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January 11, 2024, 12:17:36 PM
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All u need to know about "expert" is what markets he's betting on
if he's sharing bets from most popular markets like Premier League NBA ATP etc then there is basically 100% chance he's not making ANY profit

Actual experts do exists tho, it's just not easy not find them

They may not be experts at all but they are enough to give bettors an idea like the ones on youtube who compares skills of athletes.

Normally these so called experts are once an athlete too. Lets say Bisping or Chael Sonnen who shares their opinion who will might likely win in a match.

Those kind of people who shared their honest overview might be useful for bettors who loves to find good game or fight that might be profitable to bet, unlike with so-called experts who already concluding the game, these kind of people are just sharing ideas, they will not assure anything but they will give you past stats that might help when deciding with your bets.

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January 11, 2024, 01:42:27 PM
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All u need to know about "expert" is what markets he's betting on
if he's sharing bets from most popular markets like Premier League NBA ATP etc then there is basically 100% chance he's not making ANY profit

Actual experts do exists tho, it's just not easy not find them
I agree with the sentences I have outlined in bold because they don't want to be known by many people. Otherwise, people would ask them for predictions and more people would ask for them once they found out if the expert's predictions were accurate. This will not make the expert comfortable because most people will invade his privacy so that he cannot do anything else. They would like to hide themselves from other people, and they will pretend that they don't know anything about betting. Experts like this can be called experts because they don't brag about their abilities in front of many people just because they want to get a sensation.

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January 11, 2024, 03:13:01 PM
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They may not be experts at all but they are enough to give bettors an idea like the ones on youtube who compares skills of athletes.

Normally these so called experts are once an athlete too. Lets say Bisping or Chael Sonnen who shares their opinion who will might likely win in a match.
It not like it appropriate to be called an expert, they have full knowledge of all the information needed and of course this will not guarantee accurately that what is conveyed can actually happen.
Everything is based on knowledge and experience, while accurate predictions can never be given by anyone, especially for sports betting, I will be skeptical of those who say that they have accurate predictions.
No matter how good someone is at sports betting, when giving predictions, there is still uncertainty and of course we need consideration of our own predictions to be able to truly bet with full confidence in the bets made.
This will be much better than just completely relying on predictions given by other people.

If the so-called expert is former athlete then he can only master one or two types of sport, not all of them and are we going to trust people like this, when we bet on many sports?
For example, football, is there football player who openly states that he can give predictions?

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January 13, 2024, 04:59:19 AM
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All u need to know about "expert" is what markets he's betting on
if he's sharing bets from most popular markets like Premier League NBA ATP etc then there is basically 100% chance he's not making ANY profit

Actual experts do exists tho, it's just not easy not find them

An expert gambler can at most give you the actual odds that you are going to have.

The casinos give you the odds, so they of course know what teams are good/bad and they also add a buffer so that they always end up winning.

It doesn't matter if there is an expert that knows everything about a team, the outcome is still random.

Even the best teams can lose against the worst teams.

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January 15, 2024, 03:14:18 PM
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Who could we comfortably classify as a predictions expert? Most likely someone that has had a good number of his predictions come true.
I concur @Fredomago. Basically there is no point of time any gambler is worthy to  boost that he is an gambling expert predictional as long the equations and formula of winning on the gambles are undefinable.
But then, there could be little benefits of doubt to a certain gambler whom has got viral winnings in multiple times even though it is learnt that this gambler has lost at most of his stakes.











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January 15, 2024, 03:31:21 PM
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I agree with the sentences I have outlined in bold because they don't want to be known by many people. Otherwise, people would ask them for predictions and more people would ask for them once they found out if the expert's predictions were accurate. This will not make the expert comfortable because most people will invade his privacy so that he cannot do anything else. They would like to hide themselves from other people, and they will pretend that they don't know anything about betting. Experts like this can be called experts because they don't brag about their abilities in front of many people just because they want to get a sensation.

Experts rarely share their strategies to people, as they are busier with figuring out those strategies than making money. A player whose goal is to make money may not be able to invest the time experts utilize in maintaining a strategy. That's why it'll be difficult to get an expert's prediction. They do not believe it can work for somebody else, even if they shared the technique, s/he won't understand or win from it. Gamblers are not encouraged to try people's strategies. It needs to be mastered and accepted by the gambler, that he'll be able to retain his techniques without getting fed up. People who claim this, being an expert, gamble for money, and needs extra sources of income. If a real expert opens up himself to the society, people will keep asking him questions. Definitely some predictions of the expert won't work. Then people can begin to divorce the expert.   

