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December 07, 2023, 02:46:32 PM
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I would have dismissed it as nothing big, but it's hard to do that after the pandemic that showed that sometimes things can get huge. Of course, it may not be as serious as the Covid pandemic was, but it's hard to know for sure.
Since we've just went through a pandemic, I think next time will be much easier because people already know the basics and have an experience of social distancing, regular testing, wearing masks and all that. But, as I'm currently in Ukraine (and perhaps the op is also in Ukraine), I think the pandemic would be especially challenging for military action and everything related to sustaining the army, not to mention that people probably would not take another pandemic seriously enough when there are air alerts and drone attacks, you know.

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December 07, 2023, 03:12:52 PM
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It's really scary to hear about the undiagnosed respiratory disease affecting children in China. The covid 19 feels is coming back to me. While it's important to stay informed, it's also crucial to rely on official health organizations for updates and guidance. Let’s not make fakenews prevail. We can try to maintain good hygiene practices, staying informed about the situation through reliable sources, and following any recommendations from health authorities. Only scientists can confirm this and theres no harm in staying safe right? We've got experience from dealing with COVID, so it's about staying smart and being ready for whatever comes our way. Every country should cooperate.

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December 07, 2023, 03:32:40 PM
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It is not about any new pandemic or virus, but about the fact that years of crazy measures such as wearing masks and isolation and high levels of stress have led to the fact that people (especially children) have lost their natural defense against diseases to which they were otherwise resistant. Otherwise, it's not only happening in China, but everywhere in the world - the focus is only on China, considering that everything started from there, so most people assume that the next "world virus" will also come from there.

Benjamin Cowling, an epidemiologist at the University of Hong Kong, is not surprised by the wave of illness. “This is a typical ‘winter surge’ in acute respiratory infections,” he says. “It is happening slightly earlier this year, perhaps because of increased population susceptibility to respiratory infections resulting from three years of COVID measures.” The rebound in common respiratory diseases during the first winter after the loosening of pandemic measures — such as mask-wearing and travel restrictions — has been a familiar pattern in other countries. In November 2022, the number of people hospitalized with flu in the United States was the highest it had been for that time of year since 2010.

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December 07, 2023, 04:41:57 PM
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If necessary, Pandemic 2.0 will be launched very quickly. Perhaps as soon as the pandemic agreement is signed, which is being actively promoted by the World Health Organization, which has already played an ominous role in 2020. All the mechanisms of interaction have already been fine-tuned
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December 07, 2023, 09:35:57 PM
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That's true, whenever there's another report from the WHO that will be made public, then all of the government units are going to be wary and alert again. What's just sad is that there have been politicians that takes advantage of these situations, even if they're doing what's good for the health awareness but in terms of budget releases, of course what's on my mind can also be thought of those that have been looking into these politicians and monitors what they do.
They will take the opportunity to start harvesting money back with various kinds of drug purchase recommendations or something.
And the most predictable thing is that supporting tools for preventing covid such as hand sanitizers and masks will start to soar again in price, this will be a very profitable business for them.
As what it was supposed to be a great reset last pandemic, are we going to get another one since they haven't done yet with the accumulation or whatever purpose that's good for them? The sales for these medical supplies have dropped a lot when the pandemic has lied low, it's true that face masks are no longer required, there goes the vaccines that are for sell as well.

But, even if the WHO makes announcements of new variants or something like that, people will respond to it like the Common Flu and not like in the early days of the pandemic.

I don't think much about that either, I've also had 3 covid vaccinations and when I have to get vaccinated again see how the world reacts to it.
It's like a game that starts again, but the participants don't want to play anymore.
Yeah, this is true and they cannot do that much against the will of the people. It's like a game from these big pharma companies together with WHO who implements the policies and whatever needs to be taken. There are other concerns that should be done especially in poor countries where diseases are rampant like cholera, and other epidemic that's unlikely to stop.

