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December 10, 2023, 08:07:07 AM
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By supply and demand you should get one lambo for 50Usd or maybe Even for Free.
That's the secret but nobody don't talk about it world is over. Supplied there is too many goods but hard to storage them or destroy.
And Even food the world is full of food even good food goes into waste.
And If we look at all those eshops like ebay amazon we have situation when supply is way higher then demand.

There will always be a luxury market for the 1% super rich people of the world. It doesn't matter who holds the cash, because if one person losses it someone else will gain it and take his place spending it. Supply and demand don’t really work for the billionaires of the world, because they want to be different from everybody else. There are limited amounts of Lamborghinis or Ferrari in the world, some models are even only produced in very small numbers. This gives a lot of prestige to the owner of the cars, because everybody knows how expensive they are and you can't afford them from a normal salary. Same goes for the clothes the rich people like to wear. The quality of a T-Shirt or Short will never justify a price of 2,000 USD, but showing a logo to everybody else from such a special brand makes it worth it. Luxury items are never going to be for the masses and we should be fine with it. If you had millions in your bank account and don't care about money anymore, wouldn't also buy the fanciest items in the world? You got to somehow spend your money after setting up your family for life.
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December 10, 2023, 08:55:06 AM
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Yup, everyone is working hard to sustain their family and entire life and the things they purchase is their needs and wants so it's absolutely important to them, In fact they use their own money just to buy the things that they really want to have and there's nothing wrong with that. Most of the time, even those in the lower/middle class family, they have enough fund for their leisure which is we all know that it is not considered as essentials in life, but for me, if a person has a capability to do everything regardless their financial status, then let them be and don't judge them.
Everyone who works to be able to earn income to meet their family's needs and also their desires to be fulfilled, of course there is nothing wrong with them spending their money on their desires because they have worked so it is natural for them to enjoy the results of their hard work, yes we can't judging someone about the use of their income, of course they have thought carefully about what they are doing for themselves.

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December 10, 2023, 09:10:00 AM
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Yup, everyone is working hard to sustain their family and entire life and the things they purchase is their needs and wants so it's absolutely important to them, In fact they use their own money just to buy the things that they really want to have and there's nothing wrong with that. Most of the time, even those in the lower/middle class family, they have enough fund for their leisure which is we all know that it is not considered as essentials in life, but for me, if a person has a capability to do everything regardless their financial status, then let them be and don't judge them.
Everyone who works to be able to earn income to meet their family's needs and also their desires to be fulfilled, of course there is nothing wrong with them spending their money on their desires because they have worked so it is natural for them to enjoy the results of their hard work, yes we can't judging someone about the use of their income, of course they have thought carefully about what they are doing for themselves.
Precisely! Who doesn't want to buy things they want for their self or family? all of us are working here to achieve everything that we want that's why I don't see anything wrong in purchasing things even if it's not essentials, as long as it gives us a happiness and fullfillment, i will consider it as important things to my life.



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December 10, 2023, 09:34:22 AM
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Yup, everyone is working hard to sustain their family and entire life and the things they purchase is their needs and wants so it's absolutely important to them, In fact they use their own money just to buy the things that they really want to have and there's nothing wrong with that. Most of the time, even those in the lower/middle class family, they have enough fund for their leisure which is we all know that it is not considered as essentials in life, but for me, if a person has a capability to do everything regardless their financial status, then let them be and don't judge them.
Everyone who works to be able to earn income to meet their family's needs and also their desires to be fulfilled, of course there is nothing wrong with them spending their money on their desires because they have worked so it is natural for them to enjoy the results of their hard work, yes we can't judging someone about the use of their income, of course they have thought carefully about what they are doing for themselves.
Precisely! Who doesn't want to buy things they want for their self or family? all of us are working here to achieve everything that we want that's why I don't see anything wrong in purchasing things even if it's not essentials, as long as it gives us a happiness and fullfillment, i will consider it as important things to my life.
As you say it's about meeting satisfaction and the OP can't be a great measure of how each individual interests differ from what is needed.  The OP goal may be to make people more aware of unnecessary  purchases but that doesn't mean every item name will be put  on the trash list. This is only an option if you want to buy it and if not please throw  it in the trash.  Actually it's not complicated  people already know and OP doesn't provide any solutions Satisfaction, hobbies even just  eliminating  curiosity.

