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December 27, 2023, 03:35:52 PM
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In my opinion, any educated gambler understands that the probability of losing is higher than winning, but that is not the point of gambling. Playing gambling gives you hope that you can win a large sum. This is about the same state of mind when you have enough free money to buy yourself a car, an apartment or something else you dreamed of. So you're lying there thinking about what to buy. Hope is what many people lack, and to find some hope in gambling is not as expensive as it may seem.

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December 27, 2023, 03:40:17 PM
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You are talking about this because you view gambling as a source of income, so you think everything must be taken into account, both losses and losses. For me, I play for fun and never count the losses and losses I experience, whether weekly or yearly. Why would doing that only make your mind is getting confused, besides, if you know that the casino is full of risks, it's best not to gamble, just keep quiet and watch

But if you try to think from the perspective of a gambler who likes to have fun gambling, of course you think losing is a normal thing, let's just say you went to watch with your lover, of course it was very fun, wasn't it and you spent how many dollars on it, would you count it as losses or other things, even though you are already having fun with it, then what's the difference when you are gambling and looking for fun, there is no difference. use this mindset so you don't think too much about losses, don't gamble just to win, just enjoy the game

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December 27, 2023, 04:02:09 PM
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Friends, gambling is about numbers and decisions. Indeed, the house always wins. Don't fool yourself—it's not about overcoming the odds every time. All about thrills and excitement. The thrill of gambling, not the wins or loses, is what's entertaining. Nature dictates that you lose more than you win. But is it false? Not really. The choice to spend money on entertainment is conscious. Gambling isn't the battlefield for human nature's desire to dominate. It's about letting go within bounds, not control. Gambling is about understanding when to stop, not just playing. Setting limits, playing smartly, and understanding dangers are key. The real enjoyment is there. It's about discipline and self-control, not just winning.

Fun is subjective. What's fun for one may not for another. Gambling with money you can lose is key. The game stays healthy and responsible. Yes, loss is likely, but isn't that true for most entertainment? You pay for experience, not results. Gambling is enjoyment with rules and hazards. Playing smart and safe keeps it fun.
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December 27, 2023, 04:17:32 PM
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Gambling is for entertainment only. This is an old saying but still effective to these days. The method and ways of gambling may have changed, but the main principle of gambling remains the same. Change your perspective and you will see the bigger picture.
Putting money in gambling is like paying for the entertainment and enjoying the gambling at the cost of that money. Every win is like something you get just for being a loyal customer and for being there. Think of gambling like this and everything will change.
It's not about gambling what you can afford to lose, it's about gamble only if you can afford to buy the entertainment.
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December 27, 2023, 04:31:22 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

It is a perspective and possible how someone who is not interested in gambling at all thinks about it.

But there are different perspectives, human nature doesn't love to be defeated so they try and try until they win, they just feel the adrenaline while making bet which is another one, and there are lot of other reasons for why people keep betting even when they know they are not having the advantage to win.

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December 27, 2023, 04:37:31 PM
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How a gambler gambles is another matter after gambling but every gambler starts gambling to make a profit by gambling. Maybe after losing money by gambling when a gambler realizes the true meaning of gambling then he can take gambling as a simple fun but in reality everyone gambles to make a profit. We are gambling with maximum risk of money in the hope of some profit. There are many gamblers who only lose money by gambling but still they don't stop gambling because they have hope that no matter how much money they lose, just one jackpot can change their life. They only think like this and bet money but at some point they never hit the jackpot and they end up losing money. Like I don't enjoy gambling now but in the beginning I didn't enjoy gambling at all.

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December 27, 2023, 04:59:51 PM
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For those who don't pursue anything and just want to enjoy their free time from gambling, they can call it a fun time. They will repeat it in their free time and whatever the result, they can accept it well.
But that will be different from people who deliberately want to win from gambling. If they lose, they won't call it fun but they will have to recover their losses another day.
They will find it difficult to accept loss and still want to try another time.
If that's you, you should not think about winning and losing and rather enjoy your free moments so you can enjoy the gambling games you want.

