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January 02, 2024, 06:54:55 AM
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When they experience a breakdown in gambling, they will begin to realize that everything was their fault for not wanting to think about what they had done. Once they realize it and are willing to try to fix it, they still have the opportunity to do so. Many people make mistakes but only a few people can realize their mistakes while they continue to make other mistakes. It won't change the situation and will only keep making mistakes. But if they can finally regret their mistakes and try to correct them, they can change things for the better. And with the lessons they get, they can become wise gamblers who will not follow their egos in gambling.

Indeed, it will never be easy because we must learn to have responsibility first. If their consciousness tells them that they are ready to learn the necessary things, they will start to change their mindset and start being responsible for what they do in gambling. They can also change the bad things in their lives to become responsible gamblers.
If it just ordinary problems and annoyances in life then I not sure they will be able to truly realize that everything is their own fault because they have failed to have an understanding and approach when gambling.
There are many gamblers out there who have experienced various problems and disorders but they still act like someone who cannot think clearly, they still make various mistakes in every gambling activity.
A gambler can truly have new understanding and awareness if they have experienced very difficult problem and they cannot solve it, from here they will initially regret it and then try to think and take several actions to be better.

In fact, everyone has sense of responsibility, except when they were children, sense of responsibility is an innate attitude and those who fail to always use an attitude of responsibility are people who are no longer able to think well because of the impact of addiction.
Mindset is always the main factor in success and of course it is the mindset that directs everyone towards more correct path in every decision.

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January 02, 2024, 09:26:33 AM
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Your insights on the challenges faced by gamblers and the crucial role of personal responsibility and mindset are thought-provoking. Indeed, acknowledging one's faults and taking proactive steps towards positive change is essential.
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January 02, 2024, 10:11:32 AM
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Gambler becomes addicted to gambling it becomes very difficult to make positive changes his thoughts or views will be different which will lead him to more damage. Then nothing good will work in his mind he will continue to gamble. That's why gambling should be done in a limited way knowing the bad ways of gambling. A gambler can easily get himself out of trouble if his intentions are right.

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January 02, 2024, 01:19:33 PM
 #204

Gambler becomes addicted to gambling it becomes very difficult to make positive changes his thoughts or views will be different which will lead him to more damage. Then nothing good will work in his mind he will continue to gamble. That's why gambling should be done in a limited way knowing the bad ways of gambling. A gambler can easily get himself out of trouble if his intentions are right.

Youre right. If someone gets hooked on gambling, it messes up their mindset and makes it hard to turn things around. Keeping it in check and knowing the risks helps. If they're in it for the right reasons, they can get out of trouble and avoid the constant gambling trap.

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January 02, 2024, 01:36:13 PM
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Youre right. If someone gets hooked on gambling, it messes up their mindset and makes it hard to turn things around. Keeping it in check and knowing the risks helps. If they're in it for the right reasons, they can get out of trouble and avoid the constant gambling trap.

It really depends on the tolerance of each person towards gambling. I always become hook on gambling whenever I’m playing but I stop thinking about gambling after my game. The problem of people that usually get addicted was they still keep daydreaming to win big even after gambling. Continuous thinking about gambling is what makes uncontrollable that later result to addiction.

You can become hook on gambling without being addicted if you know when to stop and play.

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January 03, 2024, 06:28:29 AM
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If it just ordinary problems and annoyances in life then I not sure they will be able to truly realize that everything is their own fault because they have failed to have an understanding and approach when gambling.
There are many gamblers out there who have experienced various problems and disorders but they still act like someone who cannot think clearly, they still make various mistakes in every gambling activity.
A gambler can truly have new understanding and awareness if they have experienced very difficult problem and they cannot solve it, from here they will initially regret it and then try to think and take several actions to be better.

In fact, everyone has sense of responsibility, except when they were children, sense of responsibility is an innate attitude and those who fail to always use an attitude of responsibility are people who are no longer able to think well because of the impact of addiction.
Mindset is always the main factor in success and of course it is the mindset that directs everyone towards more correct path in every decision.
If they regret what they have done and try to change it by taking action to improve, they will have the opportunity to improve what they have done. It does take time but if they consistently try to improve it, they will not regret doing it because it is for the sake of solving their problems and so that they do not get too deep into their gambling activities. They will understand that gambling is just for fun and not to chase wins or make money. No, it's not like that. And when they start to see changes happening to them, they will try to continue it and try not to cross their limits in gambling.

