Copa America 2024 Prediction Thread

[famososMuertos]

The golden generation cannot be golden all the time and that’s what is happening to Brazil at the moment. ...//...

Well, that with Brazil is difficult to define, they always have it, what is known is that one of the best golden generations of all time that never won a World Cup, and could not win anything, was Brazil in the 70s and the 80s, Zico, Socrates, Junior and company, were one of the best teams of all time, they didn't win anything.

Almost the same thing happens with Argentina, only it was not marked as a failure, because Messi, Di Maria, and a couple of other players maintained the image of that great generation that almost left without a great title.

The point is, that with teams like Argentina and Brazil it is difficult to mention that the golden generations are never there, they always have elite teams/goldens.

The golden generation cannot be golden all the time and that’s what is happening to Brazil at the moment. They were times in which at every tournament they are the favourites but right now they’re ain’t up there with best. This is not even about not having the best players but the commitment to me is lacking.
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Maybe you tried to mention: "the commitment" to his national team and not think so much about the millions he earns in his clubs...

[Juse14]

Yes indeed, regarding the Copa America I think the biggest chance to win and get the trophy is about Brazil and Argentina but even so, in reality Brazil and Argentina also don't always succeed in getting it. Because, on several previous occasions, the Copa America trophy was won by teams such as Chile, Uruguay, Colombia and several other teams also experienced success, such as Peru, Paraguay and also Bolovia. But even so, still, the flags of Brazil and Argentina remain the biggest candidates to win the trophy, moreover Brazil and  Argentina always produce or have potential young players. Therefore, I think it makes sense that Brazil and Argentina are thebiggest candidate teams to win the Copa America trophy at this moment.

Is there a better team than Argentina and Brazil so far in the Copa America?
So far we know Brazil and Argentina are two big teams that continue to be giants in the Americas, their dominance in the Copa America is certainly not in doubt, so indeed for the current Copa America of course they are strong candidates to be able to become champions, Argentina previously managed to win the Copa America and with a squad that was indeed filled by the majority of players in the previous Copa of course it is not impossible for them to be able to win the Copa America consecutively, Brazil, which is currently starting to rely on young players, of course, is still worthy of the favorite even though their chances are not better than Argentina in my opinion.

Argentina is so far a team that has a quite capable squad by still relying on Messi and Martinez in the front line, so we can indeed say that if their squad is quite balanced with a combination of young players, indeed we cannot deny that other teams can give a surprise in the Copa but I think they are not capable enough to be able to break the dominance of Brazil and Argentina so far.

The Copa America is generally dominated by Argentina and Brazil, two giants in the football world. No team has consistently outperformed these two sides in the tournament history. Argentina, boasting a blend of experienced players such as Messi and Martinez alongside some young talent, stands a good chance at defending their title. On the other hand, Brazil, although more dependent on young players, still emerges as a strong contender due to their quality intrinsic and considerable potential.

It is indeed possible that other teams could surprise but considering the history and strength of the squad, Argentina and Brazil remain the strongest contenders for clinching the Copa America title. Their players' balance plus quality makes them not easy to beat by any other teams on the American continent.

[hahay]

Neymar, despite having chosen to be a celebrity instead of an athlete, is still the best Brazilian player in activity, he has been leading the Brazilian team for more than 10 years... He is the last of what could be called a "star" Brazilian, that is, a player who has all the fundamentals of a great player... the rest of the Brazilian team only has "ok" or "common" players... There is nothing that can be done, this generation of Brazilians It's very weak compared to what it had in the past

You like him more than I do 
In my opinion, if he was more humble and had a good mentality, he would have won a lot more titles and maybe even a World Cup


Now that I'm going to take part in the Poll I have to study the groups and teams well to try and get as many results as possible hehehe
Apart from the poll, I'll still be placing my bets as normal, I've even sorted out my bankroll because the Copa America is starting in 3 days' time, I'm really looking forward to it

It is a pity that Neymar is not included in the Brazil squad in this Copa America but indeed, the injury factor experienced by Neymar may also be one of the factors that Neymar is no longer included in the Brazil squad at this moment. But indeed, although Neymar is a star player, but Neymar very often suffers from long injuries and thus, Neymar is not fully successful to give many trophies to Brazil. But about Brazil's chances in this Copa America which is joined in group D with Paraguay, Colombia and Costa Rica, I personally believe that Brazil will be able to qualify maybe until the final match vs Argentina, who knows. Because anyway, even though there is no Neymar in the Brazilian squad, but the fact is that Brazil still has many great players and is still relatively young too and thus, their ambition is very high to achieve good results with the Brazilian national team.

