Trading new listed coin/token

[theShort]

Hello everyone,
for a few months, I've been learning forex currency trading and recently started exploring the crypto market. Currently, I'm conducting small experiments to understand the dynamics, using OKX and Binance.

I noticed that, unlike the Forex currency, in the Crypto world when Coin/Token are listed, a remarkable bullish impulse is always presented in the first 15 minutes.
Today there was a particular day, on OKX and Binance the token ACE was listed, which I think I understood that it was expected and therefore of interest, and only on OKX has been listed another less interesting token (SATS) .
I took advantage of this opportunity to make a trading test on newly listed assets and I saw that for both cases, 95% of the length of the first candle is reached in a fraction of a second. It is humanly impossible that a person manages in such a short time to open a position and consequently it seems obvious to me that below there is the use of bots. Considering that a user cannot create a bot for a coin/token that is not yet listed, I think it is the broker himself (OKX, Binance) to pump that 95% of the first candle in the way completely exclusive, allowing users to start trading only after the initial pump.

I would like to ask someone who already has experience of trading Crypto if he confirms what I have written.

Or maybe I missed something and it is possible to create a bot for a coin that is in the listing process...

Thanks!

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[dimonstration]

I would like to ask someone who already has experience of trading Crypto if he confirms what I have written.

Or maybe I missed something and it is possible to create a bot for a coin that is in the listing process...

I’m not sure if bot is possible to use to CEX but one thing is for sure that many traders is carefully watching for newly listed token since there’s a countdown for it on the exchange itself. Imagine having thousands or millions of traders doing the same waiting for the coin to list with the same goal of buying immediately when the countdown ends. I’m sure the price will surely skyrocket since most of them use a market order to immediately fill their order.

I’m only certain that bot is widely use on DEX since this exchange is decentralized. This bot is called sniper bot on DEX.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Possibly market makers are the one open up a huge liqyidity on it. I like to buy ace too at lower price like 1 or 2$ but its just a split second to seen that price level and become two digits right away. If ever theres a bot that can operate on cex that would be better tool since the volatility is too high.

[Zaguru12]

What I think Most investors do is a fundamental analysis before each listing, with this knowledge most people already have the coin/token in some low cost exchanges and have already make transfer to this big exchanges prior to them been traded. Then they set high sell price on limit order and not fill market order. Most of the people that miss out fill the market order and when supply gets limited it pump the price in minutes. I don’t bother chasing this stuffs because they are just waste of time. If they happen to be a bot everyone will use it and some will still miss out.

[Orpichukwu]

What you are saying is correct; in fact,  I have taken advantage of most of the newly listed on Binance before, as I always target the market a few hours or minutes after they are listed with little trading volume. I always pump in a few dollars and allow the market to stabilise maybe a few hours later or a few days later, and then I will most times realise about 40–80% profit from my initial capital.
 
But this doesn't always happen in all newly listed tokens, so you need to be careful on which one you are buying, and then again, for tokens that have already been listed on other exchanges before they are listed on either Okex or Binance, there is a higher possibility that the price might not pump as expected because the listing news alone might be able to pump the price to where it should be after the listing; it might just be a take-home profit for those who invested earlier.

[Dunamisx]

I noticed that, unlike the Forex currency, in the Crypto world when Coin/Token are listed, a remarkable bullish impulse is always presented in the first 15 minutes.

You should know this first thing that we cannot compare the forex market with the crypto market, they are different things entirely despite they both have the similarities of currency pairing, also, we have to know that some coins can rise as fast as possible only when they are successful after launch, some may also take time to achieve a tangible milestone after the launch before they peak up.

[electronicash]

wash trading was very common in the early days to make the newly listed token to be more desirable for those investors looking for new assets. but i'm not sure if the exchanges are allowing it or they are doing it themselves. both parties will benefit from it so why shouldn't they? increasing the trading volume certainly will make the token attractive.

forex is very different but the stock market is more comparable to crypto.

[kentrolla]

This has been the trend for a while now hence it has become like a norm that once the coin is listed in Binance it pumps like crazy and then it starts dumping with heavy fluctuation between pump and dump, in next few days the coin will hit rock bottom (This is the sweet spot), post which we see the coin pumps by 2x to 3x. This might not be the case with all the coins but I have observed this pattern in most of the coins which are listed in Binance. Hence I rather started focusing on increasing my chance of earning profits than trying to figure out if it's a bot manipulation by exchange or something else.

[theShort]

I’m not sure if bot is possible to use to CEX but one thing is for sure that many traders is carefully watching for newly listed token since there’s a countdown for it on the exchange itself. Imagine having thousands or millions of traders doing the same waiting for the coin to list with the same goal of buying immediately when the countdown ends. I’m sure the price will surely skyrocket since most of them use a market order to immediately fill their order.

I was also waiting for the reversal of the countdown, but I was very surprised at the speed with which the first candles went up.

