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June 13, 2024, 09:54:23 PM
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You live in the old world, there are no more Messi, Ronaldo or Neymar. We have sufficient regeneration, and for Brazil we have Vinicius who has proven his achievements at club level.

That's one point I will also love to endorse as there was a time where Messi, Ronaldo or Neymar were all unknown in the history of football and there will be a time they will be forgotten as well. This is why time is everything about life as it shapes the activities of the world over time. There are new generation of footballers now that are also doing some wonder jobs at the club side. They have the energy, the morale, the skills and the passion to work hard for the team especially if they have the opportunity to serve their nations. I have the thought that many managers will be looking at out to work with them without the star players mentioned above rather than working with those old guys who are hanging their boots anytime soon.

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June 13, 2024, 10:02:04 PM
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I am very curious to see how Brazil will play because they were doing very badly. I hope they recover and can have a good Copa America. I just remember that team where Kaka, Ronaldo and Dinho were. With those players it was enough to scare the other teams because when they went out on the field they were titans, the way they moved and played. With them alone it was enough to win a World Cup. At that time I admire how France was able to snatch the World Cup from Brazil with Zidane and Deschamps, who played very well, and obviously with the help of titi Henry. I want to see Brasil at the same level as those titans.

Even though Brazil lost to France in the 1998 final, I have great memories of that World Cup.
They were a team that most Brazilians were proud to watch and cheer for, and they were a match for any team in the world

Today, I would say that the problems of the Brazilian national team are many, but I would highlight the corruption that has taken place in the CBF, the disorganization in choosing a new coach, the old dogmas that the CBF still carries and the lack of a sense of community among the players
But even so, it's a team that is always among the favorites and can never be underestimated


If you're thinking of watching a Brazil game, I recommend Brazil vs Colombia which promises to be a great match as Colombia are playing VERY well and have everything it takes to be a team that will reach the semi-finals




A lot have been said about different generations of the Brazilian team and how they were almost unstoppable as well as how poor the current Brazil national team have been in their results. The Copa America is almost upon us and despite the intimidating quality of players in the Brazilian team, many still believe that they're very beatable. The Argentina national team is even seen as better team than their their Brazilian counterparts by some people. In my own opinion I think the Brazil national team stands a good chance of winning the Copa America this summer despite not having a high profile manager in the dugout.
 Talent wise, I don't think there's any other team that'll participate in the Copa America that's better than Brazil which is why I strongly believe that where team work doesn't favour them, individual brilliance will likely help them overcome.

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June 13, 2024, 10:14:33 PM
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Talent-wise, I don't think there's any other team that'll participate in the Copa America that's better than Brazil which is why I strongly believe that where teamwork doesn't favour them, individual brilliance will likely help them overcome.

I disagree with this. Brazil will either work as a team, or it won't work at all. Individual brilliance won't help them at all. The teams in the Copa America are very disciplined and compact, teams would find it very difficult to penetrate their opponents if they don't play as a team.
Secondly, I don't see anybody in Brazil who is good enough to win games for them and lead them with individual brilliance. Neymar is not here, Vinicius is not representing, Rodrygo is the only attacker that can step up and I don't believe even he has what it takes to individually take Brazil to the trophy.

When you watch Argentina, you'll see that they play as a team, even Messi plays with his teammates. That makes things easier for them. It is this reason that makes me rate Uruguay slightly above Brazil in this tournament. It's going to be interesting to watch.

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June 14, 2024, 11:48:01 AM
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I think it's time for Brazil to actually lift a trophy right ? It's been a while since they won Copa America and if they managed to do this , I think they will also win World Cup and go back 2 back champions in America.

