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December 28, 2023, 03:49:21 AM
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In the end when i look at the thread you made just about your selfcontrol to do gambling.

I think everyone is aware of this because after all, with the situation that occurs in gambling, of course we all understand what we have to do when we want to try to stop, namely by means of good self-control but the problem is that talking about selfcontrol is very easy its just that how it works is still very difficult to do.

Selfcontrol is very important but there are still a lot of people who cant do it even though they already know what they have to do because in the end things like this can't just be about words but must come from perseverance and I still believe that this can only be done gradually.
Self-control isn't impossible if we are doing it at the start but we let the addiction happen to us making this thing hardly stop. That is why it was not unusual for many gamblers to keep on betting despite their losses because they are now on the chase as they think that they couldn't recover back their money if they stopped and so the betting continued.

As we are in gambling or even in another field, we must know how to control ourselves. We know how to enter, then we also know how to exit otherwise we are making ourselves a prison of our doings.


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December 28, 2023, 04:32:02 AM
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There are still people who can get rid of gambling addiction even though it is difficult to stop. It's really dangerous when you're addicted to gambling because your life will surely be ruined, you'll be in debt just by gambling, so let's avoid getting totally addicted to gambling because when you're addicted, you'll be in trouble.
Not only being in debt but also committing criminal acts such as stealing and others, the dangers of gambling addiction can really make someone do things they don't normally do, that's why gamblers must be more responsible when gambling so they don't feel addicted because gambling addiction is difficult to cure and It's true that not many people have successfully recovered from gambling addiction.

As much as possible, prevention is better than becoming addicted to gambling, control yourself when gambling and don't be greedy to get more wins, enjoy the game as we enjoy entertainment in other entertainment venues so don't be too obsessed with the demands of winning big when gambling, understand that we will never always win against the dealer, in fact we may only win occasionally and lose many times.

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December 28, 2023, 08:44:40 AM
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How about if you are winning and you can't stop? can it still be considered as gambling addict?

I know the question sounds weird because most addicts are losers, but what if we are on the other side, that we are addicted to gambling because it is consistently helping us earning money, it's literrally easy money as they say gambling is easy money, if you are winning.

If you continue to win and you do not stop gambling, what would happen at last is that the person will lose. After winning, it is better to stop gambling at the time and wait till another time like the next day.

Let me answer your question. If you continue to gamble and gambling is taking more of your time that you supposed to use for other things, if you are not losing, you are still addicted to gambling. But most probably the person will be losing more than winning.

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December 28, 2023, 09:34:08 AM
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There are still people who can get rid of gambling addiction even though it is difficult to stop. It's really dangerous when you're addicted to gambling because your life will surely be ruined, you'll be in debt just by gambling, so let's avoid getting totally addicted to gambling because when you're addicted, you'll be in trouble.
Not only being in debt but also committing criminal acts such as stealing and others, the dangers of gambling addiction can really make someone do things they don't normally do, that's why gamblers must be more responsible when gambling so they don't feel addicted because gambling addiction is difficult to cure and It's true that not many people have successfully recovered from gambling addiction.

As much as possible, prevention is better than becoming addicted to gambling, control yourself when gambling and don't be greedy to get more wins, enjoy the game as we enjoy entertainment in other entertainment venues so don't be too obsessed with the demands of winning big when gambling, understand that we will never always win against the dealer, in fact we may only win occasionally and lose many times.

Those people, Sanugarid, who can get out of gambling addiction on their own can be one in a million addicted people The percentage is low. Is it possible for a mentally disordered person to heal himself? At some point, the person understands he's actually in trouble, but doesn't understand what's wrong with them. It's quite tiring as a gambler to become glued to gambling to the extent of getting addicted. One experience should be able to stop the gambler from continuing with his consistent unproductive gambling. I've seen some gamblers who appeared like addicted gamblers but weren't because they stopped gambling after a few massive losses, which rearranged their thoughts on gambling. Now they're focused on some other earning methods. Addiction is not simple to control, as the odds are mainly against the addicted person. Like the Op's response, it's the typical example of what other people would say to the gambler. Instead of advising him on what to do. Our main motive for gambling is to have fun or enjoy games with a little funds to make it look real.

