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December 27, 2023, 11:21:25 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
Depends on a certain person on which there are really those people who are really that playing for fun totally or honestly but due to the longer engagement and time you've been spending towards it
then those things that you've been have in mind earlier would definitely be changed up but everything would really be depending into someones mindset and control. Each person does have that different set or level of tolerance when it comes to risks and on the situation that they are facing. When they are stressed because of too much losses then those emotions would be taking over and to those things
that you have set before would really be changed up anytime and this is where things making up some u-turn and this is where people do really ends up on being busted.

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December 27, 2023, 11:31:26 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
How fun can gambling be? Gambling should not be considered as a source of income if the amount of money gained is less than the amount of money lost in gambling. Since gambling causes financial damage, psychological damage, social damage as well, it can be characterized as a social problem. However, since gambling creates a form of addiction in people, it should also be considered as a social addiction. However, since people like to spend a certain part of their lives in gambling, gambling is also considered by some as a source of entertainment.

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December 27, 2023, 11:35:49 PM
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There are gamblers who are real gamblers and are aiming to make money while doing it. But there are also gamblers that can be said to be recreational gamblers and they are doing it mostly just to have fun. With that, there's no need for any argument whether someone gambles for money or for fun. IMO, let them do what they wanna do because we're all in it for the reasons that are valuable to us.

We can be actual gamblers and are on it for the money and when we lose, we can have some adjustment and just say that we're just looking for some fun.  Grin
Actually, it doesn't matter right? Because what matters here is that you are not gambling with others money and it is your money that you are gambling with. Because if you're for the both or either and you're gambling not with your own money then that's where the argument starts and the reminders about on how we should be able to be good gamblers regardless of the reason we do. We should only gamble what we own, and we should lose what we own, and gain what we own.

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December 27, 2023, 11:36:31 PM
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
the thing is, once you accept that losing is part of gambling and it is inevitable to happen, that is when you start enjoying the game itself and not just the gambling part of it. of course, I am not gonna lie that winning is a huge part of why gambling is fun, but having fun when gambling is not just about winning, there are people who actually enjoy the process of the game especially when it comes to card games.

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December 27, 2023, 11:58:11 PM
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Hope has fostered a sense of disillusionment with gambling. Because what we dream of does not match the reality, expectations are not as beautiful as reality. It is excessive expectations and expectations that have made us lose the pleasure of gambling, because if we behave like this, then we will never again enjoy the gambling process... because we are always waiting for the perfect ending. However, gambling is all about possibilities, maybe you win and maybe you can also lose... in gambling we really can't guarantee that every time we gamble, we will always win. So stop those excessive expectations and hopes, never think that gambling can make us rich, never think that by gambling our money will be multiplied many times over. Remain in the opinion that gambling is about fun, so never focus on the end result, but enjoy the process or the game.

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December 28, 2023, 02:16:07 AM
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I believe It is not a lie, it is rather a philosophy or way of thinking which is hard or difficult to successfully apply to ourselves at 100%, which is the ideal we all would like to have but cannot reach completely. Most of the people may see the "gambling for fun" thing as a way to cope for losses they did not have to see happening, so they can continue and move on from it and there is nothing ring about it, if that is what keep us within the responsible zone as gamblers and adults.
Sometimes it is not the expectation itself and it is harmful to us, but the amount of expectation we have on something which is very uncertain to happen.

Anyone would love to see their balance doubling by gambling in their favorite casinos there is no doubt about it, all of us like to have some extra money, but that is not supposed to be our explicit objective when logging into our casino accounts, if we happen to get it, then let us embrace it as a surprise which we were not counting on to pay for the things we need and want.

So in conclusion, it is not a lie most if the cases, but rather a coping mechanism.

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December 28, 2023, 02:28:49 AM
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It's natural because gambling was created for people who can afford to lose money and can enjoy the types of bets and games. In fact, indeed most gamblers definitely hope to make a profit if they play and sometimes gamblers can make a loss because they lose and if calculated in the 1st term in a month, gamblers definitely experience more losses than profits, that's what gambling is, if everyone makes a profit from gambling, the gambling platform will automatically go bankrupt because the aim of the casino was created to get as much profit as possible from its users.

Therefore, if your goal is not to have fun and you are not willing to lose money gambling, it is better to avoid it, but if you are ready to lose money, then start gambling and don't expect to make a profit and use as little money as possible so that you are not too burdened with the money you spend, let's just say you need entertainment and you can't get the money back.

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December 28, 2023, 03:36:22 AM
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As someone who claims to gamble for fun I would like to make a comment here as well. Yes, human nature constantly finds an excuse to defend itself but it should also be known that not everyone who claims to gamble for fun does so to defend themselves. For example, we cannot claim that someone who stops gambling without reloading the balance when the budget he/she wants to spend on gambling is exhausted doesn't gamble for fun and we cannot say that this person is addicted.

