Pay discrimination

[summonerrk]

There has always been a huge difference in the pay scale between the white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor wherein the later one put in more effort physically and do more hardwork than the earlier one.

Should there be market correction done for skilled labors?

Some will say that an white collar employee is more mentally drained out hence they deserve better pay but people who do menial job stop working the world will just rot as everything cannot be done but robots and AI.

It's sometimes sad to see how they are treated disrespectfully, be it a waiter, delivery workers, cab drivers, carpenter, or construction workers as they are the pillars and without them things will start falling apart. I know some of these can be automated but not everything.

I've been a blue collar worker and a white collar worker, in different fields, big campaigns and small ones, public and private, and I can tell you all about it.
The fact is that, as a rule, white-collar workers are so well qualified that they can easily replace blue-collar workers, but they don’t want to. And this is even though their salaries are often the same. But who would want to go to work to be physically exhausted when they can sit at a computer in the office and drink coffee? Yes, sometimes your head hurts from duties and responsibilities, but it's worth it. Moreover, if you are a smart person, you can easily move from blue to white collars, you just need to show management that you don’t give a damn about the work you do.

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[DYING_S0UL]

I think everyone should be treated equally weather it's white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor. It doesn't matter. But the sad truth is it doesn't happen. People are treated differently based on their colors and race or jobs. No job is ever small. Those who thinks that being a waiter, a delivery workers, a cab drivers, carpenter, or construction worker is lowly jobs and don't deserves respects are fools. Our life is so comfortable because of them, because of their hardworking mindset.

[Bushdark]

I think everyone should be treated equally weather it's white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor. It doesn't matter. But the sad truth is it doesn't happen. People are treated differently based on their colors and race or jobs. No job is ever small. Those who thinks that being a waiter, a delivery workers, a cab drivers, carpenter, or construction worker is lowly jobs and don't deserves respects are fools. Our life is so comfortable because of them, because of their hardworking mindset.

The discrimination had been there for a long time even before now and I don't think this would ever stop but we still hope for the better.
People are treated based on there pocket, the value in the society, and level of education. This many of these factors had been in place before now, it will still continue and for that reason we don't have options than to adhere and they as much as possible to I crease our level of education and our value in the society.

[HONDACD125]

There has always been a huge difference in the pay scale between the white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor wherein the later one put in more effort physically and do more hardwork than the earlier one.

Should there be market correction done for skilled labors?

Some will say that an white collar employee is more mentally drained out hence they deserve better pay but people who do menial job stop working the world will just rot as everything cannot be done but robots and AI.

It's sometimes sad to see how they are treated disrespectfully, be it a waiter, delivery workers, cab drivers, carpenter, or construction workers as they are the pillars and without them things will start falling apart. I know some of these can be automated but not everything.

I think the white collar workers are recruited for blue collar workers.Look at any company or factory where the technical people do whatever work they do, there is an account and admin section, and white collar workers sit there, but their job is not to run the factory or company, they sit for the employees who run the factory. How does a white-collar employee work more mentally?  blue-collar workers who perform their duties in the hot sun and cold deserve more pay than them.

 Every person is working according to his ability.If everyone starts doing white collar jobs, then who will do our daily routine work. As many technical people as we need around us, they certainly deserve respect. I strongly believe that there may be differences in positions, benefits and salaries, but respect is equal for all. No one has the right to look down on anyone.

[tjtonmoy]

If they don't have what you want, don't listen to what they have to say. There's no greater waste of time than to justify your actions to people who have a life that you don't want. The more value you bring to yourself the more money you will make in the long run. There are people with same skills and some of them are better. If you want to be the best you will have to find what is missing in them and make it even better. That's how you get paid more.
But with the current world's situation, it is really hard to find an opportunity and use it to your advantage. The competition is just too high. Well you are thinking of something someone out there is already working on it to make it happen. If you don't create a gap between pay rate, value of the work becomes less. For this reason many will not be willing to work anymore there and try to find something better. But the gap shouldn't be so huge that it does not value the workers who are working hard to make it happen. There should be a healthy balance between them.

[South Park]

I think everyone should be treated equally weather it's white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor. It doesn't matter. But the sad truth is it doesn't happen. People are treated differently based on their colors and race or jobs. No job is ever small. Those who thinks that being a waiter, a delivery workers, a cab drivers, carpenter, or construction worker is lowly jobs and don't deserves respects are fools. Our life is so comfortable because of them, because of their hardworking mindset.

