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December 06, 2023, 08:25:39 PM
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Just some news from a little over a week ago:
 - An "undiagnosed respiratory disease" that causes pneumonia in children is spreading widely in China. Large queues are gathering at hospitals across the country, The Telegraph wrote on Thursday, November 23.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/china-disease-latest-who-covid-infection-children/

 - The World Health Organization has requested all available information from China about pockets of pneumonia of unknown origin that has reportedly started spreading among children in the north of the country.

According to Chinese non-state media, pediatric hospitals in some parts of the country are overflowing with sick children.
Chinese authorities attribute the spike in flu cases this season to the lifting of anti-vaccine measures.
WHO urges Chinese residents to take measures to reduce the risk of spreading the infection.

- The Chinese social network Weibo publishes videos of long queues at hospitals in Xi'an, Beijing and other major cities. Medics are warning parents to expect treatment for up to 13 hours, and about 700 people may be waiting to see a doctor.

Two issues:

1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?

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December 06, 2023, 10:46:22 PM
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Seems like fear-mongering to me. COVID has been swept under the rag for a year now and people have seem to move on from this issue. I guess, this will be sensationalized once the authenticity of this reports get validated. People will then move to panicking phase and might even cause a lot of panic to other people. That will start a domino effect that will soon translate to the economy, or worse, another set of lockdowns.

Hopefully though it isn't real. I'll never want to be locked inside of my house ever again.

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December 06, 2023, 11:12:38 PM
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here we go again, why does it have to come from China for all kinds of deadly diseases, hopefully it doesn't become a new pandemic because it's really miserable being at home without the opportunity to work to earn money, I'm becoming increasingly suspicious that the diseases that have the potential to be caused by this pandemic will continue to be released in once every 4 or 5 years, we as citizens will of course continue to lose, we are injected with fluids that we don't know whether they are good for our bodies.



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December 07, 2023, 12:00:16 AM
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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
Another new pandemic will be very terrible, It will not only affect  how can we prepare for it?

Number one is to stay healthy because from observation of the last pandemic, the people who were healthy had an advantage over others who were more susceptible with respiratory diseases and others. If it is possible for you, you can start planning for a secluded settlement away from people and then buy and keep safe food items, health items, and some other survival supplies.   

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Two issues:

1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?


1. Looking back again on that pandemic, it was truly devasting and now we are possibly be able to get another one? How to get prepared?
Health protocol would be surely be strictly be followed just like on what happened on that Covid pandemic in the past. We dont know if this current
pneumonic illness would be more severe or would be lesser but lets hope that it would really be just mild.

2. Im not really that shocked whenever we do have something new illness or whatever sickness do really comes from China. It isnt some sort of criticizing but it seems
they do really love on spreading disease which it could possibly came from on what they do eat or what.

For now there's no confirmation whether this one would really be that becoming again to be a pandemic(hopefully not). We've been recovering
into that previous covid situation even up to now, if it turns out that there would be another one then we should really be needing to be prepared.

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I am not surprised about the news of Covid 19 still making a bearing in the society despite the fact that vaccines has been effected to combat its spread.
China is one of the host countries to have occasioned its spread among other viruses of such and it's just so sad that it has now adapter itself to affect kids without as much body immunity against it.

The economy is changing on a steady basis as reported by various news outlets and as such I wouldn't be surprised the amount of nations, including mine, willing to join the BRICS countries to adopt a currency devoid of dollar manipulation or inflation in the nearest future.

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The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
Although I don't have accurate information about this new epidemic, I think the media is exaggerating this issue. Maybe we're past the fear of what's happened, and now a certain sign can make everyone confused, but honestly I feel like what we just went through gives us hope and enough experience to cope with challenges. But anyway, I am waiting for clear information on this issue, but I think maybe things are calming down now. Since the news started to spread until now, it seems like everything is under control, and there is not much relevant information about the severity.









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Let us hope that this is not the case and that it does not end up becoming a new COVID, a new epidemic that affects the whole world and we go back to the restrictions and all the measures that were in place.

- An "undiagnosed respiratory disease" that causes pneumonia in children is spreading widely in China.
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According to Chinese non-state media, pediatric hospitals in some parts of the country are overflowing with sick children.
Chinese authorities attribute the spike in flu cases this season to the lifting of anti-vaccine measures.

Hopefully, if this is the cause, normal vaccination will be resumed and cases will be reduced.

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The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
Although I don't have accurate information about this new epidemic, I think the media is exaggerating this issue. Maybe we're past the fear of what's happened, and now a certain sign can make everyone confused, but honestly I feel like what we just went through gives us hope and enough experience to cope with challenges. But anyway, I am waiting for clear information on this issue, but I think maybe things are calming down now. Since the news started to spread until now, it seems like everything is under control, and there is not much relevant information about the severity.

Mitigation against future threats must exist and be prepared early because whatever it is, it requires preparation. However, I think the possibility of another new pandemic as big as COVID-19 is still uncertain and transparency is the key.

The issue that is before our eyes is a food crisis that must be prepared for so that people do not experience hunger and are vulnerable to attacks from various diseases.

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Seems like fear-mongering to me. COVID has been swept under the rag for a year now and people have seem to move on from this issue. I guess, this will be sensationalized once the authenticity of this reports get validated. People will then move to panicking phase and might even cause a lot of panic to other people. That will start a domino effect that will soon translate to the economy, or worse, another set of lockdowns.

Hopefully though it isn't real. I'll never want to be locked inside of my house ever again.

The problem is that Covid has been hushed up for a long time, pretending that "it's no big deal" and the world didn't prepare for a pandemic. We know the results, they are very sad.... At that time, the main affected audience (the highest mortality rate) was the elderly. Here, in the current situation, I was very confused that now the audience is children, and China again pretends that it is not a problem, does not involve anyone in its solution, already having the past negative experience. I do not want to repeat what happened in the world under Covid.....
 

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December 07, 2023, 08:01:55 AM
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The world hasn't fully recovered yet and we've got some of this news? Not to blame China but isn't this season should really be where everyone needs to take precautionary measures as diseases can easily fly on the air and contain, many air-borne diseases are there.

But if it gets worse and it's making people fall in line in hospitals, we still need to know if those hospitals have got enough staff and doctors as that could be a factor of the line.

Anyway, whether this is true or not. I'm able to read some news that this December season should make everyone take more care to themselves and be healthier because viruses these days are stronger than the past ones. I'll get it straight that the world can no longer afford to have another pandemic.

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Seems like fear-mongering to me.
The same to me, I remember the old news that we've got these "new strains" of the COVID-19 virus that have given me more anxiety if this is going to stop or will continue. And that's why all of those time, I'm afraid to get out because I don't think that I'll ever be safe when I go to public but then, everything seems to calm down and back to normal again and even with such news about these new strains, everyone seems to not care at all anymore.

COVID has been swept under the rag for a year now and people have seem to move on from this issue. I guess, this will be sensationalized once the authenticity of this reports get validated. People will then move to panicking phase and might even cause a lot of panic to other people. That will start a domino effect that will soon translate to the economy, or worse, another set of lockdowns.

Hopefully though it isn't real. I'll never want to be locked inside of my house ever again.
That's true, whenever there's another report from the WHO that will be made public, then all of the government units are going to be wary and alert again. What's just sad is that there have been politicians that takes advantage of these situations, even if they're doing what's good for the health awareness but in terms of budget releases, of course what's on my mind can also be thought of those that have been looking into these politicians and monitors what they do.

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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
After the rapid disappearance of covid-19 pandemic and the economic and social problems witnessed by the quarantine, I find it difficult for countries to take the same measures of lockdown and working from home, especially since I know some friends who believe in the conspiracy theory and that they did not receive vaccines and yet were not infected with the pandemic. It will be convincing these people will be more difficult.


News coming from China needs to be reviewed by independent sources because some media outlets either try to downplay its importance or there is a false exaggeration of the statement that China is a failed state.

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That's true, whenever there's another report from the WHO that will be made public, then all of the government units are going to be wary and alert again. What's just sad is that there have been politicians that takes advantage of these situations, even if they're doing what's good for the health awareness but in terms of budget releases, of course what's on my mind can also be thought of those that have been looking into these politicians and monitors what they do.
They will take the opportunity to start harvesting money back with various kinds of drug purchase recommendations or something.
And the most predictable thing is that supporting tools for preventing covid such as hand sanitizers and masks will start to soar again in price, this will be a very profitable business for them.

But, even if the WHO makes announcements of new variants or something like that, people will respond to it like the Common Flu and not like in the early days of the pandemic.

I don't think much about that either, I've also had 3 covid vaccinations and when I have to get vaccinated again see how the world reacts to it.
It's like a game that starts again, but the participants don't want to play anymore.

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It's not surprising China always become the first country that found a new virus or disease since they're willing to eat disgusting foods.



Although the whole economy already recovered and there are a lot flows in investment, but it's not yet stable and the number of total unemployment is still high. If there's a new virus or new Covid wave, it will be a chaos since the world isn't ready yet.

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December 07, 2023, 11:59:12 AM
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Nope, this is just another diversion for sure to cover up something or to alter the public's attention to this kind of made up story.

After COVID-19, there's a lot of stories about new spreading diseases that might be another pandemic but didn't last long enough in the news or in social media. Though, prevention is better than cure, it's much better to be safe than sorry. However, when conflicts are happening around the world, maybe this is just indeed to alter public's attention for them not to panic.
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I would not believe anything coming out from China through the recognised media channels. What you see, might be very different than the reality. So if you are seeing long use in front of pediatric hospitals, the actual situation might be 10 times more worse.

You never know if the World awaits another epidemic. But the economy is still recovering. So if the world goes into another phase of lockdown, then it might take way longer to recover from another low point.

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Nope, this is just another diversion for sure to cover up something or to alter the public's attention to this kind of made up story.

After COVID-19, there's a lot of stories about new spreading diseases that might be another pandemic but didn't last long enough in the news or in social media. Though, prevention is better than cure, it's much better to be safe than sorry. However, when conflicts are happening around the world, maybe this is just indeed to alter public's attention for them not to panic.
We don't know if this is one of their schemes to alter the public's attention to hide something, but this seems to be alerting. There's a photograph of kids in a hospital trying to cure themselves. This news might be a made-up story, or what they are up to. But everyone must be careful so what happened in the previous pandemic will not happen again.

The pandemic affected the whole world, and we are still in the process of recovering. We should stay alert at all times in case there are some cases like this, and we should act fast by following the guidelines from the government.


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There have been rumors everywhere, both on social media and in the mass media, saying that there will be a re-emergence of an outbreak and potentially the next pandemic. At first I was a little skeptical, but after I found out that there were some scientists who backed up the argument, I became a little worried that the world was in danger. And to be honest, the impact of the covid-19 outbreak is still unfinished and still lingering today. Where the economy has not yet stabilized and trade is still hampered. And if the next outbreak of the disease is worse than yesterday, then the economy and trade will never fully recover.

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Hopefully, there will be no new global pandemic that will attack us like the Covid pandemic. It will attack many countries once again and I am not sure that any of them will be able to survive because there are still many countries that have not been able to recover their economies. That would be a heavy blow to those countries.

We can only strengthen our body's immune system by taking supplements that can help maintain the body's resistance to attacks by various viruses. After the Covid pandemic ends, we are advised to always live healthily by consuming healthy food. Of course, if a pandemic attacks globally, pharmaceutical companies will get maximum profits like last Covid.

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I would have dismissed it as nothing big, but it's hard to do that after the pandemic that showed that sometimes things can get huge. Of course, it may not be as serious as the Covid pandemic was, but it's hard to know for sure.
Since we've just went through a pandemic, I think next time will be much easier because people already know the basics and have an experience of social distancing, regular testing, wearing masks and all that. But, as I'm currently in Ukraine (and perhaps the op is also in Ukraine), I think the pandemic would be especially challenging for military action and everything related to sustaining the army, not to mention that people probably would not take another pandemic seriously enough when there are air alerts and drone attacks, you know.

