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December 27, 2023, 07:24:45 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings
That proves that gambling is for fun and not for making money from casinos. Casinos have a house edge that gives them a guaranteed mathematical advantage over long-term. Think about casinos the way you think about Xbox game pass. When you play casino games, you pay some money to experience the game, to get fun from it like you get fun from a video game for which you paid 50$.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.
It's a nice bonus to win money but I have been in touch with many gamblers and I know that many of them, especially rich gamblers, play for fun and don't care about money. Btw poor gamblers usually want to win the jackpot and profit from casino to escape poverty but that's not a right mindset to register and play on casino.

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December 27, 2023, 07:26:01 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Well, we can compare it to people having fun on cinema, hiking or even eating foods.  Did they win something?  Obviously aside from fun, they win nothing.  Gambling have its unique feature that is distinctive.  That is the possibility to win while having fun. Unlike those entertainment activity that only gives us spending.

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Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

It is given the fun in gambling is winning money while enjoying the game.  Some may not think of that but I believe majority of gamblers are hoping to win from their bet.

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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

Will you call watching the cinema fun if you know for sure that you are losing money in buying tickets and some snacks to eat while watching?  

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December 27, 2023, 07:56:00 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.
This is not entirely true, some people gain more than they lost monthly or yearly, I have a circle of friends who continue to make me see the reason for gambling though I haven't have a better record but man those guys really do get it though they still make losses but cumulatively their cashout is higher.
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
yes it's still fun especially when you have a circle of friends to discuss it with (including the win and loss), as long as you are not addicted to gambling I don't see anything bad in it just work with the strategy that works better for you. Currently I'm sticking with using little to get big since I have noticed that the number of times I ever won a bet is usually the unexpected games

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December 27, 2023, 07:59:08 PM
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Gambling is actually for fun, but it will be more fun if we also take profits on the side. That's why we also gamble not just for fun but we also do it to earn and income. Unfortunately, not all are given opportunities to win as a lot are only losing while they are trying to follow their urge in gambling. Once your losses outnumbered your profits, obviously it's not fun anymore, but still people even gamble more to recover their losses. Some might be lucky to make a big win in the end, while others continue to lose until they used up all their funds and regret why they enter gambling in the first place.
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December 27, 2023, 08:07:29 PM
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

But there's fun in trying to beat the odds... Gambling with the amount we can afford to lose is exactly that, we know that we are playing against the odds and we need to be ready to lose, but there's that chance, sometimes a tiny one, that we can pull it off and make some profit.

So it's not a complete lie that we gamble for fun, we gamble and we are trying to win of course, we would like to win as big as possible... but a real gambler knows that winning is not always possible and that gambling is full of ups and downs. So we need to enjoy the process, up or down we have fun chasing the big prize! Good luck all the players! Smiley

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December 27, 2023, 08:20:51 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun.
Do you ask yourself the same thing when you spend money drinking, eating out, hanging around with friends, purchasing fancy accessories you really don't need as basic need and so on? Does it worth to spend money with all these things in name of fun? I think so. Money exists to serve us, and not the opposite. We need money for our basic needs and appointments, but also for our pleasure and satisfaction. If gambling gives you pleasure and satisfaction, it's not an issue if you are losing more money than winning on long run.

Some people weight the pros and cons and still conclude gambling is suitable for them, as they don't feel too attracted by another hobbies people use to enjoy. So let them be happy gambling. It's definitely not a lie to say people gamble for fun, although it depends on which kind of person we are talking about. If the gambler is playing avid for profits, it will be a lie if he says he is gambling for fun, but there are other gamblers who really play for fun. They don't begin their gambling session with fixed goals in mind to be achieved. They let it happen naturally and if it doesn't, they go home peacefully, hoping to have a better luck next day.

Gambling for fun shouldn't be considered a lie, because it's true that gambling can offer us some fun. Same way other utilities make us happy and put us in a good mood. The only pain and difference is that gamblers think money going into gambling is a waste. But, lots of opportunities follow the practice. Gambling is more fun to society and offers players a better lifestyle if they handle their emotions and neglect the aim of earning lots of money through gambling. Those are only a few rewards and must be expected to appear luckily. If we have looked into the process and discovered that the winning and losses don't match, the first mentioned happens less than the later. Those who play strictly for fun don't feel regret and also know the importance of gambling and how it works. The goal of gamblers is to understand the hidden treasures in gambling. How it helps our brain to grow or fail, depends on the thoughts of the player. If he's interested in money his brain could fail him and endanger his future gambling journey. Which is not the right journey for any gambler.

But, those who see the relevant aspect of gambling, will make a fortune out through it, by diverting the ideas gotten through gambling to solve real-life problems. If a player is observant of the results and actions he takes in gambling, he won't have a hard time making the right decisions in life. When a gambler only focuses on money, his only motive would be headed for the big money, and he'll lose out on other important skills one could derive from gambling. This delivers fun to the player, since he's not concerned about money, that only swings the mode of the gambler, especially when he has lost money. Gamblers only need to follow the right choice or lane in gambling that will help improve their view on gambling. Not minding the bad review society points at gambling. It still offers some good qualities and changes in the life of most gamblers.