When it comes to treating every single worker with respect I agree, any job no matter how small it may seem to the eyes of others is something we need to run our society, if not then no one will pay you for it, so it is wrong to treat those people with disrespect just because your job may pay you more, however it is going to be very difficult for people to treat everyone equally when it comes to their jobs, as we know that a doctor took a massive amount of effort and skill to get their job, while they also save lives, so it is natural they are more respected than most professions and in some cases they are even treated with reverence.

[Promocodeudo]

There has always been a huge difference in the pay scale between the white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor wherein the later one put in more effort physically and do more hardwork than the earlier one.

Should there be market correction done for skilled labors?

Some will say that an white collar employee is more mentally drained out hence they deserve better pay but people who do menial job stop working the world will just rot as everything cannot be done but robots and AI.

It's sometimes sad to see how they are treated disrespectfully, be it a waiter, delivery workers, cab drivers, carpenter, or construction workers as they are the pillars and without them things will start falling apart. I know some of these can be automated but not everything.

OP,  many companies behave this way, they dont value their skilled workers mainly  because they dont have certificate, but with my findings, skilled workers suffer more than the so called office hanlers, however, I won't generalize it, some companies knows the worth of skilled workers, these companies pay them adequately for work done, the production company is made up of skilled and unskilled worker but with the knowledge I have got so far the success achieved by such company is as a result of the great input by the skilled workers which needed to be rewarded for sucg, you mentioned automation, without someone giving the automation command, it won't function properly, so in all aspect skilled workers are needed and should be respected, treated well for this great continuous performance.

[Lorence.xD]

There has always been a huge difference in the pay scale between the white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor wherein the later one put in more effort physically and do more hardwork than the earlier one.

Should there be market correction done for skilled labors?

Some will say that an white collar employee is more mentally drained out hence they deserve better pay but people who do menial job stop working the world will just rot as everything cannot be done but robots and AI.

It's sometimes sad to see how they are treated disrespectfully, be it a waiter, delivery workers, cab drivers, carpenter, or construction workers as they are the pillars and without them things will start falling apart. I know some of these can be automated but not everything.

Every type of job has different pay as they have different ways of contributing to the companies. We know that being in a blue-collar job is ain't easy as well for a white-collar job, cause some of the work needs some knowledge that wouldn't be learned in just days or months but it takes years which is applicable for white-collar. From that, we could already understand why they have higher pay than a blue-collar job cause they are being paid by their knowledge and brain.

Now for the blue-collar, they are important for our industry cause without them we don't have employees that contribute as well, but they are being paid only for their efforts, skills, physical, etc. which can be learned by simply having instructions for days or months. Let's say an engineer guides you to do something and of course, you are not aware of how to do it, but after you got instructed you done it, you are getting paid.

[carlfebz2]

There has always been a huge difference in the pay scale between the white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor wherein the later one put in more effort physically and do more hardwork than the earlier one.

Should there be market correction done for skilled labors?

Some will say that an white collar employee is more mentally drained out hence they deserve better pay but people who do menial job stop working the world will just rot as everything cannot be done but robots and AI.

It's sometimes sad to see how they are treated disrespectfully, be it a waiter, delivery workers, cab drivers, carpenter, or construction workers as they are the pillars and without them things will start falling apart. I know some of these can be automated but not everything.

Every type of job has different pay as they have different ways of contributing to the companies. We know that being in a blue-collar job is ain't easy as well for a white-collar job, cause some of the work needs some knowledge that wouldn't be learned in just days or months but it takes years which is applicable for white-collar. From that, we could already understand why they have higher pay than a blue-collar job cause they are being paid by their knowledge and brain.

Now for the blue-collar, they are important for our industry cause without them we don't have employees that contribute as well, but they are being paid only for their efforts, skills, physical, etc. which can be learned by simply having instructions for days or months. Let's say an engineer guides you to do something and of course, you are not aware of how to do it, but after you got instructed you done it, you are getting paid.

People cant really just accept the reality eh? They do really like to get in line or level into those people who had spend up time and effort on achieving on finishing up their degree and honing up their ideas and skills for a specific job and now they are asking for having that similar pay? it is really just that for a demand and we know that it cant just be possible.Its true that they arent getting paid up high for some physical hardwork that they would really be doing but rather they are paid for the idea and the brain that they do have because running a company isnt really just that doing some hardjob physically but rather it would really be needing to be that strategic. So if the results were that positive then it is really that just because of the main brain of the said company. Workers are really just that implementing or really just that doing the job.

