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January 16, 2024, 02:17:58 PM
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All u need to know about "expert" is what markets he's betting on
if he's sharing bets from most popular markets like Premier League NBA ATP etc then there is basically 100% chance he's not making ANY profit

Actual experts do exists tho, it's just not easy not find them

They may not be experts at all but they are enough to give bettors an idea like the ones on youtube who compares skills of athletes.

Normally these so called experts are once an athlete too. Lets say Bisping or Chael Sonnen who shares their opinion who will might likely win in a match.
That's very different from the way I see this so called experts and I believe most person that offer such services aren't actually former sport men but people that just claim they are good when it comes getting access to some research that might make their prediction very different from yours which to some extent some of them are actually legit but over here and I believe the world at large scammers have taken over everything and they even poss as expert offering sure prediction by editing previous wins and manipulating the system making people fall from their tricks and some even charge a specific amount of money for such fake services.
Not that all of the predictors would be bad, but I think I'm always skeptical about whether 5 percent is legit or not. As per the prediction we expect a good result. But no one has any problem to understand that there are big scammers in sports betting now. We often see a game where the team that is guaranteed to win but performs abysmally and loses the match. There is no use of any predictor even doing good analysis because the result of the match can be changed at any time. That is, some of those conducting may be involved in such work. So why should I take the help of a predictor? Also what you said is true that we think they are very wise but in reality they may not be wise.
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January 16, 2024, 02:52:13 PM
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Some people have a more understanding of certain things than others, some of these guys that claim to be prediction experts might be those that have studied these  teams very well,  down to the players fitness level and drawn conclusions that a game has a high possibility of having a particular outcome.  All these are still  guess work because football isn't mathematics, and there's no particular formula to calculate a win, its all a gamble and shouldn't be depended upon.

These games always come without any loss of any kind from the  side of the prediction guys, the victims are the ones placing the bet, they bear the loss and share their gains with the game source. If there can be an agreement between the source and the recipient that they share gains and loss together, There will be a very big reduction in the way these predictions are given to unsuspecting people.

I don't believe in prediction games experts, they're all guess works and anybody can do it. They're not that exceptional.

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January 16, 2024, 03:26:26 PM
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Some people have a more understanding of certain things than others, some of these guys that claim to be prediction experts might be those that have studied these  teams very well,  down to the players fitness level and drawn conclusions that a game has a high possibility of having a particular outcome.  All these are still  guess work because football isn't mathematics, and there's no particular formula to calculate a win, its all a gamble and shouldn't be depended upon.

These games always come without any loss of any kind from the  side of the prediction guys, the victims are the ones placing the bet, they bear the loss and share their gains with the game source. If there can be an agreement between the source and the recipient that they share gains and loss together, There will be a very big reduction in the way these predictions are given to unsuspecting people.

I don't believe in prediction games experts, they're all guess works and anybody can do it. They're not that exceptional.
But if it is analyzed properly and you are an expert in soccer and can calculate the possibility with indicators that you think can provide the possibility of winning potential, maybe you will see the size of the potential in the two teams that will play based on the calculation of your analysis, like you see the strength of the players who are sent out on the field.

But on the other hand it is just a speculation according to one's view, so if it is to gamble, never follow anyone's words for any reason, it is proven that when you bet relying on other people's analysis you really want victory that can make you frantic, and the pleasure it gives is not like when you win a bet with your own way of assessing a team. Don't put your money on the word of others, that's the biggest mistake especially in betting, I agree with you.

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January 16, 2024, 03:33:21 PM
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I don’t blindly believe anything and try to think only with my brain. I am not a fan of having ready-made information put into my head. It’s another matter if we take only what we need from these expert predictions, only partially what we need. They can also influence us with their expert opinion, and beginners can place bets as indicated to them. At that time, this expert may be in collaboration with a bookmaker who pays him for his expert predictions. In fact, it doesn’t even matter which team he advises you to bet on, the main thing is that you make this bet.

