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December 09, 2023, 04:16:01 AM
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When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

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December 09, 2023, 05:08:56 AM
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When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

Definitely, odd makers specially coming from Las Vegas already knows what the opening line will be either ML or those handicaps. And that's why most of the time that odds are not that great because they know that the chance might be higher for us to win.

But as a gambler, that's where we take our risk, if odd makers says that X team, in case of basketball will win by this -1.5 for example. We might go and risk as base on our own analysis that X team can win by more than that points, so we might be looking at 1.7x or higher odd instead of the usual 1.6x or lower they are going to put up initially.

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December 09, 2023, 05:21:27 AM
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When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.
Technically analysis of the game will determine exactly if you will win or not, where the analyst of team start, it starts from the features and start checking the loophole of the team that contribute for their down fall or not, I don't know how you play your own game but I know that before you win any game as a good gambler you have to take your time to analysis the game before you can book any game because without analysing the game you will not have a strong belive that you are going win or not, a statistics is very important to me because of it what will give you that confidence to have a bold standing to confidently stake your game

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December 09, 2023, 05:34:01 AM
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in some sports and in certain time events, with the right training you can "scalp" by just looking at the odds and obtaining a high level of winnings.
This Is not a mistery since hundreds of players are doing daily as business option.

obviously it requires time and often also requires dedicated software but it is nothing really impossible to achieve.

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December 09, 2023, 05:51:37 AM
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When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

I don't have a friend who is a bookie so I'm not really sure about this perspective (that bookies have very strong analytical skills and already know which team will win), I also really like betting on sports and have tried analyzing a match long before the match starts, but the final result I don't always get is a win, I also get a lot of losses. Some people also think that the bookie's chances of winning are much greater than the bettor's, well I don't think so either.
 

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December 09, 2023, 06:02:59 AM
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When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

For sure, the bookies and the gambling sites will give you odds after seeing all these aspects of the sports and the game which is in question. If you are a regular gambler, you won't see that gamblers are being given higher odds for the teams that are likely to win. Similarly if a certain team is handicapped or less chance of winnings, then you will usually find higher odds for them.

I don't have a friend who is a bookie so I'm not really sure about this perspective (that bookies have very strong analytical skills and already know which team will win),
 

I do not think that bookies will know who can win the match, they only play with probabilities, where the probability of a team is high to win, they will give us less odds for that and where the probability of a win is low, they will give more odds to us. We have to have a plan and bet on them using some money management techniques.

Betting lines and odds can be used also to determine who has more chances to win the match and it is more useful if someone does not have the idea of sports or team he or she is betting on.

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December 09, 2023, 06:04:42 AM
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That is true, I believe bookmakers are watchful about the likely outcomes of matches and what analysis cum options gamblers could go for.

Have we wondered why in some football games, some betting options are not available to be staked in that match? I'm beginning to reason that out too myself, probably they understand it could be a likely easy outcome and so they rather make it unavailable. Probably so, and gamblers have no option than go for other options without choice. This could be likely so, that bookmakers are really at work to read the minds of gamblers on likely outcomes of predictions.

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December 09, 2023, 06:15:31 AM
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When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?
Yes, I mean you can do that by luck and by analyzing the situation base on the players performance and most of all by intuition. I think I do agree on you for that, right now I'm into live betting rather than just betting before the game. Most of the time I'm into low odds and most of the time they tend to follow the plan I'm betting.

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December 09, 2023, 06:28:35 AM
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Bookmakers will be much smarter than us gamblers and they have working system for betting by giving odds according to the percentage of each team or player in the match that will take place, even bookmakers can always provide what makes us interested in the odd.
And that is why carrying out several analysis efforts using only news and rumors will never be successful and will only be in vain because the predictions that the analyst can have are only uncertain predictions.
At any time changes in the playing quality of each team or player will change but the bookmaker can know all this from the start and we as gamblers cannot be like bookies who can easily determine who will win.
Bookmakers are smart, they have such an advantage over us that no gambler can really win absolutely on sports betting except those who can really understand and have accurate predictions.

But gamblers can actually get an easier win, it just win with very low odd.
Moreover, for every sporting event or match, I sure there is intervention from the betting bookies where they will be able to direct the course of the match in determining each respective advantage.

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December 09, 2023, 06:33:19 AM
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Well although bookmakers are good, they're not perfect. You still have to analyze. Analyzing the details can give you that edge, that little extra insight and mixing your analysis with those betting lines might just be the winning combo.

But let's be real, there are no sure bets. Sports are unpredictable and even the best analysts can't guarantee a win every time. So while checking out those lines is smart just keep things fun.

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December 09, 2023, 06:37:49 AM
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Some people also think that the bookie's chances of winning are much greater than the bettor's, well I don't think so either.
 

I think it's a wrong perception to think that way, bookies aren't the house like a casino where they had games and you play against the house. Bookies more like a facilitator of our bets and bookmakers job are the making lines and odds that would attract even actions, but adjustments are always their as balancing is always the main goal.

Why balance the action? This is to ensure that bookies accept as maybe bets as they can so they can increase the juice they'll ba making.

For example, team A had +2.5 vs team B -2.5, both have odds of 1.90, so regardless on what team will win, bookies will always pocket 10% of the total bets from the winning bets.

 
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December 09, 2023, 06:49:32 AM
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How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?
This is my speciality in gambling, at least when I am fully prepared to bet to make money, sportsbook have been my thing.

The main point is for you to find the right sports that you fully understand, and look for the satisfactory odds as I don't just bet on sports too, I make sure that the odd makes sense and no matter how sure the game is for me, if the odds are not "something to write home about," I will never go for it.

