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December 26, 2023, 05:14:22 PM
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The essence of people who gamble is of course to seek curiosity and try their luck and fantasize, how they can double their money instantly, Usually when they start or try to play for the first time and win enough bets there, it's very easy for them to get money from gambling.

And from the winnings he gets and this is where the gambler's ego and mindset become out of control, usually someone gets a pretty good card, that's where the ego arises from a gambler to increase the bet or an all in happens. And sometimes the final result is losing. That's what sometimes bothers a gambler's mind. Sometimes even good cards don't guarantee us winning the game.

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December 26, 2023, 05:49:17 PM
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Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
Is like you don't know what addicted is all about OP, because anything you are doing in life and you want to quit from such thing and you still find yourself doing it show that you are addicted such behavior in the society and you need a psychologist to help you out before it will lead you to destruction. But if you are not addicted to gambling, I guess is very easy for you to stop gambling by avoiding those things that is leading you to gambling and, with time you will begin to cope without gambling from your environment.

Don't be addicted to gambling, so that if you want to leave gambling will be easy for you to quit gambling by having some budget in your daily or weekly gambling whether you win from your bet or you don't win from your bet you will not gamble above your budget which is the best way not to be addicted to gambling in the community.

Op is saying something contradictory, but he's saying out of his view on gambling and why some people can't leave. He's never been in a situation like this and has not helped someone else escape addiction. Hence Op is not fit or the right person to send out such a message to gamblers. His view only shows how other nongamblers would think of gambling addiction. They'll look at it as the addict's fault and also, he, the addict, is not interested in changing. Not knowing that it's not in the gambler's jurisdiction to change. The same type of people also blame gamblers, like Op is trying to say in his way that it's the gambler's fault to remain in gambling, despite losing money. I'd say that gamblers are humans and deserve love, it's not common for somebody to stick to something that's eating up his time and wealth. But, their loved ones, fail to conclude that these people don't understand or feel what's happening in their life.

For instance, a mentally ill person doesn't feel any pain, whenever s/he sustains injury. Meaning that the part of the brain responsible for indicating or reminding the brain about an injury may have been damaged or is not responsive. Gambling addicts also undergo the same problems. If nobody is present to stop them or control their ill behavior they'll never change or have a rethink. Stopping gambling won't be easy for them as it's not putting them into any type of pain directly. Rather his loved ones are enduring the pains on the gambler's behalf, which may be the anger of OP. He is concerned about the pain the addict is sending out to his parents or loved one. The society is angry with them and blames them for not being in control or trying to end the problem. Yes, it's tiring and at some point, we'll blame them for the suffering they're causing their loved ones, but that doesn't help any gambler heal. A good relationship heals them, instead.

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December 26, 2023, 05:57:07 PM
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Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

When you become a gambling addicts it becomes very hard to quit gambling but if you're not yet addicted to gambling you can quit by reducing your gambling time. Sometimes we want to quit but we can't as we have been so used to gambling that we can't do without it. Controlling your emotional is very important when gambling so when you're not winning and want to quit, it won't be difficult for you. Individuals that want to stop gambling, they should start by reducing the time they spend gambling.

Casino don't force gamblers to gamble but they can make gambling very attractive with bonuses and introducing interesting games that you can't hold back from gambling and that's the reason self control is important when gambling. Also when you're a disciplined gamblers you can guide yourself to stop gambling when you notice gambling is no longer making you profits.



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December 26, 2023, 06:06:39 PM
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true and that is another reason why it is very difficult for gamblers to stop betting because they cannot leave their cell phones and the internet, as long as they still use them they can still access gambling sites whenever they want,
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Mobile phones and internet have become necessities that cannot be left behind, and it can access everything easily.
Online gambling sites are also increasing, many are trusted and many are just scam sites.

Not only on Online sites, gaming Apps are now also available with games that are synonymous with gambling,
but that only use coins as payment for playing and betting.



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I view gambling in the same way I view other sports or other entertainment, and I view gambling as entertainment only. Gambling as a pastime is definitely doing me good. Even though I gamble for entertainment, I am now able to earn some money from it which is helping me a lot in supporting my family.
Viewing gambling as entertainment is the right way to avoid addiction.
This view will give us a broader mindset about gambling and not just as a game that makes losses and even makes someone addicted.

Gambling will be better if it is only considered as a fun entertainment game and use the funds that have been provided specifically for gambling.
If with such small funds you can win and Jackpot, then it is successful gambling.

