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Author Topic: Gambling for fun, is it a lie that we tell ourselves?  (Read 1037 times)
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January 03, 2024, 08:16:28 AM
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Yes it will be a lie to us if we get addicted on gambling and make the gambling for only one purpose for earning and also get into the greediness. So it is natural that those public will not or can not take the gambling for the purpose of entertainment. So ultimately those who we take gambling as an purpose or desire of our entertainment are always make gambling for the fun and it is not lie for them.
Those who have a lot of money and spend their money to go to the casino to get pleasure, is the way they rich people spend their money with friends to relieve stress or just joke.

But most of the poor people they throw money in the casino just to look for the possibility of multiplying money that is not expected by them, so most people think that the casino is claimed as a place to find pleasure is a hoax, but basically depending on what they use gambling to be like, has two opposite views and it is not wrong in my opinion depending on where you stand and think about gambling itself.

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January 03, 2024, 08:53:59 AM
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To be honest, that kind of question shouldn't even have been uttered, imagine the amount of people that have been enjoying their gambling experience for a really long time and then this question popped up out of nowhere and now they don't know if they're genuine about their experience. To me though, I do think that if someone's faking their fun with gambling, they would feel it and the people around them would feel it so we don't have to be too in depth about all this stuff.

Gambling is for fun or entertainment but not every individual is having fun, some individuals are lying when they say they're having fun as they're not. You can't be having fun if you're losing unless you're very rich and the loss doesn't affect you. Only the rich can say they're having fun when they're losing and it'll be true as some rich people just want to get entertained at the cost of anything. Middle class individuals and poor individuals wants to make money that's why they're gambling.

I think we should be true to ourselves so we don't lose all our money in trying to make more money, if you're gambling and not having fun gambling due to the amount of money that you're losing, I think you have to stop gambling and put that money to a good use by investing in things that'll bring you more money but not take money from you. You can invest in Bitcoin and you'll make more profits during the bull market.

It's true that many people gamble with the aim of having fun, in my opinion it depends on how we respond to gambling, because many people gamble and become addicted to gambling because they can't accept the losses that have occurred so they make another deposit. and gambling again with the aim of recovering the losses that have occurred and as a result this all triggers them to become addicted to gambling and obviously, people will hide this addiction, it is impossible for anyone to reveal their gambling addiction, if there is one, maybe only a small part of it.

You are right, if you really want to make a lot of money, of course you don't have to gamble, even the money you have lost due to gambling can be calculated to be a large amount, if from the start it was spent investing in Bitcoin, you might have generated quite a bit of profit. In my opinion, some of the many gamblers are lying to themselves, not admitting their addiction even though they are addicted to gambling. they must be able to think about choosing better things by spending their money wisely.

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January 03, 2024, 08:56:08 AM
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Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.
Well, it's normal to gamble with such hope. However if that's your main goal on why you're playing, then you can't really enjoy the games because you're pressured to win since that's your goal and having losses are not fine. But if your reason to play is to kill time and to be entertained regardless of the outcome, it just shows that you are just having fun, therefore it depends on what you desire.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
This is the reason why you need to condition yourself before deciding to use your money in gambling. If you can't bear the thought of facing losses when you gamble then gambling is not meant for you just to have fun.

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January 03, 2024, 10:20:11 AM
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What exactly should be the motive of someone gambling?
A lot of persons may have different opinions. However, in my opinion the right motive of gambling should actually be to win and have fun. Sometimes people fail to gain the right motive when indulging in gambling activities therefore making them in most cases lose consecutively. Many a time gambling losses are as a result of the player staking emotionally or trying to act greedy or something. And these can affect their chances of winning potentially and negatively sometimes.

Gambling in my opinion is supposed to be a form of fun .but it seems more like it isn't this days since a lot of persons are actually having zero fun and actually caring about wins only.
Sometimes physical gambling activities can even lead to violence making a lot of people talking online gambling as a safer and more fun option. Besides digital games tend to be sometimes more interesting than regular physical ones.