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It's really scary to hear about the undiagnosed respiratory disease affecting children in China. The covid 19 feels is coming back to me. While it's important to stay informed, it's also crucial to rely on official health organizations for updates and guidance. Let’s not make fakenews prevail. We can try to maintain good hygiene practices, staying informed about the situation through reliable sources, and following any recommendations from health authorities. Only scientists can confirm this and theres no harm in staying safe right? We've got experience from dealing with COVID, so it's about staying smart and being ready for whatever comes our way. Every country should cooperate.

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It is not about any new pandemic or virus, but about the fact that years of crazy measures such as wearing masks and isolation and high levels of stress have led to the fact that people (especially children) have lost their natural defense against diseases to which they were otherwise resistant. Otherwise, it's not only happening in China, but everywhere in the world - the focus is only on China, considering that everything started from there, so most people assume that the next "world virus" will also come from there.

Benjamin Cowling, an epidemiologist at the University of Hong Kong, is not surprised by the wave of illness. “This is a typical ‘winter surge’ in acute respiratory infections,” he says. “It is happening slightly earlier this year, perhaps because of increased population susceptibility to respiratory infections resulting from three years of COVID measures.” The rebound in common respiratory diseases during the first winter after the loosening of pandemic measures — such as mask-wearing and travel restrictions — has been a familiar pattern in other countries. In November 2022, the number of people hospitalized with flu in the United States was the highest it had been for that time of year since 2010.

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If necessary, Pandemic 2.0 will be launched very quickly. Perhaps as soon as the pandemic agreement is signed, which is being actively promoted by the World Health Organization, which has already played an ominous role in 2020. All the mechanisms of interaction have already been fine-tuned
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That's true, whenever there's another report from the WHO that will be made public, then all of the government units are going to be wary and alert again. What's just sad is that there have been politicians that takes advantage of these situations, even if they're doing what's good for the health awareness but in terms of budget releases, of course what's on my mind can also be thought of those that have been looking into these politicians and monitors what they do.
They will take the opportunity to start harvesting money back with various kinds of drug purchase recommendations or something.
And the most predictable thing is that supporting tools for preventing covid such as hand sanitizers and masks will start to soar again in price, this will be a very profitable business for them.
As what it was supposed to be a great reset last pandemic, are we going to get another one since they haven't done yet with the accumulation or whatever purpose that's good for them? The sales for these medical supplies have dropped a lot when the pandemic has lied low, it's true that face masks are no longer required, there goes the vaccines that are for sell as well.

But, even if the WHO makes announcements of new variants or something like that, people will respond to it like the Common Flu and not like in the early days of the pandemic.

I don't think much about that either, I've also had 3 covid vaccinations and when I have to get vaccinated again see how the world reacts to it.
It's like a game that starts again, but the participants don't want to play anymore.
Yeah, this is true and they cannot do that much against the will of the people. It's like a game from these big pharma companies together with WHO who implements the policies and whatever needs to be taken. There are other concerns that should be done especially in poor countries where diseases are rampant like cholera, and other epidemic that's unlikely to stop.

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December 07, 2023, 09:54:36 PM
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If necessary, Pandemic 2.0 will be launched very quickly. Perhaps as soon as the pandemic agreement is signed, which is being actively promoted by the World Health Organization, which has already played an ominous role in 2020. All the mechanisms of interaction have already been fine-tuned
We know what to do already to avoid this pandemic again, but if its necessary and that could be a big threat again to the humanity then the government should do action about this and don’t do the same mistake again especially that many are still suffering economically and some are still recovering. The economy will surely be affected again if there’s a new pandemic, crypto will also not be safe from such panic.

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It's really scary to hear about the undiagnosed respiratory disease affecting children in China. The covid 19 feels is coming back to me. While it's important to stay informed, it's also crucial to rely on official health organizations for updates and guidance. Let’s not make fakenews prevail. We can try to maintain good hygiene practices, staying informed about the situation through reliable sources, and following any recommendations from health authorities. Only scientists can confirm this and theres no harm in staying safe right? We've got experience from dealing with COVID, so it's about staying smart and being ready for whatever comes our way. Every country should cooperate.
This is very important, we must not easily believe any news that has not been clearly proven, just look at what happened during the past Covid 19, there was a lot of bad news circulating and everything seemed to make it clear that there was a big interest behind the emergence covid 19 pandemic.  i haven't found out more details about the new disease that is rumored to be the cause of the next lockdown, as ordinary people, we can only prepare ourselves well and always filter all information circulating on social media.

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Is this the walking pneumonia they'd been talking about in the news lately? Kinda scary if you'd ask me. Although it's been known to be a less serious form of the disease pneumonia, the fact that it's still contagious and you could pass it to someone else with just as little as a droplet of saliva is what makes me scared about it. I say we let the scientists do the work first to figure out if this is any cause for major concern, but if it were, we might have to stay indoors and live our lives like a hermit once again.

For the meantime, stay less outside, make sure you wear facemasks, and for the love of god worry about the economy after you've made yourself safe.
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There are other concerns that should be done especially in poor countries where diseases are rampant like cholera, and other epidemic that's unlikely to stop.
All parties must work together, but can some parties be trusted?
Covid which was originally a Pandemic is now transitioning into an Epidemic and this virus will still exist.

Some other epidemics such as Cholera must also be watched out for its spread, it could be an epidemic that cannot be stopped.
But when everyone has got the vaccine, it's the first protection.



Is this the walking pneumonia they'd been talking about in the news lately? Kinda scary if you'd ask me. Although it's been known to be a less serious form of the disease pneumonia, the fact that it's still contagious and you could pass it to someone else with just as little as a droplet of saliva is what makes me scared about it. I say we let the scientists do the work first to figure out if this is any cause for major concern, but if it were, we might have to stay indoors and live our lives like a hermit once again.

For the meantime, stay less outside, make sure you wear facemasks, and for the love of god worry about the economy after you've made yourself safe.
Just stay alert and stay healthy.
Sometimes the news that appears too vulgar provides information about new variants or something.
Though pneumonia has become a common disease, but everyone's symptoms are different.

This is also supported by the change of seasons that make the body's resistance decrease.
When you live healthy, eat nutritious food and are fully vaccinated, there is nothing to worry about.

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Is this the walking pneumonia they'd been talking about in the news lately? Kinda scary if you'd ask me. Although it's been known to be a less serious form of the disease pneumonia, the fact that it's still contagious and you could pass it to someone else with just as little as a droplet of saliva is what makes me scared about it. I say we let the scientists do the work first to figure out if this is any cause for major concern, but if it were, we might have to stay indoors and live our lives like a hermit once again.

For the meantime, stay less outside, make sure you wear facemasks, and for the love of god worry about the economy after you've made yourself safe.

So we are not yet out of using masks. I guess this is indeed the new normal these days.
We always need to wear mask in order to protect ourself from unnecessary contagious diseases.
Also, as much as possible, don't go in crowded places where you have no idea what you can catch around.
It is not that you are paranoid, but there's no harm done if you are just taking care of yourself.
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The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
Although I don't have accurate information about this new epidemic, I think the media is exaggerating this issue. Maybe we're past the fear of what's happened, and now a certain sign can make everyone confused, but honestly I feel like what we just went through gives us hope and enough experience to cope with challenges. But anyway, I am waiting for clear information on this issue, but I think maybe things are calming down now. Since the news started to spread until now, it seems like everything is under control, and there is not much relevant information about the severity.
Media wants news and if everything is peaceful there won't be anything much to broadcast. Understanding this media tries to create regular news out of a same topic. This is where things gets exaggerated. However this time it isn't very big and the information regarding the epidemic hadn't spread widely same as that of the COVID. Things were under control and everytime it is China to have these problems addressed initially.
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Unfortunately this Pneumonia outbreak has spread to several countries in Asia, and the worse news is that Covid Case in Singapore is spiking again last week, with currently bad geopolitic condition in the west & middle east, if we got another pandemic even in smaller scale than the last Covid, the global economy will be much worse than 2020 and I strongly believe that it will be much much harder to recover from that.

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here we go again, why does it have to come from China for all kinds of deadly diseases, hopefully it doesn't become a new pandemic because it's really miserable being at home without the opportunity to work to earn money, I'm becoming increasingly suspicious that the diseases that have the potential to be caused by this pandemic will continue to be released in once every 4 or 5 years, we as citizens will of course continue to lose, we are injected with fluids that we don't know whether they are good for our bodies.
Why does it have to be from China? I'm not surprised that all virus outbreaks come from there because they like to eat raw food, so now raw food has become increasingly popular and has even become a trend. Maybe this is one of the reasons or maybe it's because of business because they sell vaccines like yesterday's Covid, many say this is just a conspiracy for the vaccine business.

Even so, I think every country should refuse the entry of Chinese tourists and workers into their country. This may be common in children, but adults can carry the virus and attack others without realizing it. If an outbreak or virus occurs, of course the economy will be affected. Therefore, we must remain vigilant from learning from Covid cases. It is better to prevent and be careful.

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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
I don't think it is another pandemic because the officials of China are saying they did not detect any unusual pathogens inside these kids, and if it would be some new pandemic then why it is following age discrimination means why it is choosing only kids, I think I agree with there only theory that when winter comes a wave of viruses like pneumonia comes and these kids have lower immune system due to the quarantine time during Covid-19,

If these children have weak immune and that's the only reason they are becoming sick then I don't think it a difficult task to help these children recover their immune to a stronger one. I hope they will get well soon and they already have seen a lot like Covid-19, Quarantine, etc. I hope these kids won't face another pandemic in their whole life. And To be honest, I think its too early for a pandemic to come, I was thinking a few days back that if Covid was artificially to do some business then those who are behind it must have done a hell lot of business so I don't think there would be any other artificial pandemic any soon, as there is no need to do business again, they would have made hell lot of money. At least I hope so, and now I am reading this news, Allah saves us.

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Honestly speaking, if I analyze the current COVID pandemic, it is done to really reduce the number of living people around the world. The population is actually too large. Now, in order to reduce people, they used COVID-19, and it seems that whoever thought of it succeeded.

Why did I say, here in our country, how many people have COVID-19? But I never once heard of anyone in our country who died as a beggar because of COVID when they were just living on the streets. So, it means that the COVID-19 disease that they say is just made up by people to make money and abused by government officials as well; that's what happened here to us. Then, there it is again. I think humanity is awake and aware of the truth.

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December 08, 2023, 06:22:39 AM
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Honestly speaking, if I analyze the current COVID pandemic, it is done to really reduce the number of living people around the world. The population is actually too large. Now, in order to reduce people, they used COVID-19, and it seems that whoever thought of it succeeded.

Why did I say, here in our country, how many people have COVID-19? But I never once heard of anyone in our country who died as a beggar because of COVID when they were just living on the streets. So, it means that the COVID-19 disease that they say is just made up by people to make money and abused by government officials as well; that's what happened here to us. Then, there it is again. I think humanity is awake and aware of the truth.
Thoughts like that are possible, but unfortunately we can't do anything about it, considering that in my area those who die from Covid definitely die in hospital. I don't know what the real conspiracy is, but that's the reality, whereas every time someone is taken to the hospital, almost all of them are declared Covid, there are many stories that in the isolation room they are not cured but are stressed because of the isolation situation.

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There are other concerns that should be done especially in poor countries where diseases are rampant like cholera, and other epidemic that's unlikely to stop.
All parties must work together, but can some parties be trusted?
Covid which was originally a Pandemic is now transitioning into an Epidemic and this virus will still exist.

Some other epidemics such as Cholera must also be watched out for its spread, it could be an epidemic that cannot be stopped.
But when everyone has got the vaccine, it's the first protection.
That's true, COVID-19 is going to live with us forever but just not as strong as it was before. And just like those diseases that are in epidemics in some parts of the world, they're fatal as well but the WHO seems to disregard those and don't focus monitoring on them. But sadly, those that affected by those diseases and people who are living with them seem to be immune to what's with them.