As I stated in my message in the previous title; "Matches left to the last minute in sports betting, the excitement of the roulette wheel spinning, the adrenaline I release when I approach 21 and ask for a card and the spin of slot machines have never been more than a form of fun for me. As I mentioned, when I gamble I play knowing that the chances of a big win are very low and I just have fun with the excitement of this process.''

In summary, if someone who bets with an amount that will not strain his/her budget, doesn't constantly make additions in case his/her balance runs out and doesn't feel the need to gamble constantly claims that he/she gambles for fun, it would be wrong to say that this person is defending himself/herself or that he/she is addicted to gambling.
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December 28, 2023, 03:56:01 AM
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This topic amuses me, because it is a bitter truth.It is really true that we lie to ourselves that gambling is fun especially when we lose money,and we still say it's fun.There is nobody who will derive joy in something that is removing money from his bank account.Every gambler who says gambling is fun is not a regular gambler, because if he was a regular gambler,he will calculate the amount he loses every minutes that he plays,and the amount lost each time he plays,and then he will see whether it will be a thing of fun or something to cry about.Gambling of a truth can never be fun because of the loses involved.

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December 28, 2023, 04:22:36 AM
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This topic amuses me, because it is a bitter truth.It is really true that we lie to ourselves that gambling is fun especially when we lose money,and we still say it's fun.There is nobody who will derive joy in something that is removing money from his bank account.Every gambler who says gambling is fun is not a regular gambler, because if he was a regular gambler,he will calculate the amount he loses every minutes that he plays,and the amount lost each time he plays,and then he will see whether it will be a thing of fun or something to cry about.Gambling of a truth can never be fun because of the loses involved.
As long as the money is money that we can afford, and it doesn't matter if the money ends up being used for gambling, we shouldn't feel like we are lying to ourselves because we already know that the money can be used for gambling, but we still gamble. If we know and don't want to lie to ourselves and don't want to see the money just run out because of gambling, we don't need to gamble. No one asks us to gamble, but it is because of our own desire that we really want to gamble, so we know the consequences. The important thing is that we can enjoy gambling games in our free time and not worry about everything that will happen after we finish gambling because that is the money we can afford to gamble with. It's different if we really want to chase victory and gamble with a certain amount of money but suddenly, we lose and spend all the money. There is a feeling of regret for why we gamble.

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December 28, 2023, 04:26:20 AM
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I don't think this is overall lie for average person in society. But regular gambler can hardly become "fun seeking gambler". When someone starts gambling regularly, probably daily or at least 4 times a week - he will %90 turn into money seeking type of gambler. After couple of wins you get through your bets you will definitely start enjoying only winning part of that gambling adventure. Money converts people. This is sort of dark truth about gambling community. Luckily it is not very hard to tackle in my opinion.
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December 28, 2023, 06:42:01 AM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

If you settle down and read this your post again and again, you will realize that you just explained how fun gambling can be despite our loss experiences and it's never a lie we tell ourselves. The fact is that practically, fun and gambling can not be totally separated and it doesn't matter of whether you are winning or losing because the very nature of gambling is designed to be exciting and thrilling and it's this excitement that makes it to be so appealing. Gambling can be a form of entertainment and can provide excitement and a sense of risk and the potential to win money make it to be more fun despite that it's unlikely.

I know the pain of losing money and losing too much of your money to gambling will not let you to see the fun part of the gambling hence, the idea of responsible gambling with the amount of money you can afford to lose and enjoy the fun aspect of the game. Winning is just an added advantage. You pay, you enjoy the moment and you probably win some money again if you're lucky.

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December 28, 2023, 06:54:15 AM
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But that's gambling. Whether we like it or not, we gamble and feel how it can give us excitement, happiness and entertainment, but there are times when it gives us stress and anger, but we still play and don't feel unfair about it.
I don't want to be a hypocrite, but sometimes I also feel that why do I gamble when I have a losing streak, but when I hit a winning streak it all pays off. It's funny when you think about it, but even now I still gamble and still enjoy it without thinking too much about my losses.

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December 28, 2023, 07:01:23 AM
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There is no way to know if someone is lying about having fun in gambling but I have seen someone who quit from gambling because he had hopes of changing his life using gambling and it doesn't work out, after few months of quitting he is back and this time only to have fun.

I think that those who later find out that gambling with the hope to make wealth is impossible are those who decide to proceed using what they can afford to lose and stop chasing money, I consider such people smart, because they learn their lessons fast, where some people are trapped in the delusion like forever.

Gambling is fun only if you make it to be fun, and expectations of money must be neutralized first before you will start enjoying your time when gambling, go slower and stay in the safest side, using small amount of money, you will do great

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December 28, 2023, 07:01:46 AM
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This topic amuses me, because it is a bitter truth.It is really true that we lie to ourselves that gambling is fun especially when we lose money,and we still say it's fun.
That words mostly comes from people who does not even know gambling but needs to make a comment for their post to be counted  because how stupid is someone that can called it fun when they are losing?
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There is nobody who will derive joy in something that is removing money from his bank account.Every gambler who says gambling is fun is not a regular gambler, because if he was a regular gambler,he will calculate the amount he loses every minutes that he plays,and the amount lost each time he plays,and then he will see whether it will be a thing of fun or something to cry about.Gambling of a truth can never be fun because of the loses involved.
Maybe it is welcome to tell that you have fun while playing and can consider also while losing because there are still chance to recover but once  all the capital is gone ? then that is full stupidity to say its fun when you are going home without even gas money because of losing.