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January 03, 2024, 11:16:45 AM
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What exactly should be the motive of someone gambling?
A lot of persons may have different opinions. However, in my opinion the right motive of gambling should actually be to win and have fun. Sometimes people fail to gain the right motive when indulging in gambling activities therefore making them in most cases lose consecutively. Many a time gambling losses are as a result of the player staking emotionally or trying to act greedy or something. And these can affect their chances of winning potentially and negatively sometimes.

Gambling in my opinion is supposed to be a form of fun .but it seems more like it isn't this days since a lot of persons are actually having zero fun and actually caring about wins only.
Sometimes physical gambling activities can even lead to violence making a lot of people talking online gambling as a safer and more fun option. Besides digital games tend to be sometimes more interesting than regular physical ones.

We have the same thoughts and upon observation, that's true that the essence of gambling is really missing, that it should give pleasure and fun at least, But in the case of what I see, what is currently happening is far from what it used to be, especially majority of gamblers only focused on winning.

Physical gambling activities is not that safe today because like what you've said, it can lead to violence to every people and worst is possible it will leads to crime. Since there's a lot of circulating news in social media nowadays about crimes in a gambling house because of misunderstanding, debt and being mentally unstable, some gamblers prefer to use online gambling apps and websites as they think it is much safer and convenient to them.



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January 03, 2024, 12:08:19 PM
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We have the same thoughts and upon observation, that's true that the essence of gambling is really missing, that it should give pleasure and fun at least, But in the case of what I see, what is currently happening is far from what it used to be, especially majority of gamblers only focused on winning.
well, this is the mistake of today's gamblers who cannot think maturely and ignore how gambling works and only think that gambling is only to get money whereas when gambling first appeared it was only for gambling and the loss of this essence is due to mindset of gamblers who cannot understand all of these.
sometimes I think that the increase in the number of gamblers around the world and also the increase in addiction is almost equivalent to the increase in the development of the gambling business today and why do people think that gambling to earn money while the way gambling works is provided to provide entertainment for gamblers with a budget that can afford to lose.

but I understand this condition because the increase in  gambling business also provides an increase in advertising and many influencers broadcast live showing the games they play and always show big wins and there are lots of videos circulating about big wins that encourage the minds of weak gamblers to think if they can win. big wins from gambling so they dont think about gambling to have fun but to earn money but what is very funny is that when asked by other people what the motivation is for gambling they say to look for fun and that is a lie.

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January 03, 2024, 12:50:50 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

Incurring too many losses in gambling doesn't really matter to someone that has a good job and doing very well because he can play gamble without being affected if he loses so the people that sees gambling as not funful in a case of running into too many losses are people that either they don't have a job, or they earn less as a result whenever they place a bet they are always inquisitive on the game playing.

 Inasmuch much as gambling is concerned, one doesn't even need to calculate his profits and loss in gambling but rather just gamble responsibly and don't allow your gambling to affect your daily activities or make you become addicted. Though there are times when we feel so bad when we lose a bet especially when it involves a huge amount but that doesn't mean that we will feel too bad about it even if we do it's just gonna be at that material time and afterwards moves on.

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January 03, 2024, 12:52:19 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

now, what is gambling to you? for me, gambling is expensive entertainment and contains a lot of risk. then, what allows us to have fun and get pleasure. yeah, the answer depends on each individual.


Thanks for your analysis, I specially captured this sentence from your post because it really gives meaning to your perspective of fun and gambling, to you it's expensive entertainment that contains a lot of risks. I can relate to that because certain people can actually be entertained by losing their money, only I used to think that it's only the super rich people that can gamble with such a mindset, but if an average income earner can truthfully gamble without caring whether they win or lose, then it'll truly be qualified as an expensive fun. I guess that is why it's often advice that we should gamble the amount that we can afford to loose, so that the risks of having fun can be minimized.