And like what we're living right now together with covid-19 virus. These viruses will just flow in the air, the airborne diseases and waiting to contain another host. These days are unhealthy. We're just done with the other and there goes the others that will live with us forever. Scaring but we need to deal with the reality and we need to strengthen not just our body, minds, souls but also our pockets.

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Unfortunately this Pneumonia outbreak has spread to several countries in Asia, and the worse news is that Covid Case in Singapore is spiking again last week, with currently bad geopolitic condition in the west & middle east, if we got another pandemic even in smaller scale than the last Covid, the global economy will be much worse than 2020 and I strongly believe that it will be much much harder to recover from that.
Covid in Singapore should be preventable because they often use masks for activities outside the home, but this country is also famous for its hard workers, meaning they lack time to rest so that their immune system starts to weaken, which ultimately makes it easier for the virus to enter the body without realizing it. They were exposed to COVID again, and strangely, I'm sure many have been vaccinated to prevent COVID transmission again, but why this could happen again, I don't know for sure.

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Honestly speaking, if I analyze the current COVID pandemic, it is done to really reduce the number of living people around the world. The population is actually too large. Now, in order to reduce people, they used COVID-19, and it seems that whoever thought of it succeeded.

Why did I say, here in our country, how many people have COVID-19? But I never once heard of anyone in our country who died as a beggar because of COVID when they were just living on the streets. So, it means that the COVID-19 disease that they say is just made up by people to make money and abused by government officials as well; that's what happened here to us. Then, there it is again. I think humanity is awake and aware of the truth.

May be this is true because I have saw people in hospital who did not show any symptoms of covid but still they died in a hospital and the faculty show that the person died due to Corona pandemic. We are not saying that Corona was lie but some people loss their lives due to irresponsible faculty of hospital.

The reason of Corona was a virus so I also never saw an individuals working in street or selling vegetables and fruits are not effected by Corona virus although they are more exposed to polluted environment. I don't know what is the reason and aim of the people who spread the news about corona but it kills alot of individuals over the world.









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So far, things are unclear and there is no confirmation or denial from China, but I personally do not rule out the spread of a new epidemic in the world, especially since the side effects of the previous Covid vaccine are not precisely known yet.

Here in my country, people are circulating news of the spread of a strange type of influenza at the beginning of the winter season that seems to be more severe than usual, but there is no official confirmation or denial from government medical authorities.

No one wants to spread panic or go back to quarantine, as happened with the Covid virus. Humanity has suffered greatly from this epidemic, and I hope that there will not be a new epidemic.

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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
Recently I also got a glimpse of the news on local state television that there is a possibility of Covid lev2 but I am quite skeptical about the Covid agenda coming in a political year. As is the case in my country, next year is the year the head of state changes. Why is this related regardless of whether Covid is true or not after learning from 2019 that was also the year when politics used Covid as an agenda for politicians to distort facts, seek votes of support increase hospital business again etc. So it is not surprising that now people are starting to ask questions and are reluctant to believe in Covid lev2. No matter whether China is the point of spread or threat it all proves that there is always a hidden agenda in the interests of certain groups to achieve their goals.

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I can’t say anything about China or the new, as the OP writes, COVID, but in my country, there is a respiratory disease that the Ministry of Health can’t determine whether it’s the flu or a viral respiratory disease. The disease begins with a high fever and mainly affects children. Hospitals are also full. Treatment consists of antiviral drugs and vitamins—nothing new.
But to say that this could be some new and terrible virus would be incorrect; most likely, this is an old type of flu that was previously transmitted by adults, and they have immunity to it, which cannot be said about children.

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Two issues:

1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?

I don't think it's likely that world is going to be crippled again by another pandemic any time soon. First of all, the countries are ready as all the governments still have their covid pandemic plans ready to be reactivated. Secondly, the people are ready as well, everybody still has makes and sanitizers at home from the last pandemic. We all know the drills about social distancing, not shaking hands and washing our hands regularly. And thirdly, the pharma industry is ready for the next pandemic. There was a huge race to find the first vaccination and people saw how profitable it's going to be. I am sure any new pandemic would be focused on even harder in the future by the big pharma companies. The world has changed a lot since 2019 and I don't think the impact from another pandemic would have the same strong impact like covid. There isn't much to do for us to prepare, maybe stock up on food and toilet paper, save some more money and maybe buy into the big pharma companies before they announce the next vaccination round.
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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
After the rapid disappearance of covid-19 pandemic and the economic and social problems witnessed by the quarantine, I find it difficult for countries to take the same measures of lockdown and working from home, especially since I know some friends who believe in the conspiracy theory and that they did not receive vaccines and yet were not infected with the pandemic. It will be convincing these people will be more difficult.


News coming from China needs to be reviewed by independent sources because some media outlets either try to downplay its importance or there is a false exaggeration of the statement that China is a failed state.
I think no, it didn't disappeared rapidly. The fatality rate, and the huge number or affected people are a proof to it. If there is quick here, that will only be the movement of the virus from country to country or from person to person. Despite of the safey measures that are being done later on, the virus is still too strong to penetrate and continues to scare everyone. But, we are glad that it was over.

The only problem though is here, (the new virus) and this slowly builds a fear to all of us again. But we shouldn't worry because we already have a good experience before. We already fought a good fight with one of the strongest and deadliest viruses. So are we going to give up now? I guess not.

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Could it be side effects from having gotten Covid or the Covid vaccine? I had gotten the virus 3 times even though I did get the vaccine and booster and now two-three years later I have vascular problems.  I had it in my family tree but I did not suffer from it before.  I think the virus turned on the genetic switch.  Maybe that is what is going on in China.

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Could it be side effects from having gotten Covid or the Covid vaccine? I had gotten the virus 3 times even though I did get the vaccine and booster and now two-three years later I have vascular problems.  I had it in my family tree but I did not suffer from it before.  I think the virus turned on the genetic switch.  Maybe that is what is going on in China.

There are still some things about Covid that are unclear. Maybe it's a side effect of Covid, as you say. I guess we will never know the answer. Those who warned everyone to get vaccinated disappeared after the dangers of these vaccines were revealed.

I don't know if the world is ready for a new pandemic. After Covid, many people will avoid vaccines and I don't know if this is the right or wrong behavior.

Maybe the situation is, as you say, revealing a disease in your genetics. I hope people can find answers to these questions in their minds.
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Two issues:

1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
well yes , the world is still suffering from the damage brought  by COVID 19  in which so many people died, many jobs losses , many are still struggling in life and here we are again facing another worldwide problem?

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2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
what made me think is "WHY ALWAYS CHINA" what is in their country that they kept being the mother of illnesses ?
but if this is true then the world now must act earlier than what had happened in covid19 that the action is already late as the virus has already spread around the world .

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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
I don't think a new global pandemic like COVID-19 awaits us. We have seen that the combination of the arrival of winter has increased the number of respiratory illnesses among children. This is not unexpected, as respiratory diseases peak during the winter months  However, it is still important for authorities to monitor the situation closely and ensure that appropriate measures are taken to protect children from illness. This includes continuing to promote good hygiene practices, encouraging mask wearing and ensuring access to healthcare for those who need it. Additionally, it is important for parents to be vigilant and seek medical advice if their children develop any symptoms of respiratory illness. Overall, while the recent increase in respiratory illnesses among children in China is alarming, it is not necessarily a cause for alarm as long as proper measures are taken to address it.

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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?

It's pretty normal to have high levels of flu around the people during the fall and winter. There will be a flu epidemic in my country in the next few weeks. This type of flu is targeting mostly children, so the adults might be OK.
I'm not buying this "undiagnosed respiratory decease" thing. China has lots of well educated and well prepared scientists and doctors.
I don't believe that they can't diagnose the flu virus and they can't analyze it.
It's way too early to decide how this epidemic will go. I don't think that this will turn into another pandemic, so there's no need to spread fear and panic.

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We get news about the walking pneumonia among asian countries, some super disease that is apparently being concocted and spread across China, and quite lately the icebergs in Antarctica bearing marks of prehistoric Virus/Bacteria that could spread diseases long gone from our Immune system's catalog. We're going to be in a bad time right now frankly speaking. And since we're not seeing any form of response on our government's part it would seem to me as if we're just outright fucked at this point.

For the meantime, I guess let's just enjoy these moments we have while we can still go outside, and hopefully prepare for any impending disease, so we don't get another COVID-19 situation.

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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
I don't think it is another pandemic because the officials of China are saying they did not detect any unusual pathogens inside these kids, and if it would be some new pandemic then why it is following age discrimination means why it is choosing only kids, I think I agree with there only theory that when winter comes a wave of viruses like pneumonia comes and these kids have lower immune system due to the quarantine time during Covid-19,

If these children have weak immune and that's the only reason they are becoming sick then I don't think it a difficult task to help these children recover their immune to a stronger one. I hope they will get well soon and they already have seen a lot like Covid-19, Quarantine, etc. I hope these kids won't face another pandemic in their whole life. And To be honest, I think its too early for a pandemic to come, I was thinking a few days back that if Covid was artificially to do some business then those who are behind it must have done a hell lot of business so I don't think there would be any other artificial pandemic any soon, as there is no need to do business again, they would have made hell lot of money. At least I hope so, and now I am reading this news, Allah saves us.

I will say one thing - I would not take into account the statements of Chinese officials as information for a real assessment of the situation. Remember about Covid, this is quite enough to no longer trust “official information”. Or a softer formulation - Chinese official statements, I would consider as a last resort.


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Media wants news and if everything is peaceful there won't be anything much to broadcast. Understanding this media tries to create regular news out of a same topic. This is where things gets exaggerated. However this time it isn't very big and the information regarding the epidemic hadn't spread widely same as that of the COVID. Things were under control and everytime it is China to have these problems addressed initially.

It seems to me that in the modern world there are SO many reasons for information of any type that it would be wrong to talk about a lack.
The problem is slightly different - the information isolation of the problem is on China's side. The Covid pandemic began in a similar way. At first, there was little news about the outbreak of the disease, then an inactive continuation, and then... just an EXPLOSION of information when the virus broke out of China and people began to talk about it in countries where politics does not limit the media.
I will accept with great joy the news that this is really a seasonal outbreak... but in the situation with limited information in China, I somehow feel a little uneasy... This is why the opinions and information from Chinese residents are interesting


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Could it be side effects from having gotten Covid or the Covid vaccine? I had gotten the virus 3 times even though I did get the vaccine and booster and now two-three years later I have vascular problems.  I had it in my family tree but I did not suffer from it before.  I think the virus turned on the genetic switch.  Maybe that is what is going on in China.

That covid vaccine get as it works, what I don't know is the age limit or range at which it's best useful at, then it has to be on certain conditions as well that someone would have gotten to the conclusion that they needed to take a covid vaccine, but people were less concerned wether it works or not, maybe it's best for young, adults or old ones, all we do is that everyone got enrolled for the vaccination.



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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
Recently I also got a glimpse of the news on local state television that there is a possibility of Covid lev2 but I am quite skeptical about the Covid agenda coming in a political year. As is the case in my country, next year is the year the head of state changes. Why is this related regardless of whether Covid is true or not after learning from 2019 that was also the year when politics used Covid as an agenda for politicians to distort facts, seek votes of support increase hospital business again etc. So it is not surprising that now people are starting to ask questions and are reluctant to believe in Covid lev2. No matter whether China is the point of spread or threat it all proves that there is always a hidden agenda in the interests of certain groups to achieve their goals.

I would paraphrase a little - there are some individuals who use critical situations to achieve their own selfish goals. And such people do not have the right to gain access to power or significant positions. Moreover, for such people it makes no difference what happens - a pandemic, war, natural disaster. But this is a consequence of the main problem. In this case, the “strict moderation of information” in the Chinese media is a little alarming, based on previous experience.

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Could it be side effects from having gotten Covid or the Covid vaccine? I had gotten the virus 3 times even though I did get the vaccine and booster and now two-three years later I have vascular problems.  I had it in my family tree but I did not suffer from it before.  I think the virus turned on the genetic switch.  Maybe that is what is going on in China.

