Westinhome
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December 20, 2023, 08:51:29 PM |
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Anyone that is spending an amount of money that he can afford to lose on gambling, the person is not an addict.
But if someone is spending small amount of money on gambling but seeing himself not leaving gambling but prefer to just gamble and gambling taking his time, the person is an addict.
If gambling is not affecting someone financially and also not spending the time he supposed to spend on other important thing on gambling, then the person is not an addict.
The gambler who had free money and well settled in their real life can play the gambling,because the gambling had the potential to make you become a king and the joker.Everyone here come to become the king,but the luck only decide him king or joker.Some jokers also become the king with their experience,but for that he is ready to spend more dollars and the time in the gambling site.If the winner of gambling want to continue their winning in gambling site means,the first thing is he need to do the gambling in the continuous mode.The human brain had only less storage for the game memory,if the gambler play the gambling with the gap.Every time the gambler will loss their holding money.
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December 20, 2023, 08:54:43 PM |
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Lots of celebs can't find anything else which will keep them busy in life so they find peace in gambling sadly. Sometimes you have anything you want in life but it still gets boring when you have no goals left to achieve... then you make up new goals. Sometimes those goals are as stupid as they can get... like gambling your life savings away.
I think this is just the case; they have already made more money than they imagined. Their source of income gives them all the time in the world to look for other things to do in life, and when they don't have something to do and when they have to link up with colleagues, most times one-on-one betting comes into play. This is just their way of having fun. Many celebrities are into this life of betting a large amount in gambling, but it's only a few of them who have really turned into addicts; they are always in control, and they wager what they can afford to lose and not what they will later regret. We have so many celebrities who are into gambling, but I don't think they have lost it to becoming addicts, just like Drake, who has been known for his hard wagering amount and gambling decisions. These guys, I see them as people who actually gamble for the fun, playing with money around, and still having fun all together.
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December 20, 2023, 08:55:04 PM |
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I think it's more of Michael Jordan being competitive in nature that's why he always on someone, specially in golf. And there are a lot of stories that he either lost of win on that bet. Again this is his way of getting ahead of somewhat, or at least in psychological tactic or warfare.
And him being a basketball player, the desire to always win is his in mind that's why he uses this somewhat of a betting as his way to get into someone's mind and then win.
As for this gambling in casinos, well he has all the money, he can definitely play whenever or whatever he wants.
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December 20, 2023, 08:58:40 PM |
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I was recently arguing with someone whom stated that MJ is a gambling addict, and I pushed back. I think we could probably all agree that being addicted to anything is never good, no matter what it is. Michael is famous for being a big gambler. However, it's not like that's the only thing he does in life. He's a billionaire with many companies and countless things to do each day. Gambling doesn't effect those important things in life.
He takes care of his family, far from broke and gambling brings him entertainment.. so my question, would MJ be considered an addict? I argue he's not. He just loves to do it, but any negative effects may be literally zero ..
I can't recall MJ has history of big losses in a casino though, but if he did, that dude could probably make his own casino and not get broke. So I guess he could be categorically be called just a regular gambler, not that gambling addict or something. Yeah, with his billions of dollars, he can definitely take care of his family, from his first marriage to the current one. And you can see that his kids and grandkids will not get broke because Jordan has built his generational wealth.
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Baba God Noni
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December 20, 2023, 09:05:45 PM |
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He takes care of his family, far from broke and gambling brings him entertainment.. so my question, would MJ be considered an addict? I argue he's not. He just loves to do it, but any negative effects may be literally zero ..
If he takes care of his responsibilities and does things that is expected of him, I won't call Jordan an addicted gambler. He does that for fun because he has self control on his gambling activities and I don't think that anyone can call such person a gambling addict. I have seen a wealthy man that got broke due to his excessive gambling and under two years he had nothing anymore. He couldn't control his gambling activities and he was wrecked. There are a lot of wealthy gamblers that gambles responsible because they know that it will be worst for them if they become addicted. Since they are rich, they gamble and go home, no matter the loss that they hard on that day, it is like nothing to them and they still put things in order in their homes and in business. Gambling is fun, but very dangerous when you allow it to control your emotions.