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December 07, 2023, 09:54:36 PM
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If necessary, Pandemic 2.0 will be launched very quickly. Perhaps as soon as the pandemic agreement is signed, which is being actively promoted by the World Health Organization, which has already played an ominous role in 2020. All the mechanisms of interaction have already been fine-tuned
We know what to do already to avoid this pandemic again, but if its necessary and that could be a big threat again to the humanity then the government should do action about this and don’t do the same mistake again especially that many are still suffering economically and some are still recovering. The economy will surely be affected again if there’s a new pandemic, crypto will also not be safe from such panic.

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December 07, 2023, 10:00:04 PM
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It's really scary to hear about the undiagnosed respiratory disease affecting children in China. The covid 19 feels is coming back to me. While it's important to stay informed, it's also crucial to rely on official health organizations for updates and guidance. Let’s not make fakenews prevail. We can try to maintain good hygiene practices, staying informed about the situation through reliable sources, and following any recommendations from health authorities. Only scientists can confirm this and theres no harm in staying safe right? We've got experience from dealing with COVID, so it's about staying smart and being ready for whatever comes our way. Every country should cooperate.
This is very important, we must not easily believe any news that has not been clearly proven, just look at what happened during the past Covid 19, there was a lot of bad news circulating and everything seemed to make it clear that there was a big interest behind the emergence covid 19 pandemic.  i haven't found out more details about the new disease that is rumored to be the cause of the next lockdown, as ordinary people, we can only prepare ourselves well and always filter all information circulating on social media.

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December 07, 2023, 10:16:16 PM
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Is this the walking pneumonia they'd been talking about in the news lately? Kinda scary if you'd ask me. Although it's been known to be a less serious form of the disease pneumonia, the fact that it's still contagious and you could pass it to someone else with just as little as a droplet of saliva is what makes me scared about it. I say we let the scientists do the work first to figure out if this is any cause for major concern, but if it were, we might have to stay indoors and live our lives like a hermit once again.

For the meantime, stay less outside, make sure you wear facemasks, and for the love of god worry about the economy after you've made yourself safe.
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December 07, 2023, 11:19:34 PM
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There are other concerns that should be done especially in poor countries where diseases are rampant like cholera, and other epidemic that's unlikely to stop.
All parties must work together, but can some parties be trusted?
Covid which was originally a Pandemic is now transitioning into an Epidemic and this virus will still exist.

Some other epidemics such as Cholera must also be watched out for its spread, it could be an epidemic that cannot be stopped.
But when everyone has got the vaccine, it's the first protection.



Is this the walking pneumonia they'd been talking about in the news lately? Kinda scary if you'd ask me. Although it's been known to be a less serious form of the disease pneumonia, the fact that it's still contagious and you could pass it to someone else with just as little as a droplet of saliva is what makes me scared about it. I say we let the scientists do the work first to figure out if this is any cause for major concern, but if it were, we might have to stay indoors and live our lives like a hermit once again.

For the meantime, stay less outside, make sure you wear facemasks, and for the love of god worry about the economy after you've made yourself safe.
Just stay alert and stay healthy.
Sometimes the news that appears too vulgar provides information about new variants or something.
Though pneumonia has become a common disease, but everyone's symptoms are different.

This is also supported by the change of seasons that make the body's resistance decrease.
When you live healthy, eat nutritious food and are fully vaccinated, there is nothing to worry about.

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December 07, 2023, 11:22:14 PM
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Is this the walking pneumonia they'd been talking about in the news lately? Kinda scary if you'd ask me. Although it's been known to be a less serious form of the disease pneumonia, the fact that it's still contagious and you could pass it to someone else with just as little as a droplet of saliva is what makes me scared about it. I say we let the scientists do the work first to figure out if this is any cause for major concern, but if it were, we might have to stay indoors and live our lives like a hermit once again.

For the meantime, stay less outside, make sure you wear facemasks, and for the love of god worry about the economy after you've made yourself safe.

