Features of the worldview of a gambler

[goldkingcoiner]

I watched videos about gambling addicts, in which the channel’s hosts interviewed them. I was amazed at how many of them were pathological optimists. More precisely, it’s hard for me to use the word optimism in conjunction with the word pathological, but still. Any loss for them is just a short-term nuisance. Optimism takes over and they play again and again, not paying attention to loans and debts.
       At the same time, many openly admit that they are gambling addicts. But they talk about it as a minor detail of their lives. They admit that they are gambling addicts, but this does not make them stop. They, as usual, strive to continue the game.
       I have repeatedly encountered the fact that the very concept of risk management is either unfamiliar to them or they do not attach enough serious importance to it.
I would highlight the following features:
1. Pathological optimism.
2. Lack of risk management.
3. The desire to understand some fundamental issues of the game (they talked about this themselves in interviews)
4. Love for the game process itself.
 What do you think are the features of the worldview of a gambler?

Your topic is named " Features of the worldview of a gambler " and yet you talk about gambling addicts. I think that is not the same thing and the two should not be equated. I have never exhibited any of the four features you mentioned but I gamble. I know my limits and I know when to stop. I am not optimistic but rather pessimistic about gambling, which is why I never gamble large amounts of money. And risk management is everything to me. I make sure to always follow my own risk management plan and it has saved me from a lot of heartache.

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[Fivestar4everMVP]

Nothing concerns gambling addicts with risk management except if they are not really that addicted, and by the way, a gambler who practices risk management will hardly get addicted, so, in essence, gambling addicts really don't care, or should I say, most of them don't  care.

And a couple of times, I actually come across gambling addicts who really knew that they were  addicted to gambling but seem to be enjoying it, that is, they seem nonchalant about the whole thing, but what I did notice is that, they were at peace with themselves, and I guess this is possible or probably because, they have good source of income, earning good money every month. So, because of this, they feel secure financially knowing fully well that they will never or may never go bankrupt, or experience financial stagnation due to gambling.

[Accardo]

One thing I know about gamblers and its addicts is that there is the believe and zeal to win is always there. They are optimistic to win and that is why they another game for next round try and unfortunately winning is not given on a platter of gold so either they fail more or they are just within a fair luck here and there as we know the house edge override the possibility for a winning over losing. There is a believe to win and that is why the next game is queued up without recourse to loses, debt loans or emotional stability.

The fact that the chance is always there to win is what make most people coming back and especially gamblers following that win.They of course have a pathological optimism that brings them to the casino again despite several heavy losing sessions before and if they did not have it then it means they would be more practical and pragmatic to stop playing or coming back to play at the casino,they lack also analysis of what just happened to them as they pass it as something normal when in fact it is not normal to lose a lot of money yet they think in the next session they will recover that money which is what leads to them coming back and back asking for more until they get addicted,they are pretty readable,the gamblers.

Yes and in this light one would wonder if optimism is used in the right sense by gambling addicts or that they are miss using it and allowing it to work on them wrongly because when you see that you have lost 1,2,3 and more times but you decide to be positively optimistic to stay and keep trying on it, on what the basis is luck.

Optimistic is suppose to be used for what you can have little or some control and then you add or strengthen your effort to make it work. For example if you have failed in an example and you know you didn't prepare very well for the exam, hence you can be optimistic to pass next time because you know you had no effort in the first time and that if you strengthen your effort the next time then you are likely to pass but gambling is not that way because the effort is not on your on influence or control and this is why addicts keep going deep as optimistic gamblers.

Having a strong hope that their gambling addiction is positive, puts them into a more serious gambling problem. The journey of gambling addiction is quite difficult, to the extent that they won't accept their problems. The losses don't count to the addicts, all they hope on is the future winning. Human brains are not programmed to reason differently. Whatever is expected of the brain to do in one aspect of life, it will also similarly do in another. That is why if we are pursuing a goal our brain won't stop until it's achieved. Hence in gambling the brain executes similar actions, thereby pushing gamblers to continue gambling not minding the disadvantages. And the house is also aware of the reaction of the brain towards gamblers, especially when chasing for a win. So, just asking addicts whether they're addicted or not, doesn't help any of them to heal. It's only a way of deriving a view for the show presenters.

