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December 12, 2023, 03:39:38 PM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

If that is the case, then both of them should quit.

Parents have the natural obligation of supporting their family financially. If they cannot fulfill this natural obligation to the point that it impairs their livelihood and financials, then both of them should not have married in the first place. They have now the responsibility of having all the necessary financials as security in the event of an emergency. If their gambling addiction/habits affect their relationship with their family, then this will pose a potential problem for them in the future.

In conclusion, both of them should avoid gambling for the betterment of their financials. But, if they can allocate a certain budget for this habit to the point that it is the money that they can lose and they have the extra money for emergency purposes, then they can continue such habit provided that it should not be destructive to the family's expenses.

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December 12, 2023, 04:42:09 PM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

At first, this situation should be what both couples should have discussed before getting married. It is alright they both gambled responsibly and should also be ready to give it up when children starts coming.

I would prefer that the woman quits gambling because she spends much time with the kids and to cut down cost in gambling budget. The both of them can not do that at the same time even if they both depend on gambling wins to survive, it is risky because out of desperation, one of them or both of them can end up using funds meant for house up keep when it gets to that point. 

As a matter of fact, it is ideal that both couples quit when they start parenting. They both could draft out a quit plan for themselves which they could gradually hid to. Since they are two, the plan could be effective because they both would need each other as a reminder and that consciousness would be there that the are quitting gambling as a result of their family.

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December 12, 2023, 04:47:27 PM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

People that have a compulsion or have form a habit should probably take a step back. The saying "everything in moderation" should apply to all parts of your life, especially with the vices. It can become a very expensive habit very quickly and depending on your game it can be devastating. If you are playing a game which is weighted against you, like most casino games, then the longer you play the more detrimental it will be to your finances and you may end up chasing them in a downward spiral for a long time. Better to abstain from it entirely if you wish to quit, rather than trying to reduce.

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December 12, 2023, 05:57:13 PM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
I believe that there are different sets of gamblers inside the gambling world, if the both couples are not an addicted gamblers they and they gamble ones in a month or twice in a whole month that means they should continue like that.
But if the both of them are active gamblers that are well addicted to gamble that means the both of them should stop gambling if only they can not control their gambling habits or nature.
Although, the woman should not gamble as her husband is already a gambler, why I said this is because a day might come when the woman might use money for bills to gamble (and you know what will be the end of it), and still, gamblers easily get addicted to gamble mostly when he or she is also with another gambler, but a gambler might control the love of gamble that he or she have when he's with someone who is not or doesn't like gamblers

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December 12, 2023, 10:35:47 PM
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As a matter of fact, it is ideal that both couples quit when they start parenting. They both could draft out a quit plan for themselves which they could gradually hid to. Since they are two, the plan could be effective because they both would need each other as a reminder and that consciousness would be there that the are quitting gambling as a result of their family.
It's better for them, husband and wife because if they were parents, they would definitely be busier with their children. By stopping gambling, they will have more time to take care of their children, and that is not only a job for the wife but also a job for the husband. Even though her husband works, it is not a problem because the children are their children to whom their parents must give attention. By stopping gambling, this will give them the awareness that taking care of children is much more valuable than just gambling. It's not a matter of who should stop but rather responsibility, and that lies with the husband and wife and not just one of them.

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December 12, 2023, 10:54:00 PM
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In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

They should run a monthly contest, whoever is less profitable must quit.
But seriously, are we talking about some gambling addiction here? If excessive gambling is disrupting their lives, both should quit obviously. It's unlikely any of them is making a profit, so it's just ruining a family for the chase of dopamine — a deplorable picture.

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December 12, 2023, 11:07:23 PM
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In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

Case-to-case basis. The answer depends on how responsible they are even while being both gamblers.

Case A: If they are gambling for long but outside gambling, they do their responsibilities properly, I don't see any reason why should they quit.

