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December 03, 2023, 07:59:43 PM
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That is why they have KYC in order for them to track down money laundering activities. Because if there is no kyc for most casinos, they have already been flagged down by the government.

But since they comply and they do it with due diligence and enforcing it, they wont be hot in the eyes of the regulators.

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December 03, 2023, 08:15:56 PM
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I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?
Crypto casinos no doubt could be used for money laundering but it has become very difficult to clear the traces. Most of these casinos operate under licences that stipulate how they run the gambling business. I have read about some situations where some licensors threatened to withdraw or withhold the licence of some casinos because they failed to abide by regulatory provisions. Mixers are not registered or regulated by any government organization and they don't need a licence to operate so they can operate freely.

 Money launderers are aware that casinos are not a good medium for moving illegal funds so they hardly use them. Most casinos that claim not to require KYC will ask for it immediately if they suspect any shady transaction or when withdrawing large sums. I doubt if casinos will be attacked just like mixers because they are already under the control of the government. However, in the crypto space anything is possible.

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December 03, 2023, 08:17:55 PM
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We all know the recent issue about the mixer status here in the forum. Crypto casino is also being use for money laundering by some criminals that’s why every casino has AML policy.

I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?

I don't think that the criminals will simply jump on reputable casinos to mixed or laundered their money there. Crypto based casinos as you have said, has AML and they have their own anti-fraudulent group if I'm not mistaken.

And chances are, if they see one then they will have to confiscate it, ASAP resulting to a lost to those criminals as well. And other like wagering requirements have been set up by casino themselves so that they won't be taken advantage by this criminals.
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December 03, 2023, 08:22:14 PM
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If any gambling based organization commits scams like money laundering then those organizations must come under the law. A number of Mixture campaigns have created good space in the forum but have caused scams like money laundering due to which the Forum has decided that no more Mixture campaigns will be promoted on this forum. Many members will lose their jobs due to banning mixer campaign in this forum but if the forum is protected due to banning of mixer campaign then it is definitely a good decision for the forum. Cheating gambling establishments do but are not discussed much. If the betting sites are cheating then the betting campaigns will never be banned in the forum because different countries are officially sanctioned and then run the betting sites and there should be no problem for the Bitcoin forum to promote these betting sites.

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December 03, 2023, 08:26:28 PM
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Majorly every popular and well established gambling casinos does have operating licenses and registration codes which  are all issued by the government through their respective regulatory bodies.
And as such, gambling casinos can never be under the same subjective ban like the mixers are, gambling casinos are already an approved business on like mixers, in gambling casinos, users are required to go through account verification processes which captures their personal details like photo, ID and other various means of identification, any criminal who would want to use a casino to launder money or perform any other criminal activities stand a very high chances of being tracked and caught sooner of later.

So, rest assured that gambling casinos are as safe as they can be when it comes to the possiblity of them facing a ban on the forum like mixers have been banned.

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December 03, 2023, 08:32:17 PM
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If there is no order from the government, they'll keep going. The forum has just been on the sight of these undercovers due to the taking down of some mixers a few days ago. It's not the first one and I think that's a nice step that there's a need for them to get filtered and not allowed on January 1.

As for the casinos, it's the same as the physical casinos, as long as they are registered then they're going to be protected by the law and will be under the law. Whilst for the mixers, they are not registered and they don't need to be because that defeats the purpose of it. Not just from being targeted due to the mixing and money laundering but also about the registration, taxation and regulation that they should be under the jurisdiction where they are located.

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December 03, 2023, 08:41:49 PM
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We all know the recent issue about the mixer status here in the forum. Crypto casino is also being use for money laundering by some criminals that’s why every casino has AML policy.

I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?
No, it cant happen! We know that gambling businesses are really that complying on governments rules and this is why they do really strictly implying those kind of terms and conditions whenever they are dealing something with those huge deposits or whatsoever correlated things about it on which there's always a tendency that it could happen in the platform but since these
companies are really that centralized or regulated by government rules terms then those money launderers wont really be considering on making use of gambling
platforms as their mediums and to consider out that 1x wagering with your deposit might sounds less but its not something that you could really be able to get that confident on.
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December 03, 2023, 08:53:52 PM
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I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?

Well, I wouldn't compare mixers and casinos...  I wouldn't say I like this new forum policy, I think that people should have the right to stay private, but this isn't the first time we see how governments are trying to stop mixers.

