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December 13, 2023, 05:45:52 PM
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Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
One thing I have discovered about footballers is that,  the have high focus and determination to win by all means,  and this determination have also been reflecting on they individual everyday life and sure this can be seen in the ways they deal with most affairs in the life daily and also on the pitch,  so yes I can say that footballing in something that it passion can be inbuilt and on can inherit that passion from the parents and environment too,  so for that,  most of the footballers are first passionate about the game and also for the fam and money involved,  so for that many who plays the game are also the fans of the games and an legally approved recreational activities to play football.

When we talk about football as leagues then we will have to mention the various clubs and their position in the leagues,  most of the time,  many of the team plays match all year through even if the season has ended,  and such for that a lot of the clubs who performed well previously will still be failing behind in current season such as we see with Real Madrid or Manchester City this season in the premier league this season compared to the last few seasons back.
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December 13, 2023, 06:05:39 PM
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Wait... maybe it's not the best adjective to apply to a club, since millions of dollars are needed as an inheritance to have a championship-winning club, it's that simple.

If it were a football heritage, all the ELP teams (e.g.) would have to win the title every year Smiley

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December 13, 2023, 06:47:19 PM
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Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
I don't really accept that football is heritage and a club that is used to losing games will always lose even though the players have the zeal of winning. In such club if money is pump into the club and and offload of players and coach is done to get new set of professional players and coach such club will be victorious.

We saw that in Manchester City after the Arab brothers took over the club, we also saw that in Chelsea when Abrahimovic of Russia took over the club and transformed it to make Chelsea among the big four today in England. So with money victory is sure and the weak club will be transformed

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December 13, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
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Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

I agree with you about the fact that football is all about a team play, the passion and ideology that drives the team helps the team to perform, even there are instances that a single player most times can inspire teams performance, we can give for example the likes of maradona who's playing pattern helped Argentina to win the world cup, and I can go ahead to give multiple number of players that have affected the team performance singlehandedly. But in winning trophies it has to do with finance, currently in world football, financial muscles of team or clubs can help to bring in superstars that can give that catalystic effect to enable clubs win trophies, so finance has a big role to play too.

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December 13, 2023, 07:14:20 PM
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Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
There's strong spirit behind football, I can't stand in position to capitalize it but I would say football is the medicine for most of the youths you see this present day. Football makes our weekend to be enjoyable and sometimes I wonder if there's no existence of football, how are we going to live up to the expectations of our current lives? Football is a game of passion, that's facts and we're the lovers of football. We watched the game with tense motions and ready to give our all for these clubs especially when our favorite club have a game to play.

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December 14, 2023, 02:37:22 AM
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It seems like there are a lot of answers from some people here that make a lot of sense about this kind of inheritance but what is certain is that it's all just about money and management.
If a team has long had sponsors who provide large payments, a team will certainly continue to be at the top because it can always bring in high quality players who can help the team continue to defend its title in a particular league and not only that, the coach also plays an important role here during This team has a good history and good finances and is certainly able to bring in experienced coaches who can provide strategies to continue to reach the top of the title every season and we take the example of what people say here, Man City or Bayern Munich, which are always favorite teams that can always be there. at the top of the standings, they dominate the league because they have fairly stable finances and can bring in high quality players and experienced coaches and like Real Madrid, which in the past always won the UCL title because they had fairly good finances and always had quality coaches in terms of experience.

however, even though there are many teams that have lost their heritage, they have now lost their glory days, such as in the EPL, Man United, Chelsea, which were known as great teams in the past, but this season are experiencing bad luck and have never won a satisfying title and it's all because they dont have even if the right coach has good finances and can bring in reliable players, the team will still not be perfect without an experienced coach.
so this legacy can only be continued by a team that has good finances and has the right coach.

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December 14, 2023, 03:30:10 AM
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Don't be too emotional or spiritual for that matter about what a football club is, they're a business that caters to the demand of the fans to have a team that represents their country, place and state. They just appeal to the emotional side of the consumers so they can get more money out of them, that's the cold hard truth about this football clubs being a part of the community, sure the players and the coaches might be in it for the camaraderie and being a part of the people that support them but the football club behind the scene, they're definitely in it for the money only.



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December 14, 2023, 03:36:43 AM
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I don't really accept that football is heritage and a club that is used to losing games will always lose even though the players have the zeal of winning. In such club if money is pump into the club and and offload of players and coach is done to get new set of professional players and coach such club will be victorious.

We saw that in Manchester City after the Arab brothers took over the club, we also saw that in Chelsea when Abrahimovic of Russia took over the club and transformed it to make Chelsea among the big four today in England. So with money victory is sure and the weak club will be transformed
Right now seems can't acceptable with football have heritage concept due many teams have revolution to modern era and try to get as much investor money, right now football is one place how to earn much profit trough business although not instant way but with acquisition with one football team will earn huge profitable in the future exactly club success won many trophies. Manchester City, Chelsea and PSG become new club revolution success won many trophies after acquisition by rich investor and make other club with a lot of history just not have good progress yet.
No doubt with the much money can bring victory for one club and success win many trophies in the future, I want to old team with full history have acceptable modern era football concept with new ownership have braveness spending much money for signing top players and get potential winning many trophies in the future.

