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December 11, 2023, 07:30:20 PM
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He is a fool because after he has gone to report himself in the gambling commission, he is still trying to gamble, meaning that he can't leave his addiction without people forcing him to do that.

However, what he did was a good thing because he will definitely stop gambling out of his own will, and there is nothing he can do to go back to gambling, and this is why he haven't gambled for ten years now. He should give up and think of gambling no more so that if he finds himself in a different place where he can have access to gamble, he wouldn't gamble.

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December 11, 2023, 07:39:38 PM
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He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
Perhaps this is a very smart move on his part, if he understands that if he wins, he will still lose everything due to his addiction, then what is the point in this. And he found a way out of this situation for himself, the decision was of course strange, it was better to find the willpower in himself and stop playing after winning, but if he understood that he couldn’t do that, he added himself to the register of players (I didn’t suspect that such a thing existed ).

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December 11, 2023, 07:54:19 PM
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A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.
This part of the story makes no sense. If he is limited to winning big does that mean that he can control the result of the game? I know that if you want to win big, you stake big but there are also people who with their little wager, they still win big.

What the person in the story should have done instead was to put the self-exclusion such that his wager can't go past a certain limit. And that he can only stake on a game, that amount, once per week.

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December 11, 2023, 08:58:01 PM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Even though I don’t have any information about the situation mentioned by the person who experienced this, at least I understand that it is an effective method for this person and that it is useful for getting rid of gambling addiction. Although the process of getting rid of gambling addiction varies from person to person, this method seemed a little too illogical for me. Especially when I empathize, I think this;

Even though the big winning odds are low in gambling, there is always the possibility of getting a big win. For this reason, when we gamble we should gamble without focusing on the expectation of big win possibility but we should also be able to control ourselves in case this possibility occurs. So, although this possibility is very low, it doesn’t seem to me a logical idea to directly apply such a method to get rid of gambling addiction. If different methods have been tried before and these methods don’t provide a solution, using the mentioned method would be a more logical option.
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December 11, 2023, 09:02:03 PM
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Definitely a fool, if he already went to a gaming commission to have his name blacklisted or banned then shouldn't his gambling habits have stopped because he was banned or flagged whatever? But as the story goes on, this person can still get into these casinos and still play but only get a 200 USD win, man can still waste money and not be able to bring back a profit because he can't win big which is stupid, if you're not stopping from gambling even after you did those crazy request from the gaming commission then nothing changed because the money spent is still there and he's still gambling.

As long as it worked, does it matter?
I guess that way he could not gamble off large amounts of money at ones so don't look at it as a way to stop you from gambling alone, it's also a way to reduce hw you lose money while gambling. He won't be able to stake with large amounts or else his name would be flagged.
It's a pretty good strategy to me. It's like a way of regulating his gambling habit till he finally became from his gambling addiction.
A strategy that made a man who was so addicted to gamble to not step into a casino for 10 years is a good one.

What I don't understand is what would happen to the casino if they allowed him to gamble and not send him away. Does he has a right to sue them.

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December 11, 2023, 09:17:42 PM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

Many gamblers makes this mistake a lot of time, they have this mentality that anytime they something big, that's when their head gives the motivation that gambler is there way to wealth not understanding that they might have just be one of the lucky winners fur the and instead of them to try again the next day or continue to play carefully the way they have been, they recklessly played until they run into debt forever.

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He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

Gambling is addictive and can make him do what will harm him, I think his actions is valid so he doesn't sell hiss house like some gamblers does, sell properties and even take lain that will affect them later especially gamblers that love to use credit card to bet. But why are they going to do that to his earnings? The only thing they should responsible for for deposit and wager and not the earnings.

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He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Gambling is not difficult but if this stop him from gambling, then I will say his decision is great to him but I will not make dy u attempt. I will play and gamble like it's a normal daily routine.

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December 11, 2023, 09:41:41 PM
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He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

I don’t really know how true it is, I haven’t heard about it before, and I don’t know how possible it is to flag yourself that you can’t win big when gambling, there is nothing in my country like a gaming commission. Since I have not heard about things like this before, that does not mean it’s not possible, but it’s not in my country, it might be possible in some other countries. But to me, it doesn’t make any sense. Why will you flag your name? Won’t you feel bad after winning big and discovering that you can’t access the money and you are the cause?

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I haven’t seen anyone physically that use  this strategy, so I don’t really know how effective it will be, but I don’t think a really addicted gambler will do things like this. I am sure anger can make someone do things like this, maybe after losing a huge amount of money, you might end up being angry and decide to red flag your name, but I am sure after a short period of time, an addicted gambler will go back and remove their name.
 