[Docnaster]

Yes indeed, regarding the Copa America I think the biggest chance to win and get the trophy is about Brazil and Argentina but even so, in reality Brazil and Argentina also don't always succeed in getting it. Because, on several previous occasions, the Copa America trophy was won by teams such as Chile, Uruguay, Colombia and several other teams also experienced success, such as Peru, Paraguay and also Bolovia. But even so, still, the flags of Brazil and Argentina remain the biggest candidates to win the trophy, moreover Brazil and  Argentina always produce or have potential young players. Therefore, I think it makes sense that Brazil and Argentina are thebiggest candidate teams to win the Copa America trophy at this moment.

Is there a better team than Argentina and Brazil so far in the Copa America?
So far we know Brazil and Argentina are two big teams that continue to be giants in the Americas, their dominance in the Copa America is certainly not in doubt, so indeed for the current Copa America of course they are strong candidates to be able to become champions, Argentina previously managed to win the Copa America and with a squad that was indeed filled by the majority of players in the previous Copa of course it is not impossible for them to be able to win the Copa America consecutively, Brazil, which is currently starting to rely on young players, of course, is still worthy of the favorite even though their chances are not better than Argentina in my opinion.

Argentina is so far a team that has a quite capable squad by still relying on Messi and Martinez in the front line, so we can indeed say that if their squad is quite balanced with a combination of young players, indeed we cannot deny that other teams can give a surprise in the Copa but I think they are not capable enough to be able to break the dominance of Brazil and Argentina so far.

I'm terms of the most talented squads that'll participate in the upcoming Copa America finals, I don't think there's any team that's stronger or better than the duo of Argentina and Brazil. Of all the teams that'll participate in the competition, it'll be absolutely surprising for any of them to win the tournament ahead of the two footballing countries. As far as I'm concerned, the Copa America is a competition that fans across the globe are very more interested in watching the performance of both Argentina and Brazil and to analyze which if them is better than the other.
For me I'll be supporting the Brazilian national team to win this summer's edition of the Copa America but that doesn't mean that I'll be surprised if Argentina overpowers them to claim the trophy. Football is one sports that's been connecting people across the globe irrespective of their race or beliefs so despite the fact that I'm not from the continent, I'm looking forward to the start of fge competition

[buwaytress]

hahay, Docnaster, you guys supporting teams in Copa? Then make sure you make it count by joining the pool here.

Personally, looking forward to the bets rdluffy will make (don't forget to share them!), curious to see what the locals think when placing bets. I'm going to snipe at Colombia when/if they're down. Pointless to bet on Arg/Bra I think.

[Palakka]

I'm terms of the most talented squads that'll participate in the upcoming Copa America finals, I don't think there's any team that's stronger or better than the duo of Argentina and Brazil. Of all the teams that'll participate in the competition, it'll be absolutely surprising for any of them to win the tournament ahead of the two footballing countries. As far as I'm concerned, the Copa America is a competition that fans across the globe are very more interested in watching the performance of both Argentina and Brazil and to analyze which if them is better than the other.
For me I'll be supporting the Brazilian national team to win this summer's edition of the Copa America but that doesn't mean that I'll be surprised if Argentina overpowers them to claim the trophy. Football is one sports that's been connecting people across the globe irrespective of their race or beliefs so despite the fact that I'm not from the continent, I'm looking forward to the start of fge competition

As I said before, the Copa America only has a few countries that compete in it so we don't see any other option not to favor Brazil or Argentina, both countries continue to have good talented that are indeed endless so far, every year they continue to be able to orbit players who can indeed continue to continue their records and also the toughness of previous players,  Brazil, of course, is currently mostly filled with young players, so we can say that they have a good enough performance and stamina at the moment, so we all hope that in the final match we will see them.