Nobody's sure about the covid vaccination side effects though but one thing is for sure is that inheritance of any illnesses could come out anytime especially when you are getting older.
I have never heard about someone complaining about their health declining after they took the vaccination not even the old ones talking about those who are at the age of 60s to 80s.
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Could it be side effects from having gotten Covid or the Covid vaccine? I had gotten the virus 3 times even though I did get the vaccine and booster and now two-three years later I have vascular problems.  I had it in my family tree but I did not suffer from it before.  I think the virus turned on the genetic switch.  Maybe that is what is going on in China.

Nobody's sure about the covid vaccination side effects though but one thing is for sure is that inheritance of any illnesses could come out anytime especially when you are getting older.
I have never heard about someone complaining about their health declining after they took the vaccination not even the old ones talking about those who are at the age of 60s to 80s.

Vaccinations against covid, in its essence little different from other, for many decades already familiar to the whole world vaccinations ! But someone decided to hype the topic, and supposedly "go against the system" and "world conspiracy". Now the leaders of the anti-vaccination movement have hundreds of thousands of deaths on their hands. Vaccines can give you a bad feeling the next day. But believe me 12 hours of unpleasant sensations, it is not 3 weeks in the hospital burning with a temperature of 40 degrees, panting and realizing that tomorrow you may not wake up. I myself ended up in the hospital because at that time we did not have vaccinations available yet. I've seen what a real pandemic is like. From the room where I was lying (for 6 people), 2 people went to the other side of the world, not coping with the virus, another still suffers from affected lungs....

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I will say one thing - I would not take into account the statements of Chinese officials as information for a real assessment of the situation. Remember about Covid, this is quite enough to no longer trust “official information”. Or a softer formulation - Chinese official statements, I would consider as a last resort.
You are totally right we should not trust China news even any other news. We should trust the locals most, because they are the one who will share the true stories on there social media platforms but the problem with that is, they are not allowed (means banned) to use apps that we mostly use. Because they have there own social media apps that they use.

But who can know the inside news, like what really is happening there, all I can say is to pray that nothing will come ever like Covid, because it was artificial and many people murdered died with no reason. I don't know about other countries, but people in my countries, no matter if they have covid or not at the end they died, even the regular patients who went to hospitals for bandages, declared died by doctors to his fellow friend who went with him. There are many stories like this and most of these stories might not be shown on international media but only the locals knows what really was happening here.

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December 12, 2023, 07:27:16 PM
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If an epidemic occurs every four to five years, it is not good news for the economic condition of various countries. The corona virus had a very bad shape in the world for two years due to which the economic condition of various countries collapsed and after the end of the collapsed condition, the governments of various countries started to improve the economic condition of their countries. If an epidemic comes to the world in a fairly well-done situation, then the countries that were recovering after the big disaster will collapse again and their economic conditions will deteriorate. Corona virus took the form of a global epidemic from China. If a new epidemic from China takes a terrible form worldwide, people will have no end of doubt about this country.

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December 12, 2023, 07:44:18 PM
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It’s hard to trust anything on the internet nowadays especially when it is material that has to do with sensitive topics that may cause fear and panic. If the news is true, China should do everything they can to contain the spread of the virus until a vaccine is developed. The world cannot afford another pandemic right now, we are still recovering from Covid and honestly the economy hasn’t been the same since 2020.

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I am pretty sure that we are not going to end up with something as big as covid was, that is not something you see all the time, last time humanity had something like that was about 100 years ago and there was a world war being fought so it wasn't even a day where we could all connect to world via just one phone and talk about what to do all over the world. I seriously doubt every single sickness spreading will be as big as covid, sure there are periods when people get sick, even with a simple flu there are situations where many people do get sick around the same time inside the same month, but it doesn't become a pandemic. Hence, I believe we should not be worried about it, be careful about it, and possibly be ready for it to happen again, no hurting if you try to get ready for such a thing, but doesn't mean it will be like that each time.

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December 12, 2023, 08:22:45 PM
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I am pretty sure that we are not going to end up with something as big as covid was, that is not something you see all the time, last time humanity had something like that was about 100 years ago and there was a world war being fought so it wasn't even a day where we could all connect to world via just one phone and talk about what to do all over the world. I seriously doubt every single sickness spreading will be as big as covid, sure there are periods when people get sick, even with a simple flu there are situations where many people do get sick around the same time inside the same month, but it doesn't become a pandemic. Hence, I believe we should not be worried about it, be careful about it, and possibly be ready for it to happen again, no hurting if you try to get ready for such a thing, but doesn't mean it will be like that each time.
We cant really be able to tell until it happens on which this upcoming that new covid then you cant really be able to blame out people on not to freak out considering in the past events on which it did really bring out that huge problem for most people not only on financial problems but rather it is really that being too scare about getting the sickness itself on which we know that tons of people had died out on the said pandemic.
Now that we are again in the verge on such possible scenario that might happen again just like was on 2 years ago then you cant really blame out people on not to have that kind of fear. Some might not really be
caring at all considering that they had experienced the worst and now that they came prepared for whatever things that might happen in the future.

I cant blame out to those people who are assuming that these illness or viruses are really that man created. Tons of theories and rumors that circles arounds about those
probabilities but well it is really just that some gossip or saying but who knows if its true or not. Right?

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December 12, 2023, 09:01:58 PM
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I will say one thing - I would not take into account the statements of Chinese officials as information for a real assessment of the situation. Remember about Covid, this is quite enough to no longer trust “official information”. Or a softer formulation - Chinese official statements, I would consider as a last resort.
You are totally right we should not trust China news even any other news. We should trust the locals most, because they are the one who will share the true stories on there social media platforms but the problem with that is, they are not allowed (means banned) to use apps that we mostly use. Because they have there own social media apps that they use.

But who can know the inside news, like what really is happening there, all I can say is to pray that nothing will come ever like Covid, because it was artificial and many people murdered died with no reason. I don't know about other countries, but people in my countries, no matter if they have covid or not at the end they died, even the regular patients who went to hospitals for bandages, declared died by doctors to his fellow friend who went with him. There are many stories like this and most of these stories might not be shown on international media but only the locals knows what really was happening here.

This is exactly what I'm talking about - especially valuable information would be information from local Chinese residents. However, some information isolation, or rather China's isolationist policy and total control over information will most likely limit this possibility very much. But let's hope !

By the way, another question to the respected forum members - how is the situation with Kovid-19 and vaccination in your countries now? Any information about new diseases, about supply of updated vaccine ?

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I will say one thing - I would not take into account the statements of Chinese officials as information for a real assessment of the situation. Remember about Covid, this is quite enough to no longer trust “official information”. Or a softer formulation - Chinese official statements, I would consider as a last resort.
You are totally right we should not trust China news even any other news. We should trust the locals most, because they are the one who will share the true stories on there social media platforms but the problem with that is, they are not allowed (means banned) to use apps that we mostly use. Because they have there own social media apps that they use.

But who can know the inside news, like what really is happening there, all I can say is to pray that nothing will come ever like Covid, because it was artificial and many people murdered died with no reason. I don't know about other countries, but people in my countries, no matter if they have covid or not at the end they died, even the regular patients who went to hospitals for bandages, declared died by doctors to his fellow friend who went with him. There are many stories like this and most of these stories might not be shown on international media but only the locals knows what really was happening here.

This is exactly what I'm talking about - especially valuable information would be information from local Chinese residents. However, some information isolation, or rather China's isolationist policy and total control over information will most likely limit this possibility very much. But let's hope !

By the way, another question to the respected forum members - how is the situation with Kovid-19 and vaccination in your countries now? Any information about new diseases, about supply of updated vaccine ?

Getting real information from local people is the most logical and reliable way. We all know the statements made under Covid. The banning of applications used by the people is a grave situation. Information can be accessed wherever there is internet, it just takes time.

I hope the world will never experience such a pandemic again. There is no news about vaccination in my country, but we often see news about this new situation on social media.
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Our country's economy has not yet recovered the devastating pandemic way back 2020 and now new variant is coming out again and is more fatal than the previous ones. Is this an economic sabotage? I might be wrong but for me this is some kind of biological weapon to weaken the worlds economic growth. This originated in a country that has everything ready like vaccines, masks and any medical kits needed for this specific type of illness. Aren't they creating something that could destroy others but gave them an economic advantage? Is this depopulation? Please share your thoughts on this as I am really tired on this issue.



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December 13, 2023, 08:34:50 AM
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Our country's economy has not yet recovered the devastating pandemic way back 2020 and now new variant is coming out again and is more fatal than the previous ones. Is this an economic sabotage? I might be wrong but for me this is some kind of biological weapon to weaken the worlds economic growth. This originated in a country that has everything ready like vaccines, masks and any medical kits needed for this specific type of illness. Aren't they creating something that could destroy others but gave them an economic advantage? Is this depopulation? Please share your thoughts on this as I am really tired on this issue.

About the possible version of the last pandemic as "man-made" - has a valid point, but it's not clear whether it was intentional or not.
But about the place where it all started and readiness - a controversial issue. China was the center of spreading, but there were neither vaccines nor sufficient preparation at the first stage. The fact that the industry was able to increase production of masks is simply an indicator of the adaptability of the industry and its margin of safety. The vaccine came much later.
But here the question is whether the virus itself is the work of Chinese "experts" or someone "helped" them, putting China under such a blow?

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Our country's economy has not yet recovered the devastating pandemic way back 2020 and now new variant is coming out again and is more fatal than the previous ones. Is this an economic sabotage? I might be wrong but for me this is some kind of biological weapon to weaken the worlds economic growth. This originated in a country that has everything ready like vaccines, masks and any medical kits needed for this specific type of illness. Aren't they creating something that could destroy others but gave them an economic advantage? Is this depopulation? Please share your thoughts on this as I am really tired on this issue.

About the possible version of the last pandemic as "man-made" - has a valid point, but it's not clear whether it was intentional or not.
But about the place where it all started and readiness - a controversial issue. China was the center of spreading, but there were neither vaccines nor sufficient preparation at the first stage. The fact that the industry was able to increase production of masks is simply an indicator of the adaptability of the industry and its margin of safety. The vaccine came much later.
But here the question is whether the virus itself is the work of Chinese "experts" or someone "helped" them, putting China under such a blow?

the said speculations are "viruses spreading in our country is already man-made", just like covid19 but there's no solid evidence to prove the speculations rumors around, and the pinpoint of the viruses came from china, and the whole production of things needed for safety and precautious are also from them. seems like, all of this are planned but I'm not really sure.



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December 13, 2023, 10:02:51 AM
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It’s hard to trust anything on the internet nowadays especially when it is material that has to do with sensitive topics that may cause fear and panic. If the news is true, China should do everything they can to contain the spread of the virus until a vaccine is developed. The world cannot afford another pandemic right now, we are still recovering from Covid and honestly the economy hasn’t been the same since 2020.
That's right, after the end of the pandemic, which started to decrease, we were not yet fully able to recover from the downturn because the funds used as anticipation for reducing the pandemic problem quite drained the available budget, which was not previously allocated for this, and we know that the pandemic period is quite long.I agree with you that at this time, if another pandemic occurs, it will certainly have a big impact, and it is not impossible that many will not be ready to face this reality.

It's not easy to suppress information about something that happened so that it can't be exposed on social media; it's easy to share things that aren't necessarily true. especially with sensitive news, and it is very easy for it to spread quickly. But there's no harm in remaining alert and trying to protect your surroundings first. Assuming the news is true, at least there is prevention, starting with ourselves, and we can minimize the situation so that it doesn't get worse.

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This is really a very scary news.Covid is still there in the world.  Many developing countries are still carrying the burden on their heads. Meanwhile, there is another fear.  The economy is only just beginning to recover from the economic damage caused by COVID. Poor countries will be wiped out if another pandemic breaks out now.  God forbid something happens.  May God save us all from such an epidemic.  And if this information is true, then the Chinese government must take measures to prevent it as soon as possible.  We all need to be aware that it doesn't spread around the world.


