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August 01, 2024, 08:59:59 PM
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Theirs something we have to comprehend very well in gambling, it doesn't basically mean that gambling is basically made for fun, it's based on what you have in mind to gamble, so if you want to gamble have one particular intension of gambling, because people may think that everyone have the same motive of participating in gambling, so I know very well that people who gamble because of fun are rich people.

Theirs no average person or poor person who can boldly said that the reason while it indulge in gambling with large or huge amount is because of fun, so anyone comes out on air and say that boldly in congregation is telling you false information, even rich people who earn high amount as a salary scale is still interested to make money through gambling.

Wow, you have already speck nothing but the truth, but I don’t still don’t know why some will still keep denying that some people gamble just to have fun, and they are not that wealthy, which I will never agree with. I enjoy seeing someone who likes to tell the truth; there is one fact about money that people fail to understand.
 
That fact is that anyone will continue to have that happiness in mind to gain more money as long as they are not wealthy enough to have the fear of gambling, and even the wealthy people that do gambling are always more focused on physical games in order for them to make jokes of each other and be happy, but as a poor man that just needs profit, you will either join online casinos or physical casinos just to play, so it is different. 


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August 01, 2024, 09:06:19 PM
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This is the primary reason on why gambling industry is really that profitable due into this kind of behavior of most gamblers on which they are really that not minding about their finances on the time
that they are on their gambling sessions. As long they do have the money that they could really be able to play on with, then they would really be that  definitely be playing no matter what.
People do only make out those realizations on the time or moment that they will really be seeing themselves getting wrecked up that hard.

Only an addicted person will gamble in such manner and care about the money. Even the professional gamblers that I know gamble with caution, they are always careful of how they gamble and amount they and make sure they make back the money invested into gambling, not really they must make back the money but the intention is to make sure the money is made before end of the week for people that do check and balance in weekend and before end of the month.

Anyone who gamble and doesn't put money into consideration is either doing money laundering or has explanation where their money is coming from and I will not take that action is a fun thing to do, accountability is needed in everything we do even though their passion in it.

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August 01, 2024, 10:37:11 PM
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Over the time, I’ve seen several post, by users here who, claim that gambling is strictly for fun, even when one is making losses and I’ve paused to ask this question “Is there actually any fun in gambling especially when the losses are more than the winnings?”
Let’s be frank, there are several other things one can do for fun aside gambling and I understand that life it’s own is a risk but seeing claims that people see gambling as fun even when making losses is weird and I think it’s worth discussion as to know if truly people gamble strictly for fun without minding if they’re losing or winning
Honestly, when gambling and when I lose I never feel happy even though I gamble with the aim of just having fun, and for me it's normal when I lose to feel disappointed. I don't think there is a gambler who feels happy when he loses even if he is rich when he loses he must feel sad, because basically what makes us happy in gambling is when we win in betting especially when we get a jackpot.

Because for me the meaning of gambling for fun is not not thinking about winning, of course the purpose of gambling is to find victory and when we lose it will not affect our mentality. we gamble with proper management and do not pursue defeat blindly so that we become responsible gamblers. So for me if anyone asks is there any pleasure when experiencing defeat when gambling? The answer is no, no pleasure does not mean you are not gambling for fun. Losing in gambling is natural, but when we win our pleasure will also increase.

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August 01, 2024, 11:46:16 PM
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There is no fun in losing at all and it’s not just in gambling but in everything man does but this perception will vary between people because there are those who are not fixated on their wins. Some see gambling as a profit making game while some see it as a game for fun but even at that when you lose there more often there will be no fun at all.

When I gamble I always assume my money is gone already even though I expect a win from my prediction and i don’t feel bad about losing because I expect a loss just as much as i expect a win so in that context i will say I gamble for fun but if i really want to have fun while spending money they are other things i will rather opt for than to gamble. Losing money in gambling is not fun but it still depends on how the person takes it.
Exactly, I don't also see any fun when I am losing the bet. I will never be happy and small thing can make me hangry but if I am winning I can even give or dash out money to people because of the happiness for winning. There will no joy if I am losing.
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August 02, 2024, 04:54:47 AM
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There is no fun in losing, but losing can be taken lightly if certain conditions are met:
- the money the gambler is currently gambling with should not be his last.
- He should be in good relations with his family, who will calm him down.
- He should have a favorite thing where he is successful, and then gambling will not spoil his mood. After all, a favorite thing is more important than any gambling.