If you are really that been placed at the bottom then its better not to make your mind being hassled or being bothered with this kind of idea because no matter how hard you do
there's no way that these things would be changed up or would be considered. Somehow there are indeed places or countries on which they are really that giving importance or priorities on higher
pay into those who are really exterting that much effort or something that dirty jobs (literally) which do get some better pay.

[someone703]

The gap between white-collar suits and blue-collar grit has been gaping wider than a broken bridge for way too damn long. It ain't just about fat wallets for fancy folks versus calloused hands for the hard hats, it's about a whole messed-up way of thinking that says some jobs are worth more than others just because they involve pushing papers instead of pipes.

Sure, a desk job might leave you with a sore neck and a caffeine addiction, but let's not pretend the physical grind of blue-collar work is a picnic. To say their paychecks don't reflect their value is like saying a car can run without an engine – pure baloney.

And don't even get me started on the outdated pecking order of professions. Calling a doctor more important than a garbage collector is like saying a fancy fork is better than a trusty shovel – they both serve a damn purpose, right? Every job, every skill, is a piece in the puzzle of society. Teachers build minds, farmers feed bellies, delivery folks keep the goods flowing – without them, the whole picture falls apart faster than a house of cards in a hurricane.

[Betwrong]

Try to answer the question: the one you call a “white collar” has an education—a higher education. Can he do the work of a laborer? Waiter, taxi driver, builder? Yes, sure. You can learn this in a couple of days.
The question is, can someone who works as a waiter create a project, perform an operation, or teach a child higher mathematics?
Do you feel the difference? Hence, ask yourself why people with higher education get paid more. I think the answer is obvious.

I see what you mean and I agree with you in general, but let me tell you that someone without any proper education can create a project, if that person from wealthy family like Donald Trump and others. Overall 30% of all them billionaires are coming from wealthy families. Not all of them are uneducated but many of them could create a project(with the help of others) and be successful being not educated at the same time.

[philipma1957]

There has always been a huge difference in the pay scale between the white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor wherein the later one put in more effort physically and do more hardwork than the earlier one.

Should there be market correction done for skilled labors?

Some will say that an white collar employee is more mentally drained out hence they deserve better pay but people who do menial job stop working the world will just rot as everything cannot be done but robots and AI.

It's sometimes sad to see how they are treated disrespectfully, be it a waiter, delivery workers, cab drivers, carpenter, or construction workers as they are the pillars and without them things will start falling apart. I know some of these can be automated but not everything.

Actually this is a new issue as at least 25% of college taught people with 'brainy' degrees will be worthless with AI.

Now that makes all colleges at risk economically since why get an accounting degree it is worthless AI is better.

It is a new world.

Nurses and doctors would have value but many college educated people would have fully replaceable jobs.

Hard physical jobs may become the better way for many people.


But I have to imagine that colleges will push back or go broke.

I will likely die before that all straightens out I would think 25-35 years time before we see how it shakes out.


that would mean I would be 92-102 years old so I don't worry so much about it.

[JoyMarsha]

There has always been a huge pay gap between white-collar jobs and skilled labor. In a limited workplace with skilled laborers and white-collar workers, skilled workers such as drivers, technicians, attendants, and chefs are underpaid, even though they are the backbone of the company. White-collar workers perform fewer tasks but earn higher salaries. If we start paying all employees the same regardless of their educational background, undergraduates will be discouraged from working and earning a living as white-collar workers, preferring to enter the workforce as skilled labor rather than white-collar jobs. This alone will degrade our educational system because people go to school in hopes of finding better jobs that will pay well in the future.

[stadus]

I think the type of government is the one to be blame. When it should be making laws for equality for white and blue collars,  so that there will be no discrimination that is going to happen. Equality when it comes to respect and appreciation, and not on the amount of wages because for obvious reason, college graduates have always gained advantage from undergraduate due to higher educational achievement.  But still the government should still impose minimum amount of wages for these blue collar workers that would pay for their skills they applied In their respective jobs.

[dothebeats]

There are tons of blue collar job that pays well. The problem is, not a lot of people want to take the job. There are tradesmen that makes as much as a good software developer does, and there are some white collared jobs that pays as much as an entry-level electrician. It all boils down to experience and location where these jobs are offered, and the amount of effort that is exerted for that job to get it done. At the end of the day, there's a lot of factors at play that affects the pay rate of these jobs. Everyone can be a driver, but not everyone can be a tech expert without proper education; and everyone can be a receptionist, but not everyone can be a steel worker. You get the idea.