Only they can learn responsibility, not other people, because other people can only give advice and suggestions, so they have to do it. After all, it was still worth doing because it was for their good too. And if they eventually correct their mistakes, they can enjoy gambling as they should and will not exceed their limits. For them, responsibility in gambling is very important so that they can gamble relaxedly and have no desire to chase victory because it will be difficult for them to get it. They will also let victory come to them and not chase victory.

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January 08, 2024, 12:49:13 PM
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~ It really depends on the tolerance of each person towards gambling. I always become hook on gambling whenever I’m playing but I stop thinking about gambling after my game. The problem of people that usually get addicted was they still keep daydreaming to win big even after gambling. Continuous thinking about gambling is what makes uncontrollable that later result to addiction.

You can become hook on gambling without being addicted if you know when to stop and play.

Good observation. I too think that within a game you can be "hooked" to it or whatever, especially if it makers your experience more vivid, why not? But when the game is over you have to move on, and it's very important to understand that your thoughts must be free from gambling when you are doing something else. That's your first clue: if can't think of anything but gambling all the time, maybe you start developing an addiction and you have to do something about it.

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January 08, 2024, 12:59:43 PM
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Gambling provides great temptation to all gamblers, and only wise gamblers can avoid this temptation and gamble comfortably because they don't think too much about winning. They can make decisions to avoid gambling when they don't feel like gambling.

Agree with you, that the temptation to gamble is very big and only a few people are able to resist the temptation. As you said, one of them is a wise gambler, they can play wisely by limiting their money and when to play, especially if they really understand the risks in gambling so that a wise gambler is not so much after winning as it is for entertainment.
Therefore, wise gamblers play naturally and they know that winning is very difficult to achieve, so when they feel bored, it is time for them to stop for a moment and think about something else that is useful for them.
Wise gamblers are winners, not in the way that they win the prize but because they learn how to decline temptation and are able to manage their gambling habits that won't compromise their finances and family relationships. Because it is important that we know how to control emotions as this is a huge factor that affects our gambling habits.

We must learn how to accept losses and we must know our position. We are not the house that always wins which is why we need not think about winning but instead, think of just having fun.



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January 08, 2024, 01:06:54 PM
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In my opinion, winning in gambling is a pleasant addition to the game and nothing more, and losing is a natural event that is explained mathematically. If a gambler seeks only to win, then losses negatively affect him, which ultimately leads to problems.

Play for fun and when you are lucky enough to win you will be immensely pleased.

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January 08, 2024, 01:12:02 PM
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Preventive measures and reducing the risk of losing money when gambling is a must for gamblers. Unfortunately, many gamblers don't pay attention to this because they want to win and instead use more and more money to gamble. They don't win but lose, making them even more frustrated because they can't win the gambling game. Gambling provides great temptation to all gamblers, and only wise gamblers can avoid this temptation and gamble comfortably because they don't think too much about winning. They can make decisions to avoid gambling when they don't feel like gambling.
In the case of the man that OP has mentioned, there's no way that's going to make a dent to his gambling problem because he's still gambling and at the same time he's still gambling right and it's much worse because he's also limited when it comes to wins which means it's all losses for him.

The fact he's realized his mistakes can help the gambler to struggle out of addiction. His problem could be worse if he never noticed it or felt remorse for his activities. What he did is the right thing, at least he'd be observing himself and the restriction will help remind him of his decision. Changing is not easy and one will undergo series of process before he'd be free from gambling addiction. You don't expect him to stop immediately. He just did what he thinks is right for himself. Other gamblers may not do anything for themselves except for the help of people around him. Reducing the amount of money also controls him to know that regardless of what he does in gambling he won't win more than the specific amount. Hence stopping his urge to chase losses. Losing out his rent on gambling shows that he must have been looking to win huge amount of money in gambling, which then led him to addiction. His decision is fine.

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January 08, 2024, 01:21:13 PM
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In my opinion, winning in gambling is a pleasant addition to the game and nothing more, and losing is a natural event that is explained mathematically. If a gambler seeks only to win, then losses negatively affect him, which ultimately leads to problems.

