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December 15, 2023, 02:05:59 AM
Last edit: January 03, 2024, 02:42:08 AM by alegotardo
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The "Brasileirão" doesn't stop never for us, so it's never too early to open the new Brasileirão 2024 topic, which should only start on April 14th Grin

We will have something new in this new season, as the CBF declared that they will start the championship with a "commemorative match" Huh, but the rest will remain the same... 20 teams will face each other during 38 matches that will be divided into two rounds.

Here's the possible future champions:
     Athletico Paranaense
     Atlético Goianiense (moved up)
     Atlético Mineiro
     Bahia
     Botafogo
     Corinthians
     Criciúma (moved ub)
     Cruzeiro
     Cuiabá
     Flamengo
     Fluminense
     Fortaleza
     Grêmio
     International
     Juventude (moved ub)
     Palmeiras (last champion)
     Red Bull Bragantino
     São Paulo
     Vasco
     Vitória (moved ub)

Until the championship starts, we will discuss movements between players and coaches from the clubs above.

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I am updating thIS OP with information about the Brazilian Women's Football Championship (Women's Brasileirão), which will start on March 17th with the following teams:

  • América Mineiro
  • Atlético Mineiro
  • Avaí/Kindermann
  • Botafogo
  • Corinthians (last champion)
  • Cruzeiro
  • Ferroviária
  • Flamengo
  • Fluminense
  • Grêmio
  • Internacional
  • Palmeiras
  • Real Brasília
  • Red Bull Bragantino
  • Santos
  • São Paulo

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December 15, 2023, 03:32:20 AM
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Campeonato Brasileiro is an annual competition for the Brazilian football team and this competition is quite popular and is one of the best competitions there. Although outside Brazil the Brasileirao competition is not that popular but for the Brazilian team this is an opportunity for them to compete for the annual title.
Palmeiras is the only most successful team with the most titles, namely 11 titles, and Palmeiras also won 2022 and 2023 Brasileirao or last season.
Palmeiras still seems to have chance as candidate to defend the title and can add to their record of success in the Brasileirao and of course with this success they can also prove that they are one of the strongest team.
After experiencing setbacks, in the last few seasons Palmeiras has succeeded in making changes and proving that their development has really produced results in winning the title.
They even managed to reach the final of the Supercopa do Brasil which will take place in early February against Sao Paulo FC.

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Last season have one thing ironic with Brazilian Championship Serie A, one teams have a lot of history Santos have relegated to Brazil Serie B, its not good thing for teams success promoting many top players from Pele until Neymar but they have relegated to Brazil Serie B for season 2024. Palmeiras is the last season winner teams and I have little update with this teams after Real Madrid announcing signed Endrick from Palmeiras, he was become super star and helped Palmeiras winning domestic league with his contributing 11 goals of 31 matches.
Little sad he will leaves Palmeiras and joined with Real Madrid on June, seems he will play as several matches only for season 2024.

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December 17, 2023, 06:37:39 PM
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Last season have one thing ironic with Brazilian Championship Serie A, one teams have a lot of history Santos have relegated to Brazil Serie B, its not good thing for teams success promoting many top players from Pele until Neymar but they have relegated to Brazil Serie B for season 2024. Palmeiras is the last season winner teams and I have little update with this teams after Real Madrid announcing signed Endrick from Palmeiras, he was become super star and helped Palmeiras winning domestic league with his contributing 11 goals of 31 matches.
Little sad he will leaves Palmeiras and joined with Real Madrid on June, seems he will play as several matches only for season 2024.

In fact, this is a reality that Santos is not used to facing... and now comes the financial problem because by being eliminated from the main category of the Brasileirão and also the "Copa do Brasil", Santos will face financial chaos in 2024 because it does not have incentives from sponsors and advertising space on television. I'm glad Pelé is no longer alive to witness this sadness from Santos fans... he really doesn't deserve it.

Also speaking of Palmeiras... I just read that they are already continuing with Mayke's contract renewal until 2025. Will they keep most of their good players for the new season in order to win a few more titles? I believe that money is not a problem for Palmeiras, so I doubt they will get rid of many players.

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I have no doubt... but Brazilian Championship Serie A in 2024 will be different, because it is not every year that a team like Santos is relegated to Serie B.

I even think that one of the main factors that made Santos situation worse was having drawn and lost the last games of that championship, if they had performed better in this last games of Brasileirao, I'm sure they would have been in Serie A, but didn't happen

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December 26, 2023, 10:03:56 PM
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I have no doubt... but Brazilian Championship Serie A in 2024 will be different, because it is not every year that a team like Santos is relegated to Serie B.