Possibly market makers are the one open up a huge liqyidity on it. I like to buy ace too at lower price like 1 or 2$ but its just a split second to seen that price level and become two digits right away.

Really! I did not have time to upload the web page for the trading that the first candle was already very high...

What I think Most investors do is a fundamental analysis before each listing, with this knowledge most people already have the coin/token in some low cost exchanges and have already make transfer to this big exchanges prior to them been traded. Then they set high sell price on limit order and not fill market order. Most of the people that miss out fill the market order and when supply gets limited it pump the price in minutes. I don’t bother chasing this stuffs because they are just waste of time. If they happen to be a bot everyone will use it and some will still miss out.

I saw that Binance proposes a preliminary accumulation method via launchpool. It was also done for ACE, if I saw it before I would have participated. From today I will also keep launchpool under control.

What you are saying is correct; in fact,  I have taken advantage of most of the newly listed on Binance before, as I always target the market a few hours or minutes after they are listed with little trading volume. I always pump in a few dollars and allow the market to stabilise maybe a few hours later or a few days later, and then I will most times realise about 40–80% profit from my initial capital.

This approach is interesting, now I try to study the graphs of the latest listed coin. Do you have any particular patterns that when you see them lead you to open an order?

You should know this first thing that we cannot compare the forex market with the crypto market, they are different things entirely despite they both have the similarities of currency pairing, also, we have to know that some coins can rise as fast as possible only when they are successful after launch, some may also take time to achieve a tangible milestone after the launch before they peak up.

Yes you are right. Let's say the Forex market is a decidedly more peaceful sea. The world of Crypto, on the other hand, is very agitated.

forex is very different but the stock market is more comparable to crypto.

Maybe the stock market will be my next step

This has been the trend for a while now hence it has become like a norm that once the coin is listed in Binance it pumps like crazy and then it starts dumping with heavy fluctuation between pump and dump, in next few days the coin will hit rock bottom (This is the sweet spot), post which we see the coin pumps by 2x to 3x. This might not be the case with all the coins but I have observed this pattern in most of the coins which are listed in Binance. Hence I rather started focusing on increasing my chance of earning profits than trying to figure out if it's a bot manipulation by exchange or something else.

In the forex market, the exchangeable currencies have always been the same for decades, so I landed in the Crypto world I have remained intrigued by the dynamics that occur during a coin/token listing. In any case, I will try to focus more on the evolutions that follow the listing.

Thanks for the answers!

[AmoreJaz]

This has been the trend for a while now hence it has become like a norm that once the coin is listed in Binance it pumps like crazy and then it starts dumping with heavy fluctuation between pump and dump, in next few days the coin will hit rock bottom (This is the sweet spot), post which we see the coin pumps by 2x to 3x. This might not be the case with all the coins but I have observed this pattern in most of the coins which are listed in Binance. Hence I rather started focusing on increasing my chance of earning profits than trying to figure out if it's a bot manipulation by exchange or something else.

it is not about the bot doing it, it is the traders who are patiently waiting for the listing of the coin or token especially exchanges like binance. for sure, they are on the lookout of this event as it is their opportunity to possibly earn high profits. but buyers should also keep an eye of this market, because after the pump, it usually declines once the early buyers start to sell theirs for profits.

the interest is quite different when you talk about a project launching or being listed in binance. as it is one of the largest and popular crypto exchanges, the volume going in and out is high, and so they have very high liquidity that can accommodate large amount of money.

[Yatsan]

Possibly market makers are the one open up a huge liqyidity on it. I like to buy ace too at lower price like 1 or 2$ but its just a split second to seen that price level and become two digits right away. If ever theres a bot that can operate on cex that would be better tool since the volatility is too high.

It did happen to some tokens but we just cannot guarantee that same thing will happen with the other tokens to be listed and introduced.
I know many investors are looking forward to hit gem token and to earn huge amount upon its listing but it just happened to not be guaranteed and that there are instances that new tokens' market value are falling upon its release.

[GreatArkansas]

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I would like to ask someone who already has experience of trading Crypto if he confirms what I have written.

Or maybe I missed something and it is possible to create a bot for a coin that is in the listing process...

Thanks!

This is also kinda worth but just expect this will not 100% work, during the coin listing in some exchanges, the price is in price discovery, it could dump immediately upon listing or it will pump immediately. High risk, high reward + make sure your bot will not create some bugs  which will cause you lose money.

[btc78]

I think i have seen some bots buy newly listed coins they get their sources first online and watch the coin carefully and once it is listed, the bot buys it but the bots i have seen have failed to buy these coins at their listed price even if with a fraction of a second

big companies have really advanced trading bots that might be causing the pump even after it was just listed it is a competition of bots out there

[Bureau]

I don't know about the other exchange but when Binance is listing a new coin it will send you a notification through their app before listing. You would get an average time of 15 minutes to get ready to place your position. If you start hitting buy button 1 minute before listing you can get in the benefit of initial pump. There can be a big dump in the initial listing so be prepared to take that risk.