Argentina has a strong squad as always but I feel the ego's on that team will guide them towards elimination and frankly Columbia is currently in a very great football form and I won't be surprised if these 2 will actually face each other in elimination game with Columbia emerging victorious.  Cool
I said at the beginning that the competition in the Copa America is always between two teams, Brazil and Argentina. Other than Brazil and Argentina, the other teams can win the trophy in less time. Brazil announced their best team ahead of the Copa America, on the other hand, we have seen Argentina always announce their best team since the World Cup. Not much has changed from Argentina's World Cup squad to the Copa America squad, but Brazil's squad has changed considerably. The way Brazil has performed in recent matches we can expect Brazil to do well.

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June 14, 2024, 12:20:51 PM
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Talent wise, I don't think there's any other team that'll participate in the Copa America that's better than Brazil which is why I strongly believe that where team work doesn't favour them, individual brilliance will likely help them overcome.

Too narrow if we judge only Brazil who has good talent because there are still Argentina, Uruguay, Chile who has good talent.
Individual expertise is not always prioritized in team games. Instead, having more players prioritizing individuals in the team will make the teamwork damaged and the results will not be good. In a team there is no need for too many players who have individual brilliance because this is a team game.
For those who know how this sport, they will not agree with you about it.

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You live in the old world, there are no more Messi, Ronaldo or Neymar. We have sufficient regeneration, and for Brazil we have Vinicius who has proven his achievements at club level.
I have the thought that many managers will be looking at out to work with them without the star players mentioned above rather than working with those old guys who are hanging their boots anytime soon.

It should be like that, the star players of the past were just icons, they no longer had running speed, stamina or other important things in the game. Look at how much hype there was when Cristiano went to the SPL, it created another wave of moves for other European players.

I think that's enough for this discussion, it's better if we get to the real point. Only 1 week before the first Copa America match which will be held in the US is played, there we have Argentina - Canada, in theory this will be an easy match for Argentina because they only play against Canada which isn't a strong team. What do you think? any other views?

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June 14, 2024, 04:31:34 PM
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I think it's time for Brazil to actually lift a trophy right ? It's been a while since they won Copa America and if they managed to do this , I think they will also win World Cup and go back 2 back champions in America.
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I don't believe that EGO can hinder the performance of the Argentine national team. They have been playing consistently for many years and are always competing for titles. It's no wonder that they have reached the final twice in the last 3 World Cups (2014 and 2022). This generation of Argentine players is very good.

Right, it is unlikely to happen, since they have showed themselves to be professionals and handle victories and defeats in a good way. Always searching for improvement of their skills. I only mentioned it because it is something I have seen happening to other teams of world class against other teams which were supposed not to be as prepared as they were, and the favorite team ended up losing for whatever reason.
Ego is always bad in any sport, because it leads to underestimate de abilities of the foe team, and opens the gates to blunts.
Only time will sell whether Argentina will keep their ego aside and do not underestimate their future opponents in the American Cup.

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June 14, 2024, 08:16:41 PM
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I think that's enough for this discussion, it's better if we get to the real point. Only 1 week before the first Copa America match which will be held in the US is played, there we have Argentina - Canada, in theory this will be an easy match for Argentina because they only play against Canada which isn't a strong team. What do you think? any other views?
One week left for the first match of Copa America and Argentina vs Canada will be the opening match, considering group round opponent teams I think not much problem for Argentina securing the first place on Group A because the difficult opponent teams likely only Chile than Canada or Peru are not difficult national team opponent for Argentina.
But against Canada on the first match, Argentina should secure three points how to make easily on second until third matches later, Argentina has ambition as the host want defend their Copa America trophy winning last edition and winning Copa America 2024 in front of their fans as most special achievement.

For the first match against Canada I have prediction with Argentina win over two goals and get potential Lionel Messi will score the goals on Copa America opening match.