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August 02, 2024, 06:15:26 AM
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OOO!  Yeah!  Of course, a player sometimes learns rather harsh and cruel lessons from failure.  But perhaps the most important thing is that these lessons really teach not to repeat the mistakes made in the past.  Unfortunately, there are quite a lot of people who need to make quite a lot of the same type of mistakes and they do not understand these lessons in any way and do not draw the appropriate conclusions, continuing a series of the same type of mistakes.  In my opinion, these are just such clients; this is simply an ideal find for the casino to get rich and prosper. 
This can be said for casinos simply as a “golden fund” for gamblers.

That's right, or personally I always insisted on many strategies, sometimes they worked for me, other times they didn't, but in the end I realized that the mistake was not in using the strategies, the mistake was always in the amount of money I bet, because I always tried to bet more and more money, obviously the balance to play went down very Quickly and I didn't even enjoy it a little, so I think the biggest mistake of all is the management of our money, we can't bet much, I'm one of those who bet little money, and if I risk doing a martingale it is based on a Balance much smaller than the Total I have in my balance.

Yeah!  Money management is something that I think newbies to gambling don’t think about at all when they enthusiastically dive into the world of gambling for the first time. 
And this is of course a big mistake for a novice player. 
Unfortunately for many, the realization that managing expenses while gambling is probably even more important than strictly adhering to the chosen strategy.  But as they gain experience, of course, many players become more savvy in matters of cost management, and from the side of those who can watch them play, it seems that the player becomes much more careful than he was previously when he first started playing.
 By the way, this is also some guarantee against falling into the terrible pit of gambling addiction at the stage of the disease.

That is the biggest mistake a newbie can make while he starts gambling but no joke now , I think we all forget sometimes to make money management right ? That usually turns against us and we tend to lose money because of this factor.

True , at some point if you gamble a lot without having some money management you will slowly but surely become addicted and from there is just a step until you will start gamble the money you don't have and start to take loans to gamble and so on. That's why it's better to just say stop when you don't have a great gambling run and forget about it for a couple of days.
Sometimes even forgetting for a couple of days is not enough.  But I would say that this is quite difficult to do because these very first days of taking a break from gambling are the most difficult for a player who is already on the path to gambling addiction.  There is a clear analogy here with how a heavy smoker quits smoking.  The first few days are the hardest for a smoker to survive without cigarettes.  It’s just that checkpoint and in the case of a gambling player, the psyche is constantly reminded of how great it would be to play now.  But of course, this state gradually passes into a calmer stage and the player calms down a little.

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August 02, 2024, 06:36:04 AM
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It is not that a fun if you are losing and not winning. But if I win and lose, it is fun for me and that is what that is happening and I do not consider  if I win more or lose more. That is me.

What about you? You need to ask yourself this question. What makes you to be gambling? The reason for most people is to earn money. If such people are losing they will not find gambling as fun while losing.

Yea, I agree with you 100%,  gambling is meant to be a fun thing to do, but most folks have taken it as a means of making money which has removed the fun out of it in their own perspective, especially when they at the losing end, because am quite sure that it's never a fun thing by losing money, when you are actually hustling for money.

Secondly, another aspect of gambling that remove the fun out of it completely and makes it a do or die affair while gambling is when a gambler gambles more than what he can't afford to lose, and since it's an amount he can't afford to lose, he is only expected to be at the winning end of it, anything other than that is a total disaster too him or her, so in essence is that, gambling for fun can never be possible when an individual gambles what he can't afford to lose.

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August 02, 2024, 07:05:05 AM
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Exactly, I don't also see any fun when I am losing the bet. I will never be happy and small thing can make me hangry but if I am winning I can even give or dash out money to people because of the happiness for winning. There will no joy if I am losing.
You should know that playing gambling can gives an experience of losing so if you don't like to see the losses, it is better you don't playing gambling to keeps your money. That is what we must do if we can not accept our losses in gambling so we don't have to spends the money to playing gambling.We can do other things that doesn't need money so we can saves that money for other daily needs. That will be better for us because we can also avoids the big problem that can occurs in gambling.

Playing gambling or not is a choice so we should understand the risks of losing the money. If we can understand that, we will not playing gambling because gambling can makes us lose the money.

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August 02, 2024, 10:26:33 AM
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There is no fun in losing at all and it’s not just in gambling but in everything man does but this perception will vary between people because there are those who are not fixated on their wins. Some see gambling as a profit making game while some see it as a game for fun but even at that when you lose there more often there will be no fun at all.

