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December 25, 2023, 05:32:36 PM
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The moment you give AI the information to process, it already becomes outdated or old. You can create multiple strategies using multiple data but applying that strategy to trading in order to make the right decision can never be that much accurate. The moment you dive into crypto trading, there is no escape. You keep on going down. And the phase becomes harder and harder. In order for an AI to fully operate on its own will take a lot of work and in the end it may not be 100% accurate.

I get the idea of everyone using AI bots for trading and then it will become a race between machines. The one who can create the fastest one will be on top. It will become machine versus machine war. The one who can calculate it faster will win the race. But for that to happen it will take a lot of time. We are still not there yet.
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December 25, 2023, 05:47:47 PM
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ai trading is an ai or algorithm design themselves when to enter and trade and exit a trade, which may do not require supervision.
and other is bot trading where we write or code a both where the bot will enter a trade when some conditions will meet, bot doesn't take decision by thinking there own,
like when 50 MA crossed 200MA then the bot will take without thinking much about it. so bot needs supervision if the signal is not so strong.
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December 25, 2023, 09:17:55 PM
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An artificial intelligence is not something someone can depend on in terms of trading, so it's good for traders to trade without using an artificial intelligence because normal trading will make you to have comfort more than artificial intelligence, secondly, an artificial intelligence is a programmed machine that can disappoint at any point in time, so therefore I believe that people who using AI will not make larger profit in trading like someone using manual kind of trading.


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December 26, 2023, 12:51:07 AM
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They need a lot of human supervision because trading today is becoming more complicated and expensive especially using all this third-party network, swapping network, for example: when you want to swap a particular AI coin or tokens, they will show you the transaction fee but by the time you complete the transaction you will see that they charge more than they show you.
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December 26, 2023, 04:54:34 AM
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ai trading is an ai or algorithm design themselves when to enter and trade and exit a trade, which may do not require supervision.
and other is bot trading where we write or code a both where the bot will enter a trade when some conditions will meet, bot doesn't take decision by thinking there own,
like when 50 MA crossed 200MA then the bot will take without thinking much about it. so bot needs supervision if the signal is not so strong.
That is why I think we should consider the possibility that we could make some sort of profit when the time is right, I believe that we are going to end up with some great returns if we could just focus on ourselves and not the AI or bots. I understand that some people make it their entire thing to use the highest technology that is available to make the most money because they think it will make them money, but that is just not true.

Computer was the highest form of technology for a while, did every single person who used PC made money? Of course not, that is not really the case at all times, we should consider the situation to be a bit different and we need to make sure that things could get a lot better if we do it ourselves. I personally do not like using even copy trading, I just prefer trading myself and learn how to do it myself, if I can do it then it would be a lot better for me in the future and that is what matters, we need to keep that logic going.

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December 26, 2023, 06:48:32 PM
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ai trading is an ai or algorithm design themselves when to enter and trade and exit a trade, which may do not require supervision.
and other is bot trading where we write or code a both where the bot will enter a trade when some conditions will meet, bot doesn't take decision by thinking there own,
like when 50 MA crossed 200MA then the bot will take without thinking much about it. so bot needs supervision if the signal is not so strong.
That is why I think we should consider the possibility that we could make some sort of profit when the time is right, I believe that we are going to end up with some great returns if we could just focus on ourselves and not the AI or bots. I understand that some people make it their entire thing to use the highest technology that is available to make the most money because they think it will make them money, but that is just not true.

Computer was the highest form of technology for a while, did every single person who used PC made money? Of course not, that is not really the case at all times, we should consider the situation to be a bit different and we need to make sure that things could get a lot better if we do it ourselves. I personally do not like using even copy trading, I just prefer trading myself and learn how to do it myself, if I can do it then it would be a lot better for me in the future and that is what matters, we need to keep that logic going.
I think it is not the same example, I mean PC was just PC, you used it personally and I am sure that the earliest users did made some money, yes 20-30 years later AI may become something common enough that everyone would use it, but right now, AI is at a point where we could consider it similar to "some few companies and few rich people have it" era of computers, nowadays we all have one in our pockets, it's not similar.

I am not saying AI trading will make you rich, it may not make you rich, that's true, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a trouble, it has to be something that will end up being a bit more important to just learn how to use it for later purposes, even if you do not trust it, doesn't hurt to learn it.

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December 27, 2023, 01:02:20 AM
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An artificial intelligence is not something someone can depend on in terms of trading, so it's good for traders to trade without using an artificial intelligence because normal trading will make you to have comfort more than artificial intelligence, secondly, an artificial intelligence is a programmed machine that can disappoint at any point in time, so therefore I believe that people who using AI will not make larger profit in trading like someone using manual kind of trading.
i think AI should only be supervised at early time where there is not necessarily enough data for AI to act on its own but later on it can go full automatic with all the data and parameter supplied with AI.
the thing is that currently AI is so heavily untested for trading we don't know in a year how much profit or loss the AI gonna have also along the way we can add more and more data to the AI so that it gets smarter.
the only hurdle with AI nowaday is the non deterministic result of the outcome we can be giving the same input and sometime its not gonna give the same expected output but the important thing with trading is that the AI can understand the pattern and acts upon it based on past data, its basically just the same as how human operate i believe eventually we will see AI capable of trading im sure many are still in development till these days.
for any that don't believe AI to be capable of trading on its own, you'll be surprised because it can eventually, same thing like how people underestimate ai capability to draw and create song.

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March 26, 2024, 03:06:59 PM
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If its full on AI I think it should need much human attention. But AI cant predict the future it works on past movements.
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March 28, 2024, 04:42:03 PM
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I think it's more about training than anything else, and if you really believe that you could train an AI to be a perfect trader then yeah there won't be any help needed afterwards, you could still make it understand what is making a loss and what is making a profit and learn from its mistakes and so forth, that's why it matters a lot. I think it should be the most important thing, and we could probably be happy about it if it learns from each move as well.

So, combined your training and also the experience it gets, and that would be something nice. I get that sometimes it is not going to be all that easy to handle, but that's what we are here to do and should be something that we could probably consider as a good income.
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