Doing that is more of a way of escalating the problem to more people who watch the show. As Op mentioned, these people lack control and already don't feel remorse for their problems. It's normal to see addicts who don't feel a thing about losing much money in gambling. Life is normal to them, even they'll think that nonaddicts are the silly ones, not them. Addiction works strangely, the brain has been restructured to love gambling more than anything else. Hence no need to expect a negative answer from an addicted gambler about what he feels about his bad habit. Unless he's now on the near line of escaping addiction, he'll always be proud of gambling. Nobody hates what they truly love. Hence, since the continuous effort doesn't yield any positive result, it's not enough to stop the player from gambling, even though it's causing him much trouble each day. Building a relationship with the addict is great in saving him from problem gambling.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

For a gambling addict to admit that they are addicted is one step toward their solution, but only talking about it will not make them stop. For example, if I am a drunker and I agree that yeah, I am a drunker, admitting the fact and telling people about it will not make me stop drinking; I will still be urged to drink, but if I have the ability to resist such an urge, then there is a tendency to prevent myself from drinking. So, as a compulsive gambler, the first thing is to admit that he or she is a compulsive gambler, and the second thing is to discipline themselves from gambling compulsively. The person should seek help from people around them, mostly loved ones. Gambling is one thing I know that if someone is into it, it becomes difficult to resist doing it, but the person just needs to practice self-control, or gambling will be in control of them.

[KTChampions]

I watched videos about gambling addicts, in which the channel’s hosts interviewed them. I was amazed at how many of them were pathological optimists. More precisely, it’s hard for me to use the word optimism in conjunction with the word pathological, but still. Any loss for them is just a short-term nuisance. Optimism takes over and they play again and again, not paying attention to loans and debts.
       At the same time, many openly admit that they are gambling addicts. But they talk about it as a minor detail of their lives. They admit that they are gambling addicts, but this does not make them stop. They, as usual, strive to continue the game.
       I have repeatedly encountered the fact that the very concept of risk management is either unfamiliar to them or they do not attach enough serious importance to it.
I would highlight the following features:
1. Pathological optimism.
2. Lack of risk management.
3. The desire to understand some fundamental issues of the game (they talked about this themselves in interviews)
4. Love for the game process itself.
 What do you think are the features of the worldview of a gambler?

Oh you!  
I know (I am 99% sure that I know) what country you are from. If you look around, you will be convinced that everything that you have listed in relation to gamblers works perfectly for 90% of the population of that country   The situation has been developing for years (for more than 10 years) from bad to worse, but the majority, instead of making the necessary decisions, continue to remain optimistic and somehow adapt. Risk management and more complex things are not even worth mentioning. It’s funny, but in my opinion, the fact that some gamblers do not understand that the casino has an advantage over them is more understandable than the fact that the majority of the population does not understand how the government robs them through inflation.

As for the fact that gamblers understand that they are gamblers but continue to play, there is no paradox here either - I know that many alcoholics also understand the harmfulness of their habit. In both cases, the point is that people are willing to pay for positive emotions (which they receive in such a perverted way) not just with their money, but also with their health and other risks. People are irrational, you have to accept that.

[Su-asa]

For a gambling addict to admit that they are addicted is one step toward their solution, but only talking about it will not make them stop. For example, if I am a drunker and I agree that yeah, I am a drunker, admitting the fact and telling people about it will not make me stop drinking; I will still be urged to drink, but if I have the ability to resist such an urge, then there is a tendency to prevent myself from drinking. So, as a compulsive gambler, the first thing is to admit that he or she is a compulsive gambler, and the second thing is to discipline themselves from gambling compulsively. The person should seek help from people around them, mostly loved ones. Gambling is one thing I know that if someone is into it, it becomes difficult to resist doing it, but the person just needs to practice self-control, or gambling will be in control of them.