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December 26, 2023, 06:08:21 PM
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OP I don’t think you understand the meaning of addiction. It’s extremely difficult to quit an addiction even if the addict has come to terms that they have a problem and it’s affecting their lives. Saying anyone can choose to stop gambling at any time is a ignorant statement. Gambling addiction is a serious problem and some medical experts have classified it as a mental disorder. One needs more than self will and discipline to quit gambling, it’s not enough that you want to stop, you have to totally avoid situations that trigger your urge to bet.
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December 26, 2023, 06:13:35 PM
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The essence of people who gamble is of course to seek curiosity and try their luck and fantasize, how they can double their money instantly, Usually when they start or try to play for the first time and win enough bets there, it's very easy for them to get money from gambling.

And from the winnings he gets and this is where the gambler's ego and mindset become out of control, usually someone gets a pretty good card, that's where the ego arises from a gambler to increase the bet or an all in happens. And sometimes the final result is losing. That's what sometimes bothers a gambler's mind. Sometimes even good cards don't guarantee us winning the game.

Gambling had been a way that is making many people to more on betting so that they can taken are of there bills. Gambling can be toxin and full of problems if we don't have a way we can be doing to help us not get into addiction. There are some gamblers who are so pompous and can do anything to make money. We can be very be good in gambling and still keep losing money if we don't know whatbwe are doing. For of those of us that rely on gambling to get some of our bills settled, we need to keep doing what is going to help us stay safe and concentrated without becoming addictive to gambling.

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December 26, 2023, 06:20:52 PM
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Isn't it just a question of self-control? We frequently underestimate our own willpower. It is us who give in to temptation, not the bets that command us. The distinction between problem gambling and casual betting becomes hazy at this point. For many, healthy gambling is a myth since it necessitates a discipline that is frequently disregarded. Balance is essential, just like while walking on a tightrope. We run the risk of sinking into the depths of addiction the instant we tilt too much towards the thrill. It's important to know when to quit gambling as much as how to do it.

Thus, it is important to remember the human element while discussing gambling. It's a test of self-control as much as skill as luck. The true victory is in being our own masters, not in winning the bet. That is the main point of contention. Merry Christmas (sorry for this late Merry), but don't forget that power is the real prize!

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December 26, 2023, 06:34:48 PM
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Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?
No body just finds them self gambling, every gambler we have today actually decided on their own to gamble, they learnt the part which they need to learn and there after, they started gambling,  I do believe that people can just all of a sudden find their self gambling, and neither can one be hypnotized into gambling.

Whether to Gamble or not, is a choice which every one makes at some point in life, like myself, i could have started gambling very early in life, but I completely turned it down when I was introduced to it by a friend of mine, it was much later that, I decide on my own to start gambling, this was when I was much older, and lived in an area where if you are not gambling, every body sees you as an awkward person.
So, I started gambling on my own, I did not just wake up one morning to find myself gambling.

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December 26, 2023, 06:37:24 PM
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Many gamblers finds it somehow difficult to overcome gambling mostly when they starts losing their bets. But the truth is just so simple for a gambler to quit but they just can't and that's the real fact about gambling,, so op don't think it's easy to stop. It is not but if you have the mind to stop you can.
Honestly speaking, if you have not involved in anything that has to do with gambling, you can never understand how things works inside the gambling world,,, just like how those that have not invested into Bitcoin can not understand or have any holding experience about Bitcoin.
I am just trying to say that, if you have not bet before you can not also understand how gambling is, those that have not gambled will always think it is so easy to quit but believe me when I said it is hard but it is only you who can control your self by stopping when you know that you are not getting winnings.
Even if your are receiving advice from people, your own is just to listen to them but after listening, if you like to do what they said you can and if you don't like the advices then you can continue,,, theys why I said no one can control your gambe habits unless you.

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December 26, 2023, 06:55:08 PM
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In this life, there are so many temptations that it is not easy to resist them. Of course, many gamblers realize that they lose money on gambling and can even limit themselves from gambling for a while, but it brings them some kind of discomfort. All of us are given life once and is there a point to live in discomfort and infringe on their desires? This is a question to which I have never been able to give myself an answer.  

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December 26, 2023, 07:00:36 PM
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more precisely, gambling simply provides a place to seek pleasure and if gamblers have entered into gambling it means they already know all the risks and have full control over everything they do.
so the title of your thread is very correct if addiction is a result of being irresponsible for gambling because you cannot control yourself and cannot control your thought patterns so that gambler becomes addicted because of his own behavior which wrongly considers gambling to be too excessive. gambling will never go wrong because they only provide facilities for having fun and all the risks are borne by each gambler.

on the one hand, many gamblers become addicted in just a few days and its all because of a wrong understanding of gambling. If only they didn't think too much about gambling, they definitely wouldn't be addicted and there are also a lot of gamblers who aren't addicted because they dont understand too much how to do it. gambling work and only bet small amounts without placing any hope in gambling.