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December 13, 2023, 06:12:32 PM
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Hopefully though it isn't real. I'll never want to be locked inside of my house ever again.
Don't know what country you're in, but in my area of the US nobody was locked inside their houses.  Some businesses weren't open, which was inconvenient, and the economy suffered as a result of that, but that seems like so long ago.

I've seen this thread kicking around but didn't open it until now.  So this new virus has originated in China, eh?  That was the case with COVID and yet it seems like nobody wanted to hear that fact--probably because of what a superpower China has become.  I haven't been hearing much about it from people, so I'm hoping it gets contained before we end up with another debacle over here with masks and vaccinations and all that shit.  That's what really bugs me.

the said speculations are "viruses spreading in our country is already man-made", just like covid19 but there's no solid evidence to prove the speculations rumors around, and the pinpoint of the viruses came from china, and the whole production of things needed for safety and precautious are also from them. seems like, all of this are planned but I'm not really sure.
The news came out of China, right?  It just makes me wonder what the hell is going on in some of the microbiology labs there, and what they're doing as far as virus research.  It's not as though a lot of news leaks out of China about those things (same goes for other countries, too, I suppose).

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Some news from world sources:
"On November 21, the government's disease surveillance system, ProMED, issued a report of 'undiagnosed pneumonia.' ProMED, which is led by health experts, previously sounded the alarm about the virus that causes COVID-19 in 2019."

“With the outbreak of pneumonia in China, children's hospitals in Beijing, Liaoning and other places were overwhelmed with sick children, and schools and classes were on the verge of being suspended,” ProMED said, citing an FTV News report. “It is completely unclear when this outbreak began as it would be unusual for so many children to be affected so quickly.”

The report reveals a widespread outbreak of an undiagnosed respiratory disease in several areas of China, as Beijing and Liaoning are nearly 800 km apart. "

"According to Chinese health authorities, the outbreak may be linked to Mycoplasma pneumoniae, also known as 'walking pneumonia.'"

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Our country's economy has not yet recovered the devastating pandemic way back 2020 and now new variant is coming out again and is more fatal than the previous ones. Is this an economic sabotage? I might be wrong but for me this is some kind of biological weapon to weaken the worlds economic growth. This originated in a country that has everything ready like vaccines, masks and any medical kits needed for this specific type of illness. Aren't they creating something that could destroy others but gave them an economic advantage? Is this depopulation? Please share your thoughts on this as I am really tired on this issue.
If the coronavirus originated and was released intentionally or by negligence as a biological weapon, then it was unlikely to be produced to restrain economic growth in one or more states. Most likely, it was developed to reduce the total population on our planet. Such viruses cannot be directed to a specific country and keep it there within its borders. What it was, perhaps we will ever find out. But perhaps this will remain a big secret. It must be assumed that we will see the appearance of such viruses more than once.

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By the way, another question to the respected forum members - how is the situation with Kovid-19 and vaccination in your countries now? Any information about new diseases, about supply of updated vaccine ?
The current situation in our country regarding the new Covid issue has not yet fully emerged, but if I'm not mistaken, some time ago there was brief news on social media that there was a new type of virus which was not much different from Covid 19, you could say the level was higher. However, because at that time we didn't really pay attention and study the news, so there was minimal information. Maybe I need to check again, what is clear is that things like this always cause public unrest and seem to be on the agenda of certain groups. We know that the media is a powerful weapon for manipulating actual conditions to achieve goals. I mean, it's possible that a handful of people who control the media are trying to create a hidden agenda because they think Covid 19 has succeeded in disrupting almost 90% of the global economy and we ordinary people are also feeling the impact.

I don't want to be skeptical and make assumptions about conspiracies and the like, but the more we know about it the harder it is to understand it. We are required not to swallow everything that happens as a coincidence, but are required to think more critically, looking for sources of information down to the roots. Ensure that our actions in responding to news to change the situation must be carefully considered. I don't want to be trapped in a pandemic situation for the umpteenth time, we have just recovered and improved the economy and then we are again faced with a problem that has managed to destroy all elements of the principles that we hold dear. It's not easy to survive again in the midst of Covid. Almost all infrastructure, including health, work, transportation, sources of basic needs, etc., has become unstable.

Imagine if the Covid 19 we have experienced was an initial simulation or training to face more dire conditions. As a question, how many total deaths did Covid 19 cause overall in the world? Might those of us who survive face a higher phase of Covid levels?

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From the news feeds:
"Russia has become a leader in the number of new cases of COVID-19 infection over the past month. According to a report by the World Health Organization (WHO), 279,400 new cases were registered in the country during this period. The number of new cases in the country rose by 130% during the month, while the number of deaths rose by 50% to 376.

The total number of coronavirus cases worldwide increased by 52% to more than 850,000 in the past 28 days. Deaths have fallen 8% to 3,000.

The Coronavirus Task Force has recorded more than 96,900 new cases, more than 8,700 hospitalizations and more than 160 deaths in Russia over the past week. An increase in morbidity has been noted in 37 regions.

The second place in terms of morbidity was taken by Singapore with 120,898 cases (+86%). Among the leaders are also Italy (114,795, +10%), Poland (39,828, +82%) and Australia (39,505, +12%). The statistics are based on information from 105 countries and may not reflect the full picture of COVID-19 spread.

Medics expect a tridemic in Russia - a triple epidemic involving seasonal viruses, influenza and COVID-19."

Bottom line - the situation is not good. That I can confirm that for a month in Europe (I know for sure - in Germany, friends live there), and I in Ukraine, "seasonal" flu. It is manifested by rather high temperature (up to 38+), runny nose, cough, general weakness.  I think the variant with "multivirus infection" will be a bad "gift" to mankind. And again - trends and growth of the sick, clearly says that the pandemic is not over, the disease is not defeated. Vaccination is still the only option to reduce the risks.
What about vaccination in your countries?

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Good that you have reminded us about Covid. Several years have passed since we face its severe form and consequences. Previous year people were silent mostly about it. But this year, 2 weeks ago, I have managed to catch it. This is second time I am having it, but this time, it wasnt just a high temperature, I have also lost smell for about a week. I have 3 vaccine shots made already, and this week I was offered to make a fourth shot. So I advice to everyone, at least dont forget to wash hands more often.

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Good that you have reminded us about Covid. Several years have passed since we face its severe form and consequences. Previous year people were silent mostly about it. But this year, 2 weeks ago, I have managed to catch it. This is second time I am having it, but this time, it wasnt just a high temperature, I have also lost smell for about a week. I have 3 vaccine shots made already, and this week I was offered to make a fourth shot. So I advice to everyone, at least dont forget to wash hands more often.

Thank you Smiley

The thing is, I consider the COVIDA pandemic, in terms of destructive power, commensurate with war, and all over the world. I had it myself in the beginning, and I have the most negative memories. And I will be sincerely glad if I save at least 1 person from it. But practice shows that COVID comes back.... Now in my country there is an increase of COVID disease. Yes, this time the majority of people bear it more easily, but why risk it once again?
Personally, my recommendations are vaccination, hygiene, antiseptic after visiting public places, if possible minimize visits to places where there is a closed space and a lot of people, as well as minimize visits to hospitals.

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December 25, 2023, 04:17:48 PM
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Seems like fear-mongering to me. COVID has been swept under the rag for a year now and people have seem to move on from this issue. I guess, this will be sensationalized once the authenticity of this reports get validated. People will then move to panicking phase and might even cause a lot of panic to other people. That will start a domino effect that will soon translate to the economy, or worse, another set of lockdowns.

Hopefully though it isn't real. I'll never want to be locked inside of my house ever again.
The COVID-19 pandemic has had a serious impact on the global economy. I see that many countries are experiencing a recession and even losing jobs and this has an impact on economic health, the government's efforts may be appropriate to impose a lock down even though this really affects the people's economy, but on the other hand, with the lock down, I think it will slightly reduce the death rate.

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Good that you have reminded us about Covid. Several years have passed since we face its severe form and consequences. Previous year people were silent mostly about it. But this year, 2 weeks ago, I have managed to catch it. This is second time I am having it, but this time, it wasnt just a high temperature, I have also lost smell for about a week. I have 3 vaccine shots made already, and this week I was offered to make a fourth shot. So I advice to everyone, at least dont forget to wash hands more often.

Thank you Smiley

The thing is, I consider the COVIDA pandemic, in terms of destructive power, commensurate with war, and all over the world. I had it myself in the beginning, and I have the most negative memories. And I will be sincerely glad if I save at least 1 person from it. But practice shows that COVID comes back.... Now in my country there is an increase of COVID disease. Yes, this time the majority of people bear it more easily, but why risk it once again?
Personally, my recommendations are vaccination, hygiene, antiseptic after visiting public places, if possible minimize visits to places where there is a closed space and a lot of people, as well as minimize visits to hospitals.

My local media is strangely silent about covid, while previously it has posted daily statistics, but current covid looks very easy to catch. Or we have simply forgotten about them. We had Christmas party at work, more than 100 people in one place, and all of them got covid since Friday. Not everyone has announced and confessed, but I already see that tomorrow almost no one is coming to the office. Previously, people with covid came secretly and irresponsibly came to office with it, and managed did not infect anyone.

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Good that you have reminded us about Covid. Several years have passed since we face its severe form and consequences. Previous year people were silent mostly about it. But this year, 2 weeks ago, I have managed to catch it. This is second time I am having it, but this time, it wasnt just a high temperature, I have also lost smell for about a week. I have 3 vaccine shots made already, and this week I was offered to make a fourth shot. So I advice to everyone, at least dont forget to wash hands more often.

Thank you Smiley

The thing is, I consider the COVIDA pandemic, in terms of destructive power, commensurate with war, and all over the world. I had it myself in the beginning, and I have the most negative memories. And I will be sincerely glad if I save at least 1 person from it. But practice shows that COVID comes back.... Now in my country there is an increase of COVID disease. Yes, this time the majority of people bear it more easily, but why risk it once again?
Personally, my recommendations are vaccination, hygiene, antiseptic after visiting public places, if possible minimize visits to places where there is a closed space and a lot of people, as well as minimize visits to hospitals.

Almost everyone has a negative experience and memories with COVID-19 since it has been spread to every country. Even if we say that some people take advantage of the situation like the investors, for sure they still suffer from the experience since everyone has to adjust to the state of the country. In my country, COVID has not been heard for a long time, even if there's news about it, people wouldn't care more as they are much more focused on the recovery of what's lost in the lockdown. However, I have observed that despite not paying attention to COVID-19, they are already used to the habit of wearing facemask, using of alcohols or sanitizers, etc. which I think is a good thing.

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The thing is, I consider the COVIDA pandemic, in terms of destructive power, commensurate with war, and all over the world. I had it myself in the beginning, and I have the most negative memories. And I will be sincerely glad if I save at least 1 person from it. But practice shows that COVID comes back.... Now in my country there is an increase of COVID disease. Yes, this time the majority of people bear it more easily, but why risk it once again?
Personally, my recommendations are vaccination, hygiene, antiseptic after visiting public places, if possible minimize visits to places where there is a closed space and a lot of people, as well as minimize visits to hospitals.
Thankfully it is much better nowadays and doesn't kill as many people as it once did. I had it a month or two months ago I think, and I had super high fever, it was so terrible that at night I got hot and I wanted to take the blanket of myself and I couldn't do it. Imagine being so powerless and tired and can't move that, I had trouble moving my arms enough to remove the blanket off myself, that's a terrible terrible thing.

That is why I understand peoples opinion on how to be save from Covid, all those people who do not believe it and do not want to take any type of vaccination and all that, it's their own decision and that doesn't really mean that I will force them, but nobody could stop me from getting my own shots, after having covid once, you will pray for a shot to save you.

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December 26, 2023, 04:26:16 PM
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Thank you OP for providing this news. I've been too busy lately and rarely read foreign news. Because I just focus on work and have fun when I get home from work.

