Bitcointalk mixer ban, Altcointalk is active in that scope.

[Saisher]

What is the benefit of closing the mixer campaign? altcointalk are allowed. Has it been justified to stop the mixer campaign at all? Discontinuing the mixer campaign on the BitcoinTalk forum has had one benefit, that is, the activation of the altcointalk forum.

Well, unforseen events contributed to Bitcoin adoption so if ban on mixers on BTT is going to be the breakthrough altcointalk needed to raise the DA and DR of the sites so be it.

Secondly altcointalk is hosted outside the U.S jurisdiction, it's one of the safest forum out there. Something theymos should have done a long time ago.

Altcoinstalk is within US jurisdiction based on this data and if there's a warning they can also impose on their forum what Theymos did, it's still up to the administrator how to decide if the mixers promotions start on altcoinstalk but since the site's domain registrar is GoDaddy they are compliant to US terms.

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[pinggoki]

Now if this BitcoinTalk forum is not allowed to conduct any kind of signature campaign, will everyone be active in this forum as it is now? No one posts here without profit, everyone has a signature code on their account, there are only a handful of people left.

Casinos are still doing signature campaigns here and I would say that there's a possibility that this can happen but given how active the forum is, it's unlikely that it's going to lose a lot of members, maybe lose some people active on different boards but definitely not going to be in any kind of total disappearance, maybe you're too focused on signature campaigns that you think it's mostly the only reason why people are active here.

Well am I just here to gain knowledge in this bitcointalk forum? Are you also just here to gain knowledge? I won't say, no one comes to this forum to gain knowledge, signature is the only goal besides gaining knowledge. I also have a goal in the future to grow my account and try to join signature campaigns.

No you're not, if the opportunity presented to you to join a campaign here, you would've get into it, don't lie about that. At the least you're honest about that one yourself so yeah. But there's definitely some people here that don't care about signature campaigns, they're only a few so you don't see them a lot and so you think that no one like that exists.

Well now if all types of signatures are stopped from this forum then there will be no people to post here. I'm not saying that absolutely no one will post, there will be many who don't have any kind of signature. Am I right or wrong about this? What is the benefit of closing the mixer campaign? altcointalk are allowed. Has it been justified to stop the mixer campaign at all? Discontinuing the mixer campaign on the BitcoinTalk forum has had one benefit, that is, the activation of the altcointalk forum.

That won't be the case I think, exchanges and crypto casinos are still doing some campaigns here and there's probably projects out there in the future that will use the forum as a platform to promote their services or whatever.

[Poker Player]

Well, the thing about this is one thing that had been talked about in the past about the assumption of a global ban on signatures: that the traffic would go elsewhere. In this case, it happens partially, if the mixer campaigns go to shitcointalks.com part of the traffic will go from here to there, but I think not much, because here the remaining campaigns will still pay more. Although it is a warning of what could happen in the future in the face of more restrictions: that more traffic will continue to be lost in favor of other sites.

[Potato Chips]

Well now if all types of signatures are stopped from this forum then there will be no people to post here. I'm not saying that absolutely no one will post, there will be many who don't have any kind of signature. Am I right or wrong about this?

Traffic will surely go down but I don't think it won't be as bad since bitcointalk has built its userbase over the years + it ranks well in search results.

altcointalk are allowed.

Who knows, it could be temporary. I honestly think it's pretty likely that they will start considering following bitcointalk's steps if they get into authorities' radar-- you know, like being mentioned on their website or something.

[Poker Player]

Well now if all types of signatures are stopped from this forum then there will be no people to post here. I'm not saying that absolutely no one will post, there will be many who don't have any kind of signature. Am I right or wrong about this?

Traffic will surely go down but I don't think it won't be as bad since bitcointalk has built its userbase over the years + it ranks well in search results.

The user base has been built on the strong foundation that in this forum you can get paid very well for writing. There are people living off this forum in third world countries. And for people from developed countries it is a good extra income. In the few forums I know where you can earn a few bucks, the pay is much lower than in this one. If signatures are totally banned from this one and go elsewhere, most of the userbase will leave.This has been talked about ad nauseam on the forum and I think the general consensus is what I am saying.

