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December 14, 2023, 11:38:07 PM |
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I agree soccer is inherited in the sense a currently successful campaign will bring fruits ($$$) for the club, which will be used to invest in more skilled players, coach and management/technical team, marketing campaigns and every other resources they have under their disposal to make the team more recognized among the public. Consequently, all these actions will make the team stronger, more reputable and popular for the next generations, if they manage to do this in a frequent basis, year after year. Then, we have the called heritage.
My point is, without money, there isn't heritage, because this world revolves around money, always following its flux. So, changing the title of the thread a little bit, I would say football/soccer heritage is somehow financial, because it's through money and wealth the heritage from soccer clubs are passed from generation to generation. If you don't have this basic element, there isn't anything to pass ahead, besides old stories of great deeds, which unfortunatelly remain only in the few hearts of those who put values despised by the society above material things.
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December 14, 2023, 11:43:46 PM |
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Sponsorship and funding, followed by large finances, can be a key factor in a club. Reputation will increase as time goes by, from what they have it will certainly be very easy to gather great talents from footballers from remote areas who may have pro skills. Having good and adequate training facilities, having coaches and experts in their fields to train the players, of course this will be possible because of the money the club has or help from sponsors.
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December 14, 2023, 11:57:22 PM |
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Many people would play from a very young age to their local club, and growing up would see people helping their local club be built up from the ground up and in many cases become popular.
So the base of football as a working class sport, growing a club with little contributions for many people is what placed it close to everyone's hearts in many places. However I think that passion is kind of wearing off a little now that big capital investors are getting involved and making everything more commercialized for the big leagues. We'll see in the following decades what happens but me personally I am already a little sick with 1st leagues and their shenanigans. I'd much rather watch my team from my village play amateur game and spend my money there, knowing it would contribute to actually local people in a big way instead of counting as profit stats in a big foreign investor's pockets.
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December 15, 2023, 12:30:20 AM |
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I disagree with some others and I too agree with PSG and City examples as the biggest ones. Manchester City was a nobody team, they were a mockery, they were nobodies, the whole city of Manchester were filled with United fans, and you looked at City fans as weird people, they were very few and very rare, and not many liked them. Then one day, some rich person bought it, and put great players in it and now they are one of the best teams ever in that league, they are breaking records that are decades long. Same with PSG, they were not nobodies as much as City, but the were not good at all, Lyon ruled the entire Ligue 1, then some rich person bought it and now PSG wins every year and Lyon tries to survive and not get relegated. Heritage doesn't matter as much as money does, football is now a money thing, the richer you are the more success you will get, irregardless of your past.
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December 15, 2023, 12:42:06 AM |
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Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
As much as your point might not be far from reality, I also believe it has to do with the coach and the management system. A skillful coach has much impact on a team irrespective of what the history must have been. Another factor will be the mindset of the players and the degree of big picture they have in terms of winning. If a team has a mentality of winning, its rare for them to be loosing matches, they might start out loosing but gradually, they'll start winning.
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Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end. I once believed that, because at least in my country (Brazil) there was a time when football players loved their favorite team... they graduated from youth teams, became professionals and won titles for that team until the moment when they retired. However, currently this no longer exists... players change teams and countries simply for money or better future conditions, they are no longer worried about which team they are playing for. We can say the same thing about club directors, once this was passed down for generations between the same family or close community, but nowadays it is normal to see teams being sold to anyone willing to pay a lot of money.
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December 15, 2023, 09:17:04 AM |
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Sponsorship and funding, followed by large finances, can be a key factor in a club. Reputation will increase as time goes by, from what they have it will certainly be very easy to gather great talents from footballers from remote areas who may have pro skills. Having good and adequate training facilities, having coaches and experts in their fields to train the players, of course this will be possible because of the money the club has or help from sponsors.
Reputation and history of one team will increase slowly depend have any teams get large financial after acquisition by richest investor, best football teams need balance with their income and outcome trough sponsorship and funding how to make manager easily can sign many top player every window transfer opening. Some time have huge money will build up good training facilities and help their youth players can promote to senior teams as club investment in the future, when players from academy has impressive performance their values will suddenly increasing up and give much profitable for club how to get stable financial condition. All european teams has good training facilities and many of them invested much money with their infrastructure as their investment way in the future how to get top youth player from academy promoting.