When I gamble I always assume my money is gone already even though I expect a win from my prediction and i don’t feel bad about losing because I expect a loss just as much as i expect a win so in that context i will say I gamble for fun but if i really want to have fun while spending money they are other things i will rather opt for than to gamble. Losing money in gambling is not fun but it still depends on how the person takes it.
Exactly, I don't also see any fun when I am losing the bet. I will never be happy and small thing can make me hangry but if I am winning I can even give or dash out money to people because of the happiness for winning. There will no joy if I am losing.
As much fun as I find in gambling, I will never be happy if I lose. Even a rich gambler cannot rejoice when he loses. If someone makes such a comment then he is not telling the truth. It may be that when a gambler loses he may not regret the loss. But defeat will surely hurt him. A gambler may be financially rich but his money is not come in the wind which is why he must be greedy for money he will not agree to give money to anyone for free. Moreover, he agreed to gambling because he needed money. So we can say that a gambler will never be happy if he loses in gambling.

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August 02, 2024, 12:27:20 PM
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There is no fun in losing, but losing can be taken lightly if certain conditions are met:
- the money the gambler is currently gambling with should not be his last.
- He should be in good relations with his family, who will calm him down.
- He should have a favorite thing where he is successful, and then gambling will not spoil his mood. After all, a favorite thing is more important than any gambling.
In the last part, you mean a different hobby, and I will strongly agree with that.
We need to have something that will take our mind off gambling whenever we lose, that way we can control the urge to deposit more and chase our losses.

About having good relations with the family about gambling, I think that is a difficult task. Many of us are shy to say that we gambling because we don't want to become the discussion whenever there is a reunion or we just don't want to be blamed whenever a financial crisis in our family happens.
We are gamblers and fingers will always be pointed at us first when there's a budget problem. I don't think we want to be in that position. It's better to just keep it but we are still in control.

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Unfortunately, I know I can't win all the time. Statistically, I'm very likely to lose. That's why I see gambling as a form of entertainment, but I don't mean to say that I like to lose. I gamble with the price of a cup of coffee, so I don't get upset when I fail. I usually bet on football matches. When I bet, I enjoy the matches more than when I watch them. Betting is just a form of entertainment for me. I also want to win. I make all my predictions and bets to win. But my priority is always to have fun. Because I know I can't win forever.

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Yeah!  Money management is something that I think newbies to gambling don’t think about at all when they enthusiastically dive into the world of gambling for the first time. 
And this is of course a big mistake for a novice player. 
Unfortunately for many, the realization that managing expenses while gambling is probably even more important than strictly adhering to the chosen strategy.  But as they gain experience, of course, many players become more savvy in matters of cost management, and from the side of those who can watch them play, it seems that the player becomes much more careful than he was previously when he first started playing.
 By the way, this is also some guarantee against falling into the terrible pit of gambling addiction at the stage of the disease.

Yes, I think that one of the things that you should learn to handle is money management, and even more so when you are a novice and you have money, now if there is hope and you are encouraged to get ahead with the game, well, that is something that Should not be allowed because I think that the main thing is to keep your feet on the ground, to know what you are getting into and how you can fight against that type of temptation, for me the main thing about the game is to be able to control money, because without money absolutely nothing is possible, some find fun when they lose , the truth is I don't know where, I don't find even the slightest fun in that.

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August 02, 2024, 03:52:39 PM
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Theirs something we have to comprehend very well in gambling, it doesn't basically mean that gambling is basically made for fun, it's based on what you have in mind to gamble, so if you want to gamble have one particular intension of gambling, because people may think that everyone have the same motive of participating in gambling, so I know very well that people who gamble because of fun are rich people.

Theirs no average person or poor person who can boldly said that the reason while it indulge in gambling with large or huge amount is because of fun, so anyone comes out on air and say that boldly in congregation is telling you false information, even rich people who earn high amount as a salary scale is still interested to make money through gambling.

Wow, you have already speck nothing but the truth, but I don’t still don’t know why some will still keep denying that some people gamble just to have fun, and they are not that wealthy, which I will never agree with. I enjoy seeing someone who likes to tell the truth; there is one fact about money that people fail to understand.
 
That fact is that anyone will continue to have that happiness in mind to gain more money as long as they are not wealthy enough to have the fear of gambling, and even the wealthy people that do gambling are always more focused on physical games in order for them to make jokes of each other and be happy, but as a poor man that just needs profit, you will either join online casinos or physical casinos just to play, so it is different. 



No one wants to lose money when gambling or investing, no matter how big or small the amount is. Those who often say they gamble for fun, not because they really want to have fun, but because they want to reduce pressure on themselves. Because always putting profits first can sometimes cause us pressure and stress, and can make us make wrong decisions when playing.