If you choose Brazil, of course, I personally prefer to see that Argentina is a strong candidate to win the copa American trophy again this year, because I think with the current squad, of course, Argentina looks more perfect and very balanced both in terms of their performance and experience, if you look at the Argentine lineup that does combine young and senior players,  I think you would also think that Argentina has a greater chance than Brazil at the moment.

[criptoevangelista]

I'm terms of the most talented squads that'll participate in the upcoming Copa America finals, I don't think there's any team that's stronger or better than the duo of Argentina and Brazil. Of all the teams that'll participate in the competition, it'll be absolutely surprising for any of them to win the tournament ahead of the two footballing countries. As far as I'm concerned, the Copa America is a competition that fans across the globe are very more interested in watching the performance of both Argentina and Brazil and to analyze which if them is better than the other.
For me I'll be supporting the Brazilian national team to win this summer's edition of the Copa America but that doesn't mean that I'll be surprised if Argentina overpowers them to claim the trophy. Football is one sports that's been connecting people across the globe irrespective of their race or beliefs so despite the fact that I'm not from the continent, I'm looking forward to the start of fge competition

As I said before, the Copa America only has a few countries that compete in it so we don't see any other option not to favor Brazil or Argentina, both countries continue to have good talented that are indeed endless so far, every year they continue to be able to orbit players who can indeed continue to continue their records and also the toughness of previous players,  Brazil, of course, is currently mostly filled with young players, so we can say that they have a good enough performance and stamina at the moment, so we all hope that in the final match we will see them.

If you choose Brazil, of course, I personally prefer to see that Argentina is a strong candidate to win the copa American trophy again this year, because I think with the current squad, of course, Argentina looks more perfect and very balanced both in terms of their performance and experience, if you look at the Argentine lineup that does combine young and senior players,  I think you would also think that Argentina has a greater chance than Brazil at the moment.

The Argentine team is much, much superior to the horrible Brazilian team, this Brazilian team doesn't even have a standard of play, it has difficulties against equally bad teams... In a tournament worth cups, whoever has the most experience and consistency wins, so Argentina mixes experience with talent, it is a very strong candidate for the title... and I would put Uruguay as the second candidate... Brazil with this team will only play without major intentions... Anyway. nothing is impossible, but I would be VERY SURPRISED if the Brazilian team at least reached the final.

[Franctoshi]

I'm terms of the most talented squads that'll participate in the upcoming Copa America finals, I don't think there's any team that's stronger or better than the duo of Argentina and Brazil. Of all the teams that'll participate in the competition, it'll be absolutely surprising for any of them to win the tournament ahead of the two footballing countries. As far as I'm concerned, the Copa America is a competition that fans across the globe are very more interested in watching the performance of both Argentina and Brazil and to analyze which if them is better than the other.
For me I'll be supporting the Brazilian national team to win this summer's edition of the Copa America but that doesn't mean that I'll be surprised if Argentina overpowers them to claim the trophy. Football is one sports that's been connecting people across the globe irrespective of their race or beliefs so despite the fact that I'm not from the continent, I'm looking forward to the start of fge competition

Yes you are very correct when it comes to the side of Argentina team, beacuse here we are talking about a team that is the current world cup Champions, A formidable team with talented and an incredible number of players in there to talk about. From my point of view the Brazilian team rate has dropped and I don't really see them as my second favourite team this tournament, So ,Chile in the past competition has really demonstrated a good consistent performance in the past Copa America competition.

[ILuckyGuyI]

It was said that it was just part of an advertisement, Ronaldinho didn't really say it. Many people were shaken after Ronaldinho made this statement, the actual fact is that Ronaldinho still supports the Brazilian national team wholeheartedly.

Yeah, the reality is different. Just as you said it was only for an ad campaign that's all. Otherwise I was also surprised to hear such serious words from Ronaldinho. 

Related source => https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10124985-ronaldinho-says-criticism-of-brazils-2024-copa-america-roster-is-part-of-ad-campaign

Raphinha even said that Ronaldinho asked Vinicius Junior about the availability of some tickets a few days before. 