[Publictalk792]

Mostly I also seen this. And I have seen many coins which listed and first candle shows that the coin go to 100x or 10x and now this is down. I don't know who is behind it. And possibly there can be a bot. But thing is that mostly when that kind of move occurs mostly orders doesn't execute.
And my dear friend this is crypto market and here anything can happen. And some coins may pump in a single candle to 5x 10x or even more. And some can go down significantly like they pump so always be careful when you are trading in crypto coins.

[Fundamentals Of]

Fake volume is rampant on exchanges. Fake trades are also rampant. Bots are all over exchanges as well. These are obvious. Volume has to go up or else the newly listed coin/token will not be attractive to the real traders and could be delisted sooner or later. Liquidity has to be high. This is the reason why fake orders have to be made. Whether this directly involves Binance or not probably depends on the coin, but the development team is probably at the forefront of this.

[bluebit25]

I noticed that, unlike the Forex currency, in the Crypto world when Coin/Token are listed, a remarkable bullish impulse is always presented in the first 15 minutes.
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I think you still need more time to observe and learn more about this market. Before talking about the scale of crypto vs forex, perhaps you will also realize how big it is.
And in the crypto market, coin/token operations are even more complicated when they have been manipulated and planned with AMM before, and the risks/return in the early moments should also be clearer about whether you are willing to accept that.

(...) It is humanly impossible that a person manages in such a short time to open a position and consequently it seems obvious to me that below there is the use of bots. Considering that a user cannot create a bot for a coin/token that is not yet listed, I think it is the broker himself (OKX, Binance) to pump that 95% of the first candle in the way completely exclusive, allowing users to start trading only after the initial pump.

The reality is that with any trading tool CEX/DEX requires the intervention of bots, and almost the greater the influence, the more the bots operate with uniformity in price to limit losses. coin/token to others, AMM can drive the price their way depending on factors (level of community interest, supply, value,...) But in the end, I don't spend too much time I'm addicted to short-term trading so I don't like having to deal with small profits and conversely the risks that come with it.

[Mpamaegbu]

Currently, I'm conducting small experiments to understand the dynamics, using OKX and Binance.

You can also make use of Poocoin or live chart on the geckoterminal site for plotting your chart for position taking on any instrument if you're a TA (technical analyst) person. You can also make use of Metatrader 5 if the instruments you're trading can be found on it.

I noticed that, unlike the Forex currency, in the Crypto world when Coin/Token are listed, a remarkable bullish impulse is always presented in the first 15 minutes.

Of course, most newly listed tokens pump immediately they hit the market and that's because of FOMO. It's the same way they pump that they can also dump. As a matter of principle, I don't buy tokens immediately they're listed. I allow the maddening scrabble for them settle down before going in on them. This has always worked.

[KingsDen]

I am not a fan of investing in altcoins or even shitcoins because majority of the coins which are newly listed in CEXs are shitcoins. But of a recent I have been studying the binance app and I have discovered that newly listed coins make fast upwards movement. I have thought about choosing random newly listed coins to invest but what came to my mind was the timing. How will I be able to time the market very well. If there's a tool for that. thankGod for this thread.

I would like to ask someone who already has experience of trading Crypto if he confirms what I have written.

Or maybe I missed something and it is possible to create a bot for a coin that is in the listing process...

I’m not sure if bot is possible to use to CEX but one thing is for sure that many traders is carefully watching for newly listed token since there’s a countdown for it on the exchange itself. Imagine having thousands or millions of traders doing the same waiting for the coin to list with the same goal of buying immediately when the countdown ends. I’m sure the price will surely skyrocket since most of them use a market order to immediately fill their order.

I’m only certain that bot is widely use on DEX since this exchange is decentralized. This bot is called sniper bot on DEX.

Rather than believing the bot analogy, I will instead think that it is the number of people on wait to buy the coin immediately it is listed that makes the price to jump. This is possible because the volume of the newly listed coins are small, so little buy pressure will push the price up so high. OP, rather than buying when listed, is there no how you will know the projects that will be listed and buy the ICO price.

[fapar]

Fake volume is rampant on exchanges. Fake trades are also rampant. Bots are all over exchanges as well. These are obvious. Volume has to go up or else the newly listed coin/token will not be attractive to the real traders and could be delisted sooner or later. Liquidity has to be high. This is the reason why fake orders have to be made. Whether this directly involves Binance or not probably depends on the coin, but the development team is probably at the forefront of this.

Fake volumes in this case are the result of MM’s work, and not “drawn” by the CEX exchange. So it was and so it will be. The benefit always remains with the exchange (trading fee, withdrawal fee) and MM (here you can also include the owners of TG/DC channels who are catching up with the main asset with their subscribers).