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December 27, 2023, 08:31:32 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
If I have to reply you from the same premise you are coming from I am sure you will understand one thing about gambling and involving in it as a fun or a means of getting money. From the illustration you get above if someone is investing and that investment does not yield depositive result I think they will quit and try other kind of investments. In the same vein if someone is gambling and they are losing and yet they did not want to quit, that means they are having fun doing that, it is as simple as that.

However generally speaking the idea that gambling is for fun is somehow applicable only to the rich men and people that have steady sauce of income because they choose how much they would want to spend and have fun. But somehow who does not even know what they will eat for dinner and manages to bring out the small money they have to gamble they will inevitably expect much from it and that means that they are not having fun rather they are chasing winnings. So, it is correct to conclude that do some gambling is for fun, while to others it is not for fun.

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December 27, 2023, 08:45:32 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun.

You certainly don’t know for sure and can only conclude on your rate of losses being far greater than the rate at which you have won your bets.
There are people that have, through out their gambling history, have won a lot more than they’ve lost out. While it’s safe to say these people are few, they’re there.

People partake in different activities for different reasons.  And there are people who get thrills from gambling. They derive fun from the activity as they play leisurely. Of course, it helps when you don’t see gambling as a source of income.
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
This might be different for each person. But if I'm not a hypocrite, gambling isn't just for fun. So, be as serious as possible in studying what you are going to bet on. Whatever the outcome, at least I'm serious about doing it. Moreover, I'm not someone who often gets lucky, so I can't rely on luck in gambling. and because of this, I have to have good and wise fund management so that I don't get addicted to gambling and so that I can still control myself to know when it's time to start, continue and stop.

But I don't think gambling is just for fun. If we always lose at gambling, no matter how much, will we continue to feel like it's fun? I do not think so.

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December 27, 2023, 09:33:03 PM
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
This might be different for each person. But if I'm not a hypocrite, gambling isn't just for fun. So, be as serious as possible in studying what you are going to bet on. Whatever the outcome, at least I'm serious about doing it. Moreover, I'm not someone who often gets lucky, so I can't rely on luck in gambling. and because of this, I have to have good and wise fund management so that I don't get addicted to gambling and so that I can still control myself to know when it's time to start, continue and stop.

But I don't think gambling is just for fun. If we always lose at gambling, no matter how much, will we continue to feel like it's fun? I do not think so.
The game always has to be seen as fun, it cannot be seen as a normal income, things are quite obvious when they happen that way because seeing that the game is to become millionaires things are very bad, you lose money and that is What should be avoided, at all costs I avoid spending my money and I don't see the game as income, I see it as enjoyment, but I always have it in my mind to win, because luck is something that can come at any time, that's what that you can't stop doing.

When I'm in a casino I always look to win because it's what I like the most, but who doesn't like to win? Everyone, anyone who says they don't like winning must be very masochistic, so if we try to win by making good plays, we have to anticipate good luck at all times, and that luck has to be focused on victory and money, because If there is no money, you don't play, there is nothing.

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I don't think nobody gambles for fun... I keep saying this everyday in here; no matter how it sounds -- who would maintain such faithfulness when they know too well that anyone could possibly win good cash? Has anyone grown into addiction from just playing for fun? If not, then playing for fun isn't accountable at all.

To be more factual, addicts are compulsive gamblers that are always ready to adapt to new strategies to WIN -- though they've been flopped by over a thousand already.. nobody would do anything that doesn't pay, talkmore of wasting money on it...

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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

No it's a real thing if you consider what you are doing is for entertainment and it is not impeding any of your life's responsibilities.  I know people who spend $1,000 for a concert ticket that last 3 hours.  They find it entertaining, in essence "they lost" $1000.  What's the difference putting $100 on the game and buying a ticket to go watch it live for a couple hundred dollars.  If it makes the game more entertaining than that is what you are paying for.

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Everyone go into gambling with different motives and there are people who don't care about the money they lose in gambling, because they are making more money from other sources of their investments. There are things you do in life not because of the profitability rather you want to satisfy an inward desire.
. Yes and that is where the fun part of it comes into play,  because while some believes that gambling is solely for the profits which makes them to think and believe that there is no one gambling for the fun and everyone gambling os for the money,  this kind of thought have affected alot of them in the past and we have always advice that,  as a gambler you should take our the time to properly outline what you really want and at the same time be able to come up whether you gambling for the fun or for the profits,  your answer to that determine your standing on the matter.
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December 27, 2023, 10:04:39 PM
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I think gambling can be said to be for fun if you come with a recommended goal or come with a goal not to look for the winning amount. Actually, I personally think the idea of gambling just for fun is nothing more than something that can change someone's mindset on the point of view of gambling, which means to prevent them from the idea of gambling to win because of the many temptations that of course can make them think that gambling can be used as a place to earn, and that is dangerous because actually this activity is not a place to earn, the bookie makes casinos as a place to make profits from some losing gamblers, so I think with that statement alone we should be able to conclude that it is unethical if we come with the aim of earning.