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January 15, 2024, 03:51:06 PM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.
And didn’t you follow what he asked you and your friends to do? Did you stake high? It sounds funny to me that instead of the expert gambler asking you to stake high and you are going to give him some percentage after winning, why is it that the expert gambler can’t make use of his prediction? If the gambling expert is sure about the prediction, then the gambling expert should use his money to place the bet and win big. It's obvious that the gambling expert is just trying to use you and your friend, you have to be very careful. You should simply ask him to use his money to place the bet.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?
I never believed in expert predictions. Most of the so-called experts are just scammers trying to take from people, they are not real. If you end up following their predictions, they have nothing to lose, you are the one that’s going to lose because you are the one that’s going to use your money to place the bet. We don’t have to depend on anyone when making predictions on gambling, always do it yourself.

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January 15, 2024, 04:02:32 PM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?


Experts, pundits and analyst based their prediction on past records and present form of the team their a
prediction is never a  guarantee of 100% sure game, I used to read Lawro predictions a former and  renowned bbcsport Analyst despite his expertise in that field yet he is not 100% accurate same with the present bbcsport Analyst Sutton I don't rely on their pick to place a bet rather I combined their analysis with other Analyst predictions and make selections, though losses are inevitable in gambling however betting with the amount of money you can afford to lose would reduce the risk while two to three consecutive wins would cover all the losses with  extra profit.

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All u need to know about "expert" is what markets he's betting on
if he's sharing bets from most popular markets like Premier League NBA ATP etc then there is basically 100% chance he's not making ANY profit

Actual experts do exists tho, it's just not easy not find them
That is a nice observation, mainstream betting markets are not only incredibly popular, they are also the markets the casinos have the most data, and from which they can calculate the most accurate odds.

So in order to find an edge an expert gambler needs to look outside those markets and bet on obscure markets that almost no one has heard about, however it is precisely because of such behavior that casinos can realize that one of their clients is a professional and eventually limit their account.
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~snip~
Experts, pundits and analyst based their prediction on past records and present form of the team their a
prediction is never a  guarantee of 100% sure game, I used to read Lawro predictions a former and  renowned bbcsport Analyst despite his expertise in that field yet he is not 100% accurate same with the present bbcsport Analyst Sutton I don't rely on their pick to place a bet rather I combined their analysis with other Analyst predictions and make selections, though losses are inevitable in gambling however betting with the amount of money you can afford to lose would reduce the risk while two to three consecutive wins would cover all the losses with  extra profit.

Well, even predictions made by experts using various methods and various knowledge of information regarding the team that will be bet on cannot be truly 100% accurate and guarantee victory, but they only predict according to what they know to increase confidence and opportunities in betting.
No prediction can be truly 100%, in fact I sure that technology such as AI which can provide a lot of information and is used to produce predictions will never be able to guarantee victory.
Winning results in betting, especially sports, really depend on the players in the team and of course no one can know for sure whether they will win or not because match results can always change.
Predictions are still just guesses and we know that guesses are still very risky for errors, from this it should be able to provide an understanding that it will be more satisfying if we bet with the abilities we have or, more precisely, don't rely too much on other people predictions.

I agree with you that we don't really need to use predictions made by other people, even if they are professionals or experts, but we should be able to use other people predictions as reference or consideration for some of the predictions we have.
We can study it and choose whether any of these predictions have chance of winning.
Moreover, in sports betting it is not about an expert making predictions that can win the bet but how we as gamblers can minimize losses and optimize opportunities to win, we gamble with our own money so we must always be right in making betting decisions.

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There are things we forget, that in fact there is no prediction that truly guarantees 100% accuracy. if there is an expert who shares the results of his predictions, it does not mean that what he predicts will provide a guarantee of winning in his bet. an expert, has knowledge in his field with everything he knows. then, he tries to research according to the team that will compete, tries to examine various aspects, whether it is team depth, patterns, strategies, opportunities, and all other variables related to what he is good at. usually experts will refer to various points of view in their analysis, then they try to conclude from the results they have analyzed. looking for appropriate odds, or favoring one of the teams that is predicted to win a match. and don't forget, predictions are like weather forecasts. this does not mean that the signs that the expert saw beforehand, or calculated using his method, will produce an accurate prediction. in football, the coach can change strategies according to the team's needs, as well as patterns, strategies and player substitutions. which means, the results of previous expert analysis may change. anyway, if someone has been given the title "EXPERT", it means that he really understands and masters something in his field. actually, we can also review it from various aspects, but I think what I have said is enough. the point is, we can refer to an expert's predictions, but we can't just follow his instructions or betting choices. we can even look for other references, or try to predict it ourselves based on the knowledge and insight we have. btw, for me researching and analyzing my own results is an art in betting for me.