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December 15, 2023, 09:26:42 AM |
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Football indeed is a game of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
Football has gone beyond passion, its now mostly about who has the highest money to finance the affairs of their club. Money isn't working for some clubs as they didn't spend the money wisely but those who have the right team and money will win in football. What makes teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid some of the most successful clubs in the world is as a result of the money they had access to, with money they could sign the best talents. Since Barcelona has been bankrupt, they have dropped in form and since Manchester city got acquired by the Saudis they have been doing very well in the Premier League. If your club don't have money to compete with the big clubs in the transfer markets, they won't be able the get good talents into the club and the home grown players won't be able to compete with other big clubs for the title. Football heritage has a role to play but not as much as money now do.
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This is Sports Discussion but I don't think we have such a thing in the forum. This has nothing to do with gambling at all.
You are right though. Football has grown today and many fans are watching it. I am not sure about the hereditary thing but I think it's more of a tradition thing. But there's a sad truth about football too, some countries cannot join in because they are not supported by their government and it's difficult to climb the top level if there's no field to play.
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Football indeed is a game of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. It is not only football that is considered a game of passion to winning but all sorts of games that is segmented to teaming as oppositions during a tournament or competitions that a winning and a loosing is expected at a final round. Although football is a unique nature of game also considered as a most famous sports which has optimized the interest of its audiences with the highest capacities of fans who are emotionally controlled by the winning interests of their supporting teams or clubs. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come.
I agree with you that the root and foundation of a football matters because football is basically and strictly a game of formations and strategical analysis on how to bypass the opposite teams with a mapped out algorithm which fundamentally to engage each of the players connectively with a co. team player so as to achieve their goals to victimize their oppositions in the football pitch. Most important resources for victorious endivoirs of the football depends on the relationships between the team coach and the players. If the coach is sentimental with the players then the players could decide to give an unfair play basically considering to term the coach incapable to profer the team/Club with better formations to gain winning victory so the coach is literally expected to form a friendly relationship with the players so as to eradicate the entire team with a basic portfolio of oneness one victory. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
No I don't believe football is hereditary as said @ OP. A football team could maintain a winning roles in a period of time but if not update to reforming its team then an aside considered a lossed team is liable to take that chances to restrategise its strategies in other to distabilize your own strategies which gained you victory formally. It is important to restrategizing and reforming on each tournaments or competitions so as to also to distabilize your oppositions expectations. This is to say that you could be planning some kind of reliable formations While the oppositions formations is going stronger than what you expected. Football is of no form of heredity instead a strong hood of a club or team can maintain a winning to a certain periods of time else they should have the winning portfolio held back to back which I can bet that there had been no football team or club that has hold a particular league champion on captive.
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Op if you were talking of a single person I will have obliged to your thought of reasoning but talking about a full team is unacceptably true. What evil or wrong foundation could that really be that it should follow them for century and more, that's all diabolical and psych thought in my opinion. Foot today is all about money, when money in invested in a team you see them start doing great let take arsenal for example, when Wenger was with them as manager Arsenal wasn't doing great, as Wenger refused to spend good amount of money in getting the needed players to the club, now in that circumstance would it be said that Arsenal was suffering from any curse? Howbeit now that Artheta is in charge as manager and now invested money in getting a few key players like Declan Rice you see how Arsenal are doing better both in the premiership and champions league.
i am also not in favour of saying that somehow it is hereditary. but the legacy of a team can greatly affect the mood of their players. if they are known to be one of the best, they will surely aim to maintain their status quo in the sports. they will try to keep such reputation and so they are battling within themselves on how they can keep up with such status. That one is a common thing that any club must be expected to do. No team want to move from grace to grass so they have to keep and maintain the legacy by performing fine to write their own history on the legacy of the team's past legends if possible do even better than they did. But saying a team known for its bad performance for decades since it's inception I doubt new players coming into the club will want or be happy to keep such legacy, they can play better to change the team's history as it was known. Sometimes a new owner can come in and change everything about the team by signing quality players and with time that team be doing great in competition's winning trophies like never before. Roman Abramovich the former owner of Chelsea is a simple example here when he got into Chelsea everything about the club changed for good.