Those who play video games, sometimes seem to be addicted to it, but their condition doesn't seem to be like the gambling addict. So, in the process of staking money, the gambler may lose his control and make mistakes that can affect his future life experience. Hence it's not in their control to stop gambling. Because they've lost control and can't do anything to help themselves. Despite losing the money, they can't feel the pain others would feel after losing money. They only focus on ways to generate extra money, to finance their gambling urge. Taking loans and suffering their parents with enormous expenses to spend on him, and they, his parents, may not be aware of the reason why the son is asking for too much. Those who fund the gambler unknowingly when they find out about their ward's situation. They're also in the right position to help him, by taking him to a therapist. The addicted person is mainly vulnerable and can't help himself in the hospital. 

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December 28, 2023, 12:13:56 PM
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In the end when i look at the thread you made just about your selfcontrol to do gambling.

I think everyone is aware of this because after all, with the situation that occurs in gambling, of course we all understand what we have to do when we want to try to stop, namely by means of good self-control but the problem is that talking about selfcontrol is very easy its just that how it works is still very difficult to do.

Selfcontrol is very important but there are still a lot of people who cant do it even though they already know what they have to do because in the end things like this can't just be about words but must come from perseverance and I still believe that this can only be done gradually.
Self-control isn't impossible if we are doing it at the start but we let the addiction happen to us making this thing hardly stop. That is why it was not unusual for many gamblers to keep on betting despite their losses because they are now on the chase as they think that they couldn't recover back their money if they stopped and so the betting continued.

As we are in gambling or even in another field, we must know how to control ourselves. We know how to enter, then we also know how to exit otherwise we are making ourselves a prison of our doings.




Self control will definitely be easier for some over others
But you are right, its a skill that can be trained and mastered
Revenge gambling, trying to make the money back the same way as you lost it, will take you anywhere, its not a good idea
Being aware of your emotions and actions is a must

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December 28, 2023, 12:37:49 PM
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Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself.

To be honest, it is easier said than done regardless of the result- I call this the "cycle of gambling."

According to this cycle, a person will continue to gamble whether he/she wins or not. If a person losses, the initial reaction for them is to recover their said loss by gambling again; and if the person wins, the initial reaction is for them to try and continue their win streak.

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Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

Like what I have mentioned above, gambling is a tempting act whereby a person can potentially landslide regardless of the circumstances of their bets. This is the reason on why I heavily recommend that a person should only allocate a specific amount of money in order to force themselves to stop betting.
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December 28, 2023, 01:00:05 PM
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Self control will definitely be easier for some over others
But you are right, its a skill that can be trained and mastered
Revenge gambling, trying to make the money back the same way as you lost it, will take you anywhere, its not a good idea
Being aware of your emotions and actions is a must

Those who believe that the winning streak may not be achieved will decide to stop gambling in that session as soon as he is win. Meanwhile, for those who start to feel like they want to get more money to cover their losses when they win, it will be easier to lose control and even lose their winning amount. I am not a person who can control very well, but what I have experienced, I often remember the many losses I have experienced and want to win more. Over time, I have started to believe that no matter how much money is deposited, if the time wins, then we will win. Stop before the winnings run out, and vice versa, if the time is lost, no matter how much money deposited it will end in a loss.

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December 28, 2023, 01:07:56 PM
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Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?
How can you not be an addict, when you can't control yourself to stop gambling, that's basically gambling addiction 101, I mean any person that finds it hard to control their urge while gambling or even when they are not gambling, it simply means that person is addicted as f*ck because any reasonable will know when to quite or relent with their gambling urge. Gambling is more like a force that get to the mind and once it gets to you it's like a leech that's very stubborn to remove.