[gunhell16]

There has always been a huge difference in the pay scale between the white collar jobs and blue collar or skilled labor wherein the later one put in more effort physically and do more hardwork than the earlier one.

Should there be market correction done for skilled labors?

Some will say that an white collar employee is more mentally drained out hence they deserve better pay but people who do menial job stop working the world will just rot as everything cannot be done but robots and AI.

It's sometimes sad to see how they are treated disrespectfully, be it a waiter, delivery workers, cab drivers, carpenter, or construction workers as they are the pillars and without them things will start falling apart. I know some of these can be automated but not everything.

You know, all I can say is that we shouldn't discriminate against our neighbors; as long as they don't do anything bad, let's respect each other. Also, I don't see anything wrong if a person has a low-class job.

It does not mean, for example, that they are garbage collectors or janitors; they will be discriminated against. That is wrong because when it comes to paying taxes, we are all equal, whether we are rich or poor. We should respect them if we want others to respect us.

[South Park]

There are tons of blue collar job that pays well. The problem is, not a lot of people want to take the job. There are tradesmen that makes as much as a good software developer does, and there are some white collared jobs that pays as much as an entry-level electrician. It all boils down to experience and location where these jobs are offered, and the amount of effort that is exerted for that job to get it done. At the end of the day, there's a lot of factors at play that affects the pay rate of these jobs. Everyone can be a driver, but not everyone can be a tech expert without proper education; and everyone can be a receptionist, but not everyone can be a steel worker. You get the idea.

The pay given by a job will vary depending on how difficult is the job itself, the demand for it from different businesses and the number of people willing to do it, and there are many blue collar jobs that pay very well as they are in high demand and not many people want to do them, probably because there has been a tendency to look down on those that do those jobs or because they can be risky unlike a white collar job, but whatever the reason those jobs can be a good option for those that do not like their white collar job and may desire a career change which gave them a better pay.

[Lorence.xD]

There are tons of blue collar job that pays well. The problem is, not a lot of people want to take the job. There are tradesmen that makes as much as a good software developer does, and there are some white collared jobs that pays as much as an entry-level electrician. It all boils down to experience and location where these jobs are offered, and the amount of effort that is exerted for that job to get it done. At the end of the day, there's a lot of factors at play that affects the pay rate of these jobs. Everyone can be a driver, but not everyone can be a tech expert without proper education; and everyone can be a receptionist, but not everyone can be a steel worker. You get the idea.

The pay given by a job will vary depending on how difficult is the job itself, the demand for it from different businesses and the number of people willing to do it, and there are many blue collar jobs that pay very well as they are in high demand and not many people want to do them, probably because there has been a tendency to look down on those that do those jobs or because they can be risky unlike a white collar job, but whatever the reason those jobs can be a good option for those that do not like their white collar job and may desire a career change which gave them a better pay.

Some blue-collar jobs that pay well that I could think of can be dangerous to your life, it might sound simple to do but the fact that it might affect your health is one of the reasons it pays well. It could be in demand as we know that it could pay up well but some wouldn't like to sacrifice their comfort, convenience, and safety for the sake of money. In the end, it still depends on your preferability, some people who have degrees and educational backgrounds still prefer to work in a blue-collar job, one factor could be that they prefer to be tired physically than their mental health be drained by office work. Still, no matter what kind of jobs, we're all contributing to the economy as we pay taxes, the higher your salary, the higher the tax as well.

[Mate2237]

The payments can never be the same because the jobs or the works are now t the same. I think white collar jobs which are also known as government jobs have fixed amount to pay while the skill labour workers have different in salaries. Some skill workers received their payment in weekly while some monthly but government workers received theirs monthly.

The menial workers really help the world in many ways. They are the once fixing everything on the streets and homes. And their payments are different in the nature of the work.

[Betwrong]

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The pay given by a job will vary depending on how difficult is the job itself, the demand for it from different businesses and the number of people willing to do it, and there are many blue collar jobs that pay very well as they are in high demand and not many people want to do them, probably because there has been a tendency to look down on those that do those jobs or because they can be risky unlike a white collar job, but whatever the reason those jobs can be a good option for those that do not like their white collar job and may desire a career change which gave them a better pay.

But it's rare that a white collar job was abandoned and a blue collar one was picked instead, innit? Blue collar jobs that are highly paid, first, they can be risky, like you rightly said, second, they can be extremely hard to do. Overall I agree with OP that there should be market correction done for skilled labors, only in my opinion, it's dome already in most places. If you are a blue collar worker and you feel like you are underpaid, move to another region then.