Play for fun and when you are lucky enough to win you will be immensely pleased.
Losing is inevitable in gambling and its something that cant really be avoided and this is why it would be always recommended that you should really be that making yourself that getting prepared for whatever things that you would encounter on which it would be mostly be pertaining about having those losses and if you dont make yourself that get prepared then you would really be that impulsive.
Basing up into the situation which is really that mentioned on OP then this is really something a step which it might really be that looking that too desperate but it is really just that something that right
if you are really that serious when it comes on quitting gambling for good. It is really just that impossible that someone cant really be able to notice on how addicted you are towards gambling
on which it would really be that impossible that you cant sense something.
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I am pretty sure that this would be possible to ban yourself as I would assume this is part of self-exclusion programs to protect yourself. I guess casinos are actually obliged to offer this option to their customers the same way they have to offer this online when you use these self-exclusion periods. I think you can choose between several options ranging from hours to months to a year to entire self-exclusion forever. But the thing is this only applies to one specific casino then. I don't know if there is some central authority where you can provide your name, ban yourself and they communicate your data or allow for your data to be checked by online providers to see if you are eligible to play or not. I wouldn't call a person a fool when they understand they have a problem they can't handle otherwise. Better exclude yourself before you cause other people to have to deal with even more harm.

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January 08, 2024, 05:41:11 PM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
To The gambler who went to the commission so that they will blacklist his name from gambling and has already reduced his opportunity of winning to only $200, I can say that he is a fool at first and the later he is a hero. Why do I call him a fool is because in this life he has limited himself not to regain the money he has lost in gambling by enemies. It could also be a good team to him because why he will not be able to win up to the amount he lost in gambling it is another way of saving his money not to lavish more in gambling.

If actually he needed to stop gambling it is something he could do by himself and not to report himself to the authority and in the end the authority took away the freedom he has. Even if in the future when he regains his sanity and they want to remove the limitation it will be a problem to him because he would receive so much questions that he will not be able to answer. The best thing to do is to remain discipline by yourself and give yourself such limitation so that in the future at any given time you could simply reverse situation or decision and everything will change good for you. I also acknowledge that it is not everyone that will be discipline to this extent so the essence of the measures that he took.

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The fact he's realized his mistakes can help the gambler to struggle out of addiction. His problem could be worse if he never noticed it or felt remorse for his activities. What he did is the right thing, at least he'd be observing himself and the restriction will help remind him of his decision. Changing is not easy and one will undergo series of process before he'd be free from gambling addiction. You don't expect him to stop immediately. He just did what he thinks is right for himself. Other gamblers may not do anything for themselves except for the help of people around him. Reducing the amount of money also controls him to know that regardless of what he does in gambling he won't win more than the specific amount. Hence stopping his urge to chase losses. Losing out his rent on gambling shows that he must have been looking to win huge amount of money in gambling, which then led him to addiction. His decision is fine.

The gambler who get to know their in the gambling addictions can easily recover from the gambling addictions.But if the gamblers don’t feel the impact of the loss will do the gambling after their earnings from the other sources.The gambling addicted person will do use of all the money from their earnings to the gambling till he recover the losses.Because the loss of money is not the easy one to forgot by the gamblers.They will keep the money loss in the separate sheet,So the gamblers keep the history of loss and gain in the gambling record sheet.The huge amount of loss and winning will change the gamblers attitude towards the game.
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In my opinion, winning in gambling is a pleasant addition to the game and nothing more, and losing is a natural event that is explained mathematically. If a gambler seeks only to win, then losses negatively affect him, which ultimately leads to problems.

Play for fun and when you are lucky enough to win you will be immensely pleased.
Consider the winnings from gambling as a bonus because there is no need to expect more we know how exactly luck comes uncertainly.
Yes, defeat in gambling can be considered natural because in theory gambling loses more than wins, it must be admitted about that because after all the goal is for fun in the game.

That's my own principle, where gambling should be fun, if you win a large amount of pleasure more than usual because you have earned money from the game but it's only a moment, tomorrow you might not win.

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January 08, 2024, 06:33:57 PM
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If actually he needed to stop gambling it is something he could do by himself and not to report himself to the authority and in the end the authority took away the freedom he has.
It's easy to say that he can do it on his own but many gamblers have been dealing with problem having the thought that they can do it on their own and just quit gambling as is. But no, it's not that easy at all and that's many of the addicted ones need a mentor or someone to help them quit.