After all, it's about money and risk must be involved. So, the risk is the higher odds that I go for because if the game is so sure for my option, they wouldn't have apportioned such an odd to it. I love 2.0 and above, but I can still do a little lower than that. On the contrary, I do not think that the bookies are powerful here, you just find the right odds for yourself, and if they beat the odds down (where they only have power since they can't rig it), it's your choice to go for it or not. As for me, I will look for the ones that would fool them so as for them not to beat the odds down. This has been helping me for long.

I also make sure that I play independent games in sports betting.

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Some people also think that the bookie's chances of winning are much greater than the bettor's, well I don't think so either.
 

I think it's a wrong perception to think that way, bookies aren't the house like a casino where they had games and you play against the house. Bookies more like a facilitator of our bets and bookmakers job are the making lines and odds that would attract even actions, but adjustments are always their as balancing is always the main goal.

Why balance the action? This is to ensure that bookies accept as maybe bets as they can so they can increase the juice they'll ba making.

For example, team A had +2.5 vs team B -2.5, both have odds of 1.90, so regardless on what team will win, bookies will always pocket 10% of the total bets from the winning bets.

Also this is not like the bookies will win or lose based on the luck. They have the odds in place and in most cases, no matter which team wins or loses the bookies are in profit. Since bookies give less odds to the favourite team, so even if bookies have to give money to the gamblers, it is not that much because the odds are low.

Although it requires a little bit of math to understand, but being a bookie is a profitable business as compared to being a gambler. but not everyone can become a bookie because it needs a lot of initial capital which the ordinary gamblers do not possess.

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December 09, 2023, 06:57:44 AM
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Isn't that obvious?

Which bookmarker you'd find Manchester City is the favorite team if the match was against Luton Town, Sheffield United or Burnley? even the match was away, the eleven players were injured, Pep was sick or anything that makes other teams has an edge over Manchester City, all of them still not enough to become favorite.

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December 09, 2023, 07:12:26 AM
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Isn't that obvious?

Yep, that's how it is, odd makers, knows about it at the very onset, that's why they can put as low as certain favorites to be like 1.01x odds in some matches. And then you can see some as close like 1.8 to 1.9x odds.

But in any case you like to to against what the odd makers put because you know a thing about the sports that you are betting, then for sure you will have to with your instinct specially if the odds are very high and the odd makers are wrong about it.

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Although it requires a little bit of math to understand, but being a bookie is a profitable business as compared to being a gambler.

Because these are two seperate things, bookies are pure business, while gamblers are clients/customers, and most of the time it's the bookies who make money reason why it's easy for them to expand. We should know our chances of winning, although we might assume that there's no house edge in sports betting, but mathematically, sportsbook are design to be profitable and bookmakers are ensuring it'll happen.


but not everyone can become a bookie because it needs a lot of initial capital which the ordinary gamblers do not possess.

Few bookies, and lots of gamblers, that's the norm in sports gambling.

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Replying this based on your title..
People do not  know what would comes after each an every game selections and even the winning itself is not defined because there are people who has been doing that and if it was that easy and possible there could have been a regular winners instead they minimal. What most casino or gambling site does is that they always makes it very difficult for people to win, I don't know if it their plans to manipulate games because from my little practice on game selection they ends up going the other way round.

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How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?
I don't believe that analyzing betting lines alone is sufficient for consistent success, but I think it can be a valuable starting point when combined with other analytical approaches and a strategic mindset. These betting lines provided by bookmakers are not based on complete information or every detail about a team or game, so they're not perfect. That's why I don't rely solely on betting lines; I still conduct my own statistical and qualitative analysis. However, even after doing these, the element of luck is still present.

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I don't believe that analyzing betting lines alone is sufficient for consistent success, but I think it can be a valuable starting point when combined with other analytical approaches and a strategic mindset. These betting lines provided by bookmakers are not based on complete information or every detail about a team or game, so they're not perfect. That's why I don't rely solely on betting lines; I still conduct my own statistical and qualitative analysis. However, even after doing these, the element of luck is still present.

Thanks for your comment, it's true, but these betting lines are the percentage of most gamblers, that's why bookies set that to ensure a betting on both sides. It may not be the only thing to consider for you but personally I can already make a decision without checking the stats by just looking at the betting lines, because I believe that Bookies are not missing any information that could give its bettors and advantage to result a betting on one side only, at least most of the bettors.

I guess we have our own srategy but I tell you, experience will tell us what to do to make our job easy.

If we consider these things.

1-betting against the public
2- possible fixed game

These aren't thought or can be seen through stats but it's important to be aware of these.

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In sports gambling, following analyses is great, until the game ends in a score contrary to our predictions. Some people follow a historical approach, but it's not 100% accurate. During the Arsenal and Luton town games, many people played Luton to win Arsenal, because they've read that, in the history of football, Arsenal never won Luton in Luton's home stadium. Along the line, it seemed like Luthon would win and they felt so happy, then in the last 1 minute Arsenal changed their predictions and they lost. The bookmakers also added more odds on Luton to win Arsenal. While it's good to analyze games, following the recent changes in the league is crucial. In the premier league for instance, instead of playing a particular team to win, it's better to bet on both teams to score. Or bet on more than 3 goals to be scored in the match.

Because smaller teams with low chances of winning, can defeat a big team with all the possible facilities needed to win; fit players and many consecutive wins. If you watched the Luton game, you'd notice that Arsenal almost lost the game. And the same thing had a tough time with Liverpool. Who would ever believe that Luton town would be a turn in the flesh of Arsenal fans and players that day? Analyses work but don't play a particular team to win another. Play based on the results you noticed within the past few games. Premier League games are easier to predict regarding goals predictions; goals, 4 goals to be scored, etc, but more difficult when we predict a particular team to win. Unless you won't watch the game, it makes me uncomfortable.

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