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January 20, 2024, 08:51:18 PM
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This is still gonna take time and we're not even sure if it's going to be locked in by the end of this year. Despite announcing early that there is the possibility, I wouldn't jump on that hope thinking that it is really gonna be. If we are on the official track and it is already by the books, then that's where we should celebrate and wait for the match to actually happen.

At this point, I remembered Pacman's fight when his opponent was replaced by another fighter at the very last minute before the fight happens. And that's why with such a long time of wait and patience, there are too many things and adjustments that can happen and it can be applicable to this. Whilst Inoue is the most sought fighter and champion today by many boxers, it's such a pleasure to be given the time and opportunity to be locked in as his opponent whoever is going to be the challenger.

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January 21, 2024, 12:13:16 PM
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This is still gonna take time and we're not even sure if it's going to be locked in by the end of this year. Despite announcing early that there is the possibility, I wouldn't jump on that hope thinking that it is really gonna be. If we are on the official track and it is already by the books, then that's where we should celebrate and wait for the match to actually happen.

At this point, I remembered Pacman's fight when his opponent was replaced by another fighter at the very last minute before the fight happens. And that's why with such a long time of wait and patience, there are too many things and adjustments that can happen and it can be applicable to this. Whilst Inoue is the most sought fighter and champion today by many boxers, it's such a pleasure to be given the time and opportunity to be locked in as his opponent whoever is going to be the challenger.

The name of Casimero was only referenced by Inoue as part of his plans this year. Anyhow, it is just a plan, and no finality or agreement is made. Casimero was only referenced last in the list of boxers. Numerous boxers looked for a match with Inoue so everything could change in the plan.

As expectations are high for an Inoue match, Casimero can keep himself occupied and work on his ratings. He can match himself to boxers who are rated highly. Casimero can challenge Akhmadaliev and Goodman if Inoue and Nery already have a deal.

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January 21, 2024, 01:31:08 PM
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This is still gonna take time and we're not even sure if it's going to be locked in by the end of this year. Despite announcing early that there is the possibility, I wouldn't jump on that hope thinking that it is really gonna be. If we are on the official track and it is already by the books, then that's where we should celebrate and wait for the match to actually happen.

At this point, I remembered Pacman's fight when his opponent was replaced by another fighter at the very last minute before the fight happens. And that's why with such a long time of wait and patience, there are too many things and adjustments that can happen and it can be applicable to this. Whilst Inoue is the most sought fighter and champion today by many boxers, it's such a pleasure to be given the time and opportunity to be locked in as his opponent whoever is going to be the challenger.

The name of Casimero was only referenced by Inoue as part of his plans this year. Anyhow, it is just a plan, and no finality or agreement is made. Casimero was only referenced last in the list of boxers. Numerous boxers looked for a match with Inoue so everything could change in the plan.

As expectations are high for an Inoue match, Casimero can keep himself occupied and work on his ratings. He can match himself to boxers who are rated highly. Casimero can challenge Akhmadaliev and Goodman if Inoue and Nery already have a deal.

Casimero keeps challenging Inoue because he felt the fight was due, it was the "unfinished business" as these two were suppose to before the pandemic, and although the pandemic was over, the postponed fight turned out to be a cancelled fight, which I understand why Casimero is still chasing Inoue.

As long Casimero is still active, we should not be surprise to hear the name Inoue from him as he'll continue to trash talk Inoue until the latter will finally grant his challenge.

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January 21, 2024, 02:45:45 PM
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This is still gonna take time and we're not even sure if it's going to be locked in by the end of this year. Despite announcing early that there is the possibility, I wouldn't jump on that hope thinking that it is really gonna be. If we are on the official track and it is already by the books, then that's where we should celebrate and wait for the match to actually happen.

At this point, I remembered Pacman's fight when his opponent was replaced by another fighter at the very last minute before the fight happens. And that's why with such a long time of wait and patience, there are too many things and adjustments that can happen and it can be applicable to this. Whilst Inoue is the most sought fighter and champion today by many boxers, it's such a pleasure to be given the time and opportunity to be locked in as his opponent whoever is going to be the challenger.

The name of Casimero was only referenced by Inoue as part of his plans this year. Anyhow, it is just a plan, and no finality or agreement is made. Casimero was only referenced last in the list of boxers. Numerous boxers looked for a match with Inoue so everything could change in the plan.