Here I would add that by trusting experts, we are shifting responsibility to others, even if the other team wins in the end. We will begin to blame him for being bad and not understanding anything at all, but in this situation we will be the bad ones.

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January 16, 2024, 03:39:18 PM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?



I don't believe in any prediction by a so called expert, in prediction, no one knows it all, so I don't think that there is any prediction expert anywhere, this people uses the recent and previous meeting of both teams to predict matches and this is the same team we do as individuals, again they check the current form and position of both team, but they forget that this statistics does not guarantee exact result, is just a prediction of what might like be the outcome of a particular game and is not sure.

Yours friends fail to know that prediction is not expected to come out as it is, because of the circumstances that may surround a particular match, so it is better for one to rely on his or her own prediction than falling for such trash called prediction expert.

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January 17, 2024, 08:31:32 AM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?



No, I don't believe in experts predictions. As it's called prediction it's what someone thinks will be the outcome, it's a guest work, not 100% sure of it's outcome. But as gambler if you understand the gamble your into, it will be better you use your own instincts to predict the outcome.

For me I'm more of sports betting (football, Basketball etc) I don't need any predictions on the previous game of Real Madrid FC Vs Barcelona, because Real Madrid is doing better than them so I will go for  Madrid to win. Its just depends, on how you follow up games you bet on.
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January 17, 2024, 08:49:27 AM
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Whether it is an expert or a person with intermediary knowledge, the precision of the prediction depends on how good they are at gathering data. A person who is in the business of providing predictions will have better experience; however, they also fail, and at any point, we don't have the assurance that the prediction suggested by them will win. Whenever the prediction wins, they'll take the credit, and on losses, they just indicate it as bad luck. So, it is always good to make predictions of our own. At times, the prediction might fail, but that needs to be considered learning, and when going for big stakes, it is good to go with fixed match signals that get revealed by insiders.
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January 17, 2024, 09:14:11 AM
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Even though a person know more than me and is an expert, I cant trust his predictions for 100%. First of all due to theory of probability, as their is always a little chance of a failure. Everybody can make a mistake Secondly, if we talk about sport betting, then no matter how big expert person is, he cant predict what athlete will do. He knows only statistics, but he does not know if a player has a bad mood or got up on the wrong foot. Third reason - even if expert gave a totally correct prediction, sports game can be cancelled, postponed, pause, slot machine can get a glitch, dealer can make an error. Which means even with correct prediction, I would lose.

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January 17, 2024, 09:25:21 AM
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Some people have a more understanding of certain things than others, some of these guys that claim to be prediction experts might be those that have studied these  teams very well,  down to the players fitness level and drawn conclusions that a game has a high possibility of having a particular outcome.  All these are still  guess work because football isn't mathematics, and there's no particular formula to calculate a win, its all a gamble and shouldn't be depended upon.

These games always come without any loss of any kind from the  side of the prediction guys, the victims are the ones placing the bet, they bear the loss and share their gains with the game source. If there can be an agreement between the source and the recipient that they share gains and loss together, There will be a very big reduction in the way these predictions are given to unsuspecting people.

I don't believe in prediction games experts, they're all guess works and anybody can do it. They're not that exceptional.
But if it is analyzed properly and you are an expert in soccer and can calculate the possibility with indicators that you think can provide the possibility of winning potential, maybe you will see the size of the potential in the two teams that will play based on the calculation of your analysis, like you see the strength of the players who are sent out on the field.

But on the other hand it is just a speculation according to one's view, so if it is to gamble, never follow anyone's words for any reason, it is proven that when you bet relying on other people's analysis you really want victory that can make you frantic, and the pleasure it gives is not like when you win a bet with your own way of assessing a team. Don't put your money on the word of others, that's the biggest mistake especially in betting, I agree with you.

If they are verified as expert on that craft then for sure they have basis regarding on what they are releasing so I would give a point on what prediction they release since for sure there's something good to follow on their predictions made. But we don't totally follow all what they say since its really better to make it as a guide so we have pointers on what we are trying to research to gather further more knowledge about the predictions they drop.

