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December 14, 2023, 11:40:11 AM
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As you've noticed, most of gamblers are men than woman because

That is because women are busy at the kitchen.

Well, I wouldn't say it's completely untrue that women tend to do more housework, even today.  But that statement is still an old-fashioned stereotype and pretty sexist too.  Nowadays in most Western relationships the partners divvy up the chores evenly - it's not just one person's domain anymore. So yeah, that whole women do housework idea belongs back in the 1950s as far as I'm concerned.

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December 14, 2023, 11:51:23 AM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
There's nothing wrong when both husbands and wifes is a gambler. As long as they they their priorities in life, like their children and bringing food in the table, I think it will be good and gambling won't affect their relationships.

Of course, it's better if they are going to quit gambling if their kids are growing up. But they could still continue with their gambling and just minimized it. Sort of to meet in the middle grounds and so everything should be done in moderation.
Yes, everything will be fine when they can prioritize their life over their gambling. But the problem is that not many can do it and not many can control themselves while gambling. Many people become deeper into gambling so it is difficult to quit gambling or reduce their gambling activities. And if this happens in a family where the husband and wife gamble, it can worsen the situation in the family.

If they can stop gambling and prioritize their family, they can use their time to pay attention to and educate their children. Even though they are busy with their families, they can still gamble but with limits so they don't gamble excessively. But whoever has to stop gambling, they should discuss it first and it would be even better if both husband and wife stop gambling so they can focus on taking care of their household and children.

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December 14, 2023, 12:01:07 PM
 #183

Of course, if husband and wife stop gambling then it is a good decision, not who will stop first, but both are making changes for the better, spending time with family is much more valuable than time spent on gambling, besides that if the family doesn't gamble then their children will have a bright future. Sometimes if their parents gamble, the children will judge their parents badly and one day the children will imitate what their parents did, so it's better to prevent things like that if they stop gambling then the Children will not be familiar with gambling and as a parent you can certainly provide education to your children when they grow up telling them about the bad experiences of gambling so that they do not follow in their parents' footsteps.

And yes, if they don't gamble, the funds they should use for gambling can be used for other more useful things, such as supplementing the child's needs and can be used to invest in the child's future.

You are right mate. Parents are the first role model to their children. So in that case, whatever the children see their parents doing is what they imitate and since their parents do that, they feel it is the right thing and they keep up with it till it becomes a habit to them.

This made me remember a family friend who gambles. He started gambling at his youthful age and is still gambling till this moment.  It is so bad that he could not control it and it affected his family including his children. I believe he never thought of it while getting married, his wife wasn't able to stop him till this moment. He has sold lots  of his properties and currently doing more. It is obvious that this is more than we could imagine.

If the both couples should have a thought over it and take a decision to stop gambling that would be in the interest of their kids as well because the gambling lifestyle would not affect their family and their kids would not have any thing to do with gambling as they know their parents do not gamble because before they were born in their parents already stopped gambling which both couples agreed before they started welcoming their kids.
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December 14, 2023, 12:09:13 PM
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Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
The best option is both of them stopping their gambling hobby. They could use the funds they use to finance the expenses of their family needs and wants.
If not, surely, 1 of them quitting will be beneficial to their finance management as there will be someone who will sort it properly.
Another case is for the both of them, just lessen the gambling activity, have attention to what they need to do, be responsible, and be disciplined.

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December 14, 2023, 02:01:46 PM
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The best option is both of them stopping their gambling hobby. They could use the funds they use to finance the expenses of their family needs and wants.

This is a good option as stopping will be the best decision so both can focus their attention on looking for a new job to supposed the family. If they were depending on gambling to take care of the family expenses which is already wrong as gambling isn't a source of income due to it not been a constant source of income. They can now look for other things to do, I'll recommend getting a paying job so they have money to take care of their family.

Gambling can destroy a family, families depending on gambling amd still stay happy are very few as the emotions of the parent gambling will always be determined by how good he or she does for the day, when he or she is betting which won't be always good as a gambler, loses more than you win due to the house always having the advantage. When one parents quits the other would be jealous and this can also spoil their relationship therefore both quitting is good option.