Well that is quite surprising news. But I hope there will be no new Covid again. Because the latest pandemic has really paralyzed some economies in many countries. And if it happens again then I think it will be even worse. Although the economic destruction actually got worse after the war. But regarding inflation, it is clear that it occurred as a result of post-Covid. The consequences of excess money printing and other related factors related to producers not being ready for the post-pandemic consumer boom have been declared to have disappeared.

But we still have to make preparations. And we have to learn from Covid in the past few years. At that time, many people were not prepared for the economic shock caused by the pandemic. And I think by now we should be better prepared if something like Covid happens again. Economically ready and also ready with an understanding of health protocols.

But this really has to be said, but in the last few months the spike in people getting the flu has been very high. But I am aware that the impact of climate change here is so abnormal. Well here there was a long dry season and then suddenly it rained. But that was for a while and then the drought happened again. So the impact on health can be felt. And things like that are quite common at every change in weather. But what I focus on is that the current flu is sometimes more severe than the flu that existed several years ago. But fortunately the human immune system also adapts to this. So I think stay calm and take care of your health and finances.

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Two issues:

1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
Even during Covid, there are many pros and cons, some even say that Covid is a conspiracy to seek business profits from this excessive epidemic, I also suspect whether this is the second volume of the conspiracy?
Those who believe too much will become victims but those who don't believe will be fine, like during Covid several years ago. If we talk about the economy, of course the impact is very big, like Covid which has not yet fully recovered, but now there is new news like this again, so I am increasingly confident to continue buying Bitcoin for stronger financial future. Because during Covid several years ago the economy was bad but the value of bitcoin did not fall, instead the price of bitcoin rose.

In my opinion, the point is not to exaggerate the news. Over time, the virus will disappear and people don't need to be too afraid because excessive fear will cause the body's immune system to decrease so that the body is susceptible to disease. Try to ignore this disease. After a while, the news will disappear.

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December 26, 2023, 09:08:27 PM
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Two issues:

1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
Even during Covid, there are many pros and cons, some even say that Covid is a conspiracy to seek business profits from this excessive epidemic, I also suspect whether this is the second volume of the conspiracy?
Those who believe too much will become victims but those who don't believe will be fine, like during Covid several years ago. If we talk about the economy, of course the impact is very big, like Covid which has not yet fully recovered, but now there is new news like this again, so I am increasingly confident to continue buying Bitcoin for stronger financial future. Because during Covid several years ago the economy was bad but the value of bitcoin did not fall, instead the price of bitcoin rose.

In my opinion, the point is not to exaggerate the news. Over time, the virus will disappear and people don't need to be too afraid because excessive fear will cause the body's immune system to decrease so that the body is susceptible to disease. Try to ignore this disease. After a while, the news will disappear.
There's lots on conspiracy that had came out in speaking about Covid about this and about that but no matter how many things that we are tending to say but still there's no way that we could prove it out, unless if there would be some solid evidences would come out but we know that if ever this one is true then we do really believe that those elites would really be letting those things to leak? i highly doubt that or surely its really that impossible. We've been able to survive that pandemic for 2 years and if ever there's another one would upcoming then it would surely be giving out that huge impact when it comes to economical aspect.
Lets hope that there would be none again because even just saying on personal viewpoints, it would really be that so tough

I dont care about economical approach into my country, what i do worry the most is into my personal condition on how we would be able to survive if ever things are bound to happen again.
We've seen that tons of people and businesses had struggled and closed down into those times. If that one would happen or becomes even more worst then
i cant imagine the devastation.

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December 26, 2023, 09:42:25 PM
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In Africa every 4 years, there is a new disease in continent. Either from the international arena or from the continental level. It was after Ebola that COVID 19 came and after the COVID 19 we are waiting for the new disease out break. But this one you are saying, is there no name yet? But I believed at the end Africa will be the highest target of the disease or virus. Now because they made enough money from COVID 19 because the virus was attacking the respiratory system and they are bringing another one again to attack the respiratory system of children.

They have been saying that the population of china is too much so probably they want to use this virus to reduce the number. But I know that it will come to Africa must Nigeria.









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They are not telling the truth behind this, too hard to believe this story. In fact, they make a lot of fake stories just to divert people's blame, yet all of these things are their plan. And this WHO had never obliged them to tell the truth but just unbelievable stories.

We heard a lot of rumors about another disease, another pandemic strike...sometimes we think that this is all about business. Someone created a virus and made money from it. It is proven during the COVID-19 time and still China is on the top of it.

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Whenever I remember pandemic, I become very much afraid because what happened the las time, during the last pandemic it seem to me like the world is going to extinction, predicting another pandemic looks like a bad news to me, the world economy suffered the last time pandemic surfaced, so if such should repeat itself, there will be more problems considering how price of things is in some countries, am Nigerian, we faced hell during the covid, the price of good went up because people struggle get those goods to sell to people, that's not an event to remember, the economy of many countries crumbled because there was less production, importation and exportation of some commodities dropped drastically, I pray we don't experience this again.

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Good that you have reminded us about Covid. Several years have passed since we face its severe form and consequences. Previous year people were silent mostly about it. But this year, 2 weeks ago, I have managed to catch it. This is second time I am having it, but this time, it wasnt just a high temperature, I have also lost smell for about a week. I have 3 vaccine shots made already, and this week I was offered to make a fourth shot. So I advice to everyone, at least dont forget to wash hands more often.

Thank you Smiley

The thing is, I consider the COVIDA pandemic, in terms of destructive power, commensurate with war, and all over the world. I had it myself in the beginning, and I have the most negative memories. And I will be sincerely glad if I save at least 1 person from it. But practice shows that COVID comes back.... Now in my country there is an increase of COVID disease. Yes, this time the majority of people bear it more easily, but why risk it once again?
Personally, my recommendations are vaccination, hygiene, antiseptic after visiting public places, if possible minimize visits to places where there is a closed space and a lot of people, as well as minimize visits to hospitals.

My local media is strangely silent about covid, while previously it has posted daily statistics, but current covid looks very easy to catch. Or we have simply forgotten about them. We had Christmas party at work, more than 100 people in one place, and all of them got covid since Friday. Not everyone has announced and confessed, but I already see that tomorrow almost no one is coming to the office. Previously, people with covid came secretly and irresponsibly came to office with it, and managed did not infect anyone.

It is hoped that the population, en masse, has developed the minimum necessary immunity. That's very good news! But it does not mean that we can stop monitoring the situation and stop vaccinating, if only because the virus has the ability to mutate....
But there is also a nuance - it is that not all countries have quality vaccines, not all countries have not carried out quality immunization. The example above with Russia, says that, for example, in this country either the level of vaccination is low (if the vaccine works), or the quality of vaccines used for mass vaccination is not of sufficient quality.

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Even during Covid, there are many pros and cons, some even say that Covid is a conspiracy to seek business profits from this excessive epidemic, I also suspect whether this is the second volume of the conspiracy?
Those who believe too much will become victims but those who don't believe will be fine, like during Covid several years ago. If we talk about the economy, of course the impact is very big, like Covid which has not yet fully recovered, but now there is new news like this again, so I am increasingly confident to continue buying Bitcoin for stronger financial future. Because during Covid several years ago the economy was bad but the value of bitcoin did not fall, instead the price of bitcoin rose.

In my opinion, the point is not to exaggerate the news. Over time, the virus will disappear and people don't need to be too afraid because excessive fear will cause the body's immune system to decrease so that the body is susceptible to disease. Try to ignore this disease. After a while, the news will disappear.

What pros covid has ? I can name only cons. Cant say anything positive about it. The only pros people mention is spending more free time with family while working remotely. But frankly speaking, I would better be more healthy than working from home. Of course spending time with family is nice, but KPI (key performance indicators) are much lower when working from home.

Also you say that virus will disappear and suggest to ignore it. That totally does not work imo. As soon as we stopped following hygiene recommendations, we start to get sick. Just my notice - when we washed hands frequently, wear masks, use antiseptics, avoided crowding, people got sick less, really less. And I am not talking about covid only. Less running noses, cough, flu, sneezing. Less of everything that we get in autumn and winter period.

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December 28, 2023, 03:38:49 AM
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Even during Covid, there are many pros and cons, some even say that Covid is a conspiracy to seek business profits from this excessive epidemic, I also suspect whether this is the second volume of the conspiracy?
Those who believe too much will become victims but those who don't believe will be fine, like during Covid several years ago. If we talk about the economy, of course the impact is very big, like Covid which has not yet fully recovered, but now there is new news like this again, so I am increasingly confident to continue buying Bitcoin for stronger financial future. Because during Covid several years ago the economy was bad but the value of bitcoin did not fall, instead the price of bitcoin rose.

In my opinion, the point is not to exaggerate the news. Over time, the virus will disappear and people don't need to be too afraid because excessive fear will cause the body's immune system to decrease so that the body is susceptible to disease. Try to ignore this disease. After a while, the news will disappear.

What pros covid has ? I can name only cons. Cant say anything positive about it. The only pros people mention is spending more free time with family while working remotely. But frankly speaking, I would better be more healthy than working from home. Of course spending time with family is nice, but KPI (key performance indicators) are much lower when working from home.


Actually, there was nothing positive about it. Yes, we got tons of time with our family everyday, but with full of anxiety, fear, and the feeling of being miserable because we are trapped at the four corners of our home. Those who continued to have work at home was fortunate for still being able to earn while locked down. KPIs didn't really matter during that time because everyone had a hard time adjusting to the new work setup and the situation.

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Seems every year comes with its peculiar challenges and as the year goes on, new sicknesses and wars keep coming regularly.

So many persons haven't recovered fully from the effect of COVID-19 both in their businesses and the trauma some families have to go through because a live one went down because of being infected with the virus.

I just want to assume that this is just another exaggeration coming from the media and that it's just a minor issue that would be address easily and won't end up becoming a major global problem.

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This could just be an outbreak of a new flu virus and not a new strain of Covid, so let's just all calm down and see what the WHO has to say about this. We know that not all respiratory illnesses or severe acute respiratory infections are linked to Covid.

Covid infected everyone.... not just younger children, so let's be optimistic about this one, because we cannot afford to have another pandemic, with the global economy being in trouble already. 🤔😪

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What pros covid has ?
Positive side: Wealth level shifting, that's it.
Covid is a global economic reset, at this point people return to almost zero condition and have to look for alternative jobs, tactics or new businesses that really have to be successful in the midst of situations they're not used to facing before. This equality of conditions means that anyone has the opportunity to achieve a wealth level.

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December 28, 2023, 07:42:04 AM
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We have heard about epidemics from our fathers and grandfathers in the past. When an epidemic occurs, the world economy suffers a lot.  Remembering last time covid 19 scares me. I have only heard that the entire world changes in terms of population and economy in the event of an epidemic, but now I understand it, that's why hearing about an epidemic makes my mind unsettled. During covid 19 I have seen the prices of goods go up because people struggle to sell those things to people, this is not a case to remember, the economy of many countries collapsed because there was less production of some goods. May Allah save us all from such an epidemic

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December 28, 2023, 08:43:16 AM
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They are not telling the truth behind this, too hard to believe this story. In fact, they make a lot of fake stories just to divert people's blame, yet all of these things are their plan. And this WHO had never obliged them to tell the truth but just unbelievable stories.

We heard a lot of rumors about another disease, another pandemic strike...sometimes we think that this is all about business. Someone created a virus and made money from it. It is proven during the COVID-19 time and still China is on the top of it.
After the end of the corona virus, we heard rumors that a virus several times stronger than the coronavirus is about to come to the world. As many people have died due to corona virus, many times more people will die due to this new virus and the prevalence of spreading this virus will be much higher. Such rumors have created a lot of panic in people's minds as people have already lost many family members due to the coronavirus. I don't know if there will be a new epidemic after the corona virus, but we may see a big financial crisis in the future. Due to corona virus, many financial crises have already occurred around the world, then again it is heard that there will be a new global economic crisis, which is not good news for us at all.