Because when gamblers have such thoughts, it is clear that the number of attempts they make will be more frequent or more because their main focus is to get a large number of wins and of course with that, there will be more losses that make gamblers lose fun. So to minimize that from happening especially so as not to have a mistake in the point of view of gambling then we must make this activity nothing more than an activity to find entertainment when you have boring free time.

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December 27, 2023, 10:09:14 PM
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
Everyone who gambles is already aware that there's a higher chance of losing than winning. And with such regards, instead of having that mindset that we'll easily lose.

We're thinking of the outcome positively and while doing it, it's not gonna hurt to be optimistic while having fun. So, that's it, you choose your battle and experience as you gamble.

Whether you'll have a negative thinking that you're ready to lose which is normal or the opposite and to have fun while it lasts.

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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun.
When you gamble, don’t you feel happy in the process of doing it? I agree with you that after calculating the amount won and lost in gambling, your loss might be more than your profit. That’s why you should gamble with a reasonable amount of money, don’t gamble with the amount that will affect you after losing. When you gamble with a small amount, it’s not going to affect you after losing because you already had fun gambling. When research is done, then you will discover that most people do lose rather than win, but you will discover that most people who do lose much in gambling are the ones who are addicted to gambling, the ones who gamble just because they want to make money from gambling. If you have that mindset, then you will always feel bad because you will always lose more.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.
You are right, some people are claiming they are gambling for fun, but they are just deceiving themselves. The main reason why they are gambling is just for the sake of money. People like that do annoy me because I don’t know why they are pretending. If you want money from gambling, then no one will do anything about it. So why deceive yourself thinking you are deceiving people?

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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
But there's fun in trying to beat the odds... Gambling with the amount we can afford to lose is exactly that, we know that we are playing against the odds and we need to be ready to lose, but there's that chance, sometimes a tiny one, that we can pull it off and make some profit.

So it's not a complete lie that we gamble for fun, we gamble and we are trying to win of course, we would like to win as big as possible... but a real gambler knows that winning is not always possible and that gambling is full of ups and downs. So we need to enjoy the process, up or down we have fun chasing the big prize! Good luck all the players! Smiley
The enjoyment indeed stems from the thrill of the chase with acknowledging the ups and downs that come with it. The responsible approach sets the foundation for an enjoyable experience, because it mitigates the potential negative consequences of financial losses. This is how a gambler should be.

Knowing that winning is not always possible demonstrates a realistic understanding of the nature of gambling. This recognition distinguishes true gamblers from those who may approach the activity with unrealistic expectations of consistent success. Enjoying the process is the journey to fulfill the enjoyment that comes from participating in the activity rather than solely focusing on the end result.

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December 27, 2023, 11:06:03 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
It only becomes a lie when you believe it is a lie. Does it make sense? The thing is that there is fun to be had when you're gambling, it's not what other people make it to be which is "nothing but a way for me to make money on the side hurr durr" at the end of the day you know that you're not gonna end up with the same amount of money that you came in with, and if you're going to lose the money anyway, might as well make it fun and enjoyable. Which is what most of us responsible gamblers are shooting for. It only becomes weird and stupid when you suddenly assume that no one can't gamble for fun cause even you had to be stressed when you lose money. Which is true to some degree, but at the end of the day responsible gamblers have stuff at their disposal that they can use to make the most out of their gambling journey, even when they are losing money.

Plus the thing is that the common misconception about gambling is you only have fun when you win, but if you gamble with friends, you gamble when you know how much money you can put in, or perhaps just gambling to show off your skills at a certain game you inadvertently make gambling fun for you and for everyone that's around you, and that is why for some people, they can find entertainment and fun in gambling even when they lose money. It's about making the most out of your money, one way or another.

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December 27, 2023, 11:12:33 PM
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I think you're over analyzing this.  I am an example of someone whom truly gambles just for fun.  I have been gambling for I don't know, maybe close to 20 years now, and I've never got myself to the point where I had to ask myself if I was gambling for fun or if I had some sort of addiction. I certainly consider myself extremely lucky for not getting addicted..but am proof that not everyone who does, is a gamble-holic. 

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December 27, 2023, 11:21:05 PM
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I think you're over analyzing this.  I am an example of someone whom truly gambles just for fun.  I have been gambling for I don't know, maybe close to 20 years now, and I've never got myself to the point where I had to ask myself if I was gambling for fun or if I had some sort of addiction. I certainly consider myself extremely lucky for not getting addicted..but am proof that not everyone who does, is a gamble-holic. 

The gambler will not gamble for few years,it is like the gambling from his inheritance.If the gambler parents and grandparents had the influence of the gambling,even though his parents would have stop their children from gambling.The kid will do the gambling without the knowledge of the family and even if they play in his home.He will separate themselves from the family to play the game.If the gamblers get the free space and some dollars for the gambling,the good news is he can enjoy the gambling till his death.Because once the gamblers always the gamblers.Some gamblers in this section post about the retirement of gambling,but the real fact is the gamblers will not stop gambling.It may happen in the old ages because of no money.

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