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December 12, 2023, 08:40:58 AM
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Wait WHAT? He already banned his name yet they still allow him to play? The problem here is that the money still goes from him to the casino and yet nothing goes from the casino to him. The casino should've outright denied his entry instead of doing something like this. It's like a willy-nilly slapshot of bandages that was done haphazardly. That's just... dumb. Wouldn't it be possible to report that or something?

Anw to the topic, yes OP it's possible afaik. Not specifically to gaming commissions though but rather instead to casino directly themselves. May vary from country to country I guess? It's not really an insane move, more like it's pretty common sense to do so if you're able to wake up for a bit. Just that the process itself is kind of iffy for me? As I said, casinos should outright deny the entry instead of something like this.
Some people are wired this way you know, one second they make the right decision and after some minutes later they surrender to their addicts, I guess this man can't control himself that's why he took this step, knowing that it will stop his addiction and probably increase his fear of gambling, to me I believe he did the right thing.

I knew few gamblers that vowed to stop gambling for good but they can't help it but fall to the mercy of gambling later, if this is the only way you can beat your addiction and you can at one time or even a day make the right decisions to stop gambling and after some time the hunger still comes it's better to force yourself to taking such step.

There was this guy, a friend of my brother, who locked himself up in his room years ago, there was no access to the internet using smartphones then, unless you visits the cyber cafe, he did this for few months to stop his addiction and his food was been delivered through the window every time, he ended up succeeding and that's because he made the right choice for himself.
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December 12, 2023, 08:58:25 AM
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It wasn't a self-inflicted act to kick his gambling addiction because he probably knew that if he didn't do that, he would probably lose even more money. He felt that it was all he could do to stop his gambling addiction so he decided to do it. Actually, he could have used other methods, but it seemed he didn't want to find and use them, so he finally chose to use that method.

I will not do something like that but will look for another, easier way. I will ask for help from the people closest to me to help me overcome my gambling addiction so that I can cure it. I am sure that if there is a will to search and find the right way, I can cure his gambling addiction. Each person will choose what he thinks is best in stopping his gambling addiction and the method he takes may seem strange to other people. But if it's to cure their gambling addiction, people can do anything.

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December 12, 2023, 09:30:20 AM
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There was this guy, a friend of my brother, who locked himself up in his room years ago, there was no access to the internet using smartphones then, unless you visits the cyber cafe, he did this for few months to stop his addiction and his food was been delivered through the window every time, he ended up succeeding and that's because he made the right choice for himself.
That's a way that really tortures him, why does he have to be like someone who is locked up, so he can't enjoy life outside, there are so many places to visit, at least look for peace and life outside, there are lots of places to calm your mind as long as you don't bring your cell phone so you can focus more on enjoying the view. also enjoy the atmosphere outside, why should he be locked up in his room, is it possible that the atmosphere and environment outside will bring him back to gambling?

I think it would also be painful if I had to do that, there must be a more humane option to stop addiction, for example my close friend, he busies himself more with family and work so he doesn't have time on his cell phone even though he still gambles at least he reduces it drastically. Slowly, addiction is caused by bad habits carried out excessively, so reducing the habit should be the way to cure it. When the desire to gamble starts to decrease, that's when the gambling addiction heals slowly without torturing him.

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December 12, 2023, 10:00:11 AM
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 It is very difficult for a gambling addict to escape from his gambling activities and get rid of his addiction in just a moment. Everything must be done gradually until finally someone can really escape from this activity. and that is what makes someone keep returning to the casino even though at the previous time he had decided to stop his gambling activities.

And the person the OP told me about, he did the same thing where he tried slowly and gradually until finally he could escape from his gambling habit. The person is not stupid but he is a smart person, because he knows that what makes a person return to gambling is a small win that they get and a big win that they keep dreaming about.
With the restrictions he imposes on his gambling, he really can't dream of a big win. Because even if he gets it, he will still only receive a small portion of the big win he gets.


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December 12, 2023, 10:55:04 AM
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It is very difficult for a gambling addict to escape from his gambling activities and get rid of his addiction in just a moment. Everything must be done gradually until finally someone can really escape from this activity. and that is what makes someone keep returning to the casino even though at the previous time he had decided to stop his gambling activities.

And the person the OP told me about, he did the same thing where he tried slowly and gradually until finally he could escape from his gambling habit. The person is not stupid but he is a smart person, because he knows that what makes a person return to gambling is a small win that they get and a big win that they keep dreaming about.
With the restrictions he imposes on his gambling, he really can't dream of a big win. Because even if he gets it, he will still only receive a small portion of the big win he gets.