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December 28, 2023, 01:14:45 PM
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Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

Gambling is full of fun and this is undeniable, there's a way we can make a determination of not gambling again andyet we still finds it more interesting to continue with gambling, we are not able to overcome the urge we have towards gambling regardless of the consequences we are seing, some will not mind continuing with gambling even when they have lost countless times, maybe when we lack money on our bankroll, that may reduce the way we also gambles.

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December 28, 2023, 01:26:09 PM
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And now that gambling sites are very easy to access by anyone, then there needs to be education and guidance for who wants to get into gambling,
not to end up becoming an addict.
true and that is another reason why it is very difficult for gamblers to stop betting because they cannot leave their cell phones and the internet, as long as they still use them they can still access gambling sites whenever they want, agree with you the need for education about gambling is very important for beginners to be able to play gambling wisely and responsibly so as not to become addicted to gambling, it should be the job of gambling sites to warn beginners about that too.
Now almost everyone is getting involved in gambling. I don't think there will be any problem for those who can choose gambling as entertainment. If someone becomes fully addicted to gambling he will face many problems. We should always be careful to gamble for too long.  Cannot be spent on gambling. If a person gets addicted to gambling, he cannot get out of gambling. Gambling is a very serious addiction, the addict will lose happiness and peace in his life.

There are still people who can get rid of gambling addiction even though it is difficult to stop. It's really dangerous when you're addicted to gambling because your life will surely be ruined, you'll be in debt just by gambling, so let's avoid getting totally addicted to gambling because when you're addicted, you'll be in trouble.
That is very difficult, for some players they need support from all sides to be able to get out of that problem, I know relatives of some players who fell into addiction and that is something strong, something that cannot be controlled, when a person falls In addiction you have to be very patient and understand them, I don't blame them because I believe that we are all exposed to falling into an addiction, whether in that or in anything, there are alcohol addicts and there are drug addicts, all of these addictions are due to them. Pay the necessary attention so that this does not progress, because it can become a disease that is almost worse than a terminal illness.

In this case you should control yourself and not be so reckless when you are in a casino and learn everything you can, 'so that you avoid falling into addictions, in the casino it is something that happens because of the money when it runs out, that is We just have to take care of ourselves.
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December 28, 2023, 01:27:15 PM
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It is not easy to control yourself, let alone stop gambling when you experience a losing streak, this must be done consistently, even people who are used to gambling are still carried away by emotions so they continue to gamble and chase losses, that is why it is important to control yourself from the start so that when you start gambling you are used to it. Stop the game when you experience a losing streak or it's time for you to stop gambling.

The easiest thing to set off as an alarm is to limit your gambling time and budget so that when your budget runs out and your gambling time is up you can stop gambling, that's why people who consistently control themselves know when they should gamble and when they should stop gambling. It is important to understand and know your own abilities before trying gambling.
Only by continuing to practice self-control will we be able to prevent ourselves from losing streaks. And even though we have experienced a losing streak, we will not be tempted to continue gambling because we know the consequences and that it will only result in greater losses. However, we need to be responsible with ourselves when gambling so that we don't have to lose a lot of money. And when we can control ourselves, we will not get carried away by emotions and can control ourselves so we don't gamble excessively.

Limiting time and budget is one way to control ourselves because with these two things, we can gamble moderately. There is no desire to chase big wins or recover from the defeats we have experienced. We will realize that gambling games will give us wins and losses, so if we have lost in a row, we must immediately stop the gambling game. Otherwise, we will lose even more money that we may not be able to afford.