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December 14, 2023, 03:49:51 PM
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Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
The best option is both of them stopping their gambling hobby. They could use the funds they use to finance the expenses of their family needs and wants.
If not, surely, 1 of them quitting will be beneficial to their finance management as there will be someone who will sort it properly.
Another case is for the both of them, just lessen the gambling activity, have attention to what they need to do, be responsible, and be disciplined.

You are right, they should quit their addiction, also the funds that are usually used for gambling can be used to help their basic needs of life and that is more useful. quitting gambling can make them better financially, when the money that is usually used for gambling I think they can save it to see the results within a year, the results will be seen from every time he wants to gamble but he saves it, it is not a bad thing, but they must be able to fight the urge to gamble.

I think it is difficult to fight or resist  the urge to gamble but if with full confidence I think they can do it, because this is also for their own good. so there is no harm and no loss for them to stop gambling addiction. by doing many things that can close the urge to gamble in order to reduce gambling activities and take full responsibility for what has been chosen, then it must be completed as well as possible.

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December 14, 2023, 05:04:38 PM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

I don't think it has been discussed before, if this happens to us this is going to be a hard question for me as my wife always has the last say when it comes to finances  Cheesy but it's better for us to just alternate playing, even if I want my wife to quit we will quarrel about this so why not just play alternately, she will have a whole week playing, and after a week it's my turn to play.
Of course, the money should be allocated so the rule is no additional funds, both of us should be content with the allocation


If a couple can agree on something then there's no way that it won't work in their family, all they need do is discuss about it and reach an agreement that'll be favorable to both of them. The most important thing in this situation is to have a weekly or monthly budget for gambling, and as you suggested, they can alternate the gambling, one gambles for one week and the other gambles the next week. Even better if they can have the chance and gamble together, but they must be disciplined not to exceed their gambling budget.

The most important aspect for a gambling couple must be that they're gambling for fun only, never as a source of income, because it'll certainly not end well if they experience loses for a whole week or month, who'll take care of their responsibilities.

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December 14, 2023, 07:41:41 PM
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Redirecting time and money from gambling to family is powerful. Glitz and glamour sometimes hide the risks of entertainment gambling, including financial hardship, conflict between individuals, and the subtle but substantial influence on children. Lost minutes may have been spent making memories, not simply money. Family dynamics are changing, right? Parents who prioritise family over gambling send the message: "You matter more than any fleeting joy."

Saving money from gambling can pay college, extracurriculars, or a family vacation for the kids. The investment in a solid, secure family environment is more crucial. We're precedent-setting, right? The kids learn that happiness comes from a loving home, not luck. The lesson is worth more than the jackpot!
Undoubtedly, redirecting time and money from gambling to family is a powerful and positive decision. Beyond the glitz and glamour, entertainment gambling can indeed pose risks, including financial challenges and potential conflicts within relationships. The behavior of parents has big influence on children, even if subtle, is significant that can shape their understanding of priorities and values.

People send a clear and meaningful message by choosing to prioritize family over gambling, because It communicates that the existance and happiness of loved ones matter more than the joys or potential gains from gambling. The moments spent with family are irreplaceable. Building memories with the loved ones is much much beter than memories in gambling. This conscious decision to put family first becomes even more impactful in a changing landscape of family dynamics.

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December 14, 2023, 09:07:02 PM
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In my personal opinion, it's yourself or the man's side. The husband is the leader of the family, and he is obliged to set an example with good decisions. Husbands have a big responsibility in managing and guiding their wife's children in a better direction, such as managing finances and other important matters. However, it would be good if they both started to reduce the intensity of their gambling.

I highly agree, if the couple talk about quitting gamble, they should quit altogether to have a noticeable changes on their financial flow.  If one only quit, then the fund used in the other half's gambling can sure be use for the gambling activity of the other half.  Quitting all together can significantly remove the pressure of their financial status especially when the reason for quitting is due to insufficient fund for their family's daily needs.
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December 14, 2023, 09:47:35 PM
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In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.
why would anyone wanna stick to gambling especially when they've got kids that'll definably copy them as role models...? Personally,I think there are supposed to be restrictions to whatever a parent would do in Thier kid's presence.. if not, you shouldn't blame them for adopting any attitude in the nearest future.. secondly, a woman wouldn't gamble excessively like a man would do..
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Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
To me, I'd say it's not necessary for anyone to quit... It all depends on the net income that's made through the family's resourcefulness..