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Who could we comfortably classify as a predictions expert? Most likely someone that has had a good number of his predictions come true.
I concur @Fredomago. Basically there is no point of time any gambler is worthy to  boost that he is an gambling expert predictional as long the equations and formula of winning on the gambles are undefinable.
But then, there could be little benefits of doubt to a certain gambler whom has got viral winnings in multiple times even though it is learnt that this gambler has lost at most of his stakes.


Precisely, the numbers of winning streak can take as basis but only if he also shared the numbers of those losing bets, percentages of winnings can be take as basis when following people who are sharing their predictions, as mentioned, it's gambling and winning accurately is undifinable as it is. If you can just win all the way it will break the purpose of gambling and probably house or sports bookies will never allow you to use the platforms.

There's always a place for doing your research and always those good guidance in terms of finding the right knowledge but the fact that you are inside gambling, expect that there's no way someone can claim a sure bets, it's always a risk and it's up to you if you can handle that amount of risk that you'll going to take.

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There are things we forget, that in fact there is no prediction that truly guarantees 100% accuracy. if there is an expert who shares the results of his predictions, it does not mean that what he predicts will provide a guarantee of winning in his bet. an expert, has knowledge in his field with everything he knows. then, he tries to research according to the team that will compete, tries to examine various aspects, whether it is team depth, patterns, strategies, opportunities, and all other variables related to what he is good at. usually experts will refer to various points of view in their analysis, then they try to conclude from the results they have analyzed. looking for appropriate odds, or favoring one of the teams that is predicted to win a match. and don't forget, predictions are like weather forecasts. this does not mean that the signs that the expert saw beforehand, or calculated using his method, will produce an accurate prediction. in football, the coach can change strategies according to the team's needs, as well as patterns, strategies and player substitutions. which means, the results of previous expert analysis may change. anyway, if someone has been given the title "EXPERT", it means that he really understands and masters something in his field. actually, we can also review it from various aspects, but I think what I have said is enough. the point is, we can refer to an expert's predictions, but we can't just follow his instructions or betting choices. we can even look for other references, or try to predict it ourselves based on the knowledge and insight we have. btw, for me researching and analyzing my own results is an art in betting for me.



Very much agree with this.

Professional prediction doesn't necessarily mean a guaranteed win. Indeed, it's the same way as having a weather forecaster. They can only show what is the possible outcome, but they cannot really vouch that it will happen 100% sure. They are just basing the result to the history, record, and to the entire data available to them. Then, they make an analysis of what could possibly be the turn of the games. They get the odds not just by merely guessing, but in checking the information they have to arrive at a prediction that is based on something.
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All u need to know about "expert" is what markets he's betting on
if he's sharing bets from most popular markets like Premier League NBA ATP etc then there is basically 100% chance he's not making ANY profit

Actual experts do exists tho, it's just not easy not find them

They may not be experts at all but they are enough to give bettors an idea like the ones on youtube who compares skills of athletes.

Normally these so called experts are once an athlete too. Lets say Bisping or Chael Sonnen who shares their opinion who will might likely win in a match.
That's very different from the way I see this so called experts and I believe most person that offer such services aren't actually former sport men but people that just claim they are good when it comes getting access to some research that might make their prediction very different from yours which to some extent some of them are actually legit but over here and I believe the world at large scammers have taken over everything and they even poss as expert offering sure prediction by editing previous wins and manipulating the system making people fall from their tricks and some even charge a specific amount of money for such fake services.
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Experts, pundits and analyst based their prediction on past records and present form of the team their a
prediction is never a  guarantee of 100% sure game, I used to read Lawro predictions a former and  renowned bbcsport Analyst despite his expertise in that field yet he is not 100% accurate same with the present bbcsport Analyst Sutton I don't rely on their pick to place a bet rather I combined their analysis with other Analyst predictions and make selections, though losses are inevitable in gambling however betting with the amount of money you can afford to lose would reduce the risk while two to three consecutive wins would cover all the losses with  extra profit.