As expectations are high for an Inoue match, Casimero can keep himself occupied and work on his ratings. He can match himself to boxers who are rated highly. Casimero can challenge Akhmadaliev and Goodman if Inoue and Nery already have a deal.

Casimero keeps challenging Inoue because he felt the fight was due, it was the "unfinished business" as these two were suppose to before the pandemic, and although the pandemic was over, the postponed fight turned out to be a cancelled fight, which I understand why Casimero is still chasing Inoue.

As long Casimero is still active, we should not be surprise to hear the name Inoue from him as he'll continue to trash talk Inoue until the latter will finally grant his challenge.

Inoue is not up for trashtalk. This will only make him decline Casimero as a means to deny him a big fight. Casimero is the one who needed the big fight and Inoue can just go on and fight someone else or retire early.

As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.


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January 21, 2024, 03:31:01 PM
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Inoue is not up for trashtalk. This will only make him decline Casimero as a means to deny him a big fight. Casimero is the one who needed the big fight and Inoue can just go on and fight someone else or retire early.

As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.


Even if Inoue is not a trash-talker there will be speculation on what would have been if they fought, and this is what Inoue's promoters are looking for, they don't want people to have an idea that Casimero is that good, and he is challenging Inoue and he did not give him a chance, this is a fight that can sell one trash talker who wants to prove that he can beat Inoue, and Inoue who's been beating decisively every opponent that comes along.
Inoue should not leave the Super Bantamweight without giving  Casimero a chance to prove that he deserves a chance or people will cast doubt and speculate and what could have been.

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January 21, 2024, 04:00:00 PM
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As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.


This is why I'm not too fond of Arum being Inoue's promoter he likes to cherry pick fight for fighters he managed like what happened to Crawford he badly wants Spence but Arum is overprotective of Crawford and he doesn't believe that he could beat Spence, and if Spence beat Crawford he will lose his cash cow, the fight only push through when Bud was out of Arum's promotion.
The featherweight is loaded with a lot of superstars who can challenge him and give him a good fight, it will be interesting how he will pair with Navarette and if can he take his power in the Super featherweight just like Pacquiao did.
The featherweight is Inoue's real entry to greatness because this is where people will be interested to see if he has what it takes to be a superstar in that division.

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January 21, 2024, 04:13:46 PM
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As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.


This is why I'm not too fond of Arum being Inoue's promoter he likes to cherry pick fight for fighters he managed like what happened to Crawford he badly wants Spence but Arum is overprotective of Crawford and he doesn't believe that he could beat Spence

The fight happens but they wanna make sure they can make money. Does Casimero going back to MP promotion make the fight possible?

Or will they have to wait up to 5-6 years til Casim is 40 yo before giving him the heads up? It's all their game when they want to make money. If they can't make money from the Casim vs Inoue fight because it's risky, then it's just going to be the waiting game til Casim isn't in his prime.


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January 21, 2024, 06:21:24 PM
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This is still gonna take time and we're not even sure if it's going to be locked in by the end of this year. Despite announcing early that there is the possibility, I wouldn't jump on that hope thinking that it is really gonna be. If we are on the official track and it is already by the books, then that's where we should celebrate and wait for the match to actually happen.

At this point, I remembered Pacman's fight when his opponent was replaced by another fighter at the very last minute before the fight happens. And that's why with such a long time of wait and patience, there are too many things and adjustments that can happen and it can be applicable to this. Whilst Inoue is the most sought fighter and champion today by many boxers, it's such a pleasure to be given the time and opportunity to be locked in as his opponent whoever is going to be the challenger.

The name of Casimero was only referenced by Inoue as part of his plans this year. Anyhow, it is just a plan, and no finality or agreement is made. Casimero was only referenced last in the list of boxers. Numerous boxers looked for a match with Inoue so everything could change in the plan.
Yes, he was mentioned and that's just a "possible" match as said. And that's why the hopes are there and preparation might be quick if it's going to be official because Inoue has a lot of line up for his match for this year. Still gonna depend on the decision and approval of Inoue's camp if they're going to give him a go signal to fight the monster but if not, Casimero just have to wait further.