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That's correct and I won't be a hypocrite to admit that.
Whenever I am on a losing streak it makes my teeth grit to try and win it back and I do believe it ain't just me who have the same emotion when that happens.
Many would say that's the wrong thing to do but when we are in that same position we cannot stop ourselves from betting 10 more times or maybe 100 more because we want to take back what we believe is ours.
I have been gambling for a long time and I know that the end of it is bad. But when emotions are pouring it's difficult to stop and might as well lose everything than just lose a part of my wallet either half of it or just a minimum amount of the total balance. I'd rather risk everything slowly and try to win back whatever was gone through a safety method although I don't think one really exists. What I mean is just lessening the wagered amount and trying to recover it through that means. It worked out for me sometimes but I won't say it does save me every time.
I know some would double the bet to hasten the recovery but it's the other way around for me.
I also felt it when I had that losing streak, and many gamblers also feel the same way as we do. What is different is that there are people who can stop their gambling game immediately because they know that if they continue their gambling game, they could have the opportunity to experience even more losses. And it won't be worth their money as it will make them spend even more money to recover their losses. And yes, you are right in saying that when emotions run high, we will find it difficult to control ourselves because many of us have experienced this too. But we have a way to restrain ourselves, namely by training ourselves to control ourselves while gambling to stop immediately when we experience a losing streak. By practicing self-control, we can save the contents of our wallets and ourselves from increasing our emotions even higher because losing will increase our emotions until we become frustrated.

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December 28, 2023, 01:28:35 PM
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I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?
It is very common if a gambler doesn't want to bet that is entirely their wish. But bettors are human beings who have feelings and emotions that cannot be ignored. Because those who bet have greed to win. It may be more or less. But if one bets on his own eagerness and if he claims that he is not greedy then he is not normal. I have personally seen in my own area where 95% of gamblers who cannot control themselves and they themselves are to blame for this. A gambler manage his gambling activities as he conducts himself. Unless a gambler manages gambling through self-control, he cannot manage gambling normally.

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December 28, 2023, 01:50:17 PM
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There are still people who can get rid of gambling addiction even though it is difficult to stop. It's really dangerous when you're addicted to gambling because your life will surely be ruined, you'll be in debt just by gambling, so let's avoid getting totally addicted to gambling because when you're addicted, you'll be in trouble.
Not only being in debt but also committing criminal acts such as stealing and others, the dangers of gambling addiction can really make someone do things they don't normally do, that's why gamblers must be more responsible when gambling so they don't feel addicted because gambling addiction is difficult to cure and It's true that not many people have successfully recovered from gambling addiction.

As much as possible, prevention is better than becoming addicted to gambling, control yourself when gambling and don't be greedy to get more wins, enjoy the game as we enjoy entertainment in other entertainment venues so don't be too obsessed with the demands of winning big when gambling, understand that we will never always win against the dealer, in fact we may only win occasionally and lose many times.
This is a phenomenon that we usually see in news papers or in the media that we often know about and indeed the crime rate is difficult to control. However, gambling addiction is not good, especially for yourself, and can even destroy your life in an instant. The importance of managing all the bad possibilities that should be stopped and also again, they must be able to stop gambling at the right time.

Prevention is good but sometimes it doesn't last long and each person has their own assessment of the addiction cases they experience. I think the importance of the people closest to them being able to warn them against gambling addiction is an important factor besides the advice you gave above. It's not easy to remind gambling addicts, but it's better than leaving them alone to face the problem.

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December 28, 2023, 02:20:41 PM
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But like I would always say for you to break away from gambling addiction as a gambler, you'll have to first of all accept your fate that you are an addicted gambler that needs help and wants to quit his addiction as that will help you in decision making as well as in minimizing your gambling engagement.
Quitting is not an easy thing and that is realized by everyone who has felt and gone through these times, friends.
Before taking steps to realize that he is a gambling player who is already at the level of addiction, he may not think about the causes and effects of what he will get when he decides to gamble.

This step must be paid attention to and remembered, that's why I say everything is controlled by the mind. Want to break this habit, then send it to my mind that I can stop this habit so that my body parts work according to the orders given by the brain. Basically, this can be recovered even though it has to go through a process that is not as easy as imagined.