Seriously, if something like this is possible in my country, I will never try it because it makes no sense to me. I am not addicted to gambling, I gamble just for fun. Why won’t I be able to withdraw my money after winning a large amount of money?

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December 11, 2023, 10:24:19 PM
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I dktnkmow the legalities behind limiting someone to winning $200 or its trespassing but if the story is true then good for that guy.  He  understood he was uncontrollably addicted and did what he thought he needed to get over the addiction.  Most people don't know how to get themselves to stop so good on him.  Most people rely 100% on other people coming up with fixes this guy did it right.

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https://www.begambleaware.org/self-exclusion

So yes, you can do go to the gaming commission and ask yourself to be ban. I know a guy that has been banned, but he didn't do it himself, his wife did. The wife call the casinos and describe his husband and obviously his identification.

And then he told me that he was surprised when he go to a casino and that he was stop and was banned from entering. Later he found out that his wife is the one responsible because that time he was really addicted to that point that he is playing money that did not belong to him (he was a government employee that time).

WOW! Actually, this is the 1st time I heard of this self-exclusion thing imagine you will exclude yourself from gambling at a given point in time well not for that long period of months and years I am talking about days or maybe an hour you can surely take advantage to that given time or interval for sure a great gambler will make used of this kind of situation if he already lost it or he is making a lot of money depending on the time given he is banned then he will eventually stop for sure this is to keep him from losing any further or making bets any further then controlling his risk of getting addicted or maybe saving something from gambling and for the house to not take his given money,

If what I think really works then I think that will be great and can be used in anyone's advantage, but if the self-exclusion didn't work that way then there are some better things that anyone can make used of it,

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December 11, 2023, 10:48:17 PM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
We sometimes are not sure of how and the means through which we will become successful financially, Gambling has realistically made some people richer. Some of the people gambling has made rich never expected that they were going to get a fortune from gambling. If there was ever going to be a chance of him becoming financially successful through gambling, he has shut that door with this very wrong decision. I am very perplexed because I actually thought he excluded himself from gambling entirely not limiting himself to what he can win.

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December 11, 2023, 11:40:54 PM
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I dktnkmow the legalities behind limiting someone to winning $200 or its trespassing but if the story is true then good for that guy.  He  understood he was uncontrollably addicted and did what he thought he needed to get over the addiction.  Most people don't know how to get themselves to stop so good on him.  Most people rely 100% on other people coming up with fixes this guy did it right.

If someone is addicted to gambling, they should ask relatives for help to get rid of the addiction. This is the best way for them to get out of the swamp. Gambling addiction causes dire consequences. They understand the severity of gambling and are trying to escape as quickly as possible.
In gambling, if someone cannot control themselves, they should stop as soon as possible. Stay far away from gambling. I have seen many people ruin their lives because of gambling addiction.

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December 11, 2023, 11:57:22 PM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.
 

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
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I read the comments and i think people missed the vital truth. The guy that won 5000$ is already addicted; He is a gambling addict before he won the sum of 5000$ from the poker machine. The winning was simply the trigger neccessary for everyone to notice glaringly that he is addicted.

its easy to stop addiction; friends and family needs to step in and help him, mentally and medically
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December 12, 2023, 12:00:33 AM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.
 

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
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I read the comments and i think people missed the vital truth. The guy that won 5000$ is already addicted; He is a gambling addict before he won the sum of 5000$ from the poker machine. The winning was simply the trigger neccessary for everyone to notice glaringly that he is addicted.

its easy to stop addiction; friends and family needs to step in and help him, mentally and medically

And also, don't forget that the gambler should have the will to change his lifestyle.
Because if it is only because of his family or friends, he can easily go back to gambling.
The change is not easy, so the gambler have to battle his inner demons to overcome this phase of his life.
But for sure, if he surpassed this challenge, he will thank himself for not digging his own grave on this habit.
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December 12, 2023, 12:35:09 AM
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I dktnkmow the legalities behind limiting someone to winning $200 or its trespassing but if the story is true then good for that guy.  He  understood he was uncontrollably addicted and did what he thought he needed to get over the addiction.  Most people don't know how to get themselves to stop so good on him.  Most people rely 100% on other people coming up with fixes this guy did it right.