In addition, there are also some people who gamble for entertainment because after winning some money they do not use it for daily needs. Some people use it to have fun with friends or spend it on anything that makes them happy because they believe that their winnings from gambling are just because they are lucky and that keeping it is not necessarily good for them.
My group of friends often do the same, we gamble together but at the end of the day the winner will have to spend all the money so the whole group can go drinking or sing  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

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August 02, 2024, 04:04:55 PM
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Theirs something we have to comprehend very well in gambling, it doesn't basically mean that gambling is basically made for fun, it's based on what you have in mind to gamble, so if you want to gamble have one particular intension of gambling, because people may think that everyone have the same motive of participating in gambling, so I know very well that people who gamble because of fun are rich people.

Theirs no average person or poor person who can boldly said that the reason while it indulge in gambling with large or huge amount is because of fun, so anyone comes out on air and say that boldly in congregation is telling you false information, even rich people who earn high amount as a salary scale is still interested to make money through gambling.

Wow, you have already speck nothing but the truth, but I don’t still don’t know why some will still keep denying that some people gamble just to have fun, and they are not that wealthy, which I will never agree with. I enjoy seeing someone who likes to tell the truth; there is one fact about money that people fail to understand.
 
That fact is that anyone will continue to have that happiness in mind to gain more money as long as they are not wealthy enough to have the fear of gambling, and even the wealthy people that do gambling are always more focused on physical games in order for them to make jokes of each other and be happy, but as a poor man that just needs profit, you will either join online casinos or physical casinos just to play, so it is different. 



No one wants to lose money when gambling or investing, no matter how big or small the amount is. Those who often say they gamble for fun, not because they really want to have fun, but because they want to reduce pressure on themselves. Because always putting profits first can sometimes cause us pressure and stress, and can make us make wrong decisions when playing.

In addition, there are also some people who gamble for entertainment because after winning some money they do not use it for daily needs. Some people use it to have fun with friends or spend it on anything that makes them happy because they believe that their winnings from gambling are just because they are lucky and that keeping it is not necessarily good for them.
My group of friends often do the same, we gamble together but at the end of the day the winner will have to spend all the money so the whole group can go drinking or sing  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

Yes, I will support your perception because there is a guy that I know who is always gambling, and when he wins, he does give the money to the people in need. Although he is wealthy and he always discourages the poor from gambling, he always says, “Wait and get lost if money before you can take a risk to lose them.”
 
So I will fully accept because you that will gamble in order to have a good time with your friends and also use the money to flex those that lost will be for fun, so there will be nothing in your mind to feel like you must win or to go after your lost. You will just play your best and see who will take the responsibility of your drinks and others, so that will be for fun, not for profit. 

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August 02, 2024, 06:22:44 PM
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No one wants to lose money when gambling or investing, no matter how big or small the amount is. Those who often say they gamble for fun, not because they really want to have fun, but because they want to reduce pressure on themselves. Because always putting profits first can sometimes cause us pressure and stress, and can make us make wrong decisions when playing.

In addition, there are also some people who gamble for entertainment because after winning some money they do not use it for daily needs. Some people use it to have fun with friends or spend it on anything that makes them happy because they believe that their winnings from gambling are just because they are lucky and that keeping it is not necessarily good for them.
My group of friends often do the same, we gamble together but at the end of the day the winner will have to spend all the money so the whole group can go drinking or sing  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.
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Losing money makes no one happy. There is actual pressure to win whether your activity is stock market investment or gambling. Many people so claim they bet "just for fun." Still, it goes beyond simply the excitement of the game. Its about the everyday grind's escape it presents. One real kind of stress relief is the sense of relief you experience when you're totally absorbed in the game rather than your problems.

Using their wins to engage in enjoyable activities with friends fosters a unique form of connection. Its about the shared experience as much as the money. Its worth it because of your laughing, high-fives, memories you create together.

As long as this form of entertainment gambling is done sensibly, Im good for supporting it. Its about appreciating the moment and knowing your limitations rather than pursuing the large payback. The relationships you develop and the memories you produce have actual worth. One cannot buy with money something like that.

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Yeah!  Money management is something that I think newbies to gambling don’t think about at all when they enthusiastically dive into the world of gambling for the first time. 
And this is of course a big mistake for a novice player. 
Unfortunately for many, the realization that managing expenses while gambling is probably even more important than strictly adhering to the chosen strategy.  But as they gain experience, of course, many players become more savvy in matters of cost management, and from the side of those who can watch them play, it seems that the player becomes much more careful than he was previously when he first started playing.
 By the way, this is also some guarantee against falling into the terrible pit of gambling addiction at the stage of the disease.