I even think that one of the main factors that made Santos situation worse was having drawn and lost the last games of that championship, if they had performed better in this last games of Brasileirao, I'm sure they would have been in Serie A, but didn't happen


It's the first time Santos will play in the Brazilian B series  Cheesy
It's a fact that Santos fans used to boast about, that they had never been relegated and that big teams never got relegated  Grin
Unfortunately it happened
In 38 games Santos only won 11 times, a campaign worthy of relegation indeed

But it should be short. The team will certainly restructure itself, play against weaker opponents and have a great chance of qualifying for Serie A again and even becoming Serie B champions in 2024



This season I managed to get the champion right, I'm going to try this long bet again, but only when there's one day left until the start of the championship. I still need to watch the teams, watch the states championship, find out who will be signed for the teams, etc.

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December 27, 2023, 12:06:25 AM
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It's the first time Santos will play in the Brazilian B series  Cheesy
So we need to look on the bright side of history... Santos will finally have the chance to win an unprecedented title: First place in the second division of the Brazilian championship.


Speaking of Internacional... I read today that the promise for 2024 is to focus 100% on the Brasileirão so that maybe we can break the 45-year fast without winning that title.
The promise is to carry out a very aggressive campaign with an investment of up to 9 million euros in acquiring players in all sectors of the team and providing the coach with several options.

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Yes, i algo agrere with that and like what you said, there is always a first time!
But Santos made several mistakes, I confess it was incredible, they just needed to win the last game, but they lost to Fortaleza.
Another possibility was If Santos had at least drawn that last game and Bahia had also drawn... Bahia would have been relegated to Serie B and Santos would have remained in Serie A, but that didn't happen.

Another team that narrowly missed being relegated to Serie B was Cruzeiro, but in the last few games the team "woke up" and performed relatively well compared to the rest of the season.

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So, I remembered now...
In the Brasileirão we also have a women's league that is gaining a lot of prominence and praise, as the quality of their football is enough to impress many men.
In this sense, I am updating the OP with information about the women's championship, which will start on March 17th with the following teams:

  • América Mineiro
  • Atlético Mineiro
  • Avaí/Kindermann
  • Botafogo
  • Corinthians
  • Cruzeiro
  • Ferroviária
  • Flamengo
  • Fluminense
  • Grêmio
  • Internacional
  • Palmeiras
  • Real Brasília
  • Red Bull Bragantino
  • Santos
  • São Paulo

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Recently I was researching and analyzing the Brazilian Championship (aka Brasileirão) in the year 2024 and I found some relevant points that I would like to share in this topic.

Well, this has indeed become true and in this year's championship the CBF (Brazilian Football Confederation) will hold an opening match and not a full round as is currently the case.
Possibly the main idea is to hold this debut match with last year's Brasileirao champion (Palmeiras) against another team that has a large fan base (I believe Flamengo or Corinthians could be those teams).

Look, I confess this is something interesting and that it never happened in the Brasileirao, perhaps this type of change could give more visibility and notoriety to this year's of Brazilian Championship.

By the way... below I will share the calendar of the national football championships that will take place in Brazil in 2024.

Dates of national championships held by the CBF (Confederação Brasileira de Futebol // Brazilian Football Confederation) in 2024:

  • Brazilian Cup: 21/02 - 10/11
  • Brazilian Championship (Brasileirão Serie A): 14/04 - 08/12
  • Brazilian Championship (Brasileirão Serie B): 04/20 - 11/26
  • Brazilian Championship (Brasileirão Serie C): 21/04 - 20/10
  • Brazilian Championship (Brasileirão Serie D): 21/04 - 29/09
  • Brazilian Super Cup: 03/02

Source: https://www.cbf.com.br/futebol-brasileiro/noticias/index/campeonato-brasileiro-2024-tera-pela-primeira-vez-jogo-de-abertura

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January 03, 2024, 10:55:45 AM
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Well, this has indeed become true and in this year's championship the CBF (Brazilian Football Confederation) will hold an opening match and not a full round as is currently the case.
Possibly the main idea is to hold this debut match with last year's Brasileirao champion (Palmeiras) against another team that has a large fan base (I believe Flamengo or Corinthians could be those teams).

Look, I confess this is something interesting and that it never happened in the Brasileirao, perhaps this type of change could give more visibility and notoriety to this year's of Brazilian Championship.

This opening match is sure to attract more attention, to have a full stadium and full media attention, since it will only be 1 game
And it will be on April 13th
I also believe that it will be Palmeiras vs Flamengo, it makes more sense to have a match between the champion (from the state of São Paulo) and the team with the biggest fans (from the state of Rio de Janeiro) Flamengo, it will certainly fill the stadium and give a lot of audience. There are Flamengo fans all over Brazil  Shocked

So, I remembered now...
In the Brasileirão we also have a women's league that is gaining a lot of prominence and praise, as the quality of their football is enough to impress many men.
In this sense, I am updating the OP with information about the women's championship, which will start on March 17th with the following teams:

It's very good that the women's league is gaining attention, with more games being broadcast, more sponsors and more teams joining women's soccer. It's a good opportunity, especially for younger women, to have a chance to earn money from soccer, something that was practically impossible until a few years ago.