So we are not yet out of using masks. I guess this is indeed the new normal these days.
We always need to wear mask in order to protect ourself from unnecessary contagious diseases.
Also, as much as possible, don't go in crowded places where you have no idea what you can catch around.
It is not that you are paranoid, but there's no harm done if you are just taking care of yourself.
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The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
Although I don't have accurate information about this new epidemic, I think the media is exaggerating this issue. Maybe we're past the fear of what's happened, and now a certain sign can make everyone confused, but honestly I feel like what we just went through gives us hope and enough experience to cope with challenges. But anyway, I am waiting for clear information on this issue, but I think maybe things are calming down now. Since the news started to spread until now, it seems like everything is under control, and there is not much relevant information about the severity.
Media wants news and if everything is peaceful there won't be anything much to broadcast. Understanding this media tries to create regular news out of a same topic. This is where things gets exaggerated. However this time it isn't very big and the information regarding the epidemic hadn't spread widely same as that of the COVID. Things were under control and everytime it is China to have these problems addressed initially.
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December 08, 2023, 04:06:31 AM
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Unfortunately this Pneumonia outbreak has spread to several countries in Asia, and the worse news is that Covid Case in Singapore is spiking again last week, with currently bad geopolitic condition in the west & middle east, if we got another pandemic even in smaller scale than the last Covid, the global economy will be much worse than 2020 and I strongly believe that it will be much much harder to recover from that.

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here we go again, why does it have to come from China for all kinds of deadly diseases, hopefully it doesn't become a new pandemic because it's really miserable being at home without the opportunity to work to earn money, I'm becoming increasingly suspicious that the diseases that have the potential to be caused by this pandemic will continue to be released in once every 4 or 5 years, we as citizens will of course continue to lose, we are injected with fluids that we don't know whether they are good for our bodies.
Why does it have to be from China? I'm not surprised that all virus outbreaks come from there because they like to eat raw food, so now raw food has become increasingly popular and has even become a trend. Maybe this is one of the reasons or maybe it's because of business because they sell vaccines like yesterday's Covid, many say this is just a conspiracy for the vaccine business.

Even so, I think every country should refuse the entry of Chinese tourists and workers into their country. This may be common in children, but adults can carry the virus and attack others without realizing it. If an outbreak or virus occurs, of course the economy will be affected. Therefore, we must remain vigilant from learning from Covid cases. It is better to prevent and be careful.

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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
I don't think it is another pandemic because the officials of China are saying they did not detect any unusual pathogens inside these kids, and if it would be some new pandemic then why it is following age discrimination means why it is choosing only kids, I think I agree with there only theory that when winter comes a wave of viruses like pneumonia comes and these kids have lower immune system due to the quarantine time during Covid-19,

If these children have weak immune and that's the only reason they are becoming sick then I don't think it a difficult task to help these children recover their immune to a stronger one. I hope they will get well soon and they already have seen a lot like Covid-19, Quarantine, etc. I hope these kids won't face another pandemic in their whole life. And To be honest, I think its too early for a pandemic to come, I was thinking a few days back that if Covid was artificially to do some business then those who are behind it must have done a hell lot of business so I don't think there would be any other artificial pandemic any soon, as there is no need to do business again, they would have made hell lot of money. At least I hope so, and now I am reading this news, Allah saves us.

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December 08, 2023, 05:29:46 AM
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Honestly speaking, if I analyze the current COVID pandemic, it is done to really reduce the number of living people around the world. The population is actually too large. Now, in order to reduce people, they used COVID-19, and it seems that whoever thought of it succeeded.

Why did I say, here in our country, how many people have COVID-19? But I never once heard of anyone in our country who died as a beggar because of COVID when they were just living on the streets. So, it means that the COVID-19 disease that they say is just made up by people to make money and abused by government officials as well; that's what happened here to us. Then, there it is again. I think humanity is awake and aware of the truth.

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December 08, 2023, 06:22:39 AM
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Honestly speaking, if I analyze the current COVID pandemic, it is done to really reduce the number of living people around the world. The population is actually too large. Now, in order to reduce people, they used COVID-19, and it seems that whoever thought of it succeeded.