If someone is addicted to gambling, they should ask relatives for help to get rid of the addiction. This is the best way for them to get out of the swamp. Gambling addiction causes dire consequences. They understand the severity of gambling and are trying to escape as quickly as possible.
In gambling, if someone cannot control themselves, they should stop as soon as possible. Stay far away from gambling. I have seen many people ruin their lives because of gambling addiction.
That is one of the options to stop a gambler from his addiction, but it doesn't work for most of the addicted gamblers. In fact, family and friends can also be an oil to the fire. If the family and friends are not open to gambling, there is a possibility that they discriminate against the gambling addict, which could cause the gambler to be more depressed and gamble more. And the most important thing is that even if the family and friends will support or help the gambling addict, if the person itself doesn't help himself, then there is no point or it's useless. The help should come first from the person who's addicted, not from anyone; they can only guide and support, but they should never be the ones who decide if they want a change. No matter what help a gambling addict gets, if he doesn't have the mindset to change, then there's nothing that could help him.

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December 12, 2023, 02:48:44 AM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
We sometimes are not sure of how and the means through which we will become successful financially, Gambling has realistically made some people richer. Some of the people gambling has made rich never expected that they were going to get a fortune from gambling. If there was ever going to be a chance of him becoming financially successful through gambling, he has shut that door with this very wrong decision. I am very perplexed because I actually thought he excluded himself from gambling entirely not limiting himself to what he can win.

Also note that a lot of lives have been ruined too through gambling addiction. Gambling addicts always believe one day they will make it big through gambling and they dedicate their lives to it until they lose everything.
His decision must have been a tough one for him to make. It was obvious that the activity which once gave him so much excitement was now becoming a problem to him. After considering all he has lost and how his social life has been affected,  hence the decision to discourage himself from gambling. Gambling on its own is not bad, it is the addiction to gambling that is dangerous.

Often times,  gamblers Rejoice over big wins and forget in a rush all they have lost and things that have been affected the previous days. Most times it is not all about the money, the young man clearly needed to fix himself. The only error in his decision is him limiting his gamble wins while being allowed to gamble at the casinos.  An outright ban for a stipulated period of time would have been better. This will ensure he does not keep enriching the casinos at his own expense.

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December 12, 2023, 02:49:04 AM
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self-exclude maybe I've heard of this in offline and online gambling but I wonder why if he limits himself to a certain casino the casino should never allow him to gamble again but from OP story the gambler can still gamble, it's just that winnings are limited. I think it's not about limiting yourself if the gambler is still allowed to gamble but only limiting his winnings or budget and this effort is a little ridiculous on the part of the gambler and what is even more ridiculous is that he limits himself by going to the gaming commission to limit himself but still trying to gamble throw more money away and if lucky only get no more than $200.

there are still many ways to stop being addicted to gambling but you dont have to use this method, but everyone has different ways and the way for me that is smoother and more comfortable is to ask for help from a psychologist to help provide education or any medicine to forget about gambling and try to ask for help. help to the family in any way that is more comfortable than limiting oneself but as if being cheated by the casino he often goes to.

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This is the first time I know of a case where a gambler can go to a gaming commission or a gaming provider and can clearly request that his name be blacklisted by the system because he previously lost a lot of money.
For things related to being banned or limiting gambling site accounts, it might happen and many people say this because they win more, but this case is different from what you said.

But what's really great is that there is one thing that I can admire, namely that he found out his name was registered in the system and couldn't win a large amount then he decided to stop and stay away from all forms of gambling.
Maybe this is one way to stop gambling and recover from addiction, but not all countries have permits for gambling and those who play online cannot do this.

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Based on the story, I can see that guy so disperate about gambling. He could be an example of a first win trap victim himself. I can see that gamblers who are irresponsible sometimes will end this way. That is why it is too important for us to set our limits before anything else to avoid addiction and making mistakes with our decisions.



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December 12, 2023, 08:07:21 AM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
How can it be that his name has been banned but the casino still allows him to play and only limits the winnings he will receive, this is quite unreasonable in my opinion, because in online casinos when you have applied for self-exclusion then you will not be able to make deposits to the casino Even though I have read that there are players who complain because they have applied for self-exclusion and it has been accepted but they can still make deposits and what makes them complain is because they lost their entire deposit while gambling, I mean if your name has been banned it means you can no longer gamble. Self-exclusion might be successful in making someone stop gambling, but for online casinos, players who are already addicted just need to create another casino account to continue playing, but I don't really understand how self exclusion works because I've never done it.

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December 12, 2023, 08:32:29 AM
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It could be foolish, but it worked for him. I mean he knows himself too well even with the restriction on having his name banned from gambling he still went back and gambled, he just needed a good reason for him to stop gambling by not letting him win big whenever he hits a jackpot or winning since this will flag his name in the casino he's been playing with. Without him getting the full amount of winnings from gambling this gave him enough reason to stop going back to casinos which I think is a good win for him, the process could look foolish but as long as the result great I think it's still a good outcome.
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