Case B: Let's say they are worse to the point that now reaching a financial crisis because of gambling, someone or somebody should step into these families and help them. The reason why they should be helped by others is, these gamblers won't stop doing gambling as they are now fall on the gambling trap.
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December 13, 2023, 01:30:29 AM
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In my personal opinion, it's yourself or the man's side. The husband is the leader of the family, and he is obliged to set an example with good decisions. Husbands have a big responsibility in managing and guiding their wife's children in a better direction, such as managing finances and other important matters. However, it would be good if they both started to reduce the intensity of their gambling.
You are right that everything depends on the man as the husband who is also the head of the family and is clearly responsible for managing all forms of finances as well as providing education and direction to all family members consisting of wife and children.
But in this case, it is about husband and wife who both like to gamble, so the solution being fully placed on the husband alone will not be able to resolve it and will only cause disputes.
But your last sentence is indeed true and they both must be able to start reducing the intensity of their respective gambling slowly so that in the future there will be changes for the better and they can become family that is protected from all the bad effects of gambling.
Occasionally for fun it fine, but if both of them really gamble often then it could cause serious problems in the future.

Everything starts with joint action which will result in easier success in eliminating gambling activities for each of them.

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December 13, 2023, 02:38:57 AM
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When it reaches the point where the husband and wife are actively gambling, it will have a huge negative effect on the family. Households no longer have balance, family finances begin to shrink and children begin to lack attention and affection from their parents. The gambling habit of a husband/wife is the beginning of the destruction of a family, their selfishness can cause their children to become depressed and their intelligence level begins to be hampered. They have to set restrictions on gambling simultaneously in order to maintain family finances and have more time with their children.

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December 13, 2023, 04:34:51 AM
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As a matter of fact, it is ideal that both couples quit when they start parenting. They both could draft out a quit plan for themselves which they could gradually hid to. Since they are two, the plan could be effective because they both would need each other as a reminder and that consciousness would be there that the are quitting gambling as a result of their family.
It's better for them, husband and wife because if they were parents, they would definitely be busier with their children. By stopping gambling, they will have more time to take care of their children, and that is not only a job for the wife but also a job for the husband. Even though her husband works, it is not a problem because the children are their children to whom their parents must give attention. By stopping gambling, this will give them the awareness that taking care of children is much more valuable than just gambling. It's not a matter of who should stop but rather responsibility, and that lies with the husband and wife and not just one of them.
in this scenario it makes more sense than what the OP said, the husband and wife are gambling, but looking at the OP story, it seems like the husband and wife dont have children yet, so they spend their time as they please just gambling and this will have a bad impact in the long term and is completely me supports your argument about it being better to immediately become a parent for your children, which means it is better to stop gambling and start planning to build a harmonious household with small children in the house so that fun or happiness will come from your children, not from gambling anymore.

I realize that maybe the husband and wife who gamble spend a lot of money on gambling, they only keep themselves busy looking for fun so they just need something else that can give them other happiness to stop gambling activities and the presence of children in the family will be able to change everything but all that It depends on a husband mindset whether he has a goal of living with his partner happily together without gambling and if the husband realizes this he will start to stop gambling and force his wife to stop immediately and plan future goals to build a more dynamic household and thinking about her child's future.

whatever happens if a couple gambles, it seems like it will be very difficult if the wife has to start early because the husband is the head of the household so whatever happens it is the husband who must be able to set the best example for his family.

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December 13, 2023, 04:58:48 AM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
Initially, women are created to be home builders, pillars of the family and the people meant to take care of the basic domestic work & children at home, and as such, it will be very bad for someone who is meant to be a builder, pillar and carer of the family to little or no chance for the family due to gambling. This scenario is far different from if had both parties been employed whereby the wife's salary is 3 times the salary of her husband's, the you asked who should resign, then everybody would have said let the husband resigned, since the wife earns more than 3 times his salary. But in this case where both are mere gamblers, it's nice if the wife gives up. (But if she is a very good sport betting analyst, then she could be analysing games for his husband).
wow this is getting more interesting I love this perspective of yours  but before I build on it I'll like to correct the perception of men now still having that mentality of women being house keepers and care givers of the children of the home only, in today's world the man can always come in, like in modern society it's like a 50-50 responsibility of the home-care between the man and woman. 
Yes, it's true that when it comes to the western world, the duty in the family is been shared 50/50 among both parties, but yet that still doesn't disprove the fact that out out every 100 families, we can not argue the fact that women does the major domestic jobs, and probably take care of the children at home, both in the Eastern, Southern and Northern regions, which is a more reason why women should give up gambling to men in this scenario of yours, because according to the creation story in the Bible, we are meant to understand that women are meant to support and not act as the sole bread winner of the family when the man is still vibrant and active.