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December 20, 2023, 09:08:30 PM |
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I was recently arguing with someone whom stated that MJ is a gambling addict, and I pushed back. I think we could probably all agree that being addicted to anything is never good, no matter what it is. Michael is famous for being a big gambler. However, it's not like that's the only thing he does in life. He's a billionaire with many companies and countless things to do each day. Gambling doesn't effect those important things in life.
He takes care of his family, far from broke and gambling brings him entertainment.. so my question, would MJ be considered an addict? I argue he's not. He just loves to do it, but any negative effects may be literally zero ..
Wiki Definition "Addiction is a neuropsychological disorder characterized by a persistent and intense urge to use a drug or engage in a behaviour that produces natural reward, despite substantial harm and other negative consequences. Repetitive drug use often alters brain function in ways that perpetuate craving, and weakens (but does not completely negate) self-control.[1] This phenomenon – drugs reshaping brain function – has led to an understanding of addiction as a brain disorder with a complex variety of psychosocial as well as neurobiological (and thus involuntary)[a] factors that are implicated in addiction's development.[2][3][4] Classic signs of addiction include compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli, preoccupation with substances or behavior, and continued use despite negative consequences. Habits and patterns associated with addiction are typically characterized by immediate gratification (short-term reward),[5][6] coupled with delayed deleterious effects (long-term costs).[3][7]"
(sorry hilarious and cyrus, I know you see this same type of topic a trillion times a day but this is bit different and something I'm truly interested in discussing, being his situation is unique).
In my opinion, you should reference this wikipedia post before you are reposted for plagiarism, regardless of how you put it here. Even though you can sometimes quote a definition verbatim, it is crucial to cite it and reference it
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December 20, 2023, 09:22:19 PM |
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maybe you're right about it. because the money he spent on gambling is just pennies to a billionaire. maybe he is just like drake.
true that he does have lots of things he is good at especially basketball, golf, and even baseball but i think the sports are also the ones dragging him to gambling. i'm sure someone in his team or family trying to stop him from gambling but i guess he didn't stop that why there was news about his gambling addiction.
People like them; in fact, that's what can be said if they're just throwing money away; they're the kind of popular celebrities who don't seem to know how to spend the money they have. Because of the amount of resources that they also have, in short, they have a lot of royalty income that comes in every day. And the money they lose in gambling is just a coin to them, where most people will need to work for a long time before they earn the money lost in gambling by these well-known celebrities. Also, what I know is that Jordan is not addicted to gambling; he plays, but he is not an addict. I suspect that the person addicted to gambling is his son.
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December 20, 2023, 09:29:01 PM |
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maybe you're right about it. because the money he spent on gambling is just pennies to a billionaire. maybe he is just like drake.
true that he does have lots of things he is good at especially basketball, golf, and even baseball but i think the sports are also the ones dragging him to gambling. i'm sure someone in his team or family trying to stop him from gambling but i guess he didn't stop that why there was news about his gambling addiction.
People like them; in fact, that's what can be said if they're just throwing money away; they're the kind of popular celebrities who don't seem to know how to spend the money they have. Because of the amount of resources that they also have, in short, they have a lot of royalty income that comes in every day. And the money they lose in gambling is just a coin to them, where most people will need to work for a long time before they earn the money lost in gambling by these well-known celebrities. Also, what I know is that Jordan is not addicted to gambling; he plays, but he is not an addict. I suspect that the person addicted to gambling is his son. And if in case, they are indeed gambling addicts. It is their business to do so as it is their money. So yes, let's mind our own business so to speak. They can spend all they want because they are capable to do so. However, they should also be careful as they can lose a lot if they will continue this lifestyle and it may catch up on them later on in their life. For now, this is the life that they want to portray to their followers, so be it. Just don't imitate if you are financially challenged.