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December 10, 2023, 02:18:47 PM
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World is full of goods and products specially brands clothing and Even the luxury cars.
In the law of supply and demand no matter If rates goes lower things prices can fall.
Now there is problems where to put all those cucci Versace or other high brands products.
There is no space anymore for that and Even Luxury cars the world is full of those.
By supply and demand you should get one lambo for 50Usd or maybe Even for Free.
That's the secret but nobody don't talk about it world is over. Supplied there is too many goods but hard to storage them or destroy.
And Even food the world is full of food even good food goes into waste.
And If we look at all those eshops like ebay amazon we have situation when supply is way higher then demand.
They produce more but we have allready too much just too much
And If the fed will cut again rates our planet will be Even more full of the trash and we will be oversupupplied of anything and now the Western countries are full of goods and a lot Luxury brand items and clothing what nobody don't really need yet the prices are high but sooner or later Luxury goods and items prices will fall becouse world is allready full of those.
Even myself ... And many people who i know ...all my basement IS full of clothes becouse i buy every Christmas time brand clthings ...and i have nowhere to put them.
The clothes they get old and you don't want to wear them so you end up full House of just the old brand clothes and that's not just me but a lot people have Same problem we collect things more then we need it.

  If you think you don't have it anymore, maybe just have a garage sale, so at least you can still use what you want to sell where you want to use it. Or the other option is to give it to charities or people in need that you think will benefit from it.

  Apart from charity, there are NGOs, foundations, and others that you think can really help, rather than not being of any use, right? Besides, it's also a luxury because that's only for people in the middle class.

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December 10, 2023, 02:30:01 PM
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That's the sad truth, we buy stuff that we want and not what we need so we end up with all of this stuff piling up and at the end of the day, these stuff ends up owning us, you know like that one Fight Club quote about consumerism. Maybe our species is just a ball of hungry beast that craves something new everyday so we just do something about it and sate our desires. It's not the end for us even if this world is so rife of consumerism and greed, if we learn how to live modestly and fulfilling, we will eventually learn how to not be owned by the stuff we desire and have, living a life of being happy with what you have is the ultimate goal, at least for me.

Everyone who works to be able to earn income to meet their family's needs and also their desires to be fulfilled, of course there is nothing wrong with them spending their money on their desires because they have worked so it is natural for them to enjoy the results of their hard work, yes we can't judging someone about the use of their income, of course they have thought carefully about what they are doing for themselves.
Yes, there's nothing wrong but most of the time, we always get an excess and we end up with nothing but those desires. To balance this kind of stuff, the responsibility to others and to yourself, you should learn the ability to prioritize and decide on stuff that matters the most. Prioritizing spending on those that will guarantee the survival of more people is the most moral choice to do.

How someone spends their money is their business, your judgment should be kept to yourself or if you're the kind that can't shut up then talk about it with the others and not with the person because whatever they do with their money, we can't really know the story behind the why unless they tell us.
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December 10, 2023, 02:47:13 PM
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World is full of goods and products specially brands clothing and Even the luxury cars.
I believe that branded clothing and luxury cars are in completely different price (product) categories and it is wrong to compare them. There are a lot of luxury cars produced, but not many people can buy them, unlike branded clothing.

In the law of supply and demand no matter If rates goes lower things prices can fall.
What prices could fall? For luxury cars? You're daydreaming.

Now there is problems where to put all those cucci Versace or other high brands products.
How to where? It will sell out. At the very least, at a discount.

There is no space anymore for that and Even Luxury cars the world is full of those.
There are plenty of luxury cars in the world, but there are still fewer of them than production cars. Therefore, these Luxury cars will cost more.

By supply and demand you should get one lambo for 50Usd or maybe Even for Free.
50Usd? I would believe it if you quoted 5BTC.