Aside from that, it is actually a truth that Brazil need to make a big progress with their current manager. They have a squad with lots of potential but teamwork is so limited.    I haven't liked them at all in the 2026 World Cup qualifiers until now.

[Alpha Marine]

Aside from that, it is actually a truth that Brazil need to make a big progress with their current manager. They have a squad with lots of potential but teamwork is so limited.    I haven't liked them at all in the 2026 World Cup qualifiers until now.

All things considered, Brazil doesn't really have a very great squad. They have a talented squad I know but it's not very great. The players they have are not world class in their positions like they used to have in the past. Only players like Vinicius and Allison are among the top 5 in their positions in the world and Vinicius is usually non-existent in a Brazilian shit.
They can be a great team if they play as a team, but playing individually makes things more difficult for them. The Brazil or old had all the individual qualities but still played as a team and that is why they were successful.

If they must play individually, they they all have to be world-class players who can produce something out of nothing otherwise, they have to play as a team.
That's the major difference between them and Uruguay and Argentina. Argentina plays as a team. Everybody does his job and helps their teammates do theirs on the pitch.
This Copa America, I don't see Brazil winning it. In the state they are, they would have had a better chance if Neymar was available.

[KTChampions]

It is a pity that Neymar is not included in the Brazil squad in this Copa America but indeed, the injury factor experienced by Neymar may also be one of the factors that Neymar is no longer included in the Brazil squad at this moment. But indeed, although Neymar is a star player, but Neymar very often suffers from long injuries and thus, Neymar is not fully successful to give many trophies to Brazil. But about Brazil's chances in this Copa America which is joined in group D with Paraguay, Colombia and Costa Rica, I personally believe that Brazil will be able to qualify maybe until the final match vs Argentina, who knows. Because anyway, even though there is no Neymar in the Brazilian squad, but the fact is that Brazil still has many great players and is still relatively young too and thus, their ambition is very high to achieve good results with the Brazilian national team.

I may not be too respectful of Neymar, but Brazil will be stronger without him (or certainly not weaker). To beat Colombia and Costa Rica you don’t need him, but to beat Argentina you need a more hard-working football player than the capricious Neymar. He has long (probably since his move to PSG) wanted to play only “star” games and is becoming more and more lazy in “ordinary” ones. But it doesn’t happen that you play poorly somewhere and then suddenly return to the top level. It seems that already when he moved to Al-Hilal, in some game for Al-Hilal he was “injured”, but at the same time he went to play for the Brazilian national team.

[rdluffy]

I may not be too respectful of Neymar, but Brazil will be stronger without him (or certainly not weaker). To beat Colombia and Costa Rica you don’t need him, but to beat Argentina you need a more hard-working football player than the capricious Neymar. He has long (probably since his move to PSG) wanted to play only “star” games and is becoming more and more lazy in “ordinary” ones. But it doesn’t happen that you play poorly somewhere and then suddenly return to the top level. It seems that already when he moved to Al-Hilal, in some game for Al-Hilal he was “injured”, but at the same time he went to play for the Brazilian national team.

My opinion on Neymar is that Brazil should already disregard the player for the future
Yes, he has played and can play very well, but the problems he carries are detrimental to the team as a whole
In a match against Argentina, for example, Neymar loses his mind easily and affects the Brazilian team, just look at how many times he has done this playing for the team

He's an experienced player but he still makes the mistakes of a teenager who can't control himself, so I prefer a player who thinks in the whole team, to play in harmony with others

[Slow death]

The Copa America is generally dominated by Argentina and Brazil, two giants in the football world. No team has consistently outperformed these two sides in the tournament history. Argentina, boasting a blend of experienced players such as Messi and Martinez alongside some young talent, stands a good chance at defending their title. On the other hand, Brazil, although more dependent on young players, still emerges as a strong contender due to their quality intrinsic and considerable potential.