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December 20, 2023, 09:29:57 PM Last edit: December 21, 2023, 04:37:11 AM by btc_angela |
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Well there's a lot of internet meme as far as MJ's gambling addiction, ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F12%2F20%2FIwTOw.png&t=665&c=29O0D7MURpAMWA) But I guess if you are that guy that can make more than $1-5 million day from his endorsements and his shoes, then definitely you can play and burn that money without thinking about losing. Call him gambling addict, but we all know how much this guy is worth. So for him, he is just having fun for sure when he gambles and then lose $1 million a day.
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December 20, 2023, 09:44:15 PM |
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I was recently arguing with someone whom stated that MJ is a gambling addict, and I pushed back. I think we could probably all agree that being addicted to anything is never good, no matter what it is. Michael is famous for being a big gambler. However, it's not like that's the only thing he does in life. He's a billionaire with many companies and countless things to do each day. Gambling doesn't effect those important things in life.
He takes care of his family, far from broke and gambling brings him entertainment.. so my question, would MJ be considered an addict? I argue he's not. He just loves to do it, but any negative effects may be literally zero ..
Wiki Definition "Addiction is a neuropsychological disorder characterized by a persistent and intense urge to use a drug or engage in a behaviour that produces natural reward, despite substantial harm and other negative consequences. Repetitive drug use often alters brain function in ways that perpetuate craving, and weakens (but does not completely negate) self-control.[1] This phenomenon – drugs reshaping brain function – has led to an understanding of addiction as a brain disorder with a complex variety of psychosocial as well as neurobiological (and thus involuntary)[a] factors that are implicated in addiction's development.[2][3][4] Classic signs of addiction include compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli, preoccupation with substances or behavior, and continued use despite negative consequences. Habits and patterns associated with addiction are typically characterized by immediate gratification (short-term reward),[5][6] coupled with delayed deleterious effects (long-term costs).[3][7]"
(sorry hilarious and cyrus, I know you see this same type of topic a trillion times a day but this is bit different and something I'm truly interested in discussing, being his situation is unique).
If i've seen you trading gambling for important things in your life like family members birthday, Meetings conferences and some Interviews even if you're a billionare, I can still call you a gambling addict. Why? no matter how rich you are, as long as you have no limitations in your time, spending and decisions, means you're already addicted on what you are doing. We can't sugarcoat it as a "hobby", if it gives you satisfaction and happiness but you've already lose large amount, then that's not a hobby, it's an obsession on what you are doing.
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December 20, 2023, 09:51:56 PM |
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He takes care of his family, far from broke and gambling brings him entertainment.. so my question, would MJ be considered an addict?
Addicts are those who doesn't have life balance — gambling addict. In which the opposite how you describe MJ is. I don't even considered Drake as addict too. Because these people have other life than gambling, gambling to them is just entertainment, a way to spend their money. Addiction is life imbalance, doesn't have a life except their addiction,
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Well there's a lot of internet meme as far as MJ's gambling addiction,
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But I guess if you are that guy that can make more than $1-5 million day from his endorsements and his shoes, then definitely you can play and burn that money without thinking about losing.
Call him gambling addict, but we all know how much this guy is worth. So for him, he is just having fun for sure when he gambles and then lose $1 million a day.
Numbers are really that something that not everyone would be able to reach and we do really just saw that these this something that had been burned to gambling on daily basis on which we cant really be able to avoid to tell that he had really that gambling addiction and this is something that absurd on spending up tons to gambling but just like been said that its none of our business and its his money to be spent. I wasnt aware on the money that he's earning came from sponsorships or whatsoever but if he's really that getting 1-5M per day then losing those 1M amount in gambling wont really be an issue. Did MJ admit that he was an addicted gambler? So far we havent see any impulsive actions that had been made by MJ. He do just simply burning out those cash in a fast manner and it is really just that people cant really be able to imagine on how big the money they've been burning into casinos or whatever gambling he's really that been doing. Lets just move on and let him do as he pleases since its money after all its not ours.