50Usd for a Lambo or even free? - you're crazy. This will never happen (given the current economic situation in the world). It's only in a post-apocalyptic world that Lambos won't cost anything.

That's the secret but nobody don't talk about it world is over.
Are you another one of those who knows the real secret and decided to generously share with us?

Supplied there is too many goods but hard to storage them or destroy.
We live in a consumer society (under capitalism) and that is why so many goods are produced. This is in its own way the other side of all this.

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December 10, 2023, 02:49:36 PM
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I think life is all about choice, despite the world is full of junk according to you. I think it's not a must to have them. Every thing produce in the market is useful perhaps not to every one. When yo don't have money or when we are not rich we criticize things we can't afford. But when we are super rich we think of having them all.  Despite the world is full of things we don't want according to you. We still need to embrace technology. Because this advancement in technology is the reason you were able to afford the type of phone you are using now.

Let take for example iPhone 4 was expensive when it came to the market and now upgraded to 14pro max, and not everyone would have been able to purchase it if the price was stucked uptill date. But due to the upgrade from time to time, the price of the previous becomes cheap and affordable. And many where able to afford it. If there were no innovation on steady basis how on Earth would you have affordable the type of things you have achieved today? I think civilization is making us to achieve things we can afford. So I think civilization and creativity is giving us room to benefit things we can't afford.

It's part of a larger worry about excess production, which can lead to a saturation of commodities that exceeds real need. While technical developments make luxury things and apparel more accessible throughout time, overproduction creates a surplus that exceeds individual purchasing power. It is not a matter of criticizing what we cannot afford; rather, it is a systemic issue of controlling surplus supply and its environmental and societal effects. To combat the excess of commodities, adopting technology should be aligned with sustainable behaviors.
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December 10, 2023, 05:44:15 PM
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Yup, everyone is working hard to sustain their family and entire life and the things they purchase is their needs and wants so it's absolutely important to them, In fact they use their own money just to buy the things that they really want to have and there's nothing wrong with that. Most of the time, even those in the lower/middle class family, they have enough fund for their leisure which is we all know that it is not considered as essentials in life, but for me, if a person has a capability to do everything regardless their financial status, then let them be and don't judge them.
Everyone who works to be able to earn income to meet their family's needs and also their desires to be fulfilled, of course there is nothing wrong with them spending their money on their desires because they have worked so it is natural for them to enjoy the results of their hard work, yes we can't judging someone about the use of their income, of course they have thought carefully about what they are doing for themselves.

yes that's right, everyone has to work to fulfill their desires and support their families, people who work must have desires in their lives because of that they work. the daily life that must be fulfilled is certain, therefore many people are looking for work. with the desires that exist in them lead them to have to work, although there may be people who have desires only have to talk to their parents and their parents can buy what they want because they have wealth. but in my opinion even though someone has rich parents, there is nothing wrong with them working because basically they will have their own responsibilities later such as, personal family, wife and children. it is impossible for them to always depend on their rich parents. But in my opinion even if someone has rich parents, there is nothing wrong with them working because basically they will have their own responsibilities later such as, personal family, wife and children. there is no way they should always depend on their rich parents.

people who have a good mindset, they will work with good goals, where they will use their monthly income for needs that they definitely need not want. because there are people who always prioritize their wants over their needs, so they buy something of high value even though it is not very important and not really needed. so if they work, they should also be able to think about their needs, which are definitely things that need to be fulfilled every day.

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December 10, 2023, 06:39:55 PM
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This isn't anything new op. Humans usually buy more than they need for various reasons and this will never change. Some people smartly purchase and use stuff that they really need though they are part of the minority.

The majority buy all sorts of stuff that they hardly use. The biggest con due to all this is the negative effect on our beautiful planet sadly.