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I think that's enough for this discussion, it's better if we get to the real point. Only 1 week before the first Copa America match which will be held in the US is played, there we have Argentina - Canada, in theory this will be an easy match for Argentina because they only play against Canada which isn't a strong team. What do you think? any other views?
One week left for the first match of Copa America and Argentina vs Canada will be the opening match, considering group round opponent teams I think not much problem for Argentina securing the first place on Group A because the difficult opponent teams likely only Chile than Canada or Peru are not difficult national team opponent for Argentina.
But against Canada on the first match, Argentina should secure three points how to make easily on second until third matches later, Argentina has ambition as the host want defend their Copa America trophy winning last edition and winning Copa America 2024 in front of their fans as most special achievement.

For the first match against Canada I have prediction with Argentina win over two goals and get potential Lionel Messi will score the goals on Copa America opening match.
This evening at the Allianz Arena in Munich, Germany kick started the 2024 UEFA Euros Championship against Scotland of which they convincingly defeated the British nation with a 5:1 scoreline. Now that the Euros have kicked off, football fans across the globe are now eagerly waiting for the kickoff of the Copa America so that the summer will become more interesting and eventful. In a week time, the first game of this year's Copa America will be played between Argentina and Canada. Canada as we all know isn't known to be a strong football nation so I don't expect them to get a result against the world champions.
Argentina will definitely win the game and probably with a wide margin. The interesting games of the tournament I think will start in the knockout stages where strong teams will meet other strong teams.

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June 14, 2024, 10:01:07 PM
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Talent wise, I don't think there's any other team that'll participate in the Copa America that's better than Brazil which is why I strongly believe that where team work doesn't favour them, individual brilliance will likely help them overcome.

Too narrow if we judge only Brazil who has good talent because there are still Argentina, Uruguay, Chile who has good talent.
Individual expertise is not always prioritized in team games. Instead, having more players prioritizing individuals in the team will make the teamwork damaged and the results will not be good. In a team there is no need for too many players who have individual brilliance because this is a team game.
For those who know how this sport, they will not agree with you about it.
You are right mate,too much of talent is not even good to me.A team will be packed with stars and they will end up achieving nothing incredible at the end of the season.For a country or a team to perform well,it's not because there are so many big name or bright starts in the team,it is because they have team spirit in them.If you look at PSG when they had Neymar, Mbape and Messi,they were not able to win the Champions league.where on earth will you get that three combination and you won't say they will win the Champions league.Football will humble you.All a team need is a good coach,determined players who are ready to work,and have team spirit.If you can get all these,then you are good to go.

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June 15, 2024, 07:27:29 AM
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I think that's enough for this discussion, it's better if we get to the real point. Only 1 week before the first Copa America match which will be held in the US is played, there we have Argentina - Canada, in theory this will be an easy match for Argentina because they only play against Canada which isn't a strong team. What do you think? any other views?
But against Canada on the first match, Argentina should secure three points how to make easily on second until third matches later, Argentina has ambition as the host want defend their Copa America trophy winning last edition and winning Copa America 2024 in front of their fans as most special achievement.

For the first match against Canada I have prediction with Argentina win over two goals and get potential Lionel Messi will score the goals on Copa America opening match.

Argentina isn't the host of the current edition of the Copa America, this competition is attended by 10 teams from CONMBEOL & 6 teams from CONCACAF and the host this time is US. I also wonder why the opening match was not played by the host team, instead it went to Argentina - Canada.

Argentina's normal handicap in this match is - 0.5 to - 0.75, so I think it will be very difficult for Argentina to win with Messi scoring too. Take a look at the betting markets and you will realize that we'll have more advantages if we go to Canada on handicap betting.

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June 15, 2024, 07:49:53 AM
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You live in the old world, there are no more Messi, Ronaldo or Neymar. We have sufficient regeneration, and for Brazil we have Vinicius who has proven his achievements at club level.