Of course, that's not an easy thing to do and not just a gambling addiction, I think addiction to other things will also be difficult to get rid of, because addiction is a condition that makes a person lose control over something and this is usually inherent in the person who is making it difficult for him to get rid of this addiction, especially since it is impossible in a short time. Of course, getting rid of this addiction takes a long time, because it has to be done gradually, it cannot happen all at once. There are many stages that must be carried out and passed through, and as far as I know, these stages are not easy and can even torture someone who wants to get rid of this addiction, especially with gambling or drug addiction. Of course someone must be in rehabilitation to recover from addiction.

and that's normal, because everyone who gambles of course hopes for a big win, and that small win is what convinces them to get a big win, even though they have lost a lot, they will continue to chase that big win. Also, if they get a big win like that, it can't cover the defeats and losses they have had before, where the losses are not in small amounts.

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December 12, 2023, 01:12:48 PM
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He is a fool because after he has gone to report himself in the gambling commission, he is still trying to gamble, meaning that he can't leave his addiction without people forcing him to do that.
Do you know the meaning of addiction at all? Its effect could be so damning, so you can't blame anyone in that category, you should rather support their brave move if they get to any lengths to get themselves cured of it. Calling him a fool still baffles me as the guy is already healed, didn't the plan work? So why still call him a fool? After a whole 10 years since the step was taken, he is yet to play a single game, and that is the purpose of the reportage so that he can find another means to help himself if you don't know. Maybe you will also call those who are seeking external help to fix themselves psychologically foolish even as they visit psychologists, psychiatrists and therapists. See, the mental states of everyone are not the same, and you can't judge them for it. And what works for you might not work for others, and what you didn't expect might work for others, and it's good for them to go for it.

I believe people should rather learn from the testimony of the guy and not ridicule him. Even governments can learn from this and add it to their gambling law for their citizens in case they are battling gambling addiction and have tried other means that didn't work. Our mental strength varies, I have a strong one by the grace of God but I will never condemn those who are having the weakness because you never can tell if that is how they were made. But fighting it and finding a solution above all odds makes them heroic, not otherwise as you claimed, after all, gambling is not by force.

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December 12, 2023, 01:51:39 PM
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The casino he won the $5000 from at that time should have cashed out all the money and not gone to that casino because as you said his name was automatically rejected from that machine. A country doesn't have only one casino because there were multiple casinos so it had to go to other casinos and gamble on a limited scale. If he went to another casino and gambled, he might have a chance to win big money from the other casino as well. Gamblers and gamblers who win large sums of money develop in their minds a desire for more and more profits, and from that desire they gamble more and more money, as a result of which, in most cases, they lose all their money in a hurry.

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December 12, 2023, 01:54:30 PM
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It's possible to have yourself be self-excluded in every gambling site there is so that you can avoid playing and betting to prevent or cure addiction. As far as I know, anyone can do this, you just have to request it. There were few times I've seen people requesting to be self-excluded by sending it through email and some even chats with the moderator or the likes to let them be aware they wanted to be out of the list of the allowed people to play. So casinos block their email and their name so they can't access the application or website. Although I haven't heard one to do this in physical casinos. But I guess it's also applicable, given that it his the actual person who requested.

Maybe we can call this a working strategy for some to eliminate gambling habits and totally quit. But it has its challenges. That's why it's still better to consult a professional and treat addiction with rehabilitation and counselling.
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I also think that it is necessary to get rid of the main problem - gambling addiction. If a gambler can not limit himself in gambling, then the probability that he will not help the restrictions that he made himself is quite high. Restrictions that he has set are easily bypassed, which means that he has unconsciously left himself a loophole to still have ways to gamble. If I were this man, I would gather my strength and go to the professionals for treatment, because in addition to the restrictions should be used psychiatry and drugs that stabilize the psyche.

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December 12, 2023, 02:14:13 PM
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each person may be different in dealing with their addiction, there are people who limit themselves or self-exclude like he did, where a gambler for whatever reason comes to the gaming commission to get themselves banned. what he did needs to be appreciated because he consciously came to the gaming commission because he realized he was already addicted to gambling and didn't want to stay in it any longer.