As expectations are high for an Inoue match, Casimero can keep himself occupied and work on his ratings. He can match himself to boxers who are rated highly. Casimero can challenge Akhmadaliev and Goodman if Inoue and Nery already have a deal.
Yeah, he should just stop talking about Inoue and don't think of it as the only match that he can do for this year. Just as what Inoue is doing, he's going to box with other challengers and that's what he has to do and win some matches so that he'll be the first choice if he's ever gonna win those matches that he'll take.

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January 22, 2024, 01:42:08 AM
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Inoue most likely won't give too much attention to Casimero anymore. Casimero has not proven anything so that he will get that opportunity to face Inoue. Had Casimero not wasted all those opportunities in the past and faced and powerfully defeated those opponents, he could have given that chance to fight Inoue.
In that case Casimero does not need to ask Inoue to give him a chance, instead, he will just focus on his fights and make an impressive win so he'll get his ranking improved. If Inoue will stay, he could be a mandatory challenger where Inoue won't need to decide anymore if he'll fight him or not since if he will not he'll get stripped with his belt, it would be okay if he'll move up since there's nothing to prove in the super bantanweight division anymore.

But he missed all of those and for very shallow reasons such as failing to make weight, violating guidelines, making trouble against the other party. He probably doesn't deserve Inoue as an opponent.
For now yeah.

Yes, I agree. I think the only way for Casimero to one day be given a chance to fight against Inoue is to become a worthy opponent. And there's no other way for him to reach that but by defeating everybody else until such a point when he will become Inoue's mandatory challenger. Other than this, Casimero can only call Inoue out and wish he's given the attention.

But time and age are not in Casimero's favor. He'll be 35 soon. And while Inoue is also entering the 30's, it is obvious that his performance doesn't look like he is about to soften a bit, unlike Casimero who looks a lot weaker than before.
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January 23, 2024, 04:59:10 PM
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As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.


This is why I'm not too fond of Arum being Inoue's promoter he likes to cherry pick fight for fighters he managed like what happened to Crawford he badly wants Spence but Arum is overprotective of Crawford and he doesn't believe that he could beat Spence

The fight happens but they wanna make sure they can make money. Does Casimero going back to MP promotion make the fight possible?

Or will they have to wait up to 5-6 years til Casim is 40 yo before giving him the heads up? It's all their game when they want to make money. If they can't make money from the Casim vs Inoue fight because it's risky, then it's just going to be the waiting game til Casim isn't in his prime.


There is no news that he will go back to MP Promotions Casimero doesn't want to let go of his brother as his trainer even if his brother is getting a lot of negative feedback about the way he manages Casimero, and Casimero is too proud and has a lot pride he wants the MP Promotions to beg him to return, but I don't think the promotions will do that, its Casimero who needs MP promotions.

If the fight will not push this year, Casimero better forgets the Inoue fight, it's his chance to make a lot of money he's the one who blew his chance, while Inoue is doing great on his path to greatness.


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January 27, 2024, 02:11:31 PM
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There is no news that he will go back to MP Promotions Casimero doesn't want to let go of his brother as his trainer even if his brother is getting a lot of negative feedback about the way he manages Casimero, and Casimero is too proud and has a lot pride he wants the MP Promotions to beg him to return, but I don't think the promotions will do that, its Casimero who needs MP promotions.
We can't force him to go back to MP promotion, he is a man with his pride, he'll stand his decision. It's just that dissapointing that we aren't seen him winning impressively on his prior matches despite his opponent aren't really that strong, and the last time he fougtht, he seemed gas out, and that's why people doesn't believe anymore that he could beat Inoue with his kind of conditioning.

It's not too late for him, have one fight that he can beat his opponent vio KO and no contorversy, then his ranking might shoot up.

If the fight will not push this year, Casimero better forgets the Inoue fight, it's his chance to make a lot of money he's the one who blew his chance, while Inoue is doing great on his path to greatness.


There's still plenty of time, we should not loss hope as Casimero is not losing his. However, if Inoue will opt to move, then this possible fight ain't happening  soon.

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January 27, 2024, 05:38:23 PM
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As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.


This is why I'm not too fond of Arum being Inoue's promoter he likes to cherry pick fight for fighters he managed like what happened to Crawford he badly wants Spence but Arum is overprotective of Crawford and he doesn't believe that he could beat Spence

The fight happens but they wanna make sure they can make money. Does Casimero going back to MP promotion make the fight possible?

Or will they have to wait up to 5-6 years til Casim is 40 yo before giving him the heads up? It's all their game when they want to make money. If they can't make money from the Casim vs Inoue fight because it's risky, then it's just going to be the waiting game til Casim isn't in his prime.