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I was recently arguing with someone whom stated that MJ is a gambling addict, and I pushed back. I think we could probably all agree that being addicted to anything is never good, no matter what it is. Michael is famous for being a big gambler.
If Micheal Jordan is a gambler, does it guarantee he's an addict?? I think that's what your topic would have been rather than this...
That aside; I think he's been gambling for a long time now and his varieties has been a spacious one... So it's safe to say he's about attached...okay; would you say Drake is an addict? Yes!! Cus why? He's been wagering lavishly and no matter how many times he's lost, nothing really changes.. I see an addict as a person that has wagered to a point of uncontrollable stake and speculations. ... They'd rather stake on an unsure odd than not. Sandra 🧑🦰
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I said many times that we all are addicts... What is defined as an addiction? Addiction is when you have a strong physical or psychological need or urge to do something or use something. And we all have strong physical or psychological needs or urges to do some things... deal with it, we are all humans, and we have our passions & desires. Ultimately, it is important whether we can control that or it will control us, whatever that is. And M. Jordan is a rich guy, he can afford to be addicted to whatever he wants and that will not hurt his business and family. Simply, he has too much money so he can afford to have it all.
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December 20, 2023, 10:01:45 PM |
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He takes care of his family, far from broke and gambling brings him entertainment.. so my question, would MJ be considered an addict? I argue he's not. He just loves to do it, but any negative effects may be literally zero ..
Wiki Definition "Addiction is a neuropsychological disorder characterized by a persistent and intense urge to use a drug or engage in a behaviour that produces natural reward, despite substantial harm and other negative consequences. Repetitive drug use often alters brain function in ways that perpetuate craving, and weakens (but does not completely negate) self-control.[1] This phenomenon – drugs reshaping brain function – has led to an understanding of addiction as a brain disorder with a complex variety of psychosocial as well as neurobiological (and thus involuntary)[a] factors that are implicated in addiction's development.[2][3][4] Classic signs of addiction include compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli, preoccupation with substances or behavior, and continued use despite negative consequences. Habits and patterns associated with addiction are typically characterized by immediate gratification (short-term reward),[5][6] coupled with delayed deleterious effects (long-term costs).[3][7]"
I think he is an obvious gambling addict and after watching his documentary I feel even more secure in feeling that way. Michael Jordan has a gambling problem definitely and even though he is tremendously successful and could gamble away a million dollars a day for the rest of his life and be fine, that doesn't change that he is an addict. Given the definition you are referencing above, I would say he most definitely had his life/career negatively effected by gambling, but then you'd have to believe the conspiracy that he was suspended for the 1994 and 1995 seasons for betting on his team and possibly even the reason his father was murdered...
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December 20, 2023, 10:02:25 PM |
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Well there's a lot of internet meme as far as MJ's gambling addiction, ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F12%2F20%2FIwTOw.png&t=665&c=29O0D7MURpAMWA) But I guess if you are that guy that can make more than $1-5 million day from his endorsements and his shoes, then definitely you can play and burn that money without thinking about losing. Call him gambling addict, but we all know how much this guy is worth. So for him, he is just having fun for sure when he gambles and then lose $1 million a day. Exactly what I also feel about his gambling activities, I mean what do we always preach here in the forum? "Always Gamble what you can afford to lose" right? Well that's exactly what Micheal Jordan is actually doing because the said money that it's talk about that he currently squanders is something that he earn on a single credit alert for the day so it's just as if he is actually gambling a little percentage of his earning just to enjoy himself and for the fun that comes with gambling. Same thing goes for drake and other fucking rich celebrity stars.
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December 20, 2023, 10:11:45 PM |
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He takes care of his family, far from broke and gambling brings him entertainment.. so my question, would MJ be considered an addict? I argue he's not. He just loves to do it, but any negative effects may be literally zero ..