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December 14, 2023, 09:28:31 PM
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nowadays everything has become a business, it is true that even in the past a lot of things were a business, but nowadays it has become much more aggressive, for example in football, despite many clubs having a long history since the many years they were created, Nowadays they need a lot of money to hire the best players to be able to win big tournaments. If a team has a very limited budget, then that team will hardly be able to stay in the league they are in. Of course, having a good coach helps a lot, but we have to understand that even for a team to have a good coach, the team needs to have a lot of money to pay that coach's salary.

The best players in the world don't go to a bankrupt team just because that team is 100 years old, the best players in the world go to a team that has a lot of money, has a good coach and is at the top of its league. Football nowadays is a million-dollar business in which everything that is done aims to maximize profits, the club's history no longer matters, what matters is the present and the future. see cases of teams that have a long history and are unable to win titles, look at the example of Manchester United, they are a team with a long history of existence. Now if you asked a player:

If you choose to go and play for Manchester City or Manchester United, which team would you choose to play for?

I'm sure this player would choose to play for Manchester City

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December 14, 2023, 10:06:12 PM
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Even though many of those teams failed, they still didn't stop trying to win. There may be some teams that never win, but one day, that team can win. Forming a strong team requires cohesiveness between fellow players. They must be able to overcome their egos and help each other so they can form a strong team.

Now everything has changed. Even though there are still many local players, teams can buy players easily as long as they have money. Many of them form strong teams by buying foreign players. The goal is to win.

And the presence of a coach helps to make the team's desire to win come true. The coach tries to analyze the abilities of each player and place them in their proper positions. With that spirit, the team can have opportunities to win that they never had before.

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For a sec you got me thinking about the metaphorical sense of spiritual here but you quickly brought me off-track with that "some teams are just cursed" (non-verbatim) statement you made lol. I don't think curse is what keeps them from bagging any wins or titles for that matter, and just as with any other sport in the game I think it's all a matter of skill here. On one hand you get powerhouse teams with A-list players that knew the game's very life fibers and have unlocked it with much success. On the other hand we have teams with barely any notable player, a weak lineup, and a system of play that has not worked all their lives, who do you think would win? Plus the fact that no sponsors would want to feature their products on a losing team, which severely hampers the capability of that franchise to pull other powerful players, and you get the current setting of football where the greats keep getting the Ws and the losers are left to clap for their betters.

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Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

There is some amount of truth in what you have said but I will not believe in all of that in some other cases and when we view at it at a different perspective than you. We have seen how big teams and small teams play their football and how they effect changes by signing quality players to make the team triumph.  I am still of the conviction that when a team sign a lot of quality players and have a good coach to manage them well, they will play well amidst other big teams involved that are known for always triumphing in those leagues. This issue of hereditary from one players to another in the same team is just the same as signing low quality players year by year which won’t make them deliver well in the field of field every time. This is the only hereditary that I see in all of this.

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Op if you were talking of a single person I will have obliged to your thought of reasoning but talking about a full team is unacceptably true. What evil or wrong foundation could that really be that it should follow them for century and more, that's all diabolical and psych thought in my opinion. Foot today is all about money, when money in invested in a team you see them start doing great let take arsenal for example, when Wenger was with them as manager Arsenal wasn't doing great, as Wenger refused to spend good amount of money in getting the needed players to the club, now in that circumstance would it be said that Arsenal was suffering from any curse? Howbeit now that Artheta is in charge as manager and now invested money in getting a few key players like Declan Rice you see how Arsenal are doing better both in the premiership and champions league.
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Op if you were talking of a single person I will have obliged to your thought of reasoning but talking about a full team is unacceptably true. What evil or wrong foundation could that really be that it should follow them for century and more, that's all diabolical and psych thought in my opinion. Foot today is all about money, when money in invested in a team you see them start doing great let take arsenal for example, when Wenger was with them as manager Arsenal wasn't doing great, as Wenger refused to spend good amount of money in getting the needed players to the club, now in that circumstance would it be said that Arsenal was suffering from any curse? Howbeit now that Artheta is in charge as manager and now invested money in getting a few key players like Declan Rice you see how Arsenal are doing better both in the premiership and champions league.

i am also not in favour of saying that somehow it is hereditary. but the legacy of a team can greatly affect the mood of their players. if they are known to be one of the best, they will surely aim to maintain their status quo in the sports. they will try to keep such reputation and so they are battling within themselves on how they can keep up with such status.

but in today's situation, whoever has the money can get great players. just a very good example in today's gen is christiano ronaldo who is currently with Al-Nassr FC, a Saudi Pro League club. multi-million dollars have been involved in this transfer along with lucrative benefits.

