A hero or a fool?

[Sandra_hakeem]

I can't wrap my head around how your caption correlates with your context... Why's that? I don't even think it does...
This man hasn't given full details as to what happened between him and his favourite casinos; how he's got his name flagged in Thier system and how he's been banned to not win more than $200... I think he's gone against the general T/Cs of the gambling commission and probably, his IP and credentials have been reported to the commission by the casinos involved...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

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[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

What do people call someone who has no self-control over what they are doing? Gambling is what he started by himself, and by right, he is supposed to be able to practice self-control. Although he's decision was not a bad one, if he actually banned his name by himself, then it's just a means he took to help himself from being destroyed by gambling addiction. It's actually true that some people gamble so badly that they could end up in the streets; that's after they might have sold all their belongings just to gambling. I will not classify him as a hero, but he took a wise decision for himself.

[alegotardo]

I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

Yes, I've heard about that.
The most common thing is for a family member to do this, it could be a parent or even a wife... they claim that the person is addicted to gambling and that this is compromising their mental and financial health and also the stability of the family.
These rules differ from one country to another, so I don't know how bureaucratic it must be in each country. However, I believe that the process for requesting self-exclusion is much simpler, but I also don't know if it is possible for the person themselves to be able to remove this self-exclusion as easily as they had to add their name to the blacklist.

Anyway, wouldn't it be interesting if online casinos also had something similar to a common list of excluded players?

[Saisher]

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

More like a makeup story coming from that guy, defaulting your win or limiting your winning to $200 even with consent is not right there should be a lawyer present to make it legal and binding, the casino maybe violating one of their provision of granting the winner his winning, it's different when he makes a deal that he will give a portion or all his winnings to charity but limiting and keeping your winnings by the casino is not good for the casino's reputation its close to stealing, I don't think we have something like this in our country as I never read something like this happen here in our country.

[Webetcoins]

I wouldn't call him a hero or a fool because he simply did what he needed to do in his situation. He was losing more than he could afford to lose and he had to find a solution to stop that. I think he made a good and brave decision by doing that. Not everyone addicted gambler can take steps like that because addicted gamblers mostly don't realize where they are going and what they are getting themselves into, even if some of them do, they don't do anything to stop that from happening.

Only a small number of addicted gamblers can manage to take such steps where they finally decide to do something about their addiction, and if they do it themselves, without having any assistance from others, that's commendable in my opinion. I would applaud an addicted gambler if they manage to get out of their addiction without personal or professional help.

[maydna]

What do people call someone who has no self-control over what they are doing? Gambling is what he started by himself, and by right, he is supposed to be able to practice self-control. Although he's decision was not a bad one, if he actually banned his name by himself, then it's just a means he took to help himself from being destroyed by gambling addiction. It's actually true that some people gamble so badly that they could end up in the streets; that's after they might have sold all their belongings just to gambling. I will not classify him as a hero, but he took a wise decision for himself.

But there are still many people who cannot exercise self-control, so they still experience a lot of losses from gambling. Perhaps they still underestimate this issue of self-control so much that they don't really want to learn it, even if they have experienced loss before. But if they are really serious about stopping their gambling activities, they will definitely look for all the methods they know and do them. And in that case, we can learn something new to be able to stop gambling activities. It may seem like forcing the person to stop gambling immediately, but perhaps he feels that this is the only way he can really reduce his gambling activities and even stop him from gambling.

[Juse14]

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Of course, that's not an easy thing to do and not just a gambling addiction, I think addiction to other things will also be difficult to get rid of, because addiction is a condition that makes a person lose control over something and this is usually inherent in the person who is making it difficult for him to get rid of this addiction, especially since it is impossible in a short time. Of course, getting rid of this addiction takes a long time, because it has to be done gradually, it cannot happen all at once. There are many stages that must be carried out and passed through, and as far as I know, these stages are not easy and can even torture someone who wants to get rid of this addiction, especially with gambling or drug addiction. Of course someone must be in rehabilitation to recover from addiction.

and that's normal, because everyone who gambles of course hopes for a big win, and that small win is what convinces them to get a big win, even though they have lost a lot, they will continue to chase that big win. Also, if they get a big win like that, it can't cover the defeats and losses they have had before, where the losses are not in small amounts.

The feeling of addiction is not innate, the feeling of addiction can arise because of a bad habit that is carried out, due to the inability to control oneself from the activities that one does. He is too engrossed in the gambling activities he is doing, so that when he has free time the first thing that comes to mind is gambling, even when he is working what comes to mind is gambling.