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January 03, 2024, 04:49:04 PM
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We have the same thoughts and upon observation, that's true that the essence of gambling is really missing, that it should give pleasure and fun at least, But in the case of what I see, what is currently happening is far from what it used to be, especially majority of gamblers only focused on winning.
well, this is the mistake of today's gamblers who cannot think maturely and ignore how gambling works and only think that gambling is only to get money whereas when gambling first appeared it was only for gambling and the loss of this essence is due to mindset of gamblers who cannot understand all of these.
sometimes I think that the increase in the number of gamblers around the world and also the increase in addiction is almost equivalent to the increase in the development of the gambling business today and why do people think that gambling to earn money while the way gambling works is provided to provide entertainment for gamblers with a budget that can afford to lose.

but I understand this condition because the increase in  gambling business also provides an increase in advertising and many influencers broadcast live showing the games they play and always show big wins and there are lots of videos circulating about big wins that encourage the minds of weak gamblers to think if they can win. big wins from gambling so they dont think about gambling to have fun but to earn money but what is very funny is that when asked by other people what the motivation is for gambling they say to look for fun and that is a lie.
Gambling's evolution and marketing methods are linked. These techniques generally glorify significant wins, minimizing gambling's risks. The transition from relaxation to a misleading prosperity fantasy is harmful.

Lets consider the gambler's attitude. Not only external effects, but also internal processing of these messages are the issue. Gamblers often have confirmation bias, remembering victories but forgetting losses. This misperception makes gambling seem like a good way to get money. Understanding that its a psychological trap can alter many lives.

How to proceed? I promote balanced gambling. Reeducating people that gambling should be pleasurable within one's budget is vital. Responsible gambling efforts and openness about odds and dangers might change opinions. Its about returning gambling to its original purpose - amusement, not wealth.

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January 03, 2024, 08:35:43 PM
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Gambling can be called entertainment, but only within certain limits. If a person loses his fortune, starts getting into debt, stops sleeping at night, becomes literally obsessed - what kind of entertainment is that? You could say that this is a really big problem already
A person who has all these conditions and is still saying that they are gambling for fun is lying and fooling everyone, including themselves, because you can't lose everything you have when you are gambling for fun or be so obsessed with it that you don't get to sleep at night.

When you gamble for fun, you have a budget for your gambling activities, and that budget comes from an income source that you have which means that you are earning more money than you are spending on your gambling activities, and if that isn't the case, you are not gambling for fun.

Only people who are disciplined enough to have self-control and patience to stay within their limits can enjoy gambling and have no remorse for their losses, and all others, spend most of their time thinking about their gambling losses and possible ways to recover them.

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January 03, 2024, 08:50:48 PM
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We have the same thoughts and upon observation, that's true that the essence of gambling is really missing, that it should give pleasure and fun at least, But in the case of what I see, what is currently happening is far from what it used to be, especially majority of gamblers only focused on winning.
well, this is the mistake of today's gamblers who cannot think maturely and ignore how gambling works and only think that gambling is only to get money whereas when gambling first appeared it was only for gambling and the loss of this essence is due to mindset of gamblers who cannot understand all of these.
sometimes I think that the increase in the number of gamblers around the world and also the increase in addiction is almost equivalent to the increase in the development of the gambling business today and why do people think that gambling to earn money while the way gambling works is provided to provide entertainment for gamblers with a budget that can afford to lose.

but I understand this condition because the increase in  gambling business also provides an increase in advertising and many influencers broadcast live showing the games they play and always show big wins and there are lots of videos circulating about big wins that encourage the minds of weak gamblers to think if they can win. big wins from gambling so they dont think about gambling to have fun but to earn money but what is very funny is that when asked by other people what the motivation is for gambling they say to look for fun and that is a lie.
Gambling's evolution and marketing methods are linked. These techniques generally glorify significant wins, minimizing gambling's risks. The transition from relaxation to a misleading prosperity fantasy is harmful.