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Actually the money created today includes branded items that do have prices beyond reason or foods that seem strange, not that it is useless, it's just that we are not too suitable for it.
We need to realize that we as humans are very dependent on something and we will not be satisfied with the needs we have so that we create new innovation even though they seem strange.
It doesnt mean that good that we think are useless are not useful for others as well,such as the expensive brands that you talked about earlier, it does not mean that they are useless but we cannot afford to follow them because they are beyond the reach of our strength, but for those who dont think about anything in purchasing and dont even see the price, it has a use because the expensive brand has its own market.
So who is wrong in this case? Is it really the highpriced goods that are wrong? of course not,it is we who are wrong who make the mistake of not doing what we are capable of doing so that we become depressed by it. 

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That’s how the world is structured, someone buys, and someone sells. The financial system is designed in such a way that people have to work and produce goods and services, and this is basically what economics is, and I also forgot about taxes, where would we be without them.  I agree about garbage, in developed countries they are effectively fighting it, whereas in other countries they only talk about it and do almost nothing about it.
Everyone in the world really needs to take care of all this in order to avoid "garbage" that pollutes, a glance at the economy, of course, to maintain the world economy, the resilience of people's purchasing power is really needed, so often goods are not actually needed for humans, it is mass-produced to keep the economic cycle solid, and just imagine how much damage and unemployment will arise if the production of goods or goods stops, let the world continue as it is now, trying to stop it will only drain your mind.

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Have this mindset - buy when you need it, not because you can afford it. In essence, humans are never satisfied and their lust will continue to peak when they have the ability to buy anything. On the one hand - producers produce whatever because of market demand. They know there will be demand even if they have to compete fiercely.

I once read something somewhere about the number of cars a Sultan of Brunei owns - it's 7000 and that's a really unnecessary waste. Read on this:

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It's evident that addressing overproduction requires a multifaceted approach involving changes in individual behavior, industry practices, and policy frameworks. By fostering a collective awareness and commitment to sustainable practices, we can work towards a more balanced and responsible consumption pattern.
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As you say it's about meeting satisfaction and the OP can't be a great measure of how each individual interests differ from what is needed.  The OP goal may be to make people more aware of unnecessary  purchases but that doesn't mean every item name will be put  on the trash list. This is only an option if you want to buy it and if not please throw  it in the trash.  Actually it's not complicated  people already know and OP doesn't provide any solutions Satisfaction, hobbies even just  eliminating  curiosity.
We are a society of consumers, advertising affects everyone equally, you see something, they convince you that you need it and now you want to buy it. Not long ago I watched a film, if I’m not mistaken, it’s called Things, but I could be wrong, it really reveals the essence of our society and in fact we can do without most of these unnecessary things that we constantly buy. Old unnecessary things can be given to those who need it more, or sold, but they should not be stored unnecessarily.

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Prices of goods in this world don't completely work like supply and demand. There might be a high demand, high supply and prices can still be super high because of agreements between business owners or because of monopoly.

heck even when oil was over sold and contracts ended and no one could take in all the oil so they had to resell it quickly at minus price barrels.. the retail price of car fuel NEVER went into the minus
Yes, the oil price was in minus which means oil producers were paying money buyers to get rid of it, this was the first case in history as far as I know. To sum up, sellers had to pay -$37.63 per barrel just to get rid of it. If we follow logic, car owners should be getting money to fill their tank with fuel but that didn't happen, we were paying money to fill the tanks of our cars.

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OP don't forget that human needs are insatiable, people will always need new products. If a need is satisfied another one is naturally triggered. I don't the source of your information or how you got the inspiration to put up this thread because it lacks some basic facts. Luxury goods will always be available for those who can afford them, and old products will be dumped. Your assumption that the price of luxury goods will fall in the future is not true because there will always be people who can afford it. You should also know that the price will never fall because of the cost of production. Most of these luxury goods are expensive to produce and you don't expect the manufacturers to sell the product below the cost price.

I want to also advise that if your basement is filled with clothes that you don't need anymore you can donate them to NGOs so that they can be distributed to people that need them. Prisons in my location will be willing to receive such clothes because many inmates don't have clothing materials. The truth is that the rich will continue to buy what they want and the poor will be satisfied with their basic needs.       
I agree with your opinion that clothes or similar things are no longer used, it's better to just donate them to NGOs or people who still need them. There are many ways to help those in need. Additionally I think solidarity and caring might help to build a better society.