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December 28, 2023, 07:07:05 AM
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But that's gambling. Whether we like it or not, we gamble and feel how it can give us excitement, happiness and entertainment, but there are times when it gives us stress and anger, but we still play and don't feel unfair about it.
I don't want to be a hypocrite, but sometimes I also feel that why do I gamble when I have a losing streak, but when I hit a winning streak it all pays off. It's funny when you think about it, but even now I still gamble and still enjoy it without thinking too much about my losses.
Yeah, if there is one thing certain in gambling, it's the fact that it's an activity filled with bend corners, the fact that gambling should mainly be for fun does not mean that its one without challenges.

In the real world, people get injured while doing something they love to do, this is also the same with gambling, I could lose a good amount of money while having fun, and on the other hand, I could win a good amount of money as well, but what I think is most important is that, we don't count the loses too important, for when we win, we wil be happy and forget totally about the number of times we lost.

So, what I usually say to people is, it is not by force to play gambling for fun, you could from time to time play for money, but make sure to not count the losses too important like I said before, make sure to enjoy the game, and be happy overall, whether in winning or losing, this is how to be a healthy gambler.

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December 28, 2023, 07:35:25 AM
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It's probably a lie for someone like you OP, but not for me, because I know it's near impossible to beat the casino, that's why I believe that having fun and risking few dollars is the best approach to gambling, you think otherwise? Do you thing, but I can assure you that you will have stories to tell about how you lost a lot to gambling.

I have lost some money too but not a lot that could have gotten me sometime better, it's the type of money that I can give someone for free without expecting them to pay me back, it's not worth losing a lot to gambling and it's so possible to end up on this path if you strongly believe in gambling, I don't, and I don't want to, still I choose to enjoy some games risking very little amount of money.

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December 28, 2023, 07:43:50 AM
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It's probably a lie for someone like you OP, but not for me, because I know it's near impossible to beat the casino, that's why I believe that having fun and risking few dollars is the best approach to gambling, you think otherwise? Do you thing, but I can assure you that you will have stories to tell about how you lost a lot to gambling.

I have lost some money too but not a lot that could have gotten me sometime better, it's the type of money that I can give someone for free without expecting them to pay me back, it's not worth losing a lot to gambling and it's so possible to end up on this path if you strongly believe in gambling, I don't, and I don't want to, still I choose to enjoy some games risking very little amount of money.

Same with me, I find gambling fun because I don't count my losses, although deep inside I know that I already lose a lot of money as of now but due to the entertainment factor that gambling is bringing into my life, I'm still here because my big wins makes me smile everytime I remember them.

IMO, losing in gambling is not a problem since it's normal, and as long as we have a consistent source of income, either from our job or our own business, we will sure be living a satisfied life while ocassionally gambling as well, or maybe even regularly as long as we will not risk beyond our limit.

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December 28, 2023, 07:55:51 AM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

As long as you have a dopamine boost in your brain while you gamble, then yes, gambling is fun. Having a dopamine boost isn't "lying to yourself". Your body and your brain is having fun, I don't think that your body and brain can lie. Maybe your rational mind denies the fact that gambling is fun, but your subconscious mind wants more and more dopamine and this is what dominates and controls your behavior.
If you gamble with the sole purpose of "making money" gambling becomes stressful and the "having fun" part goes away.
Is gambling a productive way to spend time and money? Nope. Some activities and hobbies are fun and productive. Gambling isn't productive at all. That's why gambling is considered a bad habit, just like porn, gaming, drinking alcohol, doing drugs.

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December 28, 2023, 10:22:41 AM
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So, what I usually say to people is, it is not by force to play gambling for fun, you could from time to time play for money, but make sure to not count the losses too important like I said before, make sure to enjoy the game, and be happy overall, whether in winning or losing, this is how to be a healthy gambler.
Yes, everyone has the right to choose to gamble for money or for fun as long as it is under proper control, there is no problem with that because usually people overdo it and become addicted to gambling because they gamble for money, which is different from gamblers who have fun even though we know Having fun in this case doesn't mean it's not for money, it just means changing our mindset so that it doesn't become our demand to win when gambling. I'm sure you understand the meaning.

A healthy mindset will enable gamblers to gamble healthily, not too follow their ambitions to win big and follow their emotions just for the sake of money, gamblers must be able to enjoy the game so they are not too careless in managing the tempo of the bets made, the point is to remain in proper control therefore It is important to control yourself so as not to get trapped and addicted to gambling.

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