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December 28, 2023, 02:28:19 PM
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Prevention is good but sometimes it doesn't last long and each person has their own assessment of the addiction cases they experience. I think the importance of the people closest to them being able to warn them against gambling addiction is an important factor besides the advice you gave above. It's not easy to remind gambling addicts, but it's better than leaving them alone to face the problem.
If they gambling in physical casino, it gives a chance for their friends to know if they're gamblers. What if people who gamble in online casino? if they didn't show if they're gamblers, no one will know and giving them advice to handle their addictions.

That's why the only one who can stop/control yourself is you, don't put a hope someone will correct your mistake.



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December 28, 2023, 02:58:16 PM
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If they gambling in physical casino, it gives a chance for their friends to know if they're gamblers. What if people who gamble in online casino? if they didn't show if they're gamblers, no one will know and giving them advice to handle their addictions.
Every gambler cannot hide gambling from anyone, they will not be able to hide durian from smell and the fact is that gambling activities are known to everyone. However, I would like some tips to find out the character of gambling addicts so that you can give advice to them to stop gambling addiction

- always financial problems, every gambler will experience financial problems because they lose control in managing funds, need money just to gamble, owe too much and even steal.
- changes in behavior, gamblers tend to be emotional about things they shouldn't be, excessively anxious and more closed. The point is, his character is not like you knew before.
- relationships with family or relatives, because of the impact of the two bad attitudes above, many gambling addicts no longer have good relations with their parents and family because they have threatened their parents to give them the amount of money they asked for, some cases gamblers even pawned their parents' asset certificates just to get money to gamble.

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December 28, 2023, 05:10:04 PM
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Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

Well, what do you think is self-control? why can't they control themselves, even they are not addicted gamblers. at this point, it would be difficult to understand based on your analogy. however, I can understand what you mean. also, the point for "even when he or she does not have money to bet" at this point it is clear that someone can be said to be addicted, although we cannot be sure of the level. in fact, we've discussed things like this in many threads. well, why would someone have difficulty controlling themselves. the answer depends on how the person is, even for you, me, us, it's different. everyone is not the same at their respective levels. in fact, we may also have different perspectives on gambling viewpoints. for what, and why do you gamble. each person's answer and reaction will be different, especially those who are truly addicted

One of the causal factors is dopamine and endropine, at this point, we have discussed this in many threads in the community. honestly, I don't know for sure how it happens to every gambler. I mean for the point of self-control, as we you mean. we also cannot measure everyone who likes to gamble, especially if we are not experts in this field of analysis. Well, for me personally the principle is simple, how do we take responsibility for ourselves and the gambling we do. Understanding is important, there are many articulations that people can apply as prevention ideas in the context of self-control. although in reality, in practice it is not as easy as we say.

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December 28, 2023, 05:13:41 PM
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there is a main reason why it is very difficult to stop gambling, curiosity and secondly wanting to have a lot of money instantly, very rarely do people play just for fun but looking to win

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December 28, 2023, 05:26:59 PM
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there is a main reason why it is very difficult to stop gambling, curiosity and secondly wanting to have a lot of money instantly, very rarely do people play just for fun but looking to win
You forget about chasing losses, and this is one of the reason why many are still coming back and still gamble.
Many gamblers are being too emotional and they don't know how to control themselves which is very normal for a addicted gambler.
If you want a happy life then know when to stop and know when to gamble, you have to set limit or better to stop gambling at all.
If you are still coming back and you think it's already an issue for you, then start seeking for a professional help.

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December 28, 2023, 06:04:15 PM
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Quit gambling for what reason, if the process is turning to an addiction then that's when the person can quit but it's not so easy as we think, i dont like blaming gamblers who are addicted, firstly everyone have an addiction they're fighting with so if someone else addiction has to do with gambling there's  no big deal but the problem now it can lead to debt, selling of property, causing suicide or discrimination, the best thing is to change and such people needs help from others like friends or colleague they can't just change on their own without going back, firstly if a person decides to change the mindset should be the first target cause building the mindset matters a lot, going back to that act still shows the person is not ready to change maybe they find pleasure in doing it.

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