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December 15, 2023, 01:45:24 AM
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Of course, if husband and wife stop gambling then it is a good decision, not who will stop first, but both are making changes for the better, spending time with family is much more valuable than time spent on gambling, besides that if the family doesn't gamble then their children will have a bright future. Sometimes if their parents gamble, the children will judge their parents badly and one day the children will imitate what their parents did, so it's better to prevent things like that if they stop gambling then the Children will not be familiar with gambling and as a parent you can certainly provide education to your children when they grow up telling them about the bad experiences of gambling so that they do not follow in their parents' footsteps.

And yes, if they don't gamble, the funds they should use for gambling can be used for other more useful things, such as supplementing the child's needs and can be used to invest in the child's future.

You are right mate. Parents are the first role model to their children. So in that case, whatever the children see their parents doing is what they imitate and since their parents do that, they feel it is the right thing and they keep up with it till it becomes a habit to them.

This made me remember a family friend who gambles. He started gambling at his youthful age and is still gambling till this moment.  It is so bad that he could not control it and it affected his family including his children. I believe he never thought of it while getting married, his wife wasn't able to stop him till this moment. He has sold lots  of his properties and currently doing more. It is obvious that this is more than we could imagine.

If the both couples should have a thought over it and take a decision to stop gambling that would be in the interest of their kids as well because the gambling lifestyle would not affect their family and their kids would not have any thing to do with gambling as they know their parents do not gamble because before they were born in their parents already stopped gambling which both couples agreed before they started welcoming their kids.
Parents indeed an example for their children. Of course, as parents, they have to do more positive activities so that their children also do the same and don't behave badly. Children definitely always want to know what their parents are doing, such as playing on cellphones, playing games, of course their children do too. imitate it and also want to do it. It is true that children cannot access gambling, but at least one day they will be able to understand that their parents gamble so that they assume that gambling is an activity that is supported by their family so that one day they will gamble the same way their parents do.

Now, from this story, we can learn that if gambling at a young age will result in gambling addiction because those who have no gambling experience will easily fall into gambling. With your friend's story it will certainly make you think that gambling will result in significant financial losses, especially if you are already have responsibilities as parents where life's needs must be met. If you use it for gambling, this can cause your household to become a mess and it is not uncommon for many divorces to occur because of economic problems and these problems are the result of one of them being a husband and wife gambling.

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December 15, 2023, 03:07:31 AM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
I see a big problem in this post in the aspect that they may be gambling beyond their limit if it actually get to the point where one of them need to quit due to financial constraint. In a situation like this, both of them need to quit and work on their finances first to ensure the family have stable income.

Secondly, gambling does not require so much time that it has to impact on their obligations in the family unless they are battling with addiction which will make them spend all day in gambling. This too is an error that have to be address.

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December 15, 2023, 07:16:37 AM
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By learning to be parents, they can learn to be more responsible in taking care of their household, especially if they soon have children. With the presence of their children, they will make long-term plans to prepare their children to become good people. If they don't stop gambling immediately, there will definitely be problems between them because we know that someone who has been gambling for a long time tends to become a gambling addict. This is very dangerous for them because they may already be gambling addicts that they may not realize.

Married couples who gamble must be able to stop their gambling activities as quickly as possible before things get bad and they cannot stop. They also don't need to gamble to get pleasure because when they have children, there will be other pleasures that cannot be described. That's what they have to realize so that they can both stop their gambling activities. No matter how difficult it is, they have to keep trying, and if they don't have children, they can change their mindset to get pleasure from gambling because if they can get pleasure from their family, it will be more useful. At least family relationships will be more harmonious, and there will be emotional closeness between husband, wife, and children.