[digaran]

I doubt it if people actually leave this forum in favor of the other forum, we all know how multi-accounters work, they would go there to do some  meaningless garbage posting while having an open tab on here, then they can leech off both forums, milking the essence of life out of both forums. The campaign managers should observe that forum and identify who is participating on both sites, we already know a few of them. They shouldn't be allowed here if they are over there getting paid.😉

[Despairo]

I also believe the other forum will follow what Bitcointalk did when the traffic is big, take a look with centralized exchange that allow people to trade without KYC e.g. Binance, Kucoin, Bybit etc, now all of them already ask KYC if you want to use the service or withdraw your coins.

I just don't understand why altcoinstalks give a feature to transfer your Bitcointalk account to there, obviously to attract users in this forum, but I feel there's something suspicious which they could take advantage from your data.

They shouldn't be allowed here if they are over there getting paid.😉

IF you're the campaign manager.

[Igebotz]

Altcoinstalk is within US jurisdiction based on this data and if there's a warning they can also impose on their forum what Theymos did, it's still up to the administrator how to decide if the mixers promotions start on altcoinstalk but since the site's domain registrar is GoDaddy they are compliant to US terms.

This is what the Altcointalk admin said about the data protection law of the forum and if the U.S should come demanding for it.


simple answer No,
because they do not have the right, and i am not a US citizen, nor the server is in the US
there are a 1000 other reason that i will not go into in details.

[shield132]

Do you agree with what I think? We found that the altcointalk forum was not that active even a few days ago. But now altcointalk forum is very active as professional manager is running signature campaign. People run after their own interests.

Now if this BitcoinTalk forum is not allowed to conduct any kind of signature campaign, will everyone be active in this forum as it is now? No one posts here without profit, everyone has a signature code on their account, there are only a handful of people left.

Well am I just here to gain knowledge in this bitcointalk forum? Are you also just here to gain knowledge? I won't say, no one comes to this forum to gain knowledge, signature is the only goal besides gaining knowledge. I also have a goal in the future to grow my account and try to join signature campaigns.

Well now if all types of signatures are stopped from this forum then there will be no people to post here. I'm not saying that absolutely no one will post, there will be many who don't have any kind of signature. Am I right or wrong about this? What is the benefit of closing the mixer campaign? altcointalk are allowed. Has it been justified to stop the mixer campaign at all? Discontinuing the mixer campaign on the BitcoinTalk forum has had one benefit, that is, the activation of the altcointalk forum.

There are many factors that you have to consider when you promote a project. There is a huge reason why companies run signature campaigns on bitcointalk and some of them even pay a premium price to their sig campaign participants.
Bitcointalk is a very popular place to discuss Bitcoin, altcoins, blockchain technologies and every business that is crypto-friendly. That means that Bitcointalk.org has a lot of traffic.
At the same time, bitcointalk.org is a very old website with a very high ranking in search engines. In overall, it's the first cryptocurrency forum in the world with legend members and is a well-established community, bitcointalk has no competitive alternative.

Moving on altcointalks.com doesn't make sense to me. If bitcointalk saw mixers as a threat, then altcointalks should consider that problem. This is simply easy, Bitmixer stopped operation and shut down their own website because saw a threat that if they continued, they would be caught. Many mixers were created after Bitmixer and many ended up very bad. Today we have a different case. Bitcointalk falls in trouble because of mixers but other forums take advantage and call mixers to promote themselves on their forums. If it's trouble for bitcointalk today, it will become trouble for them tomorrow.

[OgNasty]

Secondly altcointalk is hosted outside the U.S jurisdiction, it's one of the safest forum out there. Something theymos should have done a long time ago.

This would not improve any legal safety for Bitcointalk unless theymos himself also moved outside U.S. jurisdiction. What is stopping law enforcement from forcing him to hand over database access and/or records from the "off-shore" servers, in the event they come for questioning or arrest?

thyemos' mistake was messing with his privacy and location; I had no idea he was going down a street in the U.S buying McDonald's. I used to think he was the closest thing to Satoshi in terms of privacy, but I was wrong.

If only the site was hosted on one of BRICS servers. Who knows.

You used to think theymos was the closest thing to satoshi in terms of privacy? That’s a wild statement to make. I don’t think theymos was ever anonymous was he? The first time I googled him I came across his real name in seconds. I don’t think he ever even made an attempt to try and hide or be anonymous. Maybe I’m wrong?