Correct, it is not everybody that will agree of what they do, as you may know, it is hard to agreed that one is doing something wrong, even when they know that they are not doing the right things, but people can admit that they are doing the right thing if really they are doing it.
it is hard to quit gamble so everyone must be so careful he or she is dealing with gamble.

[alani123]

Gambling addiction is a very real issue it the fact that so many people fall in this type of addiction without being able to get any help, goes to show how our society has failed to improve it's infrastructure for those that need it most. We have so many people addicted to gambling these days, and they are barely able to function within society's rules due to this issue. Imagine how much better the world would be if they would be able to get better help...

[Ruttoshi]

They're not going to stop because they're addicts, I think that's been the reason for their interview in the first place, I don't think that they'll be stopping anytime soon if they're addicted, sure there's some addicts that's wishing or planning to stop in the future but their current mindset is that they need to get their fix and gamble more to feed the addiction. I'd like to go on a limb and say that the reason why they're unfamiliar with risk management is that they haven't heard of it before or someone misinterpreted it to them somewhere along the way or they've been built up as a kid where risks are always taken and that they're encouraged to do risky things.

If they learn a hard lesson from gambling, maybe that would make them stop for rehabilitation. I believe that they are having some good and bad times and they are still hoping that they will make profit from gambling as this is the first thing that led them to addiction.

As for risk management, I never knew of this until I joined this forum and that is how many gamblers are out there just gambling without knowing the risk management in gambling and this is why even as they are losing, they continue gambling and hoping the next game will be the winning game.

[maydna]

Many gamblers feel optimistic when playing gambling and think they can win some money when in reality, they have difficulty winning from gambling games. These people have lost a lot of money in gambling but have not stopped themselves or even reduced their gambling activities because they feel they can win. And many of them are addicted to gambling but don't want to stop gambling before they win. Unfortunately, many of them don't understand how to manage the risks of gambling because they still gamble often and even use more money. For wise gamblers, they continue to try to manage and reduce the loss of their money in gambling, but not for gambling addicts.

Well, maybe they are still unfamiliar with risk management but if they don't learn it soon, they could lose even more money. They must immediately cure their gambling addiction because it can get worse and will cost them all their money. But it depends on the wishes of each gambler because if they still want to gamble more intensively, they will not be able to stop gambling.

[GiftedMAN]

3. The desire to understand some fundamental issues of the game (they talked about this themselves in interviews)

I don't quite believe this, unless that desire is something like a desire to understand it better in order to make money. Understanding casino games is very simple if you know not very complex maths like taking a percentage and compound interest. The only thing you have to understand is the House Edge and how it acts as compound interest against you every time you bet. But of course, if you understood this you would be thinking about investing in a casino or setting one up, not continuing to gamble.

It would be good if OP make some clarification about this. I noticed something about addicted gamblers, they believe that if everyone is losing money on a particular game, they believe that they can study the game better and translate it into money. They will try different strategies to win but continue to lose. I think this is what OP is talking about. And it is true, that is how addicts think without thinking more about risk management.

Addiction can easily be gotten if we are not careful about the kind of decisions we are making. Gambling has it own risk and too much of consistency can lead to gambling addiction. There are level of addiction and when it reaches a level called the acute addiction, we can still adjust and control ourselves. Acute addiction can easily to relinquish with the help of chancellor and family members. Getting rid of it does not take too long. The Chronic addiction is what we need to try to stop because it is very difficult to get rid of it. This stage it is unlikely to scape or get rid of it due to many factors.