That's why both of them should decide to stop their gambling activities immediately, and it's not just the husband or wife who stops gambling but both of them. That could give them the opportunity to change things for the better. And if they are going to have children, they can focus more on educating their children.
addiction is always a nightmare for gamblers who fail to control themselves, but in this scenario it seems like your opinion also makes sense, immediately learn to be a good parent or plan to have children soon so that all these activities are immediately stopped because in the long term if this often happens, it will have a bad impact, not only addiction, but divorce can occur because an addict's emotional state is very high and one of the best ways is to immediately start planning to have a child, but all of this requires awareness. before having children, you must have thoughts that are far from gambling.

plan to stop immediately, maybe both of them should do it, but if neither of them starts early, there will certainly be no effort to stop gambling and I say it is better for the husband as the head of the household to have awareness early so that what he says makes his wife obey. what her husband wants is to avoid gambling and then plan a pregnancy program to have offspring and focus on educating his child in the future.

this problem is indeed a bit complicated and maybe it would be very easy for us to say something like this, but if it actually happened to us, we would definitely have difficulty in avoiding gambling because both of them both like gambling and I think when they are comfortable with gambling, feelings of selfishness will appear more high and it is difficult to stop unless something very serious happens and forces these two people to stop immediately.
and definitely dont let this happen when the husband gambles and the wife also gambles and this will ruin the future of the household.

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December 15, 2023, 11:20:32 AM
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Well, if we are being totally honest, we should all quit, every single human in the world should quit, there should be no more gambling at all. Obviously we won't, and obviously we would always find a way, even if it means wagering amongst friends only, we would always keep on betting and it would never end, but we should definitely consider that if we can, that would be the good thing. We need to realize that life is not all that simple and we need to arrange something that will get a lot better over time.

I believe that we are going to end up with something that should be considered a little bit troublesome, and yes that is true that we are not going to end up with anything that would take some time, but we need to handle all the situation we can with this, and we need to arrange a situation that will benefit us the most in the end. I get that people may not end up with a situation that would take too long, but we need to let people do what they want to.

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December 15, 2023, 01:28:07 PM
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Well, if we are being totally honest, we should all quit, every single human in the world should quit, there should be no more gambling at all. Obviously we won't, and obviously we would always find a way, even if it means wagering amongst friends only, we would always keep on betting and it would never end, but we should definitely consider that if we can, that would be the good thing. We need to realize that life is not all that simple and we need to arrange something that will get a lot better over time.

I believe that we are going to end up with something that should be considered a little bit troublesome, and yes that is true that we are not going to end up with anything that would take some time, but we need to handle all the situation we can with this, and we need to arrange a situation that will benefit us the most in the end. I get that people may not end up with a situation that would take too long, but we need to let people do what they want to.
Yes, we're all dancing with gambling. Like a party, nobody wants to go although knowing they should. Humans love the thrill, unpredictability, and companionship of friendly wagers. Our stories and cultures incorporate it. Folkloric gambles are about the trip, thrill, and challenge, not just winning or losing.

Gambling is a double-edged sword; it does have risks. But lets not forget the enjoyable element that lights up our minds like Christmas trees. If we can channel our passion of gambling into more controlled, friendly, and responsible encounters, we may find the sweet spot. One with thrills but less hazards. Life's a gamble, right? Lets make it enjoyable.

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December 15, 2023, 01:31:15 PM
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Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
The best option is both of them stopping their gambling hobby. They could use the funds they use to finance the expenses of their family needs and wants.
If not, surely, 1 of them quitting will be beneficial to their finance management as there will be someone who will sort it properly.
Another case is for the both of them, just lessen the gambling activity, have attention to what they need to do, be responsible, and be disciplined.
Absolutely rightly said if one of the couple leaves the other for gambling then it will be the right decision to stop gambling. If uncontrolled gambling can affect mental health beyond the family. When gambling becomes a problem self-esteem can cause stress anxiety and depression. Gambling can become an addiction just like drugs or alcohol if you use it compulsively or feel out of control it's hard to discipline yourself. That is why it is better to think about the family and try to keep yourself under control. Have to find other ways of working other than gambling.

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December 15, 2023, 04:06:46 PM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
Actually it looks awkward seeing husband and wife gambling at the same time because you can imagine what there children may grow up to become because one of the things about children is that they can easily get use to something they heard either from parents or an outsider and before they realize they will start practicing it, but although there are some places that gambling in both genders are very comon so if it was that kind of places the only thing I will say is that it may not be a good idea asking either the wife or the husband to quit for the wife to gamble but perhaps the main question should be that how often does the husband and wife make a win in the gambling, so perhaps if they are always lucky in times of there wining I see no reason why one person should quit for another when they are actually benefiting a lot from gambling but if perhaps they are not consistent in wining that there over all losing is higher than there wining I would suggest they both quit the gambling and look a better job that will help there family instead of gambling with the little they have.