I don't know if there will be betting on women's soccer. Last year I placed several bets on the World Cup, but I don't remember seeing the Brazilian championship

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January 03, 2024, 12:26:37 PM
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Well, this has indeed become true and in this year's championship the CBF (Brazilian Football Confederation) will hold an opening match and not a full round as is currently the case.
Possibly the main idea is to hold this debut match with last year's Brasileirao champion (Palmeiras) against another team that has a large fan base (I believe Flamengo or Corinthians could be those teams).

Look, I confess this is something interesting and that it never happened in the Brasileirao, perhaps this type of change could give more visibility and notoriety to this year's of Brazilian Championship.

This opening match is sure to attract more attention, to have a full stadium and full media attention, since it will only be 1 game
And it will be on April 13th
I also believe that it will be Palmeiras vs Flamengo, it makes more sense to have a match between the champion (from the state of São Paulo) and the team with the biggest fans (from the state of Rio de Janeiro) Flamengo, it will certainly fill the stadium and give a lot of audience. There are Flamengo fans all over Brazil  Shocked

Yes, that's a fact! I'm sure this will bring more visibility to the Brazilian Championship (Brasileirao). They adopted this type of championship/opening start inspired by some leagues in the United States!

Another interesting point that was disclosed is that Ednaldo Rodrigues (president of CBF - Brazilian Football Confederation) will make some stoppages of the Brasileirao during the FIFA dates, having as a result to not coincide the dates of others official FIFA championships with the dates of the Brasileirao games, therefore, several players will be able to play in several championships without committing or prioritizing a particular game during the year.

Well... a question I'm asking myself... what is the possible team that will play this opening game against Palmeiras? Does something concrete already exist? Or are they just rumors? And what will be the stadium for this opening game? Possibly Maracana or Allianz Parque? Or are there other plausible options? That's my question!

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Another interesting point that was disclosed is that Ednaldo Rodrigues (president of CBF - Brazilian Football Confederation) will make some stoppages of the Brasileirao during the FIFA dates, having as a result to not coincide the dates of others official FIFA championships with the dates of the Brasileirao games, therefore, several players will be able to play in several championships without committing or prioritizing a particular game during the year.

Well... a question I'm asking myself... what is the possible team that will play this opening game against Palmeiras? Does something concrete already exist? Or are they just rumors? And what will be the stadium for this opening game? Possibly Maracana or Allianz Parque? Or are there other plausible options? That's my question!


The stoppages in the Brazilian championship are following the FIFA agenda, just like in other countries
In Brazil nowadays there's a different situation than there was years ago, several foreigners playing here, Argentinians, Uruguayans, Paraguayans etc, so I think it's a trend and the right thing to do

I remember seeing somewhere that last year there were 130 foreigners in the Brazilian league A, including players and coaches

About the opening match
As I said in the previous post, I'm betting on Palmeiras vs Flamengo at the Allianz Arena (Palmeiras' stadium)

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after Botafogo was embarrassed last season, I hope this season they don't stay at the top of the table in the first games, that would only make many people laugh at them and poor Botafogo fans who would have to relive the sad memory that Botafogo was very distant of all teams and at the end of the league they finished below first and second place. Predicting now who will win Brasileirao is a very difficult task, even when the games start it will be very difficult to predict who will be the winner, during the season I was watching Palmeiras, but then I changed my mind and started watching Botafogo, but then I changed my ideals and started seeing palm trees.

for this season, first I need to see the squad of each team, then I want to see the first 5 games of each team, only then will I have an idea of how each team has been doing and what the potential of each team is and which team has the greatest chances of win the league. I hope that in this new season Flamengo will be a strong team capable of winning the league. I haven't had time yet to see how much change Flamengo has already made or if they have plans to make them so that they stay strong enough to win the title. They could have won the title last season if they had been a consistent team that won every game. but unfortunately they didn't manage to win the league, I hope this new season will be different

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after Botafogo was embarrassed last season, I hope this season they don't stay at the top of the table in the first games, that would only make many people laugh at them and poor Botafogo fans who would have to relive the sad memory that Botafogo was very distant of all teams and at the end of the league they finished below first and second place.

So... I believe the opposite, Botafogo needs to surprise its fans by winning as many results as it can. This will not bring sadness to the players, but rather demonstrate that the team managed to reorganize itself and that it is capable of returning to the main category and being among the first in the following season (2025).

In addition to the Brasileirão, its important to remember that Botafogo can also achieve other achievements this year that will excite their fans, starting with the "Campeonato Carioca" which starts later this month, there is also the "Copa do Brasil" and the "Pre-Libertadores".