It is indeed possible that other teams could surprise but considering the history and strength of the squad, Argentina and Brazil remain the strongest contenders for clinching the Copa America title. Their players' balance plus quality makes them not easy to beat by any other teams on the American continent.

the Copa América is not only dominated by Brazil and Argentina, for example Brazil is the third biggest team when it comes to the greatest number of times each team has won the Copa América, Argentina is at the top and Uruguay is in second place, See this photo to make it easier to understand what I'm talking about:



source: https://www.90min.com/posts/copa-america-winners-most-successful-nations

see that Uruguay won 15 times while Brazil only won 9 times, so it's not like Brazil is at the top of the list when it comes to the Copa América, and even Brazil's victories are recent achievements, which means that some years Back then they had fewer titles, perhaps the fact that Brazil has good players who play in the big teams in Europe makes people think that they are a very strong national team, but that is not true, this Brazilian national team is very weak , see their performance in the friendly games, see their performance in the world cup qualifying games, to get an idea, here is a photo of Brazil's situation in the world cup qualifying table:



Even with this change of coach that Brazil made, in my opinion Brazil is still very weak, with this team they have no chance of winning the World Cup and may have a lot of difficulty winning this Copa América. It is enough to see that in the last game that Brazil played, it was a few days ago, in a game in which Brazil played against the United States of America and they drew and the United States of America also participates in the Copa America. So there is a good chance that Brazil will leave this tournament without achieving anything in my opinion

[Bobrox]

I may not be too respectful of Neymar, but Brazil will be stronger without him (or certainly not weaker). To beat Colombia and Costa Rica you don’t need him, but to beat Argentina you need a more hard-working football player than the capricious Neymar. He has long (probably since his move to PSG) wanted to play only “star” games and is becoming more and more lazy in “ordinary” ones. But it doesn’t happen that you play poorly somewhere and then suddenly return to the top level. It seems that already when he moved to Al-Hilal, in some game for Al-Hilal he was “injured”, but at the same time he went to play for the Brazilian national team.

Brazil national teams right now have Vinicius Jr and Rodrygo performed well with their club and success winning Champion League trophy, I don't think Brazil need Neymar with his performance still inconsistency and right now have downgrade career after playing with Al Hilal as Saudi Pro League teams. The era of Neymar have been over and recently Brazil full by youth talented players and not difficult looking for great players has more skill than Neymar.

In Copa America, Brazil at Group D and seems not getting difficult for 16 round ticket behind the opponent teams Colombia, Costa Rica and Paraguay. Seems Brazil get chance for leading the Group D and get opportunity for facing the second team standings team on Group C. Based on their squad recently Brazil has opportunity become the winner of Copa America 2024 but Argentina will be strong opportunity in the final round with both team possibility will face in the final round.

[Hanadawa]

The Copa America is generally dominated by Argentina and Brazil, two giants in the football world. No team has consistently outperformed these two sides in the tournament history. Argentina, boasting a blend of experienced players such as Messi and Martinez alongside some young talent, stands a good chance at defending their title. On the other hand, Brazil, although more dependent on young players, still emerges as a strong contender due to their quality intrinsic and considerable potential.

If you look at history since 2000, five teams have won the Copa America, namely Colombia, Brazil, Uruguay, Chile and Argentina. This shows that in the modern era of football, Brazil and Argentina no longer dominate the Copa America. In my opinion, this is actually a good thing because it means the tournament is very competitive and will be as exciting to watch as Euro 2024. Brazil has been the champion since 2000. But at the moment I think they have the worst squad ever. This is the same as what Ronaldinho said some time ago (CMIIW). But despite this they are still one of the strongest in South America. But I think Argentina will win the Copa America again this year.

[criptoevangelista]

Even with this change of coach that Brazil made, in my opinion Brazil is still very weak, with this team they have no chance of winning the World Cup and may have a lot of difficulty winning this Copa América. It is enough to see that in the last game that Brazil played, it was a few days ago, in a game in which Brazil played against the United States of America and they drew and the United States of America also participates in the Copa America. So there is a good chance that Brazil will leave this tournament without achieving anything in my opinion

I know a lot about Dorival Junior's work, throughout his career he was a coach with a profile similar to the one he was hired by CBF... Second option or conciliator... He even had good jobs at São Paulo and Flamengo, but he was never a great strategist or a daring coach, his work never lasted long at the clubs, like starting and ending a season with consistency, he was always either fired, or hired in the middle of the championship... As I always say , this Brazilian team is one of the worst of all time, I don't believe it will have a good championship...