Let's not talk too much about drug addiction, we will talk about things that are closer. And the fact is that nowadays people are very addicted to cellphones. Even in carrying out daily activities, a person cannot be separated from a cellphone. Likewise for me personally, I am quite addicted to cellphones, even when I wake up, the first thing I look for is a cellphone even though no one is calling or sending messages. and before sleeping, the last thing I saw was my cellphone.

And back to gambling, as I mentioned above, when someone is addicted to gambling, what they have in mind is gambling and getting a big win. And that is what makes it difficult for a person to get out of gambling, because gambling continues to haunt his mind.

[qwertyup23]

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

Certain casinos can actually prohibit a person from entering their establishment due to winning too much. According to this ARTICLE, Dana White was banned from a certain casino since he won too much money (approximately ~$7 million) in a single night.¹

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Well if I am addicted to gambling and there is a prohibition for me to gamble, then I would actually be compelled to stop. If the establishment themselves are the ones limiting my bets, then I would definitely feel betrayed which can contribute to me quitting in the first place.


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[Hispo]

I can't wrap my head around how your caption correlates with your context... Why's that? I don't even think it does...
This man hasn't given full details as to what happened between him and his favourite casinos; how he's got his name flagged in Thier system and how he's been banned to not win more than $200... I think he's gone against the general T/Cs of the gambling commission and probably, his IP and credentials have been reported to the commission by the casinos involved...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

I believe this is an story of someone who was mostly dealing with brick-and-mortar casinos, to be honest. Perhaps this also happened in an era where online casinos were not as common as they are today. Because I cannot conceive all online Casinos are so well coordinated in order to ban certain individual at the request of themselves with such a widespread manner. Usually, as we all know, exclusion programs only apply to specific services and platforms and do not affect the experience on others.
So if you had my guess, this story is from a country where Brick-and-mortar casinos were more available than online ones and also where gambling law allows one to get blacklisted nationwide in an irreversible way.

There is also a chance this whole story to be frictional and someone just said that to OP for whatever reason.
Anyways, regardless of whether this is true or not, it is an interesting system, indeed.

[Die_empty]

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I will do everything possible to stop addiction if it is affecting my finances, relationships or health negatively. Some gamblers deserve to be banned from gambling because they have seen gambling as a full-time job. Some of them go to the extent of auctioning their personal belongings to finance gambling. Recently a young man stole a generator in my area because he wanted to gamble. This set of persons needs to be restricted to avoid further misbehaviour. 

I probably won't do the same thing he did but I'd most likely look for other ways to stop my addiction, I mean, there are better ways to overcome addiction without risking yourself from being prosecuted. anyway, if the story is true, I'm glad it worked for him, I don't even know if what he said is possible, I mean I know you can do it on an online casino but I am not sure if it is possible on physical casinos.

I recently commented on a thread today that told the story of a young promising man who committed suicide because he lost a large amount of money on gambling. Taking drastic action to stop gambling addiction could be good especially if it is getting out of hand. It will be better to be banned from gambling than to be in debt, suffer health problems or even commit suicide.     

[junder]

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Of course, that's not an easy thing to do and not just a gambling addiction, I think addiction to other things will also be difficult to get rid of, because addiction is a condition that makes a person lose control over something and this is usually inherent in the person who is making it difficult for him to get rid of this addiction, especially since it is impossible in a short time. Of course, getting rid of this addiction takes a long time, because it has to be done gradually, it cannot happen all at once. There are many stages that must be carried out and passed through, and as far as I know, these stages are not easy and can even torture someone who wants to get rid of this addiction, especially with gambling or drug addiction. Of course someone must be in rehabilitation to recover from addiction.

and that's normal, because everyone who gambles of course hopes for a big win, and that small win is what convinces them to get a big win, even though they have lost a lot, they will continue to chase that big win. Also, if they get a big win like that, it can't cover the defeats and losses they have had before, where the losses are not in small amounts.

The feeling of addiction is not innate, the feeling of addiction can arise because of a bad habit that is carried out, due to the inability to control oneself from the activities that one does. He is too engrossed in the gambling activities he is doing, so that when he has free time the first thing that comes to mind is gambling, even when he is working what comes to mind is gambling.

Let's not talk too much about drug addiction, we will talk about things that are closer. And the fact is that nowadays people are very addicted to cellphones. Even in carrying out daily activities, a person cannot be separated from a cellphone. Likewise for me personally, I am quite addicted to cellphones, even when I wake up, the first thing I look for is a cellphone even though no one is calling or sending messages. and before sleeping, the last thing I saw was my cellphone.