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December 14, 2023, 10:35:53 PM
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Op if you were talking of a single person I will have obliged to your thought of reasoning but talking about a full team is unacceptably true. What evil or wrong foundation could that really be that it should follow them for century and more, that's all diabolical and psych thought in my opinion. Foot today is all about money, when money in invested in a team you see them start doing great let take arsenal for example, when Wenger was with them as manager Arsenal wasn't doing great, as Wenger refused to spend good amount of money in getting the needed players to the club, now in that circumstance would it be said that Arsenal was suffering from any curse? Howbeit now that Artheta is in charge as manager and now invested money in getting a few key players like Declan Rice you see how Arsenal are doing better both in the premiership and champions league.

i am also not in favour of saying that somehow it is hereditary. but the legacy of a team can greatly affect the mood of their players. if they are known to be one of the best, they will surely aim to maintain their status quo in the sports. they will try to keep such reputation and so they are battling within themselves on how they can keep up with such status.

To maintain its status as the best club, you must be prepared to look for superior seeds who will continue the team's success, because it is not easy to get them, there must be a lot of selection that must be done. And now when a club has a lot of money it is very easy to do, just by buying the best players and collecting them then all problems are solved. But here, the role of a coach to bring in the best players who come from within the club no longer exists, even though the best players who develop from within the club will be more promising.

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Mentally inheriting a throne can happen, it is still the performance that may be different, the manager should also play an important role. Indeed, funding during the transfer market is also a supporting option, many clubs can add better performance, it is not enough to just stay in the same game, I agree that in one season it will be different both the course of the match, the potential that may turn around or injuries that cannot be predicted still the manager must anticipate. inheritance is only the spirit because different players have different execution in formation, I think the space between the lines may be corrected or can be inherited too, but no one knows when the opponent makes changes in pressing due to upgrading players either skills or new players every season.

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Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary.
It won't be that easy to pass on titles and history to be passed down from generation to generation. We have seen how several big teams used to be giant football clubs and were unbeatable, but as generations passed, this changed and actually became worse today. A real example is Man United. We are sometimes still in the euphoria of past glory, but we sometimes forget the condition of the team at the moment. We certainly always demand that the club be even more successful and be as strong as when they were successful in the past, but of course, this will not be the same. Indeed, some big clubs are still like this, as strong as ever, but it cannot be denied that there will be periods of ups and downs for these clubs.

because, football is not just about repeating history. It takes a lot of things and efforts to unite and consistently support the club so that it can be like its former glory days. because, basically, what really influences the club is not only the enthusiasm and motivation of those who used to be a giant club, but also the club's current capabilities, which include the strength and composition of the squad of players, as well as the coach's ability to manage the players and optimize them. maximally. This is what is sometimes quite difficult to do. Sometimes, a club has a lot of good players but the coach has not been able to optimize them so the results will not be as good, or vice versa. That's why there needs to be cooperation between the two, to create a strong squad strength, coupled with high motivation and good consistency throughout.

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December 14, 2023, 11:17:11 PM
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Don't be too emotional or spiritual for that matter about what a football club is, they're a business that caters to the demand of the fans to have a team that represents their country, place and state. They just appeal to the emotional side of the consumers so they can get more money out of them, that's the cold hard truth about this football clubs being a part of the community, sure the players and the coaches might be in it for the camaraderie and being a part of the people that support them but the football club behind the scene, they're definitely in it for the money only.
Heritage are for the football lovers, our love for football is weigh beyond what I can imagine, I can't afford to missed any important match providing I'm not choked up with tasks from my work place. Money does matter in the phase, everyone will do anything to ensure they're able to maintain the momentum in the space and earns quite easy money on their own paths. Football is sports and it's live and happening before our very own eyes. There's nothing like magic, we watch the top-flight actions from clubs and the players are the main cause behind the development of the players.

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December 14, 2023, 11:25:08 PM
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Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
In a competition, a team must be built with strong foundation in order to compete against other team.  Since football is a team play game, there should be a perfect blend of skills.  There should be the main, the supporting, and the decoy.  The team performance is the responsibility of the team coach since they are the ones scouting and reviewing new talents for the team.  They are also the ones providing formations and strategy.

The only reason why a team loses in games is because the team is not balanced and the coach is more probably incompetent in scouting or producing new talents for the team.  The spriit is surely passed down, but losses are not hereditary.  It all depends on the performance of the team against their opponent and it goes down to the team coaches and management.

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December 14, 2023, 11:26:25 PM
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Right, but where does passion come from anyways?
If I had to guess, I would say it is a mixture of both the engagement the fans have with the club/team and also the collection of cups and victories the club has managed to accumulate during it's existence. It is easier for a time to become a very recognized one worldwide and also perform very well if they have a trajectory and a reputation to defend in front of their people and all those who supporte them during each match.
On one hand, that makes victories so memorable and also the defeats (it comes to mind the humiliation Brazil suffered back during the World Cup of 2014 when Germany scored 7 to them).
On the other hand, the a team is considered to be irrelevant, does not have an story to defent and their people do not engage with them as much, then there is always pesimism on what there will be ahead for the team. It is something we experienced here in Venezuela, our team as always irrelevant and under-performed, untill not long ago when it started to seem to change direction, allowing new players to join. Our heritage is bad, let us see if we can build the foundations for s different future.

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