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December 27, 2023, 05:10:38 PM
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In my opinion, any educated gambler understands that the probability of losing is higher than winning, but that is not the point of gambling. Playing gambling gives you hope that you can win a large sum. This is about the same state of mind when you have enough free money to buy yourself a car, an apartment or something else you dreamed of. So you're lying there thinking about what to buy. Hope is what many people lack, and to find some hope in gambling is not as expensive as it may seem.

Well, educated or not I guess they all knew what the probability of winning in gambling, but people loves to lie to themselves hoping to turn everything around positively.
This could be totally fine for those people who have stable income and can afford to lose the amount of money they burned in gambling. But, pity to those who think they can actually get rich with consistent gambling.

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December 27, 2023, 05:14:29 PM
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majority if not all want to make money. i once gambled all because i was given the task to review a casino, was willing to lose $10 just to test the casino and it was fun at some point thinking i would get the amount back when paid.

but if i have to gamble from my pocket i would expect to win. sane as an investor who expects ROI. nobody wants to lose money that's why it's not enjoyable for a gambler to lose money.

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December 27, 2023, 05:30:27 PM
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
Of course that's just a way to lie to ourselves but in reality we want to have fun and profit in return. Yeah there could be some pleasure you may gain while gambling but in the end a losing bet is a losing bet and we tend to sometimes regret if we tend to recall it. Over time if you are an optimistic gambler past losses do not tend to matter, you're just focus to earn in the present.

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December 27, 2023, 05:43:41 PM
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Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.
You cannot speak for everyone because gambling is not the same for everyone and means different things to different individuals. There are people who are financially very stable, but will not enjoy any game they try to watch if they do not place a bet on it. For some, betting on a game adds extra suspense and thrill, trying to predict how a game will turn out. These people are not really focused on winning, but do not mind to win and will not also worry if they loose. That is just the fun for them.

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December 27, 2023, 05:45:43 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
The truth is that if you are gambling to make money for a living you can never see gambling to be fun because it will always make you sad when you lose. Gambling can be seen as fun when you are not expecting much from gambling and not being desperate to make money from gambling.  Gambling is fun to some people while it can be also seen as pain for some people,  this is because all gamblers have targets and know the reason why they play gamble.

The only way you can see gambling to be fun if only you with an amount you can afford to lose and you are not playing gambling to make money to solve problems. I play gamble for fun because am not a desperate gambler and I play with small amount once in a while.

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December 27, 2023, 05:46:18 PM
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I'm being tempted to agree with you that gambling for fun is a lie we tell ourselves to make us feel better in the midst of losses. I don't really condemn the proponents of such since its a strategy for reducing the pain of losing.  But the reality is that no one gamble for fun. The primary reason for gambling is money and more money. Remove the money from gambling and see how many of those championing gambling for fun will still be there.

I may agree with you to some degree that people gamble for not fun, but they are just that they are using that to covered up to get better in gambling,but in another way, there are some people who still gamble for fun. I will say that this set of people always gamble with very small amounts, even less than what they can afford to lose.

I have seen this set of people before, and their gambling side of predictions is always very funny. Like yesterday matches between Manchester United and Aston Villa, I saw someone just predict before the game to start that Aston Villa should win half of the game and Manchester United should be the winner of the game, but they bet it with a very small amount of money,and when someone says this option is just betting will definitely know it for fun.

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December 27, 2023, 05:54:34 PM
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
Depends on what kind of fun you want. Losing and winning are part of gambling and the best gambler is when you are a responsible gambler. It doesn't matter if you lose or win as long as you are responsible, but for fun you may need to enjoy the game neither defeat nor victory. When you feel happy about winning and you are angry about losing, then you may never feel how fun a game is. Enjoy the game regardless of the results you get, it's the fun.

 
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Decision to either gamble for fun or not is an individual thing, no gambler is ever forced to gamble for fun, so there is no way we can be telling ourselves lies except for those gamblers who decide to tell themselves lies.

But generally, a gambler either decide to gamble for fun or for the money, it's completely up to him or her, like myself, when ever I have some money to spare, that is, money I know I just wanna trow away to gambling, I just have fun playing my favorite game, I have many of them in slot and casino games.
But when I am eager to win some money, I go for sports betting instead.