Speculation still speculation but for sure they have a lot of experience on those gambling categories they are doing so there's nothing wrong if we look after their prediction then make it as a guide what's important there is to have critical thinking to know the real situation so we can decide on our own.

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January 17, 2024, 09:27:58 AM
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So, it is always good to make predictions of our own.

The unpredicted nature of gambling makes me even doubt the possibility of having an expert. The person who parades himself as an expert is, maybe good at analysis games but then does the analysis determine the outcome? Most times, no. An expert is as good as you and sometimes you are even better just by following your instinct.

I remember when I saw a prediction on a website but I doubted the possibility of the outcome of what was predicted not minding the analysis given by the expert but decided to follow my instinct. Luckily, I won and what was predicted by the expert failed. What this means is that expert prediction is not always accurate and experience shows that when you depend on expert prediction you tend to lose more.

The reason is that most expert predictions are not free even though it's not 100% safe and then after paying for the picks, the bettor must stake the game and sometimes with a very high stake considering the assurance that was given. After all these efforts, the game doesn't play and bettor ends up losing more than expected.

In summary, I agree that it is always good to make our predictions because there won't be a blame game at the end and the money that would have been used to pay for picks can be utilized into another venture or even saved.

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January 17, 2024, 10:00:11 AM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?



I don't believe in any prediction by a so called expert, in prediction, no one knows it all, so I don't think that there is any prediction expert anywhere, this people uses the recent and previous meeting of both teams to predict matches and this is the same team we do as individuals, again they check the current form and position of both team, but they forget that this statistics does not guarantee exact result, is just a prediction of what might like be the outcome of a particular game and is not sure.

Yours friends fail to know that prediction is not expected to come out as it is, because of the circumstances that may surround a particular match, so it is better for one to rely on his or her own prediction than falling for such trash called prediction expert.
I totally agree with what you said about some people who think that whatever prediction that comes out from gambling expert are surely gonna play out the same way they were predicted. that is actually not how gambling works and there's there is no perfect prediction when he comes to gambling and that is why it is absolutely unwise for someone to think that whichever prediction that comes from gambling experts are 100% guaranteed.

A friend of mine who was good at predicting games on his own decided to deeper in gambling. He told me about a gambling expert who was very good in making predictions and how people who bets on his predictions are always winning big but I advised him not to take the predictions of other very serious as everyone is prone to predict wrongly. He didn't listen to me but rather decided to go on with his initial plan and contacted the gambling expert for predictions. He staked all his hard earned money on the predictions and shockingly to him, he lost all his money.

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January 17, 2024, 10:23:08 AM
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Speculation still speculation but for sure they have a lot of experience on those gambling categories they are doing so there's nothing wrong if we look after their prediction then make it as a guide what's important is to have critical thinking to know the real situation so we can decide on our own.
We need to pay attention to these questions, does experience matter in gambling specifically football betting? Is our concern about knowing if following expert prediction is wrong or not or about having a greater chance of winning? If after looking up an expert prediction we still fall back to our thinking what's the need for it in the first instance? Is the statistics or H2H records only accessible to experts?

Experience doesn't matter when making predictions about the outcome of a football result to be specific. If experience does then the old gamblers should have more winnings but then I can tell you that even a newbie can have a higher success rate than an old gambler or even an expert. In my understanding, what counts is luck and not experience. The guide that may be provided by an expert might even be a reason for losing a bet.

Even though it is not wrong to follow an expert prediction but a high winning rate is not guaranteed which is what matters. So, relying on an expert prediction is not the best. Look up stats as a guide since everyone can have access to stats not only the experts. That should serve as a better guide. With that, you can easily know rivals and avoid such games if possible or you can know the possible and near-perfect option to select.