Yes, I think that one of the things that you should learn to handle is money management, and even more so when you are a novice and you have money, now if there is hope and you are encouraged to get ahead with the game, well, that is something that Should not be allowed because I think that the main thing is to keep your feet on the ground, to know what you are getting into and how you can fight against that type of temptation, for me the main thing about the game is to be able to control money, because without money absolutely nothing is possible, some find fun when they lose , the truth is I don't know where, I don't find even the slightest fun in that.

Money management may be one of the keys to long-term safety, I am interested in what you said that we must first know what we are doing, or what we want to do, because by understanding all of that thoroughly such as knowing what and how gambling really is from the positive and negative sides then I think the idea of ​​practicing good and proper money management will be easy to do.

Or what I mean when you know that gambling is a risky activity then you will know what you should do and what you should avoid in every situation, I am sure that you will not be tempted by things that look tempting when you realize the risks. Another thing related to people who feel happy when they lose I think I also agree with you, or I mean I don't believe in it, because no one will ever feel happy about losing money, and maybe I would say that the better feeling to respond to any situation in gambling is when you win then it is fun, and when you lose then it is an unpleasant situation but also does not trigger emotions, you will feel that when you realize that losing is part of gambling.

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August 02, 2024, 07:08:05 PM
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There is no fun in losing at all and it’s not just in gambling but in everything man does but this perception will vary between people because there are those who are not fixated on their wins. Some see gambling as a profit making game while some see it as a game for fun but even at that when you lose there more often there will be no fun at all.

When I gamble I always assume my money is gone already even though I expect a win from my prediction and i don’t feel bad about losing because I expect a loss just as much as i expect a win so in that context i will say I gamble for fun but if i really want to have fun while spending money they are other things i will rather opt for than to gamble. Losing money in gambling is not fun but it still depends on how the person takes it.
Exactly, I don't also see any fun when I am losing the bet. I will never be happy and small thing can make me hangry but if I am winning I can even give or dash out money to people because of the happiness for winning. There will no joy if I am losing.
The reason why you are not happy when you lose you bet is because you are gambling to for profits. When you are gambling for entertainment you won't feel bad about the loss but as far as making profits is one of your priority in gamble you won't be happy when you are losing.

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August 02, 2024, 07:11:08 PM
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There is no fun in losing, but losing can be taken lightly if certain conditions are met:
- the money the gambler is currently gambling with should not be his last.
- He should be in good relations with his family, who will calm him down.
- He should have a favorite thing where he is successful, and then gambling will not spoil his mood. After all, a favorite thing is more important than any gambling.
I don't know if I have analyzed these before, because I know very well that people who participate in gambling has already know the implications so therefore I believe that gamblers also know their down falls, so people who gamble doesn't gamble to make money at any time they gamble. But I know that they know the disadvantages of gambling that's why the cherish everything they pass through, so I know that losing in gambling is part of gambling and you don't need to address some certain thing in that way by thinking that losing gambling is not part of fun in gambling, because theirs some people who knew that they will lose in gambling and they still a particular game they know that will lose.

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August 02, 2024, 08:35:21 PM
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Sometimes even forgetting for a couple of days is not enough.  But I would say that this is quite difficult to do because these very first days of taking a break from gambling are the most difficult for a player who is already on the path to gambling addiction.  There is a clear analogy here with how a heavy smoker quits smoking.  The first few days are the hardest for a smoker to survive without cigarettes.  It’s just that checkpoint and in the case of a gambling player, the psyche is constantly reminded of how great it would be to play now.  But of course, this state gradually passes into a calmer stage and the player calms down a little.

Yes, everything points to the things that are from detoxification, all detoxification is very hard, that is the worst stage of an addicted person, whether addicted to drugs, alcohol or Gambling , and that is something that causes them a lot of anxiety, but I think that here it is the Mental strength that is put into context, because basically Things are always like that when there is a process like this and when they manage to do it successfully, it could be said that the Person has to avoid gambling things in this case , that is why we see cases where people prefer to freeze or block their casino accounts forever.

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August 02, 2024, 08:52:08 PM
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The reason why you are not happy when you lose you bet is because you are gambling to for profits. When you are gambling for entertainment you won't feel bad about the loss but as far as making profits is one of your priority in gamble you won't be happy when you are losing.

You have a point, but still you can’t make decisions for people in this same space of gambling. There are gamblers that gamble for them to get the profit and feed themselves and their families due to current globalisation and inflation. Did you know that? If not, then I have information for you, so how did you expect such a person to gamble for entertainment? Are you going to be happy with hunger? When we are saying things, let be considerable because many things are happening in this world, so to me, I will say to anyone you see in a situation, just let him be because you might not know the cause of his problem, and even if you know, you might not have the solution. 


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