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December 27, 2023, 01:31:53 PM
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Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

Mate it is very difficult to stop gambling, that's why you will hear most people say don't involve yourself because quitting might be very difficult, little gambling begets excessive gambling, no matter how we twist it, gambling is not a good habit, most gambling has tried every means to stop gambling but to no avail, is not that they don't want to quit totally but the is the ability to adapt strictly is absent, any character is very difficult to either stop or curtail, most time, do you know that when a gambler win a bet or gambling he or she will now have the zeal to go for more, when a gambler loses he sees the next move as an opportunity to recover loses, so this stuff is not as easy as is been said, if you are into this game fully you will understand what am saying.

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December 27, 2023, 01:36:46 PM
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but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

The problem on user like you that providing comment like this while it’s too obvious that you are not gambling personally didn’t know exactly how people with gambling experience feel.

I’m not a regular gambler that gambling in daily basis but I can’t take out of my system gambling even though I’m less exposed. I always find a way to play during my free time even once a week or a month. It’s very hard to completely stop gambling especially if you always saw any form of gambling in the web due to advertisement.

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December 27, 2023, 02:00:09 PM
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Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

When you become a gambling addicts it becomes very hard to quit gambling but if you're not yet addicted to gambling you can quit by reducing your gambling time. Sometimes we want to quit but we can't as we have been so used to gambling that we can't do without it. Controlling your emotional is very important when gambling so when you're not winning and want to quit, it won't be difficult for you. Individuals that want to stop gambling, they should start by reducing the time they spend gambling.

Casino don't force gamblers to gamble but they can make gambling very attractive with bonuses and introducing interesting games that you can't hold back from gambling and that's the reason self control is important when gambling. Also when you're a disciplined gamblers you can guide yourself to stop gambling when you notice gambling is no longer making you profits.

In my opinion, someone who is addicted to gambling is because they themselves cannot resist the temptation to gamble and in the end they become addicted to gambling, where they cannot resist their desire to gamble because it has become a habit that is difficult to stop, many people who are addicted to gambling and find it difficult to stop gambling, this is because gambling has become a habit, and they themselves don't want to try to change this habit, as you said, they can reduce their gambling time or the gambling activities they usually do in small ways. This is what can be done to reduce a person's level of addiction.
You are right, no casino forces someone to gamble at their casino but the casino provides the best advertising to attract many people, attracting not forcing. This needs to be paid attention to because many people gamble because they are attracted to existing advertisements and are addicted because they themselves cannot limit their gambling activities. Also many people wrongly respond to gambling where they consider gambling as a source of making money which is certainly wrong, because it is better to think of gambling as a means of paid entertainment only, if they wrongly respond to gambling then it is clear they will chase winnings which will make them become gambling addiction.

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December 27, 2023, 02:09:32 PM
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Anyone that is gambling and not able to control it simply means that the person is becoming an addict already or he is already an addict. If you are gambling and you are losing but not able to control it but you continue to lose and you continue to gamble, that means you are an addict.
How about if you are winning and you can't stop? can it still be considered as gambling addict?

I know the question sounds weird because most addicts are losers, but what if we are on the other side, that we are addicted to gambling because it is consistently helping us earning money, it's literrally easy money as they say gambling is easy money, if you are winning.
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December 27, 2023, 02:32:49 PM
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Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

Mate it is very difficult to stop gambling, that's why you will hear most people say don't involve yourself because quitting might be very difficult, little gambling begets excessive gambling, no matter how we twist it, gambling is not a good habit, most gambling has tried every means to stop gambling but to no avail, is not that they don't want to quit totally but the is the ability to adapt strictly is absent, any character is very difficult to either stop or curtail, most time, do you know that when a gambler win a bet or gambling he or she will now have the zeal to go for more, when a gambler loses he sees the next move as an opportunity to recover loses, so this stuff is not as easy as is been said, if you are into this game fully you will understand what am saying.
I believe what you have said and looking at the whole thing inside the gambling world,, I will say that you are absolutely correct.
However, as it is very easy to get involved into gamble but looking at the whole concept of gamble, it is very hard to quit gambling, even when you know you are going to far in betting you can not also stop it, not because you love it but because you are still trying to check if you can get back all those or little of what you have lost while gambling.
Moreover, that is how it is inside the gambling world, but believe me when I say this, that truly it is just selfishness that makes a gambler not to stop gamble even at the time he or she knows that he's losing big money.