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December 15, 2023, 05:06:12 PM
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In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
This is a much more complicated situation where both of them are involved in gambling so that no one is able to control the finances, but I also want to know whether the two couples are active gamblers or they only carry out gambling activities with a budget that has been prepared so as not to disrupt cash flow to meet his living needs. It's rare to find two couples active at the same time in gambling and perhaps of the many people out in the world, only a small percentage carry out gambling activities simultaneously.

It's not a matter of talking about who should stop gambling, but rather that both of them need to think about their lives so they don't get trapped in increasingly serious financial problems. If both of them gamble irresponsibly then I am sure their finances will be in trouble and their daily living needs will be quite disturbed by gambling activities carried out irresponsibly.

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December 15, 2023, 06:57:34 PM
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In my personal opinion, it's yourself or the man's side. The husband is the leader of the family, and he is obliged to set an example with good decisions. Husbands have a big responsibility in managing and guiding their wife's children in a better direction, such as managing finances and other important matters. However, it would be good if they both started to reduce the intensity of their gambling.

I highly agree, if the couple talk about quitting gamble, they should quit altogether to have a noticeable changes on their financial flow.  If one only quit, then the fund used in the other half's gambling can sure be use for the gambling activity of the other half.  Quitting all together can significantly remove the pressure of their financial status especially when the reason for quitting is due to insufficient fund for their family's daily needs.

Whenever an activity threatens the goodness of the family it is something that should be considered leaving anything, that is why every time we have to make some sacrifices, those sacrifices always lead to something very good when done together, I have seen some things where the people or rather the couple, there is one in particular who is in a casino and grabs it like an addiction and when the crowd finds out, I can ask you to please stay away from that because of course, it affects the couple and the children. (if there are any) and that is a very delicate case, well for me the first thing is and always has been the family, well in the women who leave that aside and give themselves over to the game, which seems quite irresponsible to me, because at the moment you may be very comfortable in the game, but later? If he falls into an illness, who will see him? the casino? No, there are things that have always been for the better in couples because the other party that has the problem understands the problem, and corrects it.

Now, if the couple is both the ones who have the Addiction problem , then it is Difficult there , they should both go to a psychologist to be able to be well, to be able to have a better focus on things, I consider that when a person or a couple is like this and They cannot get ahead with a problem like this, help has to be their way out, there is no other option, it is the right Thing to do and it is what should be done, for me in anything that is addictive it must be attacked quickly, not quit. move forward because when we let it move forward things get worse, for that reason we must do everything possible to get out of the problem faster, it is easier to attack the addiction at the beginning than when it is already at an advanced level, that is why we always have to consider that the casino has its home advantage, and that it is practically impossible for one player or both to beat a casino, there are only moments of Luck.


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December 15, 2023, 09:10:34 PM
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

For this thread, I have to be wise as I also have a family. in essence, I'm not on the side of either one of them stopping. Femomena like this is not foreign to me personally, and I have seen many cases in the area where I live. Before I assume, I want to ask what your personal perspective is. No need to answer it, you can keep it to yourself. OK, now I'm speaking my version. So far, I like gambling. However, everything has been arranged, even my wife is involved and takes responsibility for my gambling. I mean, my wife always monitors what I do and I am happy to be open for her to monitor. what's the use, it's definitely useful. My wife will carry out her duties as a wife, which when I am involved is deeply affected by emotions of defeat and difficulty controlling myself. In other words, my wife will do her job as a system to regulate when I have to stop and she will let me, when I'm in the fun phase, provided there are no problems.

Let's imagine, what if both of them like gambling. are they rich people, who have a lot of wealth and don't feel lost when they always lose in their gambling sessions? If what we describe is the opposite, I do not guarantee that life in their family will be healthy. in other words, there will usually be a lot of conflict occurring. okay if they don't have children, especially if they both work. but the fact is the opposite, and only minimal financial income. what is the fate of this family, especially their children. to be honest. I don't dare or interfere in other families' personal problems. but if I am allowed to have an opinion, both should stop for the common good. because clearly it isn't, if what you say in this thread refers to a troubled family.  For me this is not healthy, it's not just the wife who has to stop. however, so does being the head of the household. the story is different, if this husband and wife are rich people. even then, the condition is that children must not know or even be involved.

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