(i.e women does the work of a supporter).


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Now on the gambling side, I'll have agreed with you to an extent that the woman should quit for the man because both aren't working for the time being but if she's the one very good at it with a creative analytical knowledge on the activity why not she just continue and the husband who's less good quit for her, rather than she now assisting him to analyze games before he plays them. Isn't it as same thing as both of them gambling still?
Yes, inasmuch as a woman trying to assist is still an involvement in gambling, but yet it still can't be compared with when she comes into gambling full time, as by assisting, she is likely to have more time to take care of the children and other domestic or work related stuff.

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December 13, 2023, 05:01:48 AM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

People that have a compulsion or have form a habit should probably take a step back. The saying "everything in moderation" should apply to all parts of your life, especially with the vices. It can become a very expensive habit very quickly and depending on your game it can be devastating. If you are playing a game which is weighted against you, like most casino games, then the longer you play the more detrimental it will be to your finances and you may end up chasing them in a downward spiral for a long time. Better to abstain from it entirely if you wish to quit, rather than trying to reduce.
Correct. Reducing could just end up worse. Or, maybe switching to sports gambling will be an optional course. That way a gambler won't be continually betting unlike how it is with casino games.
I've seen a friend who got addicted to slots and while it is our rest to drink beers and talk about life, he is just in the corner not talking at all, just playing his game on his smartphone. It's sad to see people ending up like that and we tried to make him pause but it doesn't work.
What more if both parents are doing this? I think it will become a family that doesn't even talk about their lives anymore because they are too inclined with their gambling habits. They may not be gambling addicts but still, it could ruin a family because there's no more focus on how a family should be. Even the kids might get affected by this kind of environment. It is not healthy.

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December 13, 2023, 05:53:37 AM
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It's better for them, husband and wife because if they were parents, they would definitely be busier with their children. By stopping gambling, they will have more time to take care of their children, and that is not only a job for the wife but also a job for the husband. Even though her husband works, it is not a problem because the children are their children to whom their parents must give attention. By stopping gambling, this will give them the awareness that taking care of children is much more valuable than just gambling. It's not a matter of who should stop but rather responsibility, and that lies with the husband and wife and not just one of them.
Every parent will certainly set themselves as an example for their children, so it would be better for them to set a good example for their children about good things, if they as parents carry out bad habits it will certainly make their children imitate those things of course. We as parents will not want this, so it would be more important to eliminate these habits so that their children do not copy the bad habits of their parents.
Raising our own children will certainly make us know more about our development so it would be better to stop gambling and take care of the family we have because this is a responsibility for both husband and wife.

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December 13, 2023, 08:24:48 AM
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In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

Both parents aren't supposed to be gamblers as that can be dangerous due to the problem of addiction that is linked with gambling and when both parents become addict, it'll put the family at a risk of divorce. Technically one is meant to quit but who'll be willing to give up their hobby for the other, the person that quit meant feel bad when the other person is enjoying him or her self and if it's the hundred that didn't quit but he isn't bring enough money to the house that'll be a problem.

If both parents can manage their gambling perfectly and it won't interfere with their family time or make them to use family funds for their personal interest, both of them can continue gambling. It's all about understanding and planning for a family to work therefore both parents has to go for therapy and a professional will examine both of them to give them a suggestion if they'll both quit, or one party to quit also if they both can keep gambling as there's no bad effect.

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December 13, 2023, 08:58:19 AM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

A strange question for a crypto forum, I would consider this topic suitable for forums about relationships or the like.

Firstly, here you can replace gambling with anything: any hobby, even any job that requires attention more than 8 hours a day, business, building a career, etc. Both spouses can do this (even at this stage, serious time management and separation of priorities are already necessary) and when children appear, they again must find a balance between all activities since there are only 24 hours in a day and you cannot help but pay attention to children, which means a waste time for certain activities should be reduced.

Secondly, these are purely personal issues and there cannot be universal advice here. In some couples, the husband may give up his hobby/career for the sake of his wife, or vice versa, in some couples one of the spouses would rather get divorced than give up his job/hobby. All options are normal if two people agreed in this way (even if it’s a divorce haha). There are many relationships that suit those who are in them, but for example they would not suit you, but what difference does it make if you look at it from the outside? There's nothing to discuss here.