Why did I say, here in our country, how many people have COVID-19? But I never once heard of anyone in our country who died as a beggar because of COVID when they were just living on the streets. So, it means that the COVID-19 disease that they say is just made up by people to make money and abused by government officials as well; that's what happened here to us. Then, there it is again. I think humanity is awake and aware of the truth.
Thoughts like that are possible, but unfortunately we can't do anything about it, considering that in my area those who die from Covid definitely die in hospital. I don't know what the real conspiracy is, but that's the reality, whereas every time someone is taken to the hospital, almost all of them are declared Covid, there are many stories that in the isolation room they are not cured but are stressed because of the isolation situation.

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December 08, 2023, 11:07:15 PM
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There are other concerns that should be done especially in poor countries where diseases are rampant like cholera, and other epidemic that's unlikely to stop.
All parties must work together, but can some parties be trusted?
Covid which was originally a Pandemic is now transitioning into an Epidemic and this virus will still exist.

Some other epidemics such as Cholera must also be watched out for its spread, it could be an epidemic that cannot be stopped.
But when everyone has got the vaccine, it's the first protection.
That's true, COVID-19 is going to live with us forever but just not as strong as it was before. And just like those diseases that are in epidemics in some parts of the world, they're fatal as well but the WHO seems to disregard those and don't focus monitoring on them. But sadly, those that affected by those diseases and people who are living with them seem to be immune to what's with them.

And like what we're living right now together with covid-19 virus. These viruses will just flow in the air, the airborne diseases and waiting to contain another host. These days are unhealthy. We're just done with the other and there goes the others that will live with us forever. Scaring but we need to deal with the reality and we need to strengthen not just our body, minds, souls but also our pockets.

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December 08, 2023, 11:32:00 PM
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Unfortunately this Pneumonia outbreak has spread to several countries in Asia, and the worse news is that Covid Case in Singapore is spiking again last week, with currently bad geopolitic condition in the west & middle east, if we got another pandemic even in smaller scale than the last Covid, the global economy will be much worse than 2020 and I strongly believe that it will be much much harder to recover from that.
Covid in Singapore should be preventable because they often use masks for activities outside the home, but this country is also famous for its hard workers, meaning they lack time to rest so that their immune system starts to weaken, which ultimately makes it easier for the virus to enter the body without realizing it. They were exposed to COVID again, and strangely, I'm sure many have been vaccinated to prevent COVID transmission again, but why this could happen again, I don't know for sure.

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December 09, 2023, 10:52:19 AM
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Honestly speaking, if I analyze the current COVID pandemic, it is done to really reduce the number of living people around the world. The population is actually too large. Now, in order to reduce people, they used COVID-19, and it seems that whoever thought of it succeeded.

Why did I say, here in our country, how many people have COVID-19? But I never once heard of anyone in our country who died as a beggar because of COVID when they were just living on the streets. So, it means that the COVID-19 disease that they say is just made up by people to make money and abused by government officials as well; that's what happened here to us. Then, there it is again. I think humanity is awake and aware of the truth.

May be this is true because I have saw people in hospital who did not show any symptoms of covid but still they died in a hospital and the faculty show that the person died due to Corona pandemic. We are not saying that Corona was lie but some people loss their lives due to irresponsible faculty of hospital.

The reason of Corona was a virus so I also never saw an individuals working in street or selling vegetables and fruits are not effected by Corona virus although they are more exposed to polluted environment. I don't know what is the reason and aim of the people who spread the news about corona but it kills alot of individuals over the world.









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December 09, 2023, 11:26:34 AM
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So far, things are unclear and there is no confirmation or denial from China, but I personally do not rule out the spread of a new epidemic in the world, especially since the side effects of the previous Covid vaccine are not precisely known yet.

Here in my country, people are circulating news of the spread of a strange type of influenza at the beginning of the winter season that seems to be more severe than usual, but there is no official confirmation or denial from government medical authorities.

No one wants to spread panic or go back to quarantine, as happened with the Covid virus. Humanity has suffered greatly from this epidemic, and I hope that there will not be a new epidemic.

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