Lets consider the gambler's attitude. Not only external effects, but also internal processing of these messages are the issue. Gamblers often have confirmation bias, remembering victories but forgetting losses. This misperception makes gambling seem like a good way to get money. Understanding that its a psychological trap can alter many lives.

How to proceed? I promote balanced gambling. Reeducating people that gambling should be pleasurable within one's budget is vital. Responsible gambling efforts and openness about odds and dangers might change opinions. Its about returning gambling to its original purpose - amusement, not wealth.
Balanced gambling is something that would really be that recommended but we do know that this isnt something that you could really be able to make yourself that able to follow with that principle but instead you would really be focusing or putting up yourself into those things which would pertain about on how to make money and would really be totally forgetting that gambling should really just that for fun.
This isnt already shocking or surprising for someone to commit out such action because we humans are naturally greedy.We would really be focusing on the things that we do saw that it could give us out
the potential on making money and wont really be matter on the risks involved through it.This is why i do agree on the thing that you've said that no matter how many losses that he would be able to encounter,
but with just few wins then all of those frustrations and anger would be wiped away or would be totally forgotten and here comes again the another cycle and it would continue further more.

Gambling should really be for fun but people do mainly be failing out on sticking into that principle specially that you do saw that money making or earning could be possible through this.
On the time that you would really be molding up this kind of impression, then this is where things turns out to be shit.
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Losing is losing, no matter how much the amount you can afford to lose and how much you have actually gambled, there's no difference.
Because it's still the same that you're going to lose if you are thinking you're fun to lose it.
But I wouldn't just accept that I'll be losing it, I'll fight for it until the last bet that I can make, well, that's the kind of fun many of us like, don't we?


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January 03, 2024, 09:34:45 PM
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Losing is losing, no matter how much the amount you can afford to lose and how much you have actually gambled, there's no difference.
Because it's still the same that you're going to lose if you are thinking you're fun to lose it.
But I wouldn't just accept that I'll be losing it, I'll fight for it until the last bet that I can make, well, that's the kind of fun many of us like, don't we?

You're right, that's the fun of gambling even if we lose we still fight, we still hope to come back and get the money back. Even if you lose and that loss is budgeted, maybe it doesn't hurt you that's why it's budgeted because you're ready to lose but you still fight. Gambling is entertaining, just avoid getting addicted to it.

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January 03, 2024, 09:41:51 PM
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Losing is losing, no matter how much the amount you can afford to lose and how much you have actually gambled, there's no difference.
Because it's still the same that you're going to lose if you are thinking you're fun to lose it.
But I wouldn't just accept that I'll be losing it, I'll fight for it until the last bet that I can make, well, that's the kind of fun many of us like, don't we?

You're right, that's the fun of gambling even if we lose we still fight, we still hope to come back and get the money back. Even if you lose and that loss is budgeted, maybe it doesn't hurt you that's why it's budgeted because you're ready to lose but you still fight. Gambling is entertaining, just avoid getting addicted to it.
Gambling should really be for fun
Gambling shouldnt really be make as a source of income
Gambling shoudlnt be stressful
Gambling shouldnt really make you that desperate
Gambling shoudnt really mess up your finances.

As long you do have that kind of control then you wont really be finding yourself on such trouble in speaking about gambling risks. As long you are really just that playing for fun
then you wont really be finding up yourself on any potential trouble. Then this should really be a must thing on the time that you do touch
up gambling.

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January 03, 2024, 09:50:23 PM
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Losing is losing, no matter how much the amount you can afford to lose and how much you have actually gambled, there's no difference.
Because it's still the same that you're going to lose if you are thinking you're fun to lose it.
But I wouldn't just accept that I'll be losing it, I'll fight for it until the last bet that I can make, well, that's the kind of fun many of us like, don't we?