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December 12, 2023, 02:21:08 PM
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There are many things you can do to not fall victim to gambling addiction. But in the end, everything depends on your will to quit. If you don't try to do it yourself, you will never be able to come out of your gambling addiction. So what he did is a smart thing to do, to be honest. And yes it is an actual thing that you can do to prevent yourself from gambling.
I think if you have made up your mind already that you want to quit gambling, then that's a hero move for sure. He ca still play but not much which will lead to addiction. I think that's a healthy way of preventing himself from gambling.
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December 12, 2023, 02:41:25 PM
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each person may be different in dealing with their addiction, there are people who limit themselves or self-exclude like he did, where a gambler for whatever reason comes to the gaming commission to get themselves banned. what he did needs to be appreciated because he consciously came to the gaming commission because he realized he was already addicted to gambling and didn't want to stay in it any longer.
You are apparently right, there are many gamblers that have such things like the story from the Op, one thing that can make a gambler do so is only if he or she is going too far in terms of gambling.
However, I do not have to blame them because they are just trying to secure their funds and sme time reduce the kind of addictions they have for gamble.

I would do the the same thing but I will not go too far like the addicted gambler, I will do same because I too will want to stop gamble or reduce the kind of love I have for gamble.
Something we should learn not to be too familiar with things do that we will not end up been used to it.

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December 12, 2023, 02:46:42 PM
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I have never come across such a person who stopped himself from gambling addiction using that method. But it might be good for him because he can avoid using a lot of money to gamble. And if he wins, he can only win as much as $200. It was a big win for most of the people as they only got a little winning amount.

And it's good that he hasn't approached gambling for more than 10 years in that way so it might work for someone who is very serious and dares to choose ways that seem extreme to others. There may be other methods that can also work well for other people because the methods used by each person will definitely be different.

With the aim of curing their gambling addiction, people try every means they know. They won't care if it hurts them because they really want to cure their gambling addiction. If they are successful, they can share their story with other gambling addicts to motivate them.



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December 12, 2023, 02:52:38 PM
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What is the source of this story? It looks fake to me, because if he was really banned from playing at casinos due to having his name labeled in the system, why would they let him enter the casino at first place, and still winning up to 200$ without any warnings? And with so many gambling platforms available on the internet and even illegal land based casinos, why wouldn't he go for any of them to place some bets?

Just because he self-excluded himself from a single or few regulated local casinos, it doesn't mean he is completely out of touch with gambling industry, therefore it also doesn't make sense he is under gambling abstinence for 10 years already.

Or this story was made up, or this guy has stopped gambling for another reasons.

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December 12, 2023, 04:53:08 PM
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Well. I knew there was possible to sign in for self-exclusion in individual casinos, depending on the jurisdiction, but I did not know it was possible for anyone to actually get banned in such a way which would stop one from winning big in any casino nationwide. Quite a harsh system, that guy must have felt completely desperate in order to control his addiction, though I am glad he managed to get his life back on track.
That system obviously does not exist here in my country and I would personally only take such a hard and extreme measure if I was suffering from a crippling addiction to gambling.

I personally believe that gamblers who have realized they suffers from a problem be given the most options and chances for them to recover, I am not such a system would not help to the 100 percent of gamblers in my country, because some of them will just move onto informal gambling, playing cards and roll dices in private events to stay away from the radars of regulated casinos, but if that system at least helps 20 percent of those who opt for it, then it would be worth to try and implement it here and in other places.
I would also like for mental health treatment to be more affordable and widespread, bot only for problem gamblers, but for anyone who believes needs it.

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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Well, his method worked so definitely not a fool. Hero? Hardly, he just did what he had to do. But anyway, he had balls to do it so he definitely deserves some respect.

I would do the same, but unfortunately this method works only with conventional casinos, you can still gamble online.
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There was this guy, a friend of my brother, who locked himself up in his room years ago, there was no access to the internet using smartphones then, unless you visits the cyber cafe, he did this for few months to stop his addiction and his food was been delivered through the window every time, he ended up succeeding and that's because he made the right choice for himself.
That's a way that really tortures him, why does he have to be like someone who is locked up, so he can't enjoy life outside, there are so many places to visit, at least look for peace and life outside, there are lots of places to calm your mind as long as you don't bring your cell phone so you can focus more on enjoying the view. also enjoy the atmosphere outside, why should he be locked up in his room, is it possible that the atmosphere and environment outside will bring him back to gambling?