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OP I think we should look into this aspect of football investment and sponsorship as a factor too because I really do not see anything spirituality in it. If a club have good and willing investors to bankroll their activities tell me why would they not go get good players. Money is also involved when it comes to maintenance and sustenance of clubs and players. There is no form of spirituality involved but rather commitment and development. Players are always ready to go for the highest bidder when it comes to football business and this counts because they put in their efforts, skills together with their passion for their work to get the club at the peak.
If you think that this your postulations are very much correct I will implore you to give us instances and clubs this occurrences took place to vindicate your claims.
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December 15, 2023, 07:48:25 PM |
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OP I think we should look into this aspect of football investment and sponsorship as a factor too because I really do not see anything spirituality in it. If a club have good and willing investors to bankroll their activities tell me why would they not go get good players. Money is also involved when it comes to maintenance and sustenance of clubs and players. There is no form of spirituality involved but rather commitment and development. Players are always ready to go for the highest bidder when it comes to football business and this counts because they put in their efforts, skills together with their passion for their work to get the club at the peak.
If you think that this your postulations are very much correct I will implore you to give us instances and clubs this occurrences took place to vindicate your claims.
Yes I agree with you, there is nothing spiritual in football. Fine it's a game of passion, but also a business. Every football club in a league has the potential of winning the league title if they have the right investors, who are committed to the club and are to build world class facilities and approach the right players and a world class coach why won't they win the league? Success is a deliberate and not by accident.
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December 15, 2023, 09:34:23 PM |
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Football indeed is a game of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss.
It is not only football that is considered a game of passion to winning but all sorts of games that is segmented to teaming as oppositions during a tournament or competitions that a winning and a loosing is expected at a final round. Although football is a unique nature of game also considered as a most famous sports which has optimized the interest of its audiences with the highest capacities of fans who are emotionally controlled by the winning interests of their supporting teams or clubs. Many sports, not just football, indeed raise emotions and foster a sense of competition during tournaments and competitions. The appearing of opposing teams, the anticipation of a final outcome, and the highs and lows of winning and losing are elements shared by a multitude of sports. The broad spectrum of games instills passion and Football has carved a special place in the hearts of fans worldwide, It is boasting an unparalleled fanbase. The emotional investment of fans, who are deeply connected to the success of their favorite teams or clubs, contributes to the uniqueness of football. The global appeal and cultural significance of football make it a powerful medium that transcends borders and brings people together. The emotional rollercoaster experienced by fans, from the thrill of win to the disappointment of defeat, showcases the profound impact that football can have on people and communities. It paints a broader picture of the shared human experience in the world of sports.
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Yes I agree with you, there is nothing spiritual in football. Fine it's a game of passion, but also a business. Every football club in a league has the potential of winning the league title if they have the right investors, who are committed to the club and are to build world class facilities and approach the right players and a world class coach why won't they win the league? Success is a deliberate and not by accident.
Football is a game of passion, everyone have their own club they tender their supports, and everyone have a choice to choose the club they like to partner with. Sometimes I wonder how this life will be without football. Succeeding in football, a club needs to have the basic necessities, more like promising players and also an experienced coach that can take the club's level to another. Football clubs exist for growth, they have top investors and partners that shared the club's expenditures and takes active part in the development of the club.
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Well I can say that it is a very good way of how you see Fútbol , I have always seen it that way because football is the King of sport , it is the sport that always makes you feel very good even though we practice it, in the teams. famous soccer players, there is a Saying that when you get used to playing and winning, you should always win , because it is something that will Always not make you feel good, and as long as that winning spirit is maintained, the level of the team will always It will be very high, because they know that it is a legacy , a Legacy that they can never let fall, under any type of circumstance, and now even though the Circumstances in life are Different , it is very obvious that things when they are not quite simple like playing and having fun you have to be Accompanied by gnar, for everything I always say, you Should do what you like most , Footballers have the most beautiful job in the World, they have big Salaries , they Have Great Things to do and they will always do their best for having more victories.