[robelneo]

Altcoinstalk is within US jurisdiction based on this data and if there's a warning they can also impose on their forum what Theymos did, it's still up to the administrator how to decide if the mixers promotions start on altcoinstalk but since the site's domain registrar is GoDaddy they are compliant to US terms.

This is what the Altcointalk admin said about the data protection law of the forum and if the U.S should come demanding for it.


simple answer No,
because they do not have the right, and i am not a US citizen, nor the server is in the US
there are a 1000 other reason that i will not go into in details.

Here is the screenshot of that, the admin of Altcoinstalk clearly stated his stance on the subject this early this will open a new platform for Mixers.
Altcoinstalk has existed for over 6 years already although their teleport feature was announced many months ago it is just now that many members are taking this opportunity to teleport their account from here to there.

[Bounty Bro]

Altcoinstalk is within US jurisdiction based on this data and if there's a warning they can also impose on their forum what Theymos did, it's still up to the administrator how to decide if the mixers promotions start on altcoinstalk but since the site's domain registrar is GoDaddy they are compliant to US terms.

This is what the Altcointalk admin said about the data protection law of the forum and if the U.S should come demanding for it.


simple answer No,
because they do not have the right, and i am not a US citizen, nor the server is in the US
there are a 1000 other reason that i will not go into in details.

Here is the screenshot of that, the admin of Altcoinstalk clearly stated his stance on the subject this early this will open a new platform for Mixers.
Altcoinstalk has existed for over 6 years already although their teleport feature was announced many months ago it is just now that many members are taking this opportunity to teleport their account from here to there.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/20/IwgCc.th.png

Your picture is wrongly cut, it's only possible to see tiny part of it.
Where was it announced on Altcointalk?

[Igebotz]

You used to think theymos was the closest thing to satoshi in terms of privacy? That’s a wild statement to make. I don’t think theymos was ever anonymous was he? The first time I googled him I came across his real name in seconds. I don’t think he ever even made an attempt to try and hide or be anonymous. Maybe I’m wrong?

Lol. I just Googled his true name for the first time and got a lot of results, including images (which I'm not sure are real). He appears to have attended a number of conferences while moderating r/Bitcoin. Everything now makes sense; every decision he made was for his own safety. Fair

Here is the screenshot of that, the admin of Altcoinstalk clearly stated his stance on the subject this early this will open a new platform for Mixers.
Altcoinstalk has existed for over 6 years already although their teleport feature was announced many months ago it is just now that many members are taking this opportunity to teleport their account from here to there.

What is the difference between what you posted and what I quoted earlier? And, once again, their teleport feature began years ago; I recall teleporting in 2021, while others did in 2020; I'm not sure if the feature was paused, but I'm certain it didn't begin a few months ago.

[robelneo]

Here is the screenshot of that, the admin of Altcoinstalk clearly stated his stance on the subject this early this will open a new platform for Mixers.
Altcoinstalk has existed for over 6 years already although their teleport feature was announced many months ago it is just now that many members are taking this opportunity to teleport their account from here to there.

What is the difference between what you posted and what I quoted earlier? And, once again, their teleport feature began years ago; I recall teleporting in 2021, while others did in 2020; I'm not sure if the feature was paused, but I'm certain it didn't begin a few months ago.

Because what you posted leads to a dead link

Code:

http://quote%20author=admin%20link=topic=312717.msg1453773/#msg1453773%20date=1702245308

This is to sustain and verify what you posted, I don't know because I have not posted a link coming from altcoinstalk yet but Bitcointalk may have filtered links coming from Altcointalk I read somewhere on Altcointalks that they are not allowing links coming from Bitcointalk maybe they are doing the same here, we have to verify that.

[digaran]

Pst, sheriff, you realize you are a traitor, right? But yet you keep boasting about being a mod in there and have the audacity to keep posting here. What are you, a double agent?😂

[Igebotz]

Because what you posted leads to a dead link

Code:

http://quote%20author=admin%20link=topic=312717.msg1453773/#msg1453773%20date=1702245308

This is to sustain and verify what you posted, I don't know because I have not posted a link coming from altcoinstalk yet but Bitcointalk may have filtered links coming from Altcointalk I read somewhere on Altcointalks that they are not allowing links coming from Bitcointalk maybe they are doing the same here, we have to verify that.