That's one point I will also love to endorse as there was a time where Messi, Ronaldo or Neymar were all unknown in the history of football and there will be a time they will be forgotten as well. This is why time is everything about life as it shapes the activities of the world over time. There are new generation of footballers now that are also doing some wonder jobs at the club side. They have the energy, the morale, the skills and the passion to work hard for the team especially if they have the opportunity to serve their nations. I have the thought that many managers will be looking at out to work with them without the star players mentioned above rather than working with those old guys who are hanging their boots anytime soon.
I think in the world of football no one will be able to forget Ronaldo and Messi, even though in the future there will be a new generation, they will become and place themselves alongside the legendary football legends of the future, especially the current generation in the world of football social media, with social media they will find out how great Ronaldo and Messi were in their time.

Indeed, from time to time many new talents will be born, but the figure of Messi Ronaldo will be a separate figure so that no one will forget him in the world of football, indeed this will be the end of their retirement due to age, but there are still many clubs and Also the coach wants to work with them because they have good experience and of course can be a motivator on and off the field, because they are legendary figures in football today.

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June 15, 2024, 08:17:35 AM
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I think that's enough for this discussion, it's better if we get to the real point. Only 1 week before the first Copa America match which will be held in the US is played, there we have Argentina - Canada, in theory this will be an easy match for Argentina because they only play against Canada which isn't a strong team. What do you think? any other views?
One week left for the first match of Copa America and Argentina vs Canada will be the opening match, considering group round opponent teams I think not much problem for Argentina securing the first place on Group A because the difficult opponent teams likely only Chile than Canada or Peru are not difficult national team opponent for Argentina.
But against Canada on the first match, Argentina should secure three points how to make easily on second until third matches later, Argentina has ambition as the host want defend their Copa America trophy winning last edition and winning Copa America 2024 in front of their fans as most special achievement.

For the first match against Canada I have prediction with Argentina win over two goals and get potential Lionel Messi will score the goals on Copa America opening match.
This is hard match for Canada because in the first match of this tournament Canada have to facing defending champion Argentina and i think their consistency will be tested in this match because we all know Argentina is one of the strongest team in this tournament with Brazil and before playing in this tournament Canada has been done several friendlies matches against European teams such as France and Netherlands but the match against France is really impressive because Canada can playing draw against this team

Canada has Jonathan David and Alphonso Davies and these players can performing well with their teams this season so Argentina should beware of them because potentially they can get Argentina in trouble and for Argentina i think we shouldn't discuss more about them because they are in the good shape especially as world cup champion status Argentina will have more motivation to defend their title in this tournament and the current Copa America also very special for their captain Messi because possibly this could be his last Copa America tournament with Argentina before he gets retired however about the betting option as the favourite the bookmakers was provide low odds for Argentina win @1.33 but indeed Argentina potentially can win with big scores from this match so over 2.5 goals also seems good to be considered

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I think in the world of football no one will be able to forget Ronaldo and Messi, even though in the future there will be a new generation, they will become and place themselves alongside the legendary football legends of the future, especially the current generation in the world of football social media, with social media they will find out how great Ronaldo and Messi were in their time.

Indeed, from time to time many new talents will be born, but the figure of Messi Ronaldo will be a separate figure so that no one will forget him in the world of football, indeed this will be the end of their retirement due to age, but there are still many clubs and Also the coach wants to work with them because they have good experience and of course can be a motivator on and off the field, because they are legendary figures in football today.

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June 15, 2024, 11:53:41 AM
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I think it's time for Brazil to actually lift a trophy right ? It's been a while since they won Copa America and if they managed to do this , I think they will also win World Cup and go back 2 back champions in America.

Argentina has a strong squad as always but I feel the ego's on that team will guide them towards elimination and frankly Columbia is currently in a very great football form and I won't be surprised if these 2 will actually face each other in elimination game with Columbia emerging victorious.  Cool
I said at the beginning that the competition in the Copa America is always between two teams, Brazil and Argentina. Other than Brazil and Argentina, the other teams can win the trophy in less time. Brazil announced their best team ahead of the Copa America, on the other hand, we have seen Argentina always announce their best team since the World Cup. Not much has changed from Argentina's World Cup squad to the Copa America squad, but Brazil's squad has changed considerably. The way Brazil has performed in recent matches we can expect Brazil to do well.
This is a possibility in the last 2 years but you still have to be wary of Chile and Uruguay because these two countries are said to be very strong this year, even though we haven't seen a match from either of them, these two countries are strengthened by quite good players, plus the hosts The United States and Mexico also have to be wary of the game they had in the world cup yesterday, even though Argentina is the defending champion, it is likely that they will not be as easy to do as they were 2 years ago.