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January 17, 2024, 11:03:08 AM
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Speculation still speculation but for sure they have a lot of experience on those gambling categories they are doing so there's nothing wrong if we look after their prediction then make it as a guide what's important is to have critical thinking to know the real situation so we can decide on our own.
Experience doesn't matter when making predictions about the outcome of a football result to be specific. If experience does then the old gamblers should have more winnings but then I can tell you that even a newbie can have a higher success rate than an old gambler or even an expert. In my understanding, what counts is luck and not experience. The guide that may be provided by an expert might even be a reason for losing a bet.
Bettor needs experience but no experienced person can guarantee winning a bet. Be it football or any other sports betting. Anyone who bet on a basic idea before a football match can win. You are right that if experience were the key then the old gamblers would have been rich. Sometimes I have seen a newbie win more than an experienced bettor. But we certainly cannot neglect gaining experience. Because sometimes experience comes in handy to win the bet. Generally the most popular game in the world is football where footballers from different countries of the world participate. If a bettor does not have an idea about the team players, his chances of winning may decrease. So experience is required.
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January 17, 2024, 11:27:30 AM
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Bettor needs experience but no experienced person can guarantee winning a bet. Be it football or any other sports betting. Anyone who bet on a basic idea before a football match can win. You are right that if experience were the key then the old gamblers would have been rich. Sometimes I have seen a newbie win more than an experienced bettor. But we certainly cannot neglect gaining experience. Because sometimes experience comes in handy to win the bet. Generally the most popular game in the world is football where footballers from different countries of the world participate. If a bettor does not have an idea about the team players, his chances of winning may decrease. So experience is required.
Thanks to experience in betting, we can know what obviously should not be done and what to bet on, but experience does not give us the answer to who will win and how. We can just make fewer mistakes, that's all.

And in general, if the experts knew who would win, why would they share this with all the players? They can simply bet and win like in a fairy tale. It's just funny who believes in these predictions. And I have also seen many times how these scammers pretend that they are experts and take money for their predictions. Those people who pay them money are at the very bottom of the food chain and suffer the greatest losses, because they also pay for this nonsense, while having a negative expectation. In this case, it is better to just bet on a random team and the mathematical expectation will be higher. I have a very negative attitude towards such groups.

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January 17, 2024, 11:59:42 AM
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I totally agree with what you said about some people who think that whatever prediction that comes out from gambling expert are surely gonna play out the same way they were predicted. that is actually not how gambling works and there's there is no perfect prediction when he comes to gambling and that is why it is absolutely unwise for someone to think that whichever prediction that comes from gambling experts are 100% guaranteed.

A friend of mine who was good at predicting games on his own decided to deeper in gambling. He told me about a gambling expert who was very good in making predictions and how people who bets on his predictions are always winning big but I advised him not to take the predictions of other very serious as everyone is prone to predict wrongly. He didn't listen to me but rather decided to go on with his initial plan and contacted the gambling expert for predictions. He staked all his hard earned money on the predictions and shockingly to him, he lost all his money.

I agree with you, because it is true like that, also with gamblers who have been gambling for a long time and might be called experienced in gambling or gambling experts in my opinion they cannot predict gambling accurately, even with those who are called experts gambling, I'm not sure they can guess or predict well or perfectly accurately, because in my opinion gambling is based on luck which will determine whether they win or lose at gambling. Even though there is some gambling that requires skill to increase the chances of winning, that doesn't mean they can guess or predict winning accurately. it only helps them increase their chances of winning, which leads to luck too.

The advice you said to your friend is correct, I agree with that, because if I had a friend who had gambling experience I would definitely say that. In the end, he who lost everything proves that even though there are gambling experts, it doesn't guarantee that they can win consistently, after all, winning consistently is just empty talk.

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January 17, 2024, 01:35:41 PM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?



Ask the person what game he is exactly talking about and then let person simulate a few sessions with play money or with virtual money. If he is talking about sports betting, let the person prove a few sessions how successful he is. Ask him to tell you dozens of predictions for a few weeks and then see whether the person is in profit or not. If it is slot games or something, use virtual money as I said and if the person can do it with real money, then the person should be able to prove it with play money.