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December 28, 2023, 09:52:57 AM
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What pros covid has ?
Positive side: Wealth level shifting, that's it.
Covid is a global economic reset, at this point people return to almost zero condition and have to look for alternative jobs, tactics or new businesses that really have to be successful in the midst of situations they're not used to facing before. This equality of conditions means that anyone has the opportunity to achieve a wealth level.

Wealth level shifting can be considered as a negative impact. People have lost jobs. I personally spent on average more during covid than before it. I can say that I have only saved on petrol that I used to spend on riding to work. But spending time at home was mostly boring, so I had to buy stuff to entertain myself and family. Also many still havent recovered from that reset. Small business was barely healthy before covid, during it it has died completely.

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Wealth level shifting can be considered as a negative impact. People have lost jobs. I personally spent on average more during covid than before it. I can say that I have only saved on petrol that I used to spend on riding to work. But spending time at home was mostly boring, so I had to buy stuff to entertain myself and family. Also many still havent recovered from that reset. Small business was barely healthy before covid, during it it has died completely.
And that is because most of the wealth went once again to those that are incredibly rich while the rest of the population is suffering greatly, as during the pandemic even jobs with a bad pay were scarce and people were forced to improvise just to stay afloat, so if yet another pandemic was to hit the world then it will be very difficult for those people to deal with it, and it is not as if governments are doing great either as they had to print a lot of money and the taxes they received went down as well.
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December 29, 2023, 01:37:03 PM
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After the end of the corona virus, we heard rumors that a virus several times stronger than the coronavirus is about to come to the world. As many people have died due to corona virus, many times more people will die due to this new virus and the prevalence of spreading this virus will be much higher. Such rumors have created a lot of panic in people's minds as people have already lost many family members due to the coronavirus. I don't know if there will be a new epidemic after the corona virus, but we may see a big financial crisis in the future. Due to corona virus, many financial crises have already occurred around the world, then again it is heard that there will be a new global economic crisis, which is not good news for us at all.
According to the information I have read, the Corona virus is starting to return again with a different variant, but it is not as scary as the first Corona virus. However,  the spread is still quite fast, and in my country, it has claimed another victim, but not many, and can be contained quickly.I think you are right that the past fear of the Corona virus incident, which caused many victims, has created fear with the news of the existence of other viruses that are also dangerous, and it is natural that there will be panic that will be caused because of past experiences with the Corona virus.During the 2 years that the Corona virus has struck, it has clearly disrupted the world economy because the funds provided for handling it are quite high and there are no special preparations for dealing with it, so it is natural to fear that if there is a new outbreak, if it hits, it will create a new economic crisis again. but we hope that there will not be another pandemic like the Corona virus and that WHO will be able to deal with it well before a more fatal incident occurs.

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December 29, 2023, 02:03:35 PM
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Even during Covid, there are many pros and cons, some even say that Covid is a conspiracy to seek business profits from this excessive epidemic, I also suspect whether this is the second volume of the conspiracy?
Those who believe too much will become victims but those who don't believe will be fine, like during Covid several years ago. If we talk about the economy, of course the impact is very big, like Covid which has not yet fully recovered, but now there is new news like this again, so I am increasingly confident to continue buying Bitcoin for stronger financial future. Because during Covid several years ago the economy was bad but the value of bitcoin did not fall, instead the price of bitcoin rose.

In my opinion, the point is not to exaggerate the news. Over time, the virus will disappear and people don't need to be too afraid because excessive fear will cause the body's immune system to decrease so that the body is susceptible to disease. Try to ignore this disease. After a while, the news will disappear.

What pros covid has ? I can name only cons. Cant say anything positive about it. The only pros people mention is spending more free time with family while working remotely. But frankly speaking, I would better be more healthy than working from home. Of course spending time with family is nice, but KPI (key performance indicators) are much lower when working from home.


Actually, there was nothing positive about it. Yes, we got tons of time with our family everyday, but with full of anxiety, fear, and the feeling of being miserable because we are trapped at the four corners of our home. Those who continued to have work at home was fortunate for still being able to earn while locked down. KPIs didn't really matter during that time because everyone had a hard time adjusting to the new work setup and the situation.
For those people who do have work online then they are really that having that kind of advantage compared to those workers who do go into those offices for them to work on which once everything would be closed or having that pandemic situation then they wont really be able to get a salary on which it would really be a huge challenge because survival into these times are really that very hard and if you wont really be finding any options or ways then you wont really be able to survive. We've known and see on how it greatly affected those places or countries in terms of economical aspects on which it did really make things goes down
and being that the worst. How much more into those individuals who do already struggle on day living? When things happened then it do make even more harder to survive.

If ever there would really be another wave for similar like Covid then i dont know if people would really be able to survive again. We've been slowly recovering from that situation and if ever it would be happening or having those odds on making that huge damage again then its better to get prepared. You would really be able to realize on whats the importance on having a savings and multiple income source on which
if ever your work is really that at risks, you could really be still be able to survive or sustain no matter what the condition it would be.
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December 30, 2023, 01:23:13 PM
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Who knows what else will be planned with this new outbreak. Everything seems very boring because the motifs used are almost the same. But I hope this outbreak doesn't last long. Because this will indeed damage the economic system which is just about to recover.

Because Covid 19 has been attacking the world for almost 3 years. Apart from that, the impact felt is very large. So I think if this outbreak spreads, it seems like the world economy really doesn't know what it's going to look like.
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January 15, 2024, 01:11:14 AM
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What a destructive and hypertensive experience  I had from food shortages,to school closure,to millions of lost lives and jobs.All these caused severe hardship and even increased our level of struggling,disrupted lives and businesses and to crown it all,life became too toxic and unbearable for me.
 
The COVID-19 crisis affected worldwide economic activity, resulting us in living with too many restrictions.Honestly,I don't wish for another global crisis to befall us again like I can't the shock that comes with been stucked in one place.

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January 15, 2024, 02:54:09 AM
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Who knows what else will be planned with this new outbreak. Everything seems very boring because the motifs used are almost the same. But I hope this outbreak doesn't last long. Because this will indeed damage the economic system which is just about to recover.

Because Covid 19 has been attacking the world for almost 3 years. Apart from that, the impact felt is very large. So I think if this outbreak spreads, it seems like the world economy really doesn't know what it's going to look like.
That's a hopeful thing for you to say but look at what happened with COVID, it got so bad because the people that's in-charge of the immigration and the containment of the contagious disease is not doing the right thing and they're instead hiding the data and the truth to the world and this will be the thing that's going to happen with this one too, hopefully this isn't as bad as COVID but this disease is definitely going to go overseas because of the incompetence. We would never know what the economy would look like but I have an idea and I can help paint you a picture of what it looks like, just double the negative effects that COVID had with the economy and you can pretty much see what's going to happen if this becomes another global pandemic.



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What a destructive and hypertensive experience  I had from food shortages,to school closure,to millions of lost lives and jobs.All these caused severe hardship and even increased our level of struggling,disrupted lives and businesses and to crown it all,life became too toxic and unbearable for me.
 
The COVID-19 crisis affected worldwide economic activity, resulting us in living with too many restrictions.Honestly,I don't wish for another global crisis to befall us again like I can't the shock that comes with been stucked in one place.
Yes, of course this is very stressful in dealing with situations such as Covid Many difficulties arising from the impact of Covid Work for some people and the difficulty of getting a job that can give us income that can meet the needs and closure of the school, of course this makes us stress with boundaries which is applied in a life that is accustomed to having freedom.

It is true that everyone of us certainly does not want this because we with every restriction that is enforced certainly we cannot produce anything that can meet the needs we need so that we have to use the savings we have to be able to meet the needs during the COVID.
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January 16, 2024, 06:05:29 AM
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What a destructive and hypertensive experience  I had from food shortages,to school closure,to millions of lost lives and jobs.All these caused severe hardship and even increased our level of struggling,disrupted lives and businesses and to crown it all,life became too toxic and unbearable for me.
 
The COVID-19 crisis affected worldwide economic activity, resulting us in living with too many restrictions.Honestly,I don't wish for another global crisis to befall us again like I can't the shock that comes with been stucked in one place.
Yes, of course this is very stressful in dealing with situations such as Covid Many difficulties arising from the impact of Covid Work for some people and the difficulty of getting a job that can give us income that can meet the needs and closure of the school, of course this makes us stress with boundaries which is applied in a life that is accustomed to having freedom.

It is true that everyone of us certainly does not want this because we with every restriction that is enforced certainly we cannot produce anything that can meet the needs we need so that we have to use the savings we have to be able to meet the needs during the COVID.
No one predicted that the impact of COVID would be so great as to hit the world and result in all aspects of life being disrupted and unable to operate optimally, even to the point of having to stop altogether. resulting in all aspects of the economy not being able to function properly and causing losses in all sectors of life.Restrictions must be implemented so that contagion does not continue to occur. In the end, these restrictions make all sectors unable to run well and disrupt the economy because there is no ability to try or run anything optimally in almost all sectors, which actually happens because it avoids crowding of people.Not only do people have to spend additional funds, but the government also has to buy vaccines to be used to prevent prolonged transmission.It's time to start moving to grow the economy by reducing transmission, but we must always be vigilant because there are still many variants occurring, and if we don't anticipate, there will be further waves.

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This news worries me very much
“MORTALITY – 100%: THE CHINESE TESTED A NEW STRAIN OF CORONAVIRUS ON “HUMANIZED” MICE
Mortality rate – 100%: the Chinese tested a new strain of coronavirus on “humanized” mice
The virus affected the bones, lungs, tracheas, eyes and brains of the test subjects, and before death the eyes turned completely white.
Chinese scientists are experimenting with a mutated strain of COVID-19 that is 100% lethal to “humanized” mice.
This was reported by nypost.com with reference to a study published last week in Beijing."

I have an assumption that China now wants to create a virus, as well as vaccines and a treatment drug, in order to “bring the whole world to its knees,” threatening total extinction for those who do not accept China’s conditions and do not submit in exchange for a vaccine. But I’m afraid that, as in the story with COVID, this “successor of COVID” may leave Chinese laboratories, without the knowledge of the developers....

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This news worries me very much
“MORTALITY – 100%: THE CHINESE TESTED A NEW STRAIN OF CORONAVIRUS ON “HUMANIZED” MICE
Mortality rate – 100%: the Chinese tested a new strain of coronavirus on “humanized” mice
The virus affected the bones, lungs, tracheas, eyes and brains of the test subjects, and before death the eyes turned completely white.
Chinese scientists are experimenting with a mutated strain of COVID-19 that is 100% lethal to “humanized” mice.
This was reported by nypost.com with reference to a study published last week in Beijing."

I have an assumption that China now wants to create a virus, as well as vaccines and a treatment drug, in order to “bring the whole world to its knees,” threatening total extinction for those who do not accept China’s conditions and do not submit in exchange for a vaccine. But I’m afraid that, as in the story with COVID, this “successor of COVID” may leave Chinese laboratories, without the knowledge of the developers....

When I read this news, I was also very worried. Especially when it comes to how big of an impact it can have.

If the world encounters such an epidemic again, as in the Covid story, it may cause bigger problems, especially in countries with bad economies. At the same time, when I think about what has been said about vaccines, I am not sure if the world is ready for such chaos again.

News comes out periodically that a new epidemic may occur, and people are starting to get scared. I hope a new epidemic does not emerge.

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What a destructive and hypertensive experience  I had from food shortages,to school closure,to millions of lost lives and jobs.All these caused severe hardship and even increased our level of struggling,disrupted lives and businesses and to crown it all,life became too toxic and unbearable for me.
 
The COVID-19 crisis affected worldwide economic activity, resulting us in living with too many restrictions.Honestly,I don't wish for another global crisis to befall us again like I can't the shock that comes with been stucked in one place.
Yes, of course this is very stressful in dealing with situations such as Covid Many difficulties arising from the impact of Covid Work for some people and the difficulty of getting a job that can give us income that can meet the needs and closure of the school, of course this makes us stress with boundaries which is applied in a life that is accustomed to having freedom.