Gambling is only for entertainment if you come with a lot of boundaries and also by not gambling too often then I would say the gambling you do is fun or something that can be quite entertaining when you have free time, but otherwise if you consider that this activity is entertainment but you yourself gamble too often or even excessively then obviously it doesn't make sense and maybe I would say that your goal is to win. On the other hand obviously as you said gambling is all about winning and losing and with that means if you get involved then you have to be prepared for both outcomes.

If you can't accept losing then that means I'd have to call you one of those gamblers who hopes to win and can't accept losing especially if you're fighting for something that basically has no guarantees and no certainty.

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January 03, 2024, 09:58:57 PM
 #176

I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

There's something romantic about trying something against the odds, but in terms of games with a mathematically known house edge, people just count on their luck most of the time.
For things like sports betting, where odds are judgmental, the appeal is to prove you know better than bookies and to take advantage of what you believe are misplaced odds. That's at least how it works for me.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

These 2 things are not mutually exclusive. Making money can be fun on its own.

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January 03, 2024, 10:16:33 PM
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Yes it will be a lie to us if we get addicted on gambling and make the gambling for only one purpose for earning and also get into the greediness. So it is natural that those public will not or can not take the gambling for the purpose of entertainment. So ultimately those who we take gambling as an purpose or desire of our entertainment are always make gambling for the fun and it is not lie for them.

The point is gamble is entertaining but what it involves is money which you either lose or gain. So the reality is how someone feels when they lose of course sad, and I have not seen someone who win that is not happy. Therefore, if a winner is happy because he won then that means he would have been unhappy because he lost and his life system would have totally changed at least at the moment and depending on how much he has lost. However, what I understand is that gambling is majorly a luck gaming.
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January 03, 2024, 10:33:18 PM
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The point is gamble is entertaining but what it involves is money which you either lose or gain. So the reality is how someone feels when they lose of course sad, and I have not seen someone who win that is not happy. Therefore, if a winner is happy because he won then that means he would have been unhappy because he lost (...)

People can be a bit more complex than win=happy; lose=unhappy.
From own experience, I bet more than I was willing to lose on a dice roll with a high chance of winning and won, or I made silly bluff in a poker game and won a hand, but I was not happy at all but rather disappointed at myself for I knew that was not a smart thing to do was a result of lack of self-discipline.


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January 03, 2024, 10:45:46 PM
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Those who have a lot of money and spend their money to go to the casino to get pleasure, is the way they rich people spend their money with friends to relieve stress or just joke.

But most of the poor people they throw money in the casino just to look for the possibility of multiplying money that is not expected by them, so most people think that the casino is claimed as a place to find pleasure is a hoax, but basically depending on what they use gambling to be like, has two opposite views and it is not wrong in my opinion depending on where you stand and think about gambling itself.

If you’ve got the money to comfortably fund your habit, it could be considered fun and entertaining but when you don’t have the money to comfortably do so, it suddenly doesn’t becomes fun or entertaining anymore. That’s just the way it is.
People that has money to fund their gambling activities would find it entertaining and when they play and either win or lose, it doesn’t affect them in the slightest as they’ve got money to comfortably afford to gamble. I would say it doesn’t fun when there isn’t much money to comfortably play.
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January 04, 2024, 06:00:08 AM
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I believe that for some people, gambling becomes a serious matter when they lose a significant amount of money, and it no longer remains a form of entertainment. However, there are still those who view gambling as a form of leisure, akin to playing cards with friends, right? Sometimes there's a bit of disagreement or discomfort, but ultimately, it brings a certain joy.

I think the key here is to control emotions and set a specific amount of money to engage in the activity. When playing with a small amount, it still provides a certain thrill, and if you lose, it's not devastating because the lost amount is manageable, and in return, you've had an enjoyable gaming experience. On the other hand, with a large sum, it can sometimes go beyond your control, making it hard to find joy, and the pressure is immense from the start. Therefore, in my opinion, gambling remains enjoyable for those who know their limits and can control their emotions.

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