, it's like you're asking a person what investment should they pick without having current knowledge on the trends and price movements of that certain investment vehicle.

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November 30, 2023, 09:51:25 PM
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Except the AI ca see the future it's of no use. Or maybe it's "the entity" (the AI in Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning) lol.
I've never used AI to predict games, but the AI will only predict games based on data it has been given and those data are also accessible to me. It is with those same data I predict my own games, so there's no difference.
It's easier to predict fewer games compared to many games and that's the same thng the AI did.
I can predict the outcome of 3 games and 80% of the time I'll be right but the chances of me getting the prediction of all 30 games correct is way lower.

Also, AI predicts games without emotion, which could be a good thing, but it can also be a disadvantage.
Let's take for example a derby match. AI will predict based on the team that is in a better form obviously, but that's not always tge case. Derby matches or rival are very different. A match between Real Madrid and Barcelona can go either way regardless of who is in a better form

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November 30, 2023, 09:52:48 PM
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That is because AIs can tell things that "might" happen based on the data that it gathers but it cannot accurately say what's actually will be the result.

For this, you ask an AI about the future price of Bitcoin and it's going to decline any prediction. And the same goes for betting, it's a future result that don't have accurate details on it.

So, if you guys are smart enough, these AIs are also smart to say that they can't predict 100% with sports betting results.

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November 30, 2023, 10:27:12 PM
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To me Artificial Intelligence does not have practical applications when comes to predicting outcomes with a high degree of accuracy, the reason is simple, there are too many variables with comes to sports which cannot be in any way, shape or form predicted.
The closest I can think an AI can get is helping with the analysis of data about the performance of teams against each other, in order to ask the machine/AI an opinion of the possible outcome.
If someone managed to get an AI which offered over 80% of accuracy within sportbetting it could be translated to the end of the industry as we know it.

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November 30, 2023, 10:59:04 PM
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I just want to try to enjoy this sports betting activity so that it can give me pleasure. Regardless of whether the result is winning or losing, it all depends on the match analysis process that we carry out, but when we are able to enjoy the process, then whether the result is winning or losing, betting remains a fun activity.


  Meanwhile, when we bet by relying on artificial intelligence, namely AI, we will never be able to enjoy the process. And when you lose, it becomes a regret. Because what you are after when placing a bet is profit, not pleasure.
And honestly, when I got a win through the analysis technique that I used, I felt very satisfied when I got the win, even though the amount wasn't much.

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November 30, 2023, 11:04:10 PM
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You make a fair point.  Betting's tough to predict perfectly 'cause the future's always uncertain.  Even if AI tools spot helpful patterns and trends, at the end of the day every bets still a gamble and  that's why bettors gotta use their own brains too - carefully judging each wager instead of just blindly following some computer's suggestions.  But sure, AI can be useful, just can't replace human common sense.

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November 30, 2023, 11:06:19 PM
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I can see the benefit of using AI in betting in the coming years, they are purely logical after all and provided that they work purely under code, they'd have no bias as well. But in the current setting? I doubt it. You can even rely upon AI to answer complex mathematical equations cause 9 times out of ten they'd fuck the answers up. AI's going to be the future for sure, but the present? Not so much. If you're looking to find a reliable way for you to win consistently in betting, look elsewhere until we actually get an AI model that's specifically created for this purpose. Cause if you go about asking ChatGPT which team's gonna win in the future, you'd get no useful information from it, and you'd ultimately just be wasting your time and your money.

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