[AmoreJaz]

Many gamblers feel optimistic when playing gambling and think they can win some money when in reality, they have difficulty winning from gambling games. These people have lost a lot of money in gambling but have not stopped themselves or even reduced their gambling activities because they feel they can win. And many of them are addicted to gambling but don't want to stop gambling before they win. Unfortunately, many of them don't understand how to manage the risks of gambling because they still gamble often and even use more money. For wise gamblers, they continue to try to manage and reduce the loss of their money in gambling, but not for gambling addicts.

Well, maybe they are still unfamiliar with risk management but if they don't learn it soon, they could lose even more money. They must immediately cure their gambling addiction because it can get worse and will cost them all their money. But it depends on the wishes of each gambler because if they still want to gamble more intensively, they will not be able to stop gambling.

most gamblers definitely have the ambition of winning big at some point in their gambling life. thus, they tend to continue this habit and look for this possibility. unfortunately, a lot can easily be burned because of this belief. i guess, that's the usual dilemma of gamblers, aiming for a big win but sadly, the opposite of this happens.

[Bananington]

Many gamblers feel optimistic when playing gambling and think they can win some money when in reality, they have difficulty winning from gambling games. These people have lost a lot of money in gambling but have not stopped themselves or even reduced their gambling activities because they feel they can win. And many of them are addicted to gambling but don't want to stop gambling before they win. Unfortunately, many of them don't understand how to manage the risks of gambling because they still gamble often and even use more money. For wise gamblers, they continue to try to manage and reduce the loss of their money in gambling, but not for gambling addicts.

Well, maybe they are still unfamiliar with risk management but if they don't learn it soon, they could lose even more money. They must immediately cure their gambling addiction because it can get worse and will cost them all their money. But it depends on the wishes of each gambler because if they still want to gamble more intensively, they will not be able to stop gambling.

most gamblers definitely have the ambition of winning big at some point in their gambling life. thus, they tend to continue this habit and look for this possibility. unfortunately, a lot can easily be burned because of this belief. i guess, that's the usual dilemma of gamblers, aiming for a big win but sadly, the opposite of this happens.

We just have to come to a conclusion that optimism is a huge part of a gamblers life, hence why they return even after a resounding loss.
Being a gambler takes a lot of gut, because one has to have a source where the money comes in from to sponsor such a habit and I know that a once in a while win, keeps the motivation to gamble alive, this contributes to one of the constituents of the worldview of a gambler.

[lionheart78]

I watched videos about gambling addicts, in which the channel’s hosts interviewed them. I was amazed at how many of them were pathological optimists. More precisely, it’s hard for me to use the word optimism in conjunction with the word pathological, but still. Any loss for them is just a short-term nuisance. Optimism takes over and they play again and again, not paying attention to loans and debts.
       At the same time, many openly admit that they are gambling addicts. But they talk about it as a minor detail of their lives. They admit that they are gambling addicts, but this does not make them stop. They, as usual, strive to continue the game.
       I have repeatedly encountered the fact that the very concept of risk management is either unfamiliar to them or they do not attach enough serious importance to it.

Remember these people are gambling addicts.  Everything is a minor issue for them, what a major issue is when they can't satisfy their urge to gamble.  They have uncontrolled behavior when it comes to gambling, it is also obvious that their point of view might be distorted due to being a gambling addict.  They might try to say something that will support their addiction and make them look not bad in front of people.  They may shrug off issues of losing but obviously they can't shrug off the issue of not able to do their gambling activities.

For gambling addicts their world is the gambling activities that is why they keep on gambling even if they knew they are gambling addicts unless they wanted to turn on a new page.

[arimamib]

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We just have to come to a conclusion that optimism is a huge part of a gamblers life, hence why they return even after a resounding loss.
Being a gambler takes a lot of gut, because one has to have a source where the money comes in from to sponsor such a habit and I know that a once in a while win, keeps the motivation to gamble alive, this contributes to one of the constituents of the worldview of a gambler.