There is no news that he will go back to MP Promotions Casimero doesn't want to let go of his brother as his trainer even if his brother is getting a lot of negative feedback about the way he manages Casimero, and Casimero is too proud and has a lot pride he wants the MP Promotions to beg him to return, but I don't think the promotions will do that, its Casimero who needs MP promotions.

If the fight will not push this year, Casimero better forgets the Inoue fight, it's his chance to make a lot of money he's the one who blew his chance, while Inoue is doing great on his path to greatness.

Right, we will not find any news of him going back to MP for sure, as he is already managed by a Japanese promoter. Of course, he will not let go of his brother as his trainer and that he is very proud of himself, as he is known to be that even inside the ring.

I think in this coming year, if he hasn't had his chance then he should look for any opponents or at least forget Inoue for the meantime. He is already great himself and being proud to be a former champion from the Philippines. Maybe if he forget about Inoue, his career will take a turn for good and who knows, and he become a mandatory champion for any of the belt that Inoue has.

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January 29, 2024, 11:43:52 AM
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Right, we will not find any news of him going back to MP for sure, as he is already managed by a Japanese promoter. Of course, he will not let go of his brother as his trainer and that he is very proud of himself, as he is known to be that even inside the ring.

I think in this coming year, if he hasn't had his chance then he should look for any opponents or at least forget Inoue for the meantime. He is already great himself and being proud to be a former champion from the Philippines. Maybe if he forget about Inoue, his career will take a turn for good and who knows, and he become a mandatory champion for any of the belt that Inoue has.

This could not happen anytime soon as Inoue has some other business to take care of. However, there are rumors that Casimero could fight Tapales because these two has been trash talking each other and they have created some hype on the fight. It's not a championship fight since Tapales isn't a champion anymore, but this is good for the ranking of Casimero to increase if ever he wins the fight. Though this is just a rumor, but I believe this is a good fight that should happen soon.

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January 29, 2024, 11:54:02 AM
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Right, we will not find any news of him going back to MP for sure, as he is already managed by a Japanese promoter. Of course, he will not let go of his brother as his trainer and that he is very proud of himself, as he is known to be that even inside the ring.

I think in this coming year, if he hasn't had his chance then he should look for any opponents or at least forget Inoue for the meantime. He is already great himself and being proud to be a former champion from the Philippines. Maybe if he forget about Inoue, his career will take a turn for good and who knows, and he become a mandatory champion for any of the belt that Inoue has.

This could not happen anytime soon as Inoue has some other business to take care of. However, there are rumors that Casimero could fight Tapales because these two has been trash talking each other and they have created some hype on the fight. It's not a championship fight since Tapales isn't a champion anymore, but this is good for the ranking of Casimero to increase if ever he wins the fight. Though this is just a rumor, but I believe this is a good fight that should happen soon.

It will not really happen anytime soon as Inoue have his own target fights and Casimero's name is not on radar also they are so clear regarding that they don't have any interest to fight Casimero anymore since they are not impressed with his performance or maybe they can't get anything for that fight.

Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

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January 29, 2024, 11:59:31 AM
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Right, we will not find any news of him going back to MP for sure, as he is already managed by a Japanese promoter. Of course, he will not let go of his brother as his trainer and that he is very proud of himself, as he is known to be that even inside the ring.

I think in this coming year, if he hasn't had his chance then he should look for any opponents or at least forget Inoue for the meantime. He is already great himself and being proud to be a former champion from the Philippines. Maybe if he forget about Inoue, his career will take a turn for good and who knows, and he become a mandatory champion for any of the belt that Inoue has.

This could not happen anytime soon as Inoue has some other business to take care of. However, there are rumors that Casimero could fight Tapales because these two has been trash talking each other and they have created some hype on the fight. It's not a championship fight since Tapales isn't a champion anymore, but this is good for the ranking of Casimero to increase if ever he wins the fight. Though this is just a rumor, but I believe this is a good fight that should happen soon.

It will not really happen anytime soon as Inoue have his own target fights and Casimero's name is not on radar also they are so clear regarding that they don't have any interest to fight Casimero anymore since they are not impressed with his performance or maybe they can't get anything for that fight.

Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.
Are those rumors fake? Getting in line with the current 3 fighters that would really be on this year on which Nery is on the first list. I dont know if Casimero fight would push through but this one which tons of fans is really that anticipating for this fight.If we do speak about Casimero's fighting style and capacity then it isnt something that might be putting up Inoue to be interested on which we know that there arent some finalization about the list then we wont know if those fighters been mentioned are the ones to be followed for this particular year. If ever it is finalized then Casimero is already on the line but i highly
doubt that he would really be able to win against Inoue on which i could really say that its a bit far off when it comes ot Boxing IQ,technicalities and stamina i should say in compared to Casimero
but well this is just my own views though.

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January 29, 2024, 12:16:00 PM
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Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.

If Tapales will win, then the speculation about Inoue avoiding Casimero would become invalid.

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January 29, 2024, 12:40:36 PM
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Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.


Then I guess we should also create a Casimero vs Tapales speculation thread, since this fight( Inoue vs Casimero ) is unlikely to happen now that Inoue is fighting Nery. The only chance Casimero could fight Inoue is if he is next in line to Nery, but based on the ranking he isn't, and since Inoue mostly fights twice a year only, then Casimero's fight is not gonna happen this year.


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If Tapales will win, then the speculation about Inoue avoiding Casimero would become invalid.

There is no more discussion about Inoue vs Casimero if Tapales wins as that would say that Casimero has past his prime and he is not ready for a monster Inoue. Maybe that time Casimero will stop trash talking or criticizing Inoue because he know in himself that he isn't on the level of the monster.

Hopefully positive things will happen for Casimero and Inoue, so this fight will happen, maybe not this year, but could be next year.

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January 30, 2024, 10:49:05 AM
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There is no more discussion about Inoue vs Casimero if Tapales wins as that would say that Casimero has past his prime and he is not ready for a monster Inoue. Maybe that time Casimero will stop trash talking or criticizing Inoue because he know in himself that he isn't on the level of the monster.

Hopefully positive things will happen for Casimero and Inoue, so this fight will happen, maybe not this year, but could be next year.

That's not gonna happen because Casimero will not allow to lose against Tapales whom we all saw that his power is not enough to KO an opponent. Casimero is very confident now, and we witness in his previous fights that he really has power, sometimes he was just reckless that his fight would result to no contest. I hope this rumor will come into reality as we haven't seen Casimero fight yet this year, maybe it's too early but first quarter would be fine so Casimero can still prepare for another fight if it's not gonna be Inoue next.

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February 02, 2024, 07:52:31 PM
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There is no more discussion about Inoue vs Casimero if Tapales wins as that would say that Casimero has past his prime and he is not ready for a monster Inoue. Maybe that time Casimero will stop trash talking or criticizing Inoue because he know in himself that he isn't on the level of the monster.

Hopefully positive things will happen for Casimero and Inoue, so this fight will happen, maybe not this year, but could be next year.

That's not gonna happen because Casimero will not allow to lose against Tapales whom we all saw that his power is not enough to KO an opponent. Casimero is very confident now, and we witness in his previous fights that he really has power, sometimes he was just reckless that his fight would result to no contest. I hope this rumor will come into reality as we haven't seen Casimero fight yet this year, maybe it's too early but first quarter would be fine so Casimero can still prepare for another fight if it's not gonna be Inoue next.
Past his prime? I dont think that even into his Prime form or days it wont really be that still enough on beating up Inoue. Sorry to say but this dude is really just that only good for trashtalks.

Yes, he might have the power but he doesnt have the stamina and technicality on how he fights which is way far if we do compared out into Inoue's.
So if there are no talks about possible fight about Casimero against Inoue. Then how about those 3 boxers that Inoue will fight for this year?
Are those informations that not finalized? If it is, then it is really just that sad for Casimero fans out there.

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February 03, 2024, 02:10:58 AM
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Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.
I don't know where Casimero or how he thinks that Tapales is not competing with Inoue when they have the fight. Obviously, Tapales is trying his best, he even has some good rounds to boot and hit Inoue. But Naoya chin is very strong that not even he hits him solidly, Inoue is just eating it. So it's not right for Casimero to criticized his fellow countryman just because he lost to Inoue. And with that, he could also be criticized with the way he is fighting at 122 lbs, two fights and we are not that impressive and it could be the reason why he may not get his fight with Inoue. Unless he wins impressively next, but still it will be Nery that will fight Inoue.

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