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December 13, 2023, 11:15:49 AM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

A strange question for a crypto forum, I would consider this topic suitable for forums about relationships or the like.

Firstly, here you can replace gambling with anything: any hobby, even any job that requires attention more than 8 hours a day, business, building a career, etc. Both spouses can do this (even at this stage, serious time management and separation of priorities are already necessary) and when children appear, they again must find a balance between all activities since there are only 24 hours in a day and you cannot help but pay attention to children, which means a waste time for certain activities should be reduced.

Secondly, these are purely personal issues and there cannot be universal advice here. In some couples, the husband may give up his hobby/career for the sake of his wife, or vice versa, in some couples one of the spouses would rather get divorced than give up his job/hobby. All options are normal if two people agreed in this way (even if it’s a divorce haha). There are many relationships that suit those who are in them, but for example they would not suit you, but what difference does it make if you look at it from the outside? There's nothing to discuss here.
Indeed, balancing life's elements, be it gambling, career, or hobbies, is a personal journey, riddled with complexities. But to say that the conversation has nothing to do with a crypto forum isnt taking into account how complicated the link between money and relationships can be. gambling, especially when it comes to cryptocurrency, isnt just a pleasure; its an exciting activity that often blurs the line between smart risk-taking and careless abandon.

Here's an idea: a crypto enthusiast who is very interested in trade is having trouble with a relationship. Whats the matter? Not only is it about allocating time, but also about values and how much danger someone is willing to take. People lose more than just time when they get involved in high-stakes gambling. They lose confidence, stability, and often peace of mind as well. In relationships, people naturally want safety, which is very different from gambling, where things can change quickly. So, while you say "theres nothing to discuss," I disagree. The area where financial risks and peaceful relationships meet is a maze that needs to be explored, especially in a place where financial risks are commonplace.

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December 13, 2023, 11:49:07 AM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
In this case, it was good for the wife to stop gambling as it was not good to see especially if they had kids already at least one of the family would take responsibility for handling the kids. Time and family bonding are very important because if both are gambling, the impact on their relationship is not good. Even if the father/husband left gambling, he should still manage to spend less time gambling as this will help to have a strong bond and family communication which is very important.

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December 13, 2023, 12:21:55 PM
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When it reaches the point where the husband and wife are actively gambling, it will have a huge negative effect on the family. Households no longer have balance, family finances begin to shrink and children begin to lack attention and affection from their parents. The gambling habit of a husband/wife is the beginning of the destruction of a family, their selfishness can cause their children to become depressed and their intelligence level begins to be hampered. They have to set restrictions on gambling simultaneously in order to maintain family finances and have more time with their children.

I have a friend who had a similar experience where everyone in his family was addicted to gambling, they were playing all day and didn't really care about the consequences of their actions and surely some of them got in trouble for the same reasons and now are in jails without getting any chance of parole. Because of gambling, they became greedy thieves and they are taking it a little bit too far by entering the houses of their victims and getting everything inside as much as possible just to fund their addictions, but drugs also have some contributions to their actions because they pair it with their addictions to gambling that eventually lead them to get in jail.

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December 13, 2023, 12:40:56 PM
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In a situation, when both partners gamble, and rises a question whether one of partners should quit, I think it would be better to find a compromise. Finding compromises, adopt to your partners needs and wishes is the perfect solution for healthy relationship. Gambling should not be the thing that will destroy relationships and families. Couple can gamble simultaneously, they can have gambling shifts, they can gamble different games, they can share duties. I think no one should quit, or quit only as an act of sacrifice. Because the person who quit, can later blame the person who has left for losses for example.

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December 13, 2023, 01:08:05 PM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
If both husband and wife are gamblers in a family, it takes a very bad shape.  If they are lucky then they can win a lot of money otherwise their family will be completely destroyed. Because gambling is a very bad thing here no one gets any guarantee of winning and it depends a lot on luck so in this case both husband and wife should give up gambling. Because both are addicted to gambling, if one quits gambling and the other continues to gamble, seeing that he will fall back into gambling.  So in this case just giving up one's gambling will not be a solution. The solution requires both to give up gambling



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