For now, crypto casinos are operating without big troubles, but who knows what the future holds? I doubt that crypto casinos and mixers will ever stop to exist, maybe they just won't be on the forum if there are some legal obstacles to their advertising and generally talking about them. As I understand from "the boss" post, for now he just wish to be covered and not associated with any "mixing activities".

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December 03, 2023, 08:56:28 PM
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We all know the recent issue about the mixer status here in the forum. Crypto casino is also being use for money laundering by some criminals that’s why every casino has AML policy.

I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?

I have not heard or read about a casino being taken over by the authorities for violating the Anti-money Laundering Act many casinos are licensed so they are fully compliance with the authorities they are very strict in implementing KYC, as you can see how gamblers react on these KYC.
You cannot compare mixers to casinos they are two separate platforms and they serve different purposes.
So I don't think there will be a crackdown, casinos are perfectly safe to promote here.


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December 03, 2023, 08:57:17 PM
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I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?

Well, I wouldn't compare mixers and casinos...  I wouldn't say I like this new forum policy, I think that people should have the right to stay private, but this isn't the first time we see how governments are trying to stop mixers.

For now, crypto casinos are operating without big troubles, but who knows what the future holds? I doubt that crypto casinos and mixers will ever stop to exist, maybe they just won't be on the forum if there are some legal obstacles to their advertising and generally talking about them. As I understand from "the boss" post, for now he just wish to be covered and not associated with any "mixing activities".
As for the forum actions towards those mixers then i dont see for it to be bad, yes it did make out some step that really going against total privacy but for the sake of this forums
existence and reputation then Theymos did made out such decision on excluding out those mixers to be adverstise into this forum on which i dont see for it to be an issue
or simply it is really just that a good decision to be made for the sake of every member of this forum because once this place would be allowing those things
then we do know that government will definitely seize down this forum, so it is really just that a right call.
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December 03, 2023, 09:03:37 PM
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I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?

I dont think so. Casinos are not effective at laundering money. Money laundering is usually carried out in large amounts and casinos will definitely ask for KYC if there are large withdrawal transactions. Kyc will protect the platform from accusations of money laundering because if it is indicated that there is suspicious transaction activity, the casino will provide user data to the police so that this will help the police and prevent the casino from being accused of abetting money laundering.

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December 03, 2023, 09:06:40 PM
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For now, crypto casinos are operating without big troubles, but who knows what the future holds? I doubt that crypto casinos and mixers will ever stop to exist, maybe they just won't be on the forum if there are some legal obstacles to their advertising and generally talking about them.
You made a good point. To not advertise mixer services on this forum doesn't mean those services will stop existing and operating. Mixer's enthusiasts will keep using and looking for them in another niches of the internet, anyway. I don't think money launderers will have to move their schemes to casinos or any other business category for this reason.

But in positive case, that is, if the siege to mixers get more severe in a global scale, they will have to find creative ways to continue operating, and to use KYC casinos to do so doesn't look a good idea, because regulators will be watching closely that way. They definitely won't want that.

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December 03, 2023, 09:17:42 PM
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We all know the recent issue about the mixer status here in the forum. Crypto casino is also being use for money laundering by some criminals that’s why every casino has AML policy.

I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?

I have not heard or read about a casino being taken over by the authorities for violating the Anti-money Laundering Act many casinos are licensed so they are fully compliance with the authorities they are very strict in implementing KYC, as you can see how gamblers react on these KYC.
You cannot compare mixers to casinos they are two separate platforms and they serve different purposes.
So I don't think there will be a crackdown, casinos are perfectly safe to promote here.

Under the mixer thread, you'd notice where it's written that mixers are not completely bad. The fact it's banned in the forum doesn't mean mixers won't exist anymore. The service is here to stay, and for the administrator of the forum to go against it, then something must have happened behind the scene. For the safety and longevity of the forum, I trust the decision is good for us all. The forum isn't against mixers, just that the promotion of mixers in signatures are prohibited. So, people would still use mixers for their businesses. Instead of running to casinos. Although the government will keep clamping down bitcoin mixers to be able to track dark web transactions. Casinos are off the sight, like you said, it's quite incomparable. Many big online platforms pay their users in cryptocurrency, does it mean the government will close them down for money laundering? No. Lots of illegal businesses use mixers to clean their funds, which when one of them gets caught, the FBI visits the forum for their investigation. Endangering the notion of the forum, people could think it's now a dark web or in support of their activities. Ok, lets get it straight, if the government stops casinos from accepting cryptocurrency, is going to stop the casino from paying their advertisers via cryptocurrency?