I believe that Botafogo can organize its team and think about winning titles... The "Carioca" (state) championship is possible to achieve, and with a good restructuring of the team its possible to also think about greater achievements for this year. Wink

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The stoppages in the Brazilian championship are following the FIFA agenda, just like in other countries
In Brazil nowadays there's a different situation than there was years ago, several foreigners playing here, Argentinians, Uruguayans, Paraguayans etc, so I think it's a trend and the right thing to do

I remember seeing somewhere that last year there were 130 foreigners in the Brazilian league A, including players and coaches

About the opening match
As I said in the previous post, I'm betting on Palmeiras vs Flamengo at the Allianz Arena (Palmeiras' stadium)

These are valid observations...
In fact, it is very advantageous and interesting for the Brazilian team to adopt these breaks/stoppages  in accordance with FIFA's agenda, I believe that everyone (or almost everyone) will benefit, staff, players, teams, fans and others.

If we analyze the opening game, I also agree with you, the most likely to happen will be the game between Flamengo x Palmeiras.

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In addition to the Brasileirão, its important to remember that Botafogo can also achieve other achievements this year that will excite their fans, starting with the "Campeonato Carioca" which starts later this month, there is also the "Copa do Brasil" and the "Pre-Libertadores".

I believe that Botafogo can organize its team and think about winning titles... The "Carioca" (state) championship is possible to achieve, and with a good restructuring of the team its possible to also think about greater achievements for this year. Wink

Botafogo should at least have qualified directly for the Libertadores, but the second half of the championship was really difficult for them
I don't know what to think of Botafogo yet, I need to see them play with the changes they've made to the team, the Carioca championship could be a good one to watch and analyze better

At the same time as being an excellent team, which led the league and finished in 5th place, it's also the same team that had one of the worst campaigns in the second round, so it's still a mystery for me (for us)
I would stay away from any bet involving Botafogo  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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Is it too early to say Palmeiras will win once again? Cheesy

Betting houses are considering Flamengo as the favorite to win Brasileirão 2024. Palmeiras comes in second place and Atlético-MG in third. They might know something we don't, but it seems unreasonable to put Flamengo as favorite when Palmeiras remains unbeatable and getting stronger season after season. There aren't significant changes in Palmeiras team to consider they shouldn't be the favorite anymore.

They have proven to deliver a stable performance even in very unfavourable and uncertain conditions, like it happened last year with Botafogo dominating the champioship for a long time. Despite this fact, Palmeiras didn't get unsettled and bounced back in the end.

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Is it too early to say Palmeiras will win once again? Cheesy

Betting houses are considering Flamengo as the favorite to win Brasileirão 2024. Palmeiras comes in second place and Atlético-MG in third. They might know something we don't, but it seems unreasonable to put Flamengo as favorite when Palmeiras remains unbeatable and getting stronger season after season. There aren't significant changes in Palmeiras team to consider they shouldn't be the favorite anymore.

They have proven to deliver a stable performance even in very unfavourable and uncertain conditions, like it happened last year with Botafogo dominating the champioship for a long time. Despite this fact, Palmeiras didn't get unsettled and bounced back in the end.
I confess this is an interesting question but this could happen lol

Lately, Palmeiras, in addition to being an excellent team, has been consistent and this is one of the main factors that make it one of this year's favorite teams.
But I have no doubt that he could finish the championship in the top 3 or top 5, there is a high possibility of that happening.

Another possible team, that could be champion is Gremio, in the last year of Brasileirão they finished in second place, analyzing from this perspective, they also have a chance of being the champion of this season of Brasileirão.

An interesting variable that I would like to share and that can be very useful are trades, this is an important factor that will decide the future of the Brasileirao teams.


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Is it too early to say Palmeiras will win once again? Cheesy

Betting houses are considering Flamengo as the favorite to win Brasileirão 2024. Palmeiras comes in second place and Atlético-MG in third. They might know something we don't, but it seems unreasonable to put Flamengo as favorite when Palmeiras remains unbeatable and getting stronger season after season. There aren't significant changes in Palmeiras team to consider they shouldn't be the favorite anymore.

They have proven to deliver a stable performance even in very unfavourable and uncertain conditions, like it happened last year with Botafogo dominating the champioship for a long time. Despite this fact, Palmeiras didn't get unsettled and bounced back in the end.

Yeap!

So... last season Botafogo led the championship from the third round until the thirty-third, so I honestly don't want to bet on any champion for this 2024 season, at least until the middle of the championship.
We already know that the main Brazilian football championship is the most competitive and difficult in the world, and we also know that being champion in the last season does not guarantee good results in the following season.... unlike the European championships, there are no pre-defined favorites in the Brazilian championship, every year we have a surprise.

Who will win?
Let's leave this question and answer for a few months, maybe!?

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