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Yup, everyone is working hard to sustain their family and entire life and the things they purchase is their needs and wants so it's absolutely important to them, In fact they use their own money just to buy the things that they really want to have and there's nothing wrong with that. Most of the time, even those in the lower/middle class family, they have enough fund for their leisure which is we all know that it is not considered as essentials in life, but for me, if a person has a capability to do everything regardless their financial status, then let them be and don't judge them.
Everyone who works to be able to earn income to meet their family's needs and also their desires to be fulfilled, of course there is nothing wrong with them spending their money on their desires because they have worked so it is natural for them to enjoy the results of their hard work, yes we can't judging someone about the use of their income, of course they have thought carefully about what they are doing for themselves.
Precisely! Who doesn't want to buy things they want for their self or family? all of us are working here to achieve everything that we want that's why I don't see anything wrong in purchasing things even if it's not essentials, as long as it gives us a happiness and fullfillment, i will consider it as important things to my life.

That's right, the purpose of working is to fulfill the needs in life and grant every what we want one of them from the type of goods as you mentioned. It doesn't matter if you can afford it, but one thing that might be a pretty good suggestion is that even though you've earned a lot of money as a result of the work you do but on the other hand I don't think excessive things like that are recommended to always do.

There are times when you give yourself pleasure as an appreciation and a sign of gratitude for all the struggles you have done, but on the other hand management for a balance must be considered and needs to be done. This means that you must really make a limit to buy something that is not too important and not really needed and you better save some money that is not used, because obviously everyone must have or will experience situations and conditions that are quite urgent in his life, so this method is really effective to do as a preventive measure. Another thing is that we must understand that wants and needs are different, especially wants which usually will never have a limit because you will always see new things in life that can always interest you.

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What I think in this case is that we expect too much of ourselves by expecting habits and spending according to what we want but can't do it which makes us stressed because we can't keep up with it.
Expensive goods or indeed new innovations that occur from gadgets, fashion or other transformation tools are ways for the market to provide the services needed by consumers. But apart from that, of course, we know that every manufacturer focuses on certain markets and classes, some are in the lower class (standard) middle class and upper class which are usually in demand by socialites and billionaires.
Everything has its own market, its just that we dont look at ourselves to be in which class that makes this not fit with the thoughts that don't really match what is happening, for example, looking at a bag that costs even more than the price of a regular car or looking at the fashion that could even buy several dozen for the usual price. it doesn't mean it's useless because for those in the upper class (billionaires and socialites) don't care about the price, the most important thing is that their desires and their desires are well fulfilled.

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As you say it's about meeting satisfaction and the OP can't be a great measure of how each individual interests differ from what is needed.  The OP goal may be to make people more aware of unnecessary  purchases but that doesn't mean every item name will be put  on the trash list. This is only an option if you want to buy it and if not please throw  it in the trash.  Actually it's not complicated  people already know and OP doesn't provide any solutions Satisfaction, hobbies even just  eliminating  curiosity.
We are a society of consumers, advertising affects everyone equally, you see something, they convince you that you need it and now you want to buy it. Not long ago I watched a film, if I’m not mistaken, it’s called Things, but I could be wrong, it really reveals the essence of our society and in fact we can do without most of these unnecessary things that we constantly buy. Old unnecessary things can be given to those who need it more, or sold, but they should not be stored unnecessarily.
I totally agree with you. We have bocome a society of consumers, in a sense, we are made to buy things that have no essetial values to our life. Your reflection on our consumer society and the impact of advertising resonates with a broader societal observation. The influence of advertising on our desires and purchasing decisions is sinking in modern life. Many of the things we acquire may be unnecessary, because we could live without them, This raises an important point about mindful consumption.

I like your suggestion of redistributing old and unnecessary items to those in need or selling them, because it aligns with the idea of reducing waste and promoting sustainability. That encourages a more thoughtful and intentional approach to consumption, emphasizing the importance of distinguishing between genuine needs and the influence of external stimuli. It's a reflection that reminds people of considering the impact of their choices not only on their lives but also on the broader community and the environment.

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