[Palakka]

The Argentine team is much, much superior to the horrible Brazilian team, this Brazilian team doesn't even have a standard of play, it has difficulties against equally bad teams... In a tournament worth cups, whoever has the most experience and consistency wins, so Argentina mixes experience with talent, it is a very strong candidate for the title... and I would put Uruguay as the second candidate... Brazil with this team will only play without major intentions... Anyway. nothing is impossible, but I would be VERY SURPRISED if the Brazilian team at least reached the final.

Brazil has recorded itself as the most third country that has won the Copa America trophy, while currently Argentina and Uruguay are the teams that have won the most American trophies so far, the Brazil squad this season does not look promising but I think they are still capable enough to reach the semifinals or finals later with Argentina, but even so we should not underestimate other teams that are now also starting to have the strength to Competing with Brazil and Argentina, talking about Brazil, of course we cannot deny that the current Brazil squad is mostly very talented young talents, but in terms of experience and mentality, of course they are still very doubtful.

Unlike Argentina who continue to combine their squad to maintain the stability of the team to continue to be able to compete in the future, currently even their legend Ronaldinho also admits that the current Brazil squad is incompetent and finds it difficult to be able to compete with the Latin American other country and even when the Brazilian legend himself says that currently Brazil is at its lowest point, of course it is difficult for us to bet on their current victory.

[rdluffy]

Unlike Argentina who continue to combine their squad to maintain the stability of the team to continue to be able to compete in the future, currently even their legend Ronaldinho also admits that the current Brazil squad is incompetent and finds it difficult to be able to compete with the Latin American other country and even when the Brazilian legend himself says that currently Brazil is at its lowest point, of course it is difficult for us to bet on their current victory.

I think it's not the worst team of Brazil. There have been worse teams, but the whole situation is not good
It's curious to say that because any national team in the world would like to have brazilian players as starters in their teams, like Vinicius Jr, Rodrygo, Endrick etc, but there's still a lack of serious and continuous work that the CBF (Soccer Brazilian Confederation in translation) can't do

I also find it difficult to bet because in any game, even if they play badly, the Brazilian team has players who can solve the match with a single move, as is the case with Vinicius JR, who has even scored very important goals for Real Madrid
And never, never underestimate Brazil when it comes to betting

[KTChampions]

I may not be too respectful of Neymar, but Brazil will be stronger without him (or certainly not weaker). To beat Colombia and Costa Rica you don’t need him, but to beat Argentina you need a more hard-working football player than the capricious Neymar. He has long (probably since his move to PSG) wanted to play only “star” games and is becoming more and more lazy in “ordinary” ones. But it doesn’t happen that you play poorly somewhere and then suddenly return to the top level. It seems that already when he moved to Al-Hilal, in some game for Al-Hilal he was “injured”, but at the same time he went to play for the Brazilian national team.

My opinion on Neymar is that Brazil should already disregard the player for the future
Yes, he has played and can play very well, but the problems he carries are detrimental to the team as a whole
In a match against Argentina, for example, Neymar loses his mind easily and affects the Brazilian team, just look at how many times he has done this playing for the team

He's an experienced player but he still makes the mistakes of a teenager who can't control himself, so I prefer a player who thinks in the whole team, to play in harmony with others

Yep, that's true. He is a capricious player and with age he has not solved his emotional problems (while Vinnie, for example, has significantly increased his self-control in just a few years).
The problem with players like Neymar is that they are bright, they are praised by the fans and they are remembered for generations, but if they win something, it is mostly merit of other team players.

[boltz]

2 days left guys and we will have a full day of actually watching top football without leaving our sofa   .

Argentina - Canada will be the opening game and we all know Canada has a solid team capable of scoring goals and that's why I do see a both teams to score in this opening game with Argentina taking 3 points in the end because the experience and the pressure on them will make this team to deliver top football.