The best thing to do is to remain discipline by yourself and give yourself such limitation so that in the future at any given time you could simply reverse situation or decision and everything will change good for you. I also acknowledge that it is not everyone that will be discipline to this extent so the essence of the measures that he took.
I agree that being disciplined will make you at least control yourself. You may not entirely quit on an instant but if you're that type of gambler, you have the edge to control your moves and decisions. It might be a gradual process but as long as there's a better approach that you've been doing, you'll see the impact of it.

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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I read various comments on this post and the response from the community is very mixed. well, so I'm just going to focus on what this guy did. regardless of whether this person should be banned or not allowed to play again, I tried to imagine being that person. first, this man won a fairly large amount of gambling. however, in the end what he won ran out somewhere and at the same time the man was unable to pay the rent because it was spent at the gambling table. then, it occurred to him to carry out the self-exclusion feature. usually, in this phase a person is at the lowest point in his life. I can feel it, because there are many of my friends who experience similar things but don't use the self-exception option.

This man's story continues, somehow this man can still gamble even though this man has actually asked himself to be blocked. this man should no longer be able to play or return, because the system forbids him. even in this post, he has been flagged in the self-exclusion system. but let's just assume that in the system, there are options or features that still allow it but with certain limitations. well, usually in this phase this man is actually fighting his high desire not to return to gambling again. but what can I do, in the end this man couldn't hold back his desire to return to playing even though he was restricted. perhaps, without realizing it, this man gradually followed his limits and over time he was finally able to stop his addictive activities. in the end, he was free from his problem. I can learn wisdom or essence from the story in this thread. whether true or not, but there is a story in it. yeah, this guy forbids himself with the self-exclusion feature, then he struggles even though his desires remain high and in the end his problems can be controlled. by the way, as I said above. what I said, just trying to imagine being in the situation of the man in this story from my personal version.

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January 08, 2024, 10:00:21 PM
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It's really surprising and funny how people can take so much risk and even dare to do certain things because I would personally not think of such not for a day because it's very possible the big win you have long anticipated could come after you have done the self exclusion and that will mean you. Will have to be prosecuted for such win and then you will lose your money and still suffer jail term for winning.

I don't see this approach to stoping gambling as a really wise one because it's not even going to avaiil you opportunity if you at any day or point im time get the opportunity to get something out gambling again you definitely wouldn't be able to.

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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Wut? This story completely doesn't add up. Links or it never happened  Grin

I don't know much about the Gaming Commission, or if such thing even exists on a federal level (assuming we're talking about the US), but usually gaming commissions in other countries would have zero to do with restricting (or banning) any individual players from gambling. They simply exist for the purpose of regulatory bodies overseeing the gambling industry in terms of compliance and paying all the required fees and taxes. They might force gambling businesses to provide an opt-out option for players who can't quit on their own, but that's about it.

And after getting "banned" he could still play but was capped only on winnings? There was no limit on how much he could wager/lose? How does this make any sense?

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January 08, 2024, 11:21:22 PM
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It really depends on the tolerance of each person towards gambling. I always become hook on gambling whenever I’m playing but I stop thinking about gambling after my game. The problem of people that usually get addicted was they still keep daydreaming to win big even after gambling. Continuous thinking about gambling is what makes uncontrollable that later result to addiction.

You can become hook on gambling without being addicted if you know when to stop and play.

The gambler will get the temptation most of the time after the winning in the gambling site,So the experience gambler know when to stop the game.If you keep play after the winning in the gambling site,then you are the one of the gambling addicted person in the gambling community.Because you are not control the emotions in the gambling site,the emotional decision make you to continue the game again and again.Because the loss was unacceptable one by the gambler,this was the main reason for the many gambler totally getting addicted to the gambling site.

It's really surprising and funny how people can take so much risk and even dare to do certain things because I would personally not think of such not for a day because it's very possible the big win you have long anticipated could come after you have done the self exclusion and that will mean you. Will have to be prosecuted for such win and then you will lose your money and still suffer jail term for winning.

I don't see this approach to stoping gambling as a really wise one because it's not even going to avaiil you opportunity if you at any day or point im time get the opportunity to get something out gambling again you definitely wouldn't be able to.

The gambler was mean for the risk,I had loss nearly 1500$ dollars in the gambling site.But still I do doing the gambling,because gambling site thrill was never satisfied by any game.After the loss some gamblers get addicted to the game,but I had controlled game in the gambling site.So I had my game in the gambling only if I wish to play the game.

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