 
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OP, when you are playing a game, what will you say that you are doing. It is because of the fun in the game that makes you want to play such game over and over again. Mind you if you are used to playing a particular game before you know it your skill will improve in the game and you can boldly tell your opponent that you will win him, you can even go as far as to challenge him with some amount of money to show him that you are better than him. If you are not enjoying the game, you wouldn't go as far as betting to show how good you are in the game. The fact is that nobody is betting because he wants to lose, but if it happens that you lost, you will let go of your losses and move on, because you enjoyed the game despite that you didn't win. If you want to go and have fun, you pay for your choice of game that you want to play. Will you now say that because you lost, you wouldn't pay for the game and you didn't enjoy yourself.

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December 27, 2023, 06:01:10 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
It shouldn't become as surprise that we lose from time to time. If you are not having fun with gambling. Step out of it and ponder your reasons why you gamble. Because if you are gambling purely for steady profit, you might want to consider other means for it. Part of the fun is not knowing if you win or lose. And that winning big happens so rarely.

Even if my losses would be greater then winnings, that's not only reason i am gambling. It's a past time like any other. Most of the fun you do with your life is not profitable. In fact most of it costs a lot. At least with gambling you have a change to make that money back, and a small change to win big. But as a personal note, it sounds like you need to take a brake. As in your text you are talking about yourself, even though you distance yourself and use "we" instead. And looks like you are looking for people to agree with the advice to yourself..

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December 27, 2023, 06:19:18 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun.
Do you ask yourself the same thing when you spend money drinking, eating out, hanging around with friends, purchasing fancy accessories you really don't need as basic need and so on? Does it worth to spend money with all these things in name of fun? I think so. Money exists to serve us, and not the opposite. We need money for our basic needs and appointments, but also for our pleasure and satisfaction. If gambling gives you pleasure and satisfaction, it's not an issue if you are losing more money than winning on long run.

Some people weight the pros and cons and still conclude gambling is suitable for them, as they don't feel too attracted by another hobbies people use to enjoy. So let them be happy gambling. It's definitely not a lie to say people gamble for fun, although it depends on which kind of person we are talking about. If the gambler is playing avid for profits, it will be a lie if he says he is gambling for fun, but there are other gamblers who really play for fun. They don't begin their gambling session with fixed goals in mind to be achieved. They let it happen naturally and if it doesn't, they go home peacefully, hoping to have a better luck next day.

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December 27, 2023, 06:38:42 PM
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Think about the following scenario: in your neighborhood, your friends decide to organize a football game in which you will participate. You will be on team A while your friends will be on team B. They will bet money, the winning team will take all the money. See, when you leave your house to the field where the football game is going to be held, you don't know who will win all the way, but you know that someone will lose and lose money. So why would you be going to the field to play knowing that you are going to lose money? the reason why you will go to the field to play even though you know that there is a high risk of losing money is because there is hope that you can win and win the money, because of this hope and desire to emerge as a winner, you will not give up playing and during the game you will forget that you have friends on the field and you will look at them as opponents that you need to beat at all costs and it will no longer be just because of the money, you will fight to win because you want to look at everyone on the field with the feeling that you are a victorious, good person. in what you do. That's what happens when people play games.

no one plays to lose, everyone when they put money in the casino, they do it because they have hope that they will win and come away with profits, the fun comes later during the game, this is because when people play they like to feel that they are in control, that they are superior to the casino and that they can win. The problem arises when they can't win and they start to have many losing streaks and they chase losses and lose everything. rich people with a lot of business, play with a lot of money, play for many hours and for fun because they don't need that money they are playing, when they lose money at the casino, the next day they will have 2x of that money they lost, because there are many business. So they just play for fun

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December 27, 2023, 06:54:48 PM
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We have debated on this topic quite a number of times, i think it is high time we let everyone believe in what they want to believe.  For those who do not see gambling as a fun activity, will you stop playing a game simply because you lost the game? Oh yea! You used money go gamble therefore the outcome should be winning and no loss? People spend a lot just to have fun.

 Until we understand how gambling works, we will not make it a serious affair. Gambling is a game of luck and if we channel our minds to making profits,  we might in most cases keep chasing losses with just little wins. This doesn't always end well as it may lead to a gambling problem. Yea we know there are professional gamblers  who make a living from gambling, this set of people have trained themselves over the years to accept whatever the outcome of their games will be.

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