Yeah links are filtered - few years back no user was allowed to post links from altcointalk so I guess it's still on.. vise visa

Pst, sheriff, you realize you are a traitor, right? But yet you keep boasting about being a mod in there and have the audacity to keep posting here. What are you, a double agent?😂

theymos is also a mod on Reddit 

[coin-investor]

Who knows, it could be temporary. I honestly think it's pretty likely that they will start considering following bitcointalk's steps if they get into authorities' radar-- you know, like being mentioned on their website or something.

I'm pretty sure that the Altcointalk admins are very much aware of what's happening here they clearly stated their stand that they will welcome mixers promotion in their forum, this is a welcome development for the mixing industry and for posters, they could only follow Bitcointalk's stance if there at least two or three mixers that become notorious as money launderers so far all the mixing that's going to make a campaign there next year are all doing good and there are no big issues like what happen to Sinbad.
We never know if Altcointalks become the marketing platform of mixers, we'll know that in the first 5 months.

[DYING_S0UL]

That way bound to happen any days. Now that mixers are gone (almost) from bitcointalk, they have to go somewhere to advertise their brand. Hence the alternative altcointalk. And the altcointalk administrator are surely taking this as an opportunity to increase their site traffic. As we know we have a large numbers to campaign participant.

Now if this BitcoinTalk forum is not allowed to conduct any kind of signature campaign, will everyone be active in this forum as it is now?

Even if the signature feature is removed, people will keep posting here no matter what. There are many users who doesn't even have any signature added but posting tons of reply everyday. Signature do have a big part in the forums traffic but what I said above is also true.

[Renampun]

Now if this BitcoinTalk forum is not allowed to conduct any kind of signature campaign, will everyone be active in this forum as it is now? No one posts here without profit, everyone has a signature code on their account, there are only a handful of people left.

one thing is certain, the signature campaign on this forum will never be abolished and even if that happens, there will still be many members who will provide good posts on this forum.

Well am I just here to gain knowledge in this bitcointalk forum? Are you also just here to gain knowledge? I won't say, no one comes to this forum to gain knowledge, signature is the only goal besides gaining knowledge. I also have a goal in the future to grow my account and try to join signature campaigns.

On what basis is your claim, so you say that there is not a single member who comes to this forum with the aim of seeking knowledge, if you go to the WO thread you will find many members who do not join any campaign, they post because they are like it.

Well now if all types of signatures are stopped from this forum then there will be no people to post here. I'm not saying that absolutely no one will post, there will be many who don't have any kind of signature. Am I right or wrong about this? What is the benefit of closing the mixer campaign? altcointalk are allowed. Has it been justified to stop the mixer campaign at all? Discontinuing the mixer campaign on the BitcoinTalk forum has had one benefit, that is, the activation of the altcointalk forum.

There is nothing wrong with this, even though there has been a drastic increase in altcoinstalk visitors, visitors to this forum will not decrease, this forum remains the most complete library for seeking knowledge about Bitcoin and also information about other cryptocurrencies.

[wallet4bitcoin]

Do you agree with what I think? We found that the altcointalk forum was not that active even a few days ago. But now altcointalk forum is very active as professional manager is running signature campaign. People run after their own interests.

Now if this BitcoinTalk forum is not allowed to conduct any kind of signature campaign, will everyone be active in this forum as it is now? No one posts here without profit, everyone has a signature code on their account, there are only a handful of people left.

Well am I just here to gain knowledge in this bitcointalk forum? Are you also just here to gain knowledge? I won't say, no one comes to this forum to gain knowledge, signature is the only goal besides gaining knowledge. I also have a goal in the future to grow my account and try to join signature campaigns.

Well now if all types of signatures are stopped from this forum then there will be no people to post here. I'm not saying that absolutely no one will post, there will be many who don't have any kind of signature. Am I right or wrong about this? What is the benefit of closing the mixer campaign? altcointalk are allowed. Has it been justified to stop the mixer campaign at all? Discontinuing the mixer campaign on the BitcoinTalk forum has had one benefit, that is, the activation of the altcointalk forum.

Bitcointalk forum is not just a regular forum without rules and regulations. There are reasons why the Mixer campaigns was stopped with effect from 1st January, 2024.

The forum is in compliance with regulatory policies and will not want to meddle in affairs that raises concerns. It is not just that the forum is concerned, these projects are using the forum to engage in marketing operations. The forum has done this for its reputation sake and if other forums decides to activate it to keep theirs busy, it's entirely up to them.