And back to gambling, as I mentioned above, when someone is addicted to gambling, what they have in mind is gambling and getting a big win. And that is what makes it difficult for a person to get out of gambling, because gambling continues to haunt his mind.

Yes, that's right, addiction is not a natural trait from the moment a person is born, but is something they usually do and tends to make them happy. but this addiction is also because they themselves caused it, because they themselves cannot control themselves as you said. and in my opinion this kind of thinking must be eliminated, otherwise they will be easily tempted by what they think is happy. This has become a common thing, not only for you, but in my opinion, most people cannot be away from their cell phones because cell phones have become the main thing in life today, because cell phones have become a friend for someone who will be taken anywhere and at any time therefore This makes it easier for many people to get to know online gambling, especially with the technology that is currently developing. So you should also avoid excessive cellphone use. because it can lose our focus.

Therefore, it is not easy for them to give up their habits, especially if they are addicted, this will be difficult to get rid of. because their minds are filled with gambling and the victory they want to get, making them  only focus on gambling. Also, if they are addicted to gambling, it will be difficult to leave the gambling that is attached to them, therefore  it is better to reduce gambling activities, because in my opinion prevention is better than cure.

[BenCodie]

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

He did the right thing. The fact is, there is no ultimate joy in gambling. Just like any instant gratification, gambling. prostitution, drugs, alcohol, etc., it may feel great in the very short term but after the high is over, very rarely will you feel better afterward...and the more you do it, the more damage you will do to yourself, and if you are limited to not being able to achieve instant gratification, just like the man in your example, then it will feel pointless and joyless.

It's not insane, it's called being responsible...and being responsible is neither gratifying or enjoyable in the short term, but can be when looking back in the long term.

[Oasisman]

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

No, not definitely a fool but I can't call him a hero yet unless if he successfully become free from uncontrollable gambling urges. What he does is actually a self-exclusion, a voluntary act of preventing ones self to enter casinos or even playing it online. However, one can still register in an online casino using a different identity, so this is the reason why I can't call him a hero yet because there are still a lot of ways he can participate and feed his gambling urges even though he is already prohibited in a land based casino. Nonetheless, it's most probably going to be a successful way of beating gambling addiction since he have done this necessary step himself.

[Docnaster]

I wouldn't call him a hero or a fool because he simply did what he needed to do in his situation. He was losing more than he could afford to lose and he had to find a solution to stop that. I think he made a good and brave decision by doing that. Not everyone addicted gambler can take steps like that because addicted gamblers mostly don't realize where they are going and what they are getting themselves into, even if some of them do, they don't do anything to stop that from happening.

Only a small number of addicted gamblers can manage to take such steps where they finally decide to do something about their addiction, and if they do it themselves, without having any assistance from others, that's commendable in my opinion. I would applaud an addicted gambler if they manage to get out of their addiction without personal or professional help.

I totally agree with your point on the subject because the young man in question was intentional with his action which he did to regulate his excesses in gambling. For an addicted gambler to help himself overcome his addiction in gambling, he must firstly accept his fate as a gambling addict before he can start applying measures that'll help him overcome his addiction and carefully looking at the story of discussion, the man in question has already accepted that he's lost more than he's gained hence the need to regulate himself.

It was indeed a bold step to regulate himself by going to the authorities and report himself as a gambling addict who's seeking for help to stop his addiction and that was why his name was flagged but the incessant urge to gamble still didn't stop him from going to casinos to gamble even when he knows that his name has been flagged. In my own opinion he's a hero who truly wants to get rid of an addiction that's messed up his financial life.

[Gozie51]

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

If you want to really stop an addicttion then you have to take a very stringent step to do that otherwise you will see yourself going back to it from time to time. So if this person has gone to gambling commission of his country to ban himself from gambling it means he is serious about what he wants and that is good.

He is not a fool but would have been a fool if he has kept pretending to himself that he would stop gambling whilst he kept losing on it. Someone who wants to stop an addicttion need to go the mile to achieve it like he has done for himself which is really a step in the appropriate direction and from the information, he has not gambled for the past 10 years and perhaps would have saved more money more than if he was still gambling.

[irhact]

But there are still many people who cannot exercise self-control, so they still experience a lot of losses from gambling. Perhaps they still underestimate this issue of self-control so much that they don't really want to learn it, even if they have experienced loss before. But if they are really serious about stopping their gambling activities, they will definitely look for all the methods they know and do them. And in that case, we can learn something new to be able to stop gambling activities. It may seem like forcing the person to stop gambling immediately, but perhaps he feels that this is the only way he can really reduce his gambling activities and even stop him from gambling.