History plays a vital role in the current result of any football game. But it doesn't determine the winner of the game. When two teams are in the pitch, lots of things changes. And the players need to adjust based on the strategies of their opponent, if it's not what they expected. A team can change its formation in pitch, it's not against the rule of football. They can decide to go all attack, thereby destabilizing the formation and tactics of their opponent, and leaving them to defend. So, these change of tactics and strategies, the players and coaches can't predict. It only begins to occur once the game starts. That's why the first half game is always hard to predict. People have trust that they'll be goals during the second half of the game. Because the first half can't be predicted, experts can't help it.

In a situation where a big team is scored by a small team during the first half, and the second half the smaller team decides to maintain all defense the big team may lose out in the game. The mistake of hoping on the big team to win always isn't proper, that doesn't determine good prediction. Sports is predictable, and sometimes these experts would be correct. Yet in gambling is not meant to be same for everybody who predicts games. Sometimes we lose or win. Trusting on the prediction of expert is at the risk of the gambler. And he's to take every responsibility. Whether win or lose. When a gambler begins to feel less of himself and relies on the ideas of an expert, he may not be able to control his emotions and make good prediction, when needed.


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January 16, 2024, 12:25:41 PM
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There are things we forget, that in fact there is no prediction that truly guarantees 100% accuracy. if there is an expert who shares the results of his predictions, it does not mean that what he predicts will provide a guarantee of winning in his bet. an expert, has knowledge in his field with everything he knows. then, he tries to research according to the team that will compete, tries to examine various aspects, whether it is team depth, patterns, strategies, opportunities, and all other variables related to what he is good at. usually experts will refer to various points of view in their analysis, then they try to conclude from the results they have analyzed. looking for appropriate odds, or favoring one of the teams that is predicted to win a match. and don't forget, predictions are like weather forecasts. this does not mean that the signs that the expert saw beforehand, or calculated using his method, will produce an accurate prediction. in football, the coach can change strategies according to the team's needs, as well as patterns, strategies and player substitutions. which means, the results of previous expert analysis may change. anyway, if someone has been given the title "EXPERT", it means that he really understands and masters something in his field. actually, we can also review it from various aspects, but I think what I have said is enough. the point is, we can refer to an expert's predictions, but we can't just follow his instructions or betting choices. we can even look for other references, or try to predict it ourselves based on the knowledge and insight we have. btw, for me researching and analyzing my own results is an art in betting for me.



Very much agree with this.

Professional prediction doesn't necessarily mean a guaranteed win. Indeed, it's the same way as having a weather forecaster. They can only show what is the possible outcome, but they cannot really vouch that it will happen 100% sure. They are just basing the result to the history, record, and to the entire data available to them. Then, they make an analysis of what could possibly be the turn of the games. They get the odds not just by merely guessing, but in checking the information they have to arrive at a prediction that is based on something.
this is why its called predicting mate , and I believe that professionalism does not need to give predictions instead we have to learn how to estimate and predict on our own .
yeah they might be good at that but there is no certainties in gambling world because what they expect now might go sideways and brings them losing than winning.
with this we are need to believe that gambling is gamble , we can win and we can lose together so accept what is your destiny and enjoy each moment while you have the chance to savor it.

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January 16, 2024, 12:26:27 PM
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Experts rarely share their strategies to people, as they are busier with figuring out those strategies than making money. A player whose goal is to make money may not be able to invest the time experts utilize in maintaining a strategy. That's why it'll be difficult to get an expert's prediction. They do not believe it can work for somebody else, even if they shared the technique, s/he won't understand or win from it. Gamblers are not encouraged to try people's strategies. It needs to be mastered and accepted by the gambler, that he'll be able to retain his techniques without getting fed up. People who claim this, being an expert, gamble for money, and needs extra sources of income. If a real expert opens up himself to the society, people will keep asking him questions. Definitely some predictions of the expert won't work. Then people can begin to divorce the expert.   
Those who depend on an expert must be able to find someone who can analyze well because, so far, it is very rare to get predictions from an expert. Those who claim to be experts always say that their predictions are accurate, even though that will not always happen. A true expert will not openly say that he is an expert, but he will only tell it to people who know him. These experts do not want to be relied on by people who expect their predictions. They can also gamble alone without anyone following their predictions because they really gamble responsibly. People who rely on someone who claims to be an expert should be able to think that the predictions of this person who claims to be an expert will not always be correct. They must learn to analyze the match themselves and not rely on an expert. By learning on his own from many sources, he can improve his analytical skills and place bets without having to wait for predictions from an expert.