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December 03, 2023, 09:18:29 PM
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That is why they have KYC in order for them to track down money laundering activities. Because if there is no kyc for most casinos, they have already been flagged down by the government.

But since they comply and they do it with due diligence and enforcing it, they wont be hot in the eyes of the regulators.
True! KYC is the key, but there are many gamblers or users of the website with KYC don't want to undergo KYC as they concern about their information without knowing that KYC serves as their security and the casino's compliance to the law, you see as you said KYC is implemented to avoid money laundering to track the doer if they did something like illicit activities including money laundering, crypto casino gambling sites are being subject to be used by those who has illicit activities, so this should be a lesson for everyone that no matter what your concern is comply in KYC first because some or mostly crypto casino do requires KYC first before you can withdraw your money, to avoid locking of funds. Also, you will comply with KYC if you know you will not be doing anything; otherwise, you will have a problem withdrawing your funds from the platform.

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December 03, 2023, 09:46:41 PM
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Yo, yooo!!! This are actually two different topics mhann!!
The governs pressing on money laundering cases on casinos..isn't the same thing with the fact that mixers are being banned .. BTW, the whole issue arouse when the governs weren't given prior authorization over mixers like 'em casinos did.. y'all been told that KYCs are made to stop money laundering?? Lol... There are more reasons to why it's made; why would the governs decide to eliminate a project that hasn't got any bad reviews just because they ain't initializing the KYCs??... Remember, In the crypto space, anonymity is imperative.

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It is an open secrets that fraudsters find online casinos as very suitable avenue to send illicit funds. If you check the amount of financial transactions that is ongoing in gambling activities you will know why money laundering schemes thrives. Aside the methods used by these criminals to deposit and withdraw these funds, the anonymity embedded in bitcoin makes it easy to carry out these activities smoothly. It brings bad name to the online casino industry, therefore they need for stringent anti-money laundering (AML) measures in the gambling industry to counteract such activities.

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December 03, 2023, 10:01:05 PM
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We all know the recent issue about the mixer status here in the forum. Crypto casino is also being use for money laundering by some criminals that’s why every casino has AML policy.

I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?
Your reasoning and the post you dropped made it look like this forum is the only place that mixers can advertise in this world and since they are going to be banned here, it will be the end of mixers. No, that is not what is obtainable. To be frank with you, anyone who wishes to use mixers will still find them and use. The reason why mixers are advertising in BTT is not to let people know that there are mixers. It is just to sink their brands in the mind of many.
Also, know that mixer owners are going to find a new way to advertise, even here in the forum. Don't be surprised, 2024 has many surprising things for us and we should be very ready to accept them.

As about your fear, casinos are cool regulated and the percentage of people that will use casinos to act bad are small because of many policies and wagering requirements of casinos.

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I mean, you already answered it. Casinos have AML policies so I highly doubt they'd be attacked by the government for no reason. If ever, it'd be for a different reason but the only thing I can see they can attack from is from the usage of crypto and if they do that, they basically have to ban or deem illegal the usage of crypto itself.

In the first place it's kind of dumb to assume that due to mixers being banned here, in the forum, money laundering groups would immediately jump to crypto casinos. No, it doesn't work that way. It's kind of bold to assume in the first place that said groups converse in here anyway. Mixers being banned from the forum does not mean they're banned from being talked about everywhere, not to mention its usage itself. They can talk via telegram and use some random mixer out there really.


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December 03, 2023, 10:08:01 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, crypto casinos are more stricter than crypto exchanges are far as flagging those laundered money going into their platform. That's why they are seldom used by entities to clean up their money, it could end bad for them once casinos found out the source and what is their intention. So criminals will have to find a new way, I mean there are still platforms that hey usually used.

And there are a lot of them, in the dark net or dark web, or even in clear net, they are still going to used it although as we all know that kind of platform advertisement here will end at the start of the year.

So nothing will chance for this criminals, crypto casinos are not going to be affected by it.

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December 03, 2023, 10:13:39 PM
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We all know the recent issue about the mixer status here in the forum. Crypto casino is also being use for money laundering by some criminals that’s why every casino has AML policy.

I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?

Actually some of the mixer was involved in the money laundering and the few casino based on the cryptocurrency was involved in money laundering.In both the case only some of them was involved in the money laundering.

So we should not blame the entire crypto based casino in the forum.Their are many casino running outside forum without the knowledge of forum.The forum people will check the available casino in the forum and declare the casino which involve in the money laundering.The most of the cryptocurrency based casino ask the gamblers to do kyc only for the avoiding of the money laundering in their site.
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