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January 17, 2024, 01:44:28 PM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?



I don't believe in any prediction by a so called expert, in prediction, no one knows it all, so I don't think that there is any prediction expert anywhere, this people uses the recent and previous meeting of both teams to predict matches and this is the same team we do as individuals, again they check the current form and position of both team, but they forget that this statistics does not guarantee exact result, is just a prediction of what might like be the outcome of a particular game and is not sure.

Yours friends fail to know that prediction is not expected to come out as it is, because of the circumstances that may surround a particular match, so it is better for one to rely on his or her own prediction than falling for such trash called prediction expert.
It is also impossible to criticize experts from such an unkind perspective because when we shop, many brands are offered at different prices, to find a reputable expert, selecting and looking at their expertise is indispensable, besides, they still have small incentives before gaining our trust, so distinguishing an expert is easy in this situation. The experts will certainly give us some of the best options and no shortage of reminders, so they are a plus for consideration and we still have full control over the game.

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January 17, 2024, 03:23:04 PM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?


Part of me wanted to but at the same time I couldn't care less about predictions and educated guesses especially if I made my mind up that I'd only play the game as a form of entertainment. Like yes it's still great if I do win but at the same time I don't make it a point of my games at all. If I lose that's fine, but I'm not about to make gambling a large part of my life to the point that I'm even looking for other "expert's" opinions just so I can bag more wins. I win it's good, I lose it's not so bad. End of story. Plus it's not like you'd take the "expert's" words wholeheartedly anyway. If you're a regular human being you'd always have some semblance of a doubt at the back of your head no matter how much bought you are with what the other person is saying, which means you could either divert to what the expert is advising you to do, or just take his variation and implement it into your playstyle, both of which aren't really you doing what he wants you to do in the first place which to me is a massive waste of effort and time on your end.

I don't wanna sound so cynical but at the same time I guess it can't be helped. I make it a point to let people know that gambling shouldn't be a large portion of your life and if it came to that point then you're gambling the wrong way. Soon enough you'd find yourself asking for more and losing more, which will lead you to gambling addiction later down the line.

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January 17, 2024, 09:27:35 PM
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Part of me wanted to but at the same time I couldn't care less about predictions and educated guesses especially if I made my mind up that I'd only play the game as a form of entertainment. Like yes it's still great if I do win but at the same time I don't make it a point of my games at all. If I lose that's fine, but I'm not about to make gambling a large part of my life to the point that I'm even looking for other "expert's" opinions just so I can bag more wins. I win it's good, I lose it's not so bad. End of story. Plus it's not like you'd take the "expert's" words wholeheartedly anyway. If you're a regular human being you'd always have some semblance of a doubt at the back of your head no matter how much bought you are with what the other person is saying, which means you could either divert to what the expert is advising you to do, or just take his variation and implement it into your playstyle, both of which aren't really you doing what he wants you to do in the first place which to me is a massive waste of effort and time on your end.

I don't wanna sound so cynical but at the same time I guess it can't be helped. I make it a point to let people know that gambling shouldn't be a large portion of your life and if it came to that point then you're gambling the wrong way. Soon enough you'd find yourself asking for more and losing more, which will lead you to gambling addiction later down the line.

At the end of the day everyone can change up to a certain degree.

It takes a lot of effort of course, but it is simply doing the right thing one day at a time.

After a while, they will be able to see a big change if they stick to a daily better routine.

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January 17, 2024, 09:54:34 PM
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I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

Forget about gambling but when it has to do with speculations, I don’t believe in them until when proven certain. This is money we are talking about and you’re believing some speculator that can just speculate anything out in order to get recognised for their work. If it goes well for them, they’ll get more people to join them and when it goes against them, they try to buy you through another means to believe them the next time again. No one is guaranteed to be perfect in what they do, there’s always some discrepancies in everything you do and that’s natural for a human being.

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