Optimism is a crucial aspect that keeps them returning to the activity even after experiencing losses. The nature of gambling is inherently uncertain, and the belief in the possibility of winning is a driving force that sustains the interest and motivation of gamblers. Being a gambler requires a certain level of courage and gut instinct. It involves taking risks, both financially and emotionally, and having the confidence to place bets in the hope of a favorable outcome.

The willingness to embrace uncertainty and make decisions based on predictions or probabilities is an integral part of the gambling experience. Gamblers need a source of income to fund their habit. It's a lifestyle choice that involves allocating resources for the purpose of betting. While losses are inevitable in gambling, the occasional win serves as a motivating factor. A single win can rejuvenate a gambler's optimism, reinforcing the belief that favorable outcomes are possible and contributing to the overall worldview of a gambler.

[blockman]

Too much optimism is bad and if it's applied in gambling, you're going to be putting yourself in a much clearer space that no matter what you do as long as you're gambling then no one's will ever gonna stop you. And that's gonna result into a bad situation that you'll never like but can we stop them? As I've said, it's a clear space, a clear thing that no one's going to stop them from taking loans/debts and will use the money from there to gamble. Only themselves can stop their own point of view when the things don't go accordingly over their optimistic minds. There is always a limitation for everything and these gamblers will eventually realize that but only when it's too late.

What is clear is that too much is not good, it's addictive. This affects the brain and way of thinking, an addict will not care about what he will do, what the results will be, no matter how bad it is. If left unchecked, it will be very dangerous, possibly threatening the economy, selling the house and other valuables, getting into debt and even stealing.

It's true that you say it all depends on self-control, maybe a feeling of regret can provide enlightenment and encouragement to stop things from getting worse.

That's right being too much won't give you good results. On the other hand, someone can make it addicted and someone can luckily just hit the numbers and win them all. But with those cases, they are rare when someone is gambling too much and staying in the casino for so long. You'll never hear people that stays there quite often having good results and that's why it is important to remember that you have to do your things in balance. While there are many distractions when you gamble and it is trying to convince you to do this and that or bet more, don't get confused with it because that's part of the psychological effect that's being done by the casinos for you to stay and become too optimistic.

[Tipstar]

I watched videos about gambling addicts, in which the channel’s hosts interviewed them. I was amazed at how many of them were pathological optimists. More precisely, it’s hard for me to use the word optimism in conjunction with the word pathological, but still. Any loss for them is just a short-term nuisance. Optimism takes over and they play again and again, not paying attention to loans and debts.
       At the same time, many openly admit that they are gambling addicts. But they talk about it as a minor detail of their lives. They admit that they are gambling addicts, but this does not make them stop. They, as usual, strive to continue the game.
       I have repeatedly encountered the fact that the very concept of risk management is either unfamiliar to them or they do not attach enough serious importance to it.
I would highlight the following features:
1. Pathological optimism.
2. Lack of risk management.
3. The desire to understand some fundamental issues of the game (they talked about this themselves in interviews)
4. Love for the game process itself.
 What do you think are the features of the worldview of a gambler?

Nicely explained. The problem with gambling addict is they think they have a chance of winning but they don't. There can be one or several large winnings but on the long run, the maths of odds would be largely visible and no one wins more than they lose. Every game has a house edge be it sports betting or lottery. You may thing it's your analysis that made you pick the right option but put those wins and losses in long term and they'll come similar to the house edge you get in other games.
The problem with gambling addict is either they don't consider probability and if they do, they believe they can beat it.

[klidex]

For a gambling addict to admit that they are addicted is one step toward their solution, but only talking about it will not make them stop. For example, if I am a drunker and I agree that yeah, I am a drunker, admitting the fact and telling people about it will not make me stop drinking; I will still be urged to drink, but if I have the ability to resist such an urge, then there is a tendency to prevent myself from drinking. So, as a compulsive gambler, the first thing is to admit that he or she is a compulsive gambler, and the second thing is to discipline themselves from gambling compulsively. The person should seek help from people around them, mostly loved ones. Gambling is one thing I know that if someone is into it, it becomes difficult to resist doing it, but the person just needs to practice self-control, or gambling will be in control of them.