All individuals that cannot exercise self control when they're gambling won't be good gamblers and they cannot make profits. Self control is very important as it can make you to avoid losses from gambling with emotions or chasing after losses that'll only lead to you losing more of you money instead of making profits. If you notice you don't have self control, you have to stop gambling further to work on your emotions or it'll make you to lose your entire money.

OP did what he had to do to help himself as no body is there to help you as casinos are only after profits so they'll do everything they can to make you stay addicted if it isn't making them to lose money but when you keep winning then they'll claim they're helping you as you're becoming addicted but the main reason is so you don't make them to lose. Addictions doesn't just happen, it develop slowly therefore we should be observing ourselves when we're gambling and we won't get addicted.

[angrybirdy]

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

If you want to really stop an addicttion then you have to take a very stringent step to do that otherwise you will see yourself going back to it from time to time. So if this person has gone to gambling commission of his country to ban himself from gambling it means he is serious about what he wants and that is good.

He is not a fool but would have been a fool if he has kept pretending to himself that he would stop gambling whilst he kept losing on it. Someone who wants to stop an addicttion need to go the mile to achieve it like he has done for himself which is really a step in the appropriate direction and from the information, he has not gambled for the past 10 years and perhaps would have saved more money more than if he was still gambling.

Correct, what he did is something really serious because that person really did an effort to go in his country's Gambling commission just to report himself as gambling addict. In that way, He proves to us that he intentionally wants to get rid his addiction however it's not that easy as it will take a lot of time to become addicted free and it requires professional help too.

[Kelward]

A hero to himself but a fool to others.

This is simply how I see it because of the fact that he cannot control himself hence the Fool and because he did it to himself to save himself, then he is a hero for himself. That's just how I see it and if that's the only way he can, then it's good he did it to help himself.

A weird take on this is he can still play. I mean I would understand if it's online but if it's land based, it's still weird. It's like the ban is not there if he could still play. The Hero turned into a Fool since it's like that lol.

His method might seem foolish to some and heroic to others, but so far it worked for him even if the move might seem foolish, in the end it stopped his gambling addiction, then I guess he is the conquering hero. I once read in a book that result is more important than method, so the end justifies the means, because he was able to use a method that seems foolish to most of us, then eventually got his desired result, I'll have to label him a winner and hero. What if he had chosen a more convenient method like getting help through therapy and in the end he still finds himself in casinos, still losing money? So in conclusion, it's better to use foolish method and get the job done than to use wise method without positive result.

[EluguHcman]

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

Some persons in life has really accepted settling for less and living comfortably in poverty.
I think such a gambler is one of the categories because I don't understand why he would pick to be addicted simply because he won a $5K. That is to say he can not utilize expensive or luxurious opportunities ( high incomes) instead he lives by making good live in earning pennies (low incomes)

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

I don't see any difference changed in his gambling carriers here as a form of keeping a responsible gambling.
His name wasn't successful banned from the casino as long he still visits the casino to bet. There is no smart move about this. So does it mean if he finds an obvious big winning he wouldn't place a stake to it? Well, let me assume he is limited to the $200 in a winning but he was not limited to how long he is limited to stay in the casino or the limited number of times he is permitted to place his bet on a schedule.
So I think if he sees a $100K obvious winning, he would bet on the game in multiples rounds so he could take chances and accumulate the huge winning instead of a per bet that is to bridge his proposed agreement with the casino commissions.
If yes on this track, yeah there is absolutely no different of his formal and now gambling life.
Also, does banning of his name in the casino commission qualifies that he would maintain a reputable gambling? Of course not because he can always have a used of other names.

The thing is that you can't have yourself handcuffed while drowning in the water and you have the keys to get yourself unlocked and you just watch yourself drown because every suicidal by drowning do struggles to get back to life.
The story of this gambler is not clear to me and when did the casino commission become an institution to execute prosecution of gamblers trespassing a winning limit?
Because I know the casino need to make more money and wouldn't do that so if he is mean then he should get himself reported to the police and get listed on a watchlist.

[Jawhead999]

Correct, what he did is something really serious because that person really did an effort to go in his country's Gambling commission just to report himself as gambling addict. In that way, He proves to us that he intentionally wants to get rid his addiction however it's not that easy as it will take a lot of time to become addicted free and it requires professional help too.

If he aware with his own addiction, I guess he should be aware for taking next step when his addiction is not completely cured. The chance for such people to move on and start a new journey as a mindful person is high, not like addict who wasn't aware of his own addiction and even though all of close people with him already ask him to stop, he won't stop and might commit suicide when the worst case happen.