The fans are something that a team can always have, make them show it so that they have a better sense of Playing , of doing things so that they can please the fans , and something simple , but the people, the players, do it with all their Effort, passionate world can't make a difference, it's something simple , as we play on any team, we as amateurs, we do it because we love it, because in the end if there are no fights, there will be new friends, That's the great thing about football, in the big teams around the world things are like that, so we have to pay attention to everything that a particular team can give us, the joys it gives us , for Example I am a fan of Real Madrid, and it is a complete team, winner, whatever it may be, even if it Loses, one supports it , the Local team of our Land , also , When the National team of our Country plays, it is as if we Wanted to Play because we Believe we Can do it Plus, all that is what you should see
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Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
I would say the same goes on other sports and leagues. It's not hereditary in general as sports are just invented and not naturally occur, but rather these athletes were early involved in that sport in their youth that's why while growing up, they used to know everything about that sport. I understand your point where a certain losing team remains consistently loser even counting for several years or decades. It's like these bad luck is being passed by next generation and will remain there for long. But in reality, it's impossible that the losing spirit will not be broke soon. Someday, a good team will rise from that losing team and will change the bad image into a good one.
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December 16, 2023, 07:03:49 PM |
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During this period of December when many people in my country are on vacation from school and work, when I go out on the streets I see many people playing football, children and young people and adults are playing football on the roads and on the football fields, It's something very beautiful to see, because they sometimes play on the roads. but this shows how football is the most popular sport in the world and therefore older teams have bigger fans and consequently have a greater number of fans who make donations to the team and who also fill the team's football stadium. So these teams that have been around for over 50 years have a long history
but the fact that a team has been around for many years does not mean that that same team will be successful, it does not mean that that team will constantly win titles, and this can currently be seen more easily when looking at the performance and achievements that teams that were bought by the rich how are they doing. Nowadays football has become more competitive to the point where teams are forced to invest a lot of money if they want to achieve great things, and teams that don't have money cannot achieve great things, unfortunately money has become more important in the world of sport. things like inheritance you're talking about don't work anymore
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December 16, 2023, 07:14:49 PM |
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Football has gone beyond passion, its now mostly about who has the highest money to finance the affairs of their club. Money isn't working for some clubs as they didn't spend the money wisely but those who have the right team and money will win in football. What makes teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid some of the most successful clubs in the world is as a result of the money they had access to, with money they could sign the best talents.
Since Barcelona has been bankrupt, they have dropped in form and since Manchester city got acquired by the Saudis they have been doing very well in the Premier League. If your club don't have money to compete with the big clubs in the transfer markets, they won't be able the get good talents into the club and the home grown players won't be able to compete with other big clubs for the title. Football heritage has a role to play but not as much as money now do.
Unfortunately that's true, and we can still call it "passion" because all those rich people who buy clubs and spend hundreds of millions for the club are doing it because they want to make sure that their team does great, and that's a sort of passion as well. I like to give example of Wrexham, the movie star Ryan Reynolds and the tv star Rob Mcellheney (not sure how it's spelled) bought that club, and it's true that they have spent some good chunk of money to bring them back to football pyramid, that's good and great, and lovely to see. Could you say that Ryan Reynolds have absolutely no connection to Wrexham? I mean feels like we are talking about a situation that doesn't look all that fine to me, they are very very much invested in that team not just by money, but their passion as well.
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December 16, 2023, 07:25:32 PM |
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Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
Are you referring to Arsenal? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I think this is just a myth, there are teams that have won the league from nowhere, and there are others that keep doing well even when new players join them, and that is because of the high standard that has already been set in the club. If any small team will do well, the standard of the team needs to be raised, either by a new manager who has a standard and demands more from the players, or an influential player with high standard who joins the team and influences other players to raise their standards.
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