It is true that most gamblers who are addicted actually realize that they are addicted to gambling, but they continue to carry out their activities because there is no urge that can stop them if within themselves they have no intention of avoiding this addiction. As long as they are able to gamble, they will not have a problem even though they are at the addiction stage because what is in their minds is to continue playing without stopping because someone who is addicted has a big ambition to win large bets, this ambition is what drives gamblers to continue carry out the action.

A compulsive gambler cannot discipline themselves easily if they do not have a strong urge to regulate themselves not to gamble compulsively because basically compulsive gamblers only admit that they are gamblers but do not want to make efforts to stop or control themselves. However, if a compulsive gambler wants to express that they need help it will help them a little to push through their addiction to regulate their self-control.

[Julien_Olynpic]

3. The desire to understand some fundamental issues of the game (they talked about this themselves in interviews)

I don't quite believe this, unless that desire is something like a desire to understand it better in order to make money. Understanding casino games is very simple if you know not very complex maths like taking a percentage and compound interest. The only thing you have to understand is the House Edge and how it acts as compound interest against you every time you bet. But of course, if you understood this you would be thinking about investing in a casino or setting one up, not continuing to gamble.

This idea was voiced in a recent interview. Once upon a time there was a girl player who was fond of poker and dreamed of learning the secrets of this game. At the same time, she was constantly losing money. It got to the point that she moved into a hostel and lived on random income. When the host asked her if she wanted to quit playing poker, she replied that she had no plans to do so. After all, she still hasn’t learned all the secrets of this game.

[borovichok]

I watched videos about gambling addicts, in which the channel’s hosts interviewed them. I was amazed at how many of them were pathological optimists. More precisely, it’s hard for me to use the word optimism in conjunction with the word pathological, but still. Any loss for them is just a short-term nuisance. Optimism takes over and they play again and again, not paying attention to loans and debts.
       At the same time, many openly admit that they are gambling addicts. But they talk about it as a minor detail of their lives. They admit that they are gambling addicts, but this does not make them stop. They, as usual, strive to continue the game.
       I have repeatedly encountered the fact that the very concept of risk management is either unfamiliar to them or they do not attach enough serious importance to it.
I would highlight the following features:
1. Pathological optimism.
2. Lack of risk management.
3. The desire to understand some fundamental issues of the game (they talked about this themselves in interviews)
4. Love for the game process itself.
 What do you think are the features of the worldview of a gambler?

Nicely explained. The problem with gambling addict is they think they have a chance of winning but they don't. There can be one or several large winnings but on the long run, the maths of odds would be largely visible and no one wins more than they lose. Every game has a house edge be it sports betting or lottery. You may thing it's your analysis that made you pick the right option but put those wins and losses in long term and they'll come similar to the house edge you get in other games.
The problem with gambling addict is either they don't consider probability and if they do, they believe they can beat it.

One amazing things with gambling addicts, they don't accept that they're addicts, rather they will will dropped comments about indulging in gambling for low stakes and fun, never will they accept it with full mind. We're grownup and know specifically how the system operates and the high number of defeats and losses that are recorded on daily basis from the pockets of gambling addicts, I felt really sad for most of them that can not fall back to normal activities and gambling becomes their routine. Gambling addicts possess this mentality of winning hugh figures from betting, a day will not pass by without these addicts having strong belief in the system.

[lombok]

While there are many distractions when you gamble and it is trying to convince you to do this and that or bet more, don't get confused with it because that's part of the psychological effect that's being done by the casinos for you to stay and become too optimistic.

Like a special effect. Psychological attacks are very impact, and tend to be very difficult to cure it takes time. I am sure that with a strong psychological we are also able to control the game and be able to get victory, in contrast to the weak psychology, we will be controlled so the loss will be greater we get.