I think it would also be painful if I had to do that, there must be a more humane option to stop addiction, for example my close friend, he busies himself more with family and work so he doesn't have time on his cell phone even though he still gambles at least he reduces it drastically. Slowly, addiction is caused by bad habits carried out excessively, so reducing the habit should be the way to cure it. When the desire to gamble starts to decrease, that's when the gambling addiction heals slowly without torturing him.
It's not a form of torture, it's just a lesson and a corresponding punishment when a person becomes addicted to gambling, when we are in a room with little light and cold, avoiding technological communication, the way we look at life and enjoy it will be different than ever, many people may think this is too extreme and cruel to themselves, but the overall assessment is still a positive result. Outside, it may give us more space but freedom gives us access to bad behavior and not knowing how to appreciate the existing goodness, good and healing by being alone for a few months is better than curing slowly but the possibility of relapse is high

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Never heard this one. Wow something new. I say he is a fool for making such a decision but I think that he is a hero for overcoming his gambling addiction. It's not something one can get rid of in an overnight. So I what he did can be considered as an act of heroism. I know because I have been there. Those who were an addict at a time knows the feeling. Judging one person from a distance can be very easy. But when one actually go through this only then he knows how hard it is.
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December 12, 2023, 08:05:14 PM
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There was this guy, a friend of my brother, who locked himself up in his room years ago, there was no access to the internet using smartphones then, unless you visits the cyber cafe, he did this for few months to stop his addiction and his food was been delivered through the window every time, he ended up succeeding and that's because he made the right choice for himself.
That's a way that really tortures him, why does he have to be like someone who is locked up, so he can't enjoy life outside, there are so many places to visit, at least look for peace and life outside, there are lots of places to calm your mind as long as you don't bring your cell phone so you can focus more on enjoying the view. also enjoy the atmosphere outside, why should he be locked up in his room, is it possible that the atmosphere and environment outside will bring him back to gambling?

I think it would also be painful if I had to do that, there must be a more humane option to stop addiction, for example my close friend, he busies himself more with family and work so he doesn't have time on his cell phone even though he still gambles at least he reduces it drastically. Slowly, addiction is caused by bad habits carried out excessively, so reducing the habit should be the way to cure it. When the desire to gamble starts to decrease, that's when the gambling addiction heals slowly without torturing him.
It's not a form of torture, it's just a lesson and a corresponding punishment when a person becomes addicted to gambling, when we are in a room with little light and cold, avoiding technological communication, the way we look at life and enjoy it will be different than ever, many people may think this is too extreme and cruel to themselves, but the overall assessment is still a positive result. Outside, it may give us more space but freedom gives us access to bad behavior and not knowing how to appreciate the existing goodness, good and healing by being alone for a few months is better than curing slowly but the possibility of relapse is high
Having that kind of method then it would really be just no better than when you are really that get imprisoned on a cell on which i dont see for it to be that something to be good to be done by someone for them to just to avoid or really trying to get rid of possible addiction on which which we know that we can really be able to avoid up things without having to do such extreme manner on which its not really that good anymore.
Instead on trying to get rid of those addiction, you would really be rather adding up that kind of stress and whatever negative emotions that you would really be able to feel out.

When it comes to self exclusions then i would say that it would really be that somewhat no sense considering that people would really be that still be able to play if they wanted to.
Access nowadays would really be just that simple specially if you do have the money then it wont really be that an issue.This is why everything would really matter
self control and discipline would be always the main talk on here.

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December 12, 2023, 09:28:41 PM
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It is very difficult for a gambling addict to escape from his gambling activities and get rid of his addiction in just a moment. Everything must be done gradually until finally someone can really escape from this activity. and that is what makes someone keep returning to the casino even though at the previous time he had decided to stop his gambling activities.

And the person the OP told me about, he did the same thing where he tried slowly and gradually until finally he could escape from his gambling habit. The person is not stupid but he is a smart person, because he knows that what makes a person return to gambling is a small win that they get and a big win that they keep dreaming about.
With the restrictions he imposes on his gambling, he really can't dream of a big win. Because even if he gets it, he will still only receive a small portion of the big win he gets.



No matter how much effort a gambler puts towards completely quitting gambling, it will all prove abortive, it's possible to take a break from gambling for a little while but quiting completely, I don't think that's possible, at some point you'll still have the urge to gamble again and no matter how hard you try to hold yourself, on day you'll surely fulfill your urge and gamble again, it's  absolutely inevitable. It would've been better you never started. Sometimes I do regret why I learned how to gamble because right now I just wanna stop cos this wasn't what I expected when I decided to gamble lol.

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