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June 15, 2024, 12:14:29 PM
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It looks like the last champion Argentina have a nice group to finish in the 1st place.  Smiley  Chile might be the most challenging competitor. But I don't think they are as strong as their past years. They won the Copa America twice in a row many years ago but they had much better players who were in their golden eras. Now some of them are still in the squad but they have got old - such as Alexis Sanchez.  Sad

I think the champion will be no different than Argentina or Brazil. I'm favouring Argentina now. Brazil have a new manager and we don't know how good they will play yet.



This is the bracket. Let's say Argentina completed Group A as the leader and Brazil did the same in Group D. Then there is a big chance to watch a finale between. I hope it happens.  Roll Eyes

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June 15, 2024, 12:27:00 PM
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I think it's time for Brazil to actually lift a trophy right ? It's been a while since they won Copa America and if they managed to do this , I think they will also win World Cup and go back 2 back champions in America.

Argentina has a strong squad as always but I feel the ego's on that team will guide them towards elimination and frankly Columbia is currently in a very great football form and I won't be surprised if these 2 will actually face each other in elimination game with Columbia emerging victorious.  Cool
I said at the beginning that the competition in the Copa America is always between two teams, Brazil and Argentina. Other than Brazil and Argentina, the other teams can win the trophy in less time. Brazil announced their best team ahead of the Copa America, on the other hand, we have seen Argentina always announce their best team since the World Cup. Not much has changed from Argentina's World Cup squad to the Copa America squad, but Brazil's squad has changed considerably. The way Brazil has performed in recent matches we can expect Brazil to do well.
I agree that Argentina and Brazil are always candidates to appear in the final. Because if you look at the opportunities of other countries, the opportunities are not that big. Argentina has a capable squad but Brazil is also much more capable and evenly matched in every line. I have no other choice to win the trophy at the Copa America apart from these 2 countries. Brazil front line can attack from various positions, Brazil midfield and back line are very solid, just like Argentina where Messi, De Maria and Garnacho have troublesome abilities, midfield, defenders and goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez are still goalkeepers who are difficult to penetrate.

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June 15, 2024, 12:53:52 PM
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Talent wise, I don't think there's any other team that'll participate in the Copa America that's better than Brazil which is why I strongly believe that where team work doesn't favour them, individual brilliance will likely help them overcome.

Too narrow if we judge only Brazil who has good talent because there are still Argentina, Uruguay, Chile who has good talent.
Individual expertise is not always prioritized in team games. Instead, having more players prioritizing individuals in the team will make the teamwork damaged and the results will not be good. In a team there is no need for too many players who have individual brilliance because this is a team game.
For those who know how this sport, they will not agree with you about it.
But individual factors greatly affect the enthusiasm of the team. But Brazil has an average skill in each player, in contrast to Argentina who only relies on Leo. Argentina has a high enthusiasm after they won the Qatar World Cup last season, although Brazil was only able to survive in the quartel-final round. Copa America is more dominated by Argentina. But this season Brazil the Copa American champion candidate. Of course there are Chile, America, Paraguay and others. But according to us, see from many predictions, Brazil is more dominating.

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June 15, 2024, 01:35:22 PM
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For those who want to watch or bet on Copa America matches, my suggestion is to watch and analyze the Colombian team
I won't go into too much detail yet, but I'm thinking of focusing my bets on Brazil and Colombia
The Colombian team is 22 games unbeaten, and take a look at the teams they've faced during this unbeaten run HERE

Could be contenders for a final in my opinion

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