It is true that everyone of us certainly does not want this because we with every restriction that is enforced certainly we cannot produce anything that can meet the needs we need so that we have to use the savings we have to be able to meet the needs during the COVID.
No one predicted that the impact of COVID would be so great as to hit the world and result in all aspects of life being disrupted and unable to operate optimally, even to the point of having to stop altogether. resulting in all aspects of the economy not being able to function properly and causing losses in all sectors of life.Restrictions must be implemented so that contagion does not continue to occur. In the end, these restrictions make all sectors unable to run well and disrupt the economy because there is no ability to try or run anything optimally in almost all sectors, which actually happens because it avoids crowding of people.Not only do people have to spend additional funds, but the government also has to buy vaccines to be used to prevent prolonged transmission.It's time to start moving to grow the economy by reducing transmission, but we must always be vigilant because there are still many variants occurring, and if we don't anticipate, there will be further waves.
How terrible it is if you remember the past when the Covid outbreak hit, almost all sectors of the economy were hampered, many business sectors were even unable to continue their business so they had to face a lot of life's difficulties. On the other hand, what we can be sure of is that God always provides a way out, where we know that with the Covid pandemic there has been a proliferation of online transactions without having to meet face to face, and this is happening and developing to this day, we are even used to it.

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January 20, 2024, 01:08:52 PM
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The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
Although I don't have accurate information about this new epidemic, I think the media is exaggerating this issue. Maybe we're past the fear of what's happened, and now a certain sign can make everyone confused, but honestly I feel like what we just went through gives us hope and enough experience to cope with challenges. But anyway, I am waiting for clear information on this issue, but I think maybe things are calming down now. Since the news started to spread until now, it seems like everything is under control, and there is not much relevant information about the severity.

As we can see today that the virus shouldn't be a cause for alarm, because we haven't heard of anything close to the covid 19 pandemic, hopefully we will not experience such magnitude of threat to human existence again. It was probably a media hype for people to subscribe to their channels, they'll make something out of nothing serious, probably a normal flu that was affecting children and they'd make it a big deal because covid came out of china. I believe that the covid experience was an eye opener for the whole world that a disease can kill and cripple the economies of the whole world, so governments must be in the ready for future occurances.

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January 20, 2024, 01:47:29 PM
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This news worries me very much
“MORTALITY – 100%: THE CHINESE TESTED A NEW STRAIN OF CORONAVIRUS ON “HUMANIZED” MICE
Mortality rate – 100%: the Chinese tested a new strain of coronavirus on “humanized” mice
The virus affected the bones, lungs, tracheas, eyes and brains of the test subjects, and before death the eyes turned completely white.
Chinese scientists are experimenting with a mutated strain of COVID-19 that is 100% lethal to “humanized” mice.
This was reported by nypost.com with reference to a study published last week in Beijing."

I have an assumption that China now wants to create a virus, as well as vaccines and a treatment drug, in order to “bring the whole world to its knees,” threatening total extinction for those who do not accept China’s conditions and do not submit in exchange for a vaccine. But I’m afraid that, as in the story with COVID, this “successor of COVID” may leave Chinese laboratories, without the knowledge of the developers....
Are there any links about it? I want to grasp it carefully. Human history had to change when Covid 19 attacked, it had a huge impact on the human world. I was very worried when I read the news about it. I do not expect that we will continue to face the next generation “covid” enemy in any form. That's scary. The assumption that China can continue to conduct other Covid research is not impossible. Hopefully everything will be handled safely and without additional risks. I also think that countries around the world have had great lessons and experiences after overcoming the covid 19 pandemic and have used that as a method to minimize similar dangers in the future. .

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January 22, 2024, 07:30:45 PM
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The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
Although I don't have accurate information about this new epidemic, I think the media is exaggerating this issue. Maybe we're past the fear of what's happened, and now a certain sign can make everyone confused, but honestly I feel like what we just went through gives us hope and enough experience to cope with challenges. But anyway, I am waiting for clear information on this issue, but I think maybe things are calming down now. Since the news started to spread until now, it seems like everything is under control, and there is not much relevant information about the severity.

As we can see today that the virus shouldn't be a cause for alarm, because we haven't heard of anything close to the covid 19 pandemic, hopefully we will not experience such magnitude of threat to human existence again. It was probably a media hype for people to subscribe to their channels, they'll make something out of nothing serious, probably a normal flu that was affecting children and they'd make it a big deal because covid came out of china. I believe that the covid experience was an eye opener for the whole world that a disease can kill and cripple the economies of the whole world, so governments must be in the ready for future occurances.

The problem of today's situation is that some members of the world community have actually decided that it is possible to commit crimes with impunity, and that any methods can be used to achieve their goals.

I am not ready to give a 100% guarantee whether this scenario, which I described above, will come to pass. But such a scenario can be used to directly intimidate the entire world. And such a scenario in today's overheated situation in the world is absolutely not excluded. And the scariest thing here is not that, but that there could simply be an uncontrolled leakage of such a pathogen, which would lead to an unpredictable pandemic. I have already heard many times, let it be from the field of "conspiracy theory", that Covid19 was a "test", a test run, to study the scale and speed of spread, to study the reaction and capabilities of the world economy, pharmaceuticals.....
I really want to be wrong in my assumptions !

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January 22, 2024, 07:51:19 PM
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Covid's shadow has loomed large for years, and its second infection serves as a stark reminder that the virus is still very much present, even if the headlines might have shifted. While the news cycle moved on, the virus hasn't, and your experience with the second infection, including the loss of smell, highlights the unpredictable and lingering effects it can have.

It's true, a sense of fatigue and normalization might have settled in over the past year. We adapted, masked, vaccinated, and learned to live with the virus as a part of our present reality.

While the severity of the pandemic might have waned, the virus remains a part of our lives, evolving and adapting like any other. Your story reminds us that vigilance, even in the face of normalcy, is crucial. Washing your hands, maintaining some social distancing when possible, and staying informed about local caseloads and variant updates can all play a role in curbing the spread and protecting ourselves and those around us.

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January 22, 2024, 09:40:16 PM
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I have an assumption that China now wants to create a virus, as well as vaccines and a treatment drug, in order to “bring the whole world to its knees,” threatening total extinction for those who do not accept China’s conditions and do not submit in exchange for a vaccine. But I’m afraid that, as in the story with COVID, this “successor of COVID” may leave Chinese laboratories, without the knowledge of the developers....

See, this is the problem with humans being able to discover a lot of things scientifically, they will play Gods who wants to rule the world even if it means to threaten the extinction of humanity. This is actually more than just a conspiracy theory. China has known to be possessive with the thing they have and the things they want to have.  The infamous debt trap is a living testament for that.
I always thought the Covid19 was a biological weapon created to destroy the world economy, which I think it went too far.
Again, this isn't impossible to happen and it could be worse than the Covid19.

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I have an assumption that China now wants to create a virus, as well as vaccines and a treatment drug, in order to “bring the whole world to its knees,” threatening total extinction for those who do not accept China’s conditions and do not submit in exchange for a vaccine. But I’m afraid that, as in the story with COVID, this “successor of COVID” may leave Chinese laboratories, without the knowledge of the developers....

See, this is the problem with humans being able to discover a lot of things scientifically, they will play Gods who wants to rule the world even if it means to threaten the extinction of humanity. This is actually more than just a conspiracy theory. China has known to be possessive with the thing they have and the things they want to have.  The infamous debt trap is a living testament for that.
I always thought the Covid19 was a biological weapon created to destroy the world economy, which I think it went too far.
Again, this isn't impossible to happen and it could be worse than the Covid19.

That mankind wants to comprehend "higher matter" and "play gods" is an old story. But - the deliberate creation of deadly, artificial viruses that pose a real danger to all mankind - is no longer "playing gods", it is a purposeful obtaining of a "trump card", which can be used to force the whole world to perform certain actions using the threat of total destruction of people in vast areas. I did not just assume that in addition to the development of a deadly virus, there will be "complete" vaccine that guarantees the survival of those who receive it.

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Recently, I started to think that we are more exposed to news of epidemics in order to cover up some economic manipulations. The human brain has evolved to analyze events with cause and effect relationships. I was vaccinated against Covid because I trusted science, but now I am skeptical of pandemic news and try to focus on the actions of the people at the top of capital in such events. The good thing is that the unfortunate pandemic we have experienced before has exposed us to any real pandemic. We all know what to do if we are really in danger.

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I have an assumption that China now wants to create a virus, as well as vaccines and a treatment drug, in order to “bring the whole world to its knees,” threatening total extinction for those who do not accept China’s conditions and do not submit in exchange for a vaccine. But I’m afraid that, as in the story with COVID, this “successor of COVID” may leave Chinese laboratories, without the knowledge of the developers....

See, this is the problem with humans being able to discover a lot of things scientifically, they will play Gods who wants to rule the world even if it means to threaten the extinction of humanity. This is actually more than just a conspiracy theory. China has known to be possessive with the thing they have and the things they want to have.  The infamous debt trap is a living testament for that.
I always thought the Covid19 was a biological weapon created to destroy the world economy, which I think it went too far.
Again, this isn't impossible to happen and it could be worse than the Covid19.
It seems that Covid-19 did not appear by chance. Someone is solving the issue of overpopulation of the planet with people in this way. And this means that new types of it or even new similar deadly diseases will appear and are already appearing. Such silent biological weapons can easily solve various economic issues. The scientific and technical capabilities for this have now greatly increased. It is clear that in parallel with the creation of the virus, a vaccine against it is also being created. And it appears that China and some other countries are indeed involved in this. After all, the culprits of the spread of Covid-19 have not yet been named, although China was the main suspect.

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It seems that Covid-19 did not appear by chance. Someone is solving the issue of overpopulation of the planet with people in this way. And this means that new types of it or even new similar deadly diseases will appear and are already appearing. Such silent biological weapons can easily solve various economic issues. The scientific and technical capabilities for this have now greatly increased. It is clear that in parallel with the creation of the virus, a vaccine against it is also being created. And it appears that China and some other countries are indeed involved in this. After all, the culprits of the spread of Covid-19 have not yet been named, although China was the main suspect.
I think you are right; it is impossible for the virus to suddenly appear without there being a reason that caused the appearance to occur. It is certain that there is something that is not yet known or is still being covered up.It is not impossible that something like this will reappear in the future if the main cause of its occurrence is not resolved.What might be feared is the re-emergence of new diseases due to developments that occur due to the lack of resolution of COVID.
 
Always, if there is a virus outbreak, an anti-virus will be created in the form of a vaccine, but if it cannot be handled like COVID, then it is not impossible that there will be a spread first and then confusion by looking for a vaccine again, and this will continue to happen without you having a solution.
 
It is indeed confusing and a puzzle why, until now, the main point of the spread or occurrence of COVID has not been announced, and the only information that can be obtained is that it started in bamboo curtain countries. Then it spread quickly because the population of the country is quite large, so it is not impossible for it to spread quickly.

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As we can see today that the virus shouldn't be a cause for alarm, because we haven't heard of anything close to the covid 19 pandemic, hopefully we will not experience such magnitude of threat to human existence again. It was probably a media hype for people to subscribe to their channels, they'll make something out of nothing serious, probably a normal flu that was affecting children and they'd make it a big deal because covid came out of china. I believe that the covid experience was an eye opener for the whole world that a disease can kill and cripple the economies of the whole world, so governments must be in the ready for future occurances.
Even though at this time we still haven't heard clearly about the existence of Covid again, but seeing from some news, especially for local news in my country, it seems that there is indeed a situation where the pandemic could start again if it is not prevented early because it is said that there is currently a new variant of Coivis that could threaten again.

This must be taken with calmness but on the other hand we also cannot relax in this case because after all Covid 19 has taken away our freedom in a few years which is quite upsetting so in this case we should not feel the same thing again because it could be that if something like that happens then the impact will be more severe than before.

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