Wiki Definition "Addiction is a neuropsychological disorder characterized by a persistent and intense urge to use a drug or engage in a behaviour that produces natural reward, despite substantial harm and other negative consequences. Repetitive drug use often alters brain function in ways that perpetuate craving, and weakens (but does not completely negate) self-control.[1] This phenomenon – drugs reshaping brain function – has led to an understanding of addiction as a brain disorder with a complex variety of psychosocial as well as neurobiological (and thus involuntary)[a] factors that are implicated in addiction's development.[2][3][4] Classic signs of addiction include compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli, preoccupation with substances or behavior, and continued use despite negative consequences. Habits and patterns associated with addiction are typically characterized by immediate gratification (short-term reward),[5][6] coupled with delayed deleterious effects (long-term costs).[3][7]"
I think he is an obvious gambling addict and after watching his documentary I feel even more secure in feeling that way. Michael Jordan has a gambling problem definitely and even though he is tremendously successful and could gamble away a million dollars a day for the rest of his life and be fine, that doesn't change that he is an addict. Given the definition you are referencing above, I would say he most definitely had his life/career negatively effected by gambling, but then you'd have to believe the conspiracy that he was suspended for the 1994 and 1995 seasons for betting on his team and possibly even the reason his father was murdered... well, we will never know the truth about those things but if you really do think about it. that's real possibility over there. but in any case, i also think that he has gambling addiction and it is no surprise as it is already public. social media, media and other platforms can give a glimpse of his gambling habits ... so i guess, he couldn't hide such lifestyle to anyone anymore. on the other hand, even if he has such addiction, he won't be having financial issues. or we don't know the things behind the curtain here. so for me, we should not make this as a problem or of that sort. that's his life and so far, he is enjoying it. life is too short to regret on things that you haven't done.
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December 20, 2023, 10:20:15 PM |
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The thing is that it doesn't have to end up with you losing everything you love and own for you to realize that you have a gambling problem, or you're already a gambling addict. Certain celebrities like MJ and Drake himself have been making ludicrous bets on a regular basis, which if they did without a strong financial foundation and a reputation of being "too big to fail at this point", they'd probably lose out. MJ even had speculations in the past of being banned by the NBA in the past due to his gambling addiction, covering it up as a retirement to make it seem as though their most recognizable player's not really in some deep gambling issues. He's been known to make stupid bets and lose it all on a night, only to go back the next day and bet it all again to lose the money in what can only be described as a cycle of losing money and finding it someplace else in the form of the Nike Jordan collaboration and some businesses he had.
MJ's good and all, greatest even if I do say so myself. But his gambling addiction is something to not scoff at. If a regular person does what he does (of course in their own way) you'd be concerned and have them stop before their gambling addiction worsened, but because it's Michael Jordan, arguably the greatest athlete of all time, we have to have this kind of discussion lol.
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December 20, 2023, 10:36:50 PM |
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I argue he's not. He just loves to do it, but any negative effects may be literally zero ..
I saw a topic on this forum about if a successful gambler is seen as an addict? Now I like to rephrase that a bit to, can a successful person be seen to be an addict? The answer will not be the same for every person because when someone is rich, many of their bad behaviors and addictions are excused. This is another excuse for another addicted gambler just because they are successful. Just like Drake, Ben Affleck and others, Michael Jordan is also an addict.
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December 20, 2023, 10:39:55 PM |
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There are classifications of gambling addiction and the same goes for the other types of addiction as well. We tend to say that someone has to gamble with the amount he can afford to lose and probably MJ does it and that's why he's now worth billions. He knows his thing and it can send him down to the pit if he loses his control there. As for the classifications, there goes the responsible and irresponsible ones. Well, that classification is just based on my opinion and I think that he's a responsible one and as much as we can see, he's able to achieve things despite being known as a gambler.
Like the other celebrities that are also addicted in gambling, they know how to include it on their stash and not to touch other assets and money that they have designated for other important things. So, the common tip that we say about gambling with an affordable amount to lose is what they've been doing. Well, I have never achieved such achivement in life and that's why they're all entitled to do whatever they can. That's one perk of being rich, you gamble all you want but at the same time you know that there's a limit on it and you know that it's possible that if you can't control yourself anymore, you're going to put everything on stake.
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