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January 16, 2024, 12:38:53 PM
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Experts, pundits and analyst based their prediction on past records and present form of the team their a
prediction is never a  guarantee of 100% sure game, I used to read Lawro predictions a former and  renowned bbcsport Analyst despite his expertise in that field yet he is not 100% accurate same with the present bbcsport Analyst Sutton I don't rely on their pick to place a bet rather I combined their analysis with other Analyst predictions and make selections, though losses are inevitable in gambling however betting with the amount of money you can afford to lose would reduce the risk while two to three consecutive wins would cover all the losses with  extra profit.


History plays a vital role in the current result of any football game. But it doesn't determine the winner of the game. When two teams are in the pitch, lots of things changes. And the players need to adjust based on the strategies of their opponent, if it's not what they expected. A team can change its formation in pitch, it's not against the rule of football. They can decide to go all attack, thereby destabilizing the formation and tactics of their opponent, and leaving them to defend. So, these change of tactics and strategies, the players and coaches can't predict. It only begins to occur once the game starts. That's why the first half game is always hard to predict. People have trust that they'll be goals during the second half of the game. Because the first half can't be predicted, experts can't help it.

In a situation where a big team is scored by a small team during the first half, and the second half the smaller team decides to maintain all defense the big team may lose out in the game. The mistake of hoping on the big team to win always isn't proper, that doesn't determine good prediction. Sports is predictable, and sometimes these experts would be correct. Yet in gambling is not meant to be same for everybody who predicts games. Sometimes we lose or win. Trusting on the prediction of expert is at the risk of the gambler. And he's to take every responsibility. Whether win or lose. When a gambler begins to feel less of himself and relies on the ideas of an expert, he may not be able to control his emotions and make good prediction, when needed.


I believe i had discussed about something like this in my previous thread i created. Indeed, history is one factor that can affect the performance of a team. I don't know if some teams are bound to the ethics, rules and tradition that was laid by the founders of that team. This is because i don't see any reason why a team will continue to face continuous outcome on every season. I don't want to mention any team for now. But if we are consistent in football, we should know about what am saying.

For better understanding let me give a scenario. There are teams that would start the league season with a good performance and on the process will start performing poorly and making silly mistakes that could cause them a lot of losses which will make them drop points. I call it near success syndrome. Like whenever they are close, they end up messing things up. Obviously i feel like it is because of the foundation of which the team is built. It will take time to destroy this bad foundation.

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January 16, 2024, 02:17:58 PM
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All u need to know about "expert" is what markets he's betting on
if he's sharing bets from most popular markets like Premier League NBA ATP etc then there is basically 100% chance he's not making ANY profit

Actual experts do exists tho, it's just not easy not find them

They may not be experts at all but they are enough to give bettors an idea like the ones on youtube who compares skills of athletes.

Normally these so called experts are once an athlete too. Lets say Bisping or Chael Sonnen who shares their opinion who will might likely win in a match.
That's very different from the way I see this so called experts and I believe most person that offer such services aren't actually former sport men but people that just claim they are good when it comes getting access to some research that might make their prediction very different from yours which to some extent some of them are actually legit but over here and I believe the world at large scammers have taken over everything and they even poss as expert offering sure prediction by editing previous wins and manipulating the system making people fall from their tricks and some even charge a specific amount of money for such fake services.
Not that all of the predictors would be bad, but I think I'm always skeptical about whether 5 percent is legit or not. As per the prediction we expect a good result. But no one has any problem to understand that there are big scammers in sports betting now. We often see a game where the team that is guaranteed to win but performs abysmally and loses the match. There is no use of any predictor even doing good analysis because the result of the match can be changed at any time. That is, some of those conducting may be involved in such work. So why should I take the help of a predictor? Also what you said is true that we think they are very wise but in reality they may not be wise.
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January 16, 2024, 02:52:13 PM
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Some people have a more understanding of certain things than others, some of these guys that claim to be prediction experts might be those that have studied these  teams very well,  down to the players fitness level and drawn conclusions that a game has a high possibility of having a particular outcome.  All these are still  guess work because football isn't mathematics, and there's no particular formula to calculate a win, its all a gamble and shouldn't be depended upon.

These games always come without any loss of any kind from the  side of the prediction guys, the victims are the ones placing the bet, they bear the loss and share their gains with the game source. If there can be an agreement between the source and the recipient that they share gains and loss together, There will be a very big reduction in the way these predictions are given to unsuspecting people.

I don't believe in prediction games experts, they're all guess works and anybody can do it. They're not that exceptional.











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