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December 27, 2023, 02:45:32 PM
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Why do people make bets? First of all, to get quick money, as well as to get emotions and somehow brighten up gray everyday life. If a person constantly loses, it does not reduce the chances of a big win; perhaps, if the player analyzes his mistakes and choose another type of gambling, he will reach success
People gamble for many reasons. Some people want to earn money, and some people want to have fun in their spare time. But everyone will experience heightened emotions, and if they don't understand it, they will only get deeper into gambling without being able to stop themselves from gambling. If they could realize that if they were experiencing a losing streak, they should immediately stop gambling, and they would be able to avoid major losses. But unfortunately, this triggers them to gamble using more money. Many people think that they can get big wins with that big money, even though that's not what will happen.

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December 27, 2023, 02:54:52 PM
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but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

The problem on user like you that providing comment like this while it’s too obvious that you are not gambling personally didn’t know exactly how people with gambling experience feel.

I’m not a regular gambler that gambling in daily basis but I can’t take out of my system gambling even though I’m less exposed. I always find a way to play during my free time even once a week or a month. It’s very hard to completely stop gambling especially if you always saw any form of gambling in the web due to advertisement.
The signs you expressed are really dangerous when you only have very limited exposure to gambling but it's frustrating not being able to gamble every week, I have had these feelings several times and the reality is that we are enchanted and seduced by this system, each individual will have their own special sensory characteristics and it is difficult to distinguish when we are addicted. Although it is easy to give up a few times but we have never seen an end to this path, like a benign tumor and we don't know what to prepare.

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December 27, 2023, 03:18:25 PM
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Why do people make bets? First of all, to get quick money, as well as to get emotions and somehow brighten up gray everyday life. If a person constantly loses, it does not reduce the chances of a big win; perhaps, if the player analyzes his mistakes and choose another type of gambling, he will reach success
People gamble for many reasons. Some people want to earn money, and some people want to have fun in their spare time. But everyone will experience heightened emotions, and if they don't understand it, they will only get deeper into gambling without being able to stop themselves from gambling. If they could realize that if they were experiencing a losing streak, they should immediately stop gambling, and they would be able to avoid major losses. But unfortunately, this triggers them to gamble using more money. Many people think that they can get big wins with that big money, even though that's not what will happen.
It is not easy to control yourself, let alone stop gambling when you experience a losing streak, this must be done consistently, even people who are used to gambling are still carried away by emotions so they continue to gamble and chase losses, that is why it is important to control yourself from the start so that when you start gambling you are used to it. Stop the game when you experience a losing streak or it's time for you to stop gambling.

The easiest thing to set off as an alarm is to limit your gambling time and budget so that when your budget runs out and your gambling time is up you can stop gambling, that's why people who consistently control themselves know when they should gamble and when they should stop gambling. It is important to understand and know your own abilities before trying gambling.

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December 27, 2023, 04:03:28 PM
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Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
Is like you don't know what addicted is all about OP, because anything you are doing in life and you want to quit from such thing and you still find yourself doing it show that you are addicted such behavior in the society and you need a psychologist to help you out before it will lead you to destruction. But if you are not addicted to gambling, I guess is very easy for you to stop gambling by avoiding those things that is leading you to gambling and, with time you will begin to cope without gambling from your environment.

Don't be addicted to gambling, so that if you want to leave gambling will be easy for you to quit gambling by having some budget in your daily or weekly gambling whether you win from your bet or you don't win from your bet you will not gamble above your budget which is the best way not to be addicted to gambling in the community.

Op is saying something contradictory, but he's saying out of his view on gambling and why some people can't leave. He's never been in a situation like this and has not helped someone else escape addiction. Hence Op is not fit or the right person to send out such a message to gamblers. His view only shows how other nongamblers would think of gambling addiction. They'll look at it as the addict's fault and also, he, the addict, is not interested in changing. Not knowing that it's not in the gambler's jurisdiction to change. The same type of people also blame gamblers, like Op is trying to say in his way that it's the gambler's fault to remain in gambling, despite losing money. I'd say that gamblers are humans and deserve love, it's not common for somebody to stick to something that's eating up his time and wealth. But, their loved ones, fail to conclude that these people don't understand or feel what's happening in their life.
There are a host of things in life that are easier said than done and this is one of it as Op has made it seem based on his perspective about gambling addiction. Everyone is talking about addiction whether hard drug or gambling addiction but not everyone has experience any of these addictions, therefore the manner and tone at which someone who have never been an addict will talk about it will be so different from how a former addiction or someone who had had an addict under his care would also talk about addiction.

Op is talking based on a surface level of thought and which at a surface it is a decision that had to be made at once and stick to it stopping it immediately but deep on the inside the battle it surpasses that school of thought from the Op perspective. Have op wondered why some gambling addicts will say today that aren't gambling anymore and after a week or two you see them back again. The addict's alone can't do it successfully